Christopher Smith writes in WUWT Tips and Notes:
Dr Jarrod Gilbert: Why climate denial should be a criminal offence
5:00 AM Tuesday Jul 26, 2016
New Zealand Social Scientist Dr Jarrod Gilbert is calling for the Crime of Climate Change Denial to be adopted.
There is no greater crime being perpetuated on future generations than that committed by those who deny climate change. The scientific consensus is so overwhelming that to argue against it is to perpetuate a dangerous fraud. Denial has become a yardstick by which intelligence can be tested. The term climate sceptic is now interchangeable with the term mindless fool.
Since the 1960s, it has been known that heat-trapping gasses were increasing in the earth’s atmosphere, but no one knew to what effect. In 1979, a study found “no reason to doubt that climate changes will result and no reason to believe that these changes will be negligible”. Since then scientists have been seeking to prove it, and the results are in.
Meta studies show that 97 per cent of published climate scientists agree that global warming is occurring and that it is caused by human activities. The American Association for the Advancement of Science compared it to the consensus linking smoking to cancer. The debate is over, yet doubt continues.
Source:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11681154
Using the “meta studies” of 97% consensus as his applicable research, this truly original thinker, investigator, capable observer both impartial and unbiased, has unleashed his completely reverent. timely and accurate assessment of his media fed diet of Apocalyptic climate change. Heaven forbid Nasa would ever make a mistake, falsify data or misrepresent and adjust 176 years of impartial data observations to suit its own data modelling efforts.
I’m ashamed to be a Kiwi when I read articles like this …. and I despair for the scientific method….
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IMHO Dr Gilbert should not be prosecuted for his Illogical arguments. What catastrophe awaits us when this mindless drivel comes from the mouths of “social scientists”? Does no-one speak out about this undemocratic nonsense? It continues to poison civilized society. Perhaps he should withdraw from civilization as we know it and return to the caves of prehistoric man.
I certainly hope he doesn’t continue to use any carbon-based energy to support his lifestyle – now that would be unethical for a “social scientist” who thinks like he does.
There are rarely any consequences for spouting this type of nonsense (in fact, doing so often results in more attention and approval from the brain-damaged) because any publicity is good publicity. The parents have left the house and the children are in charge.
He shouldn’t be prosecuted for his crimes against humanity. No, the insane should never be punished. But he should be locked up in a safe place where he can’t harm anybody anymore.
This loony alarmist Gilbert said:
Well, if that’s all they are, what’s he so upset about..? If they’re only ‘mindless fools’, surely they pose no threat to anyone? Hmmmm….
Unbelievable – it just gets worse by the hour!
What I cannot understand is how anyone even listens to these lunatics, let alone publishes their sick and twisted ideology and HATE propaganda in a once respected newspaper such as the NZ Herald.
They are the true criminals by their very own lefty SJW ‘hate and vilification’ criteria.
Even a mindless fool is Einstein’s smarter cousin to this guy!
Yes indeed! If anyone is to be prosecuted, then these people for using “hate speech”and promoting irrationality!
“No greater crime is being perpetrated on future generations than” allowing this guy an audience of young minds, unless of course, he is allowed to have children.
He forgot to define ‘climate change denial.’
Anyone here who denies that climate changes, raise your hand…
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Okay. I didn’t see any hands raised. Dr. Gilbert must be talking about the hockey stick handle believers.
This one pairs well with Dr. Ball’s article over the weekend. Clearly this person is a title with no intelligence behind it. But I am sure regimes of the past would love his ignorane. Like Stalinist Russia and Lysenkoism.
The old phrase, “useful idiots” comes to mind, phil. They go to the glue factory when they are no longer useful.
His last words are likely to be, “If only the Führer knew what was happening!”
“The term climate sceptic is now interchangeable with the term mindless fool.”
Well, I guess it takes one to know one,as they say!
Yes, the NZ media has sunk to a new low. As a Kiwi I feel rather ashamed and fear greatly for our youth. I penned the following reply to the NZ Herald…but I doubt they will publish it as they stopped printing my letters 3 years ago:
“Jarrod Gilbert could not be more wrong…the greatest “crime being perpetuated on future generations” is not by climate skeptics but rather by those academics, media, NGOs and the UN who perpetuate the global warming myth. It is they who should be tried for a “criminal offense” against humanity. If one fraction of the millions spent by the 40,000 parasites at the last IPCC talkfest in Paris had been spent drilling water wells in Africa instead, millions of lives could be saved in a few years.
As a sociologist apparently Gilbert feels he knows more that the thousands of scientists who are actually brave enough to stand up to the media hype. Could he please provide even one scientific fact to show that manmade CO2 has been anything but beneficial for this planet and the plants that grow thereon.”
Well done!
Try the religious version:
There is no greater ‘apostasy’ being perpetuated on future generations than that committed by those who deny ‘religious truth’. The ‘God-given truth’ is so overwhelming that to argue against it is to perpetuate a ‘devilish deception’. ‘Unbelief’ has become a yardstick by which ‘morality and faith’ can be tested. The term ‘heretic’ is now interchangeable with the term ‘immoral sinner’.
Since the 1960s, it has been known that heat-trapping gasses were increasing in the earth’s atmosphere, but no one knew to what effect. In 1979, a study found “no reason to doubt that climate changes will result and no reason to believe that these changes will be negligible”. Since then ‘religious scholars’ have been seeking to prove it, and the results are in.
Meta studies show that 97 per cent of ‘published clerics’ agree that global warming is occurring and that it is caused by human activities. The ‘Global Association for the Advancement of Faith’ compared it to the consensus linking ‘sin to damnation’. The debate is over, yet doubt continues.
OMG!
Words fail me. But then would anyone really expect a social scientist to have a clue about the scientific method?
Trapped by believing what he’s told – not checking and looking for any counter argument and then making his own mind up. Perhaps that’s the problem – no mind of his own.
Take care, these people walk among us.
SteveT
By his own logic then, advocating foolish positions in other areas of public policy must be criminalized. We could start by the proof offered by Dr. Ludwig von Mises that a socialist economy was literally impossible because it destroys essential price information and thus destroys the ability of participants to make rational economic decisions. We could move from there to social policy in the US that has destroyed the black family structure such that over 70% of black children grow to adulthood without a father in the home and that black males commit murder at a rate of 8x that of white males. Then there is the now-popular idea that the economy can be stimulated by printing and borrowing near-infinite amounts of debt that pays for crony capitalism and government “benefits”.
But who gets to decide what is foolish and what is rational? The very concept that foolish positions must be criminalized implies that elites install themselves as the arbiters of truth. Let us return to a “science” that tells us the earth is flat and the sun orbits around it.
Hey Buck! Care to run for office? Might be hard to find a party that questions these notions as much as you do, but I’d vote for you!
Now there is the crime of 97 percent.
‘Denial has become a yardstick by which intelligence can be tested. The term climate sceptic is now interchangeable with the term mindless fool.’
Judging by the principle literature in support of a psychological phenomenon ‘denialism’, which is of a poor standard, there is in fact no such concept shown to exist:
https://judithcurry.com/2016/04/21/the-denialism-frame/
Well, ‘climate deniers’ do put national security at risk – that’s the US Navy view:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-pentagon-climate-change-how-climate-deniers-put-national-security-at-risk-20150212
And back in 2004 they predicted that by 2020 the world would be gripped by climate induced nuclear war and multiple major European cities would be submerged by rising seas.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver
Get back to me once their last prediction pans out.
Either he’s a total moron, a liar, or a bit of both. What is happening there is due primarily to subsidence and landfill settling. Plus, I would love to hear him explain about “thermal expansion of the oceans” or “ice dynamics in the Arctic”. It would be a laugh riot, guaranteed.
Exactly. GangGreen has infiltrated everywhere that matters, government, media, education systems. Their propaganda should be working and it did for quite some time, but it’s breaking apart now and very obviously. The people have turned against them. That’s what they can’t understand. All that effort and it’s not working anymore.
Somehow, I bet it requires bigger Navy budgets.
A Military man is the epitome of an Establishment puppet.
What a mindless fool, a so-called “sociologist” blundering into the climate debate from a position of such ignorance.
He seems a bit confused. Trying to back out of the headline he says
Jarrod Gilbert @JarrodGilbertNZ 9h
To whom it may concern,
NO I don’t want to criminalise climate change denial.
[f word redacted]
but that’s contradicting what he wrote in the article: “It ought be seen as a crime.”
I tried to engage on his terms and he still fled the scene, after telling me he’d like to chop off one of my ears and poke me in the eye with it lol
Never engage cretinous intellectual coward slimeballs like Gilbert on their own terms.
meh, I dont mind, I got him to show his true colours, that alone was worth it, it’s being RTd over twitter now 🙂
Threats involving body parts don’t mean much from somebody who doesn’t know his ass from his elbow.
Looks like the prisons are gonna be rather full soon then, best book a room quick.
Anyone who continues to use the bogus ‘97%’ figure advertises their ignorance and activism to the world. Ignore.
Seems he has a blog
http://www.jarrodgilbert.com/blog
Unless I’m misreading his blog his primary interest is in motorcycle gang culture.
Srsly, how does one go from there to ‘denial of CAGW is thoughtcrime’?
I bet money is involved.
As blogger J.Gilbert dared to question gang crime data (9/2/16). Seems he should be turning himself in to a gulag for questioning settled science.
A good example of why no one should pay attention to a social scientist.
His first error is in quoting a fraudulent claim about consensus.
His major error is in assuming that anyone who is skeptical of the actions of the alarmists
believes that humans have caused no global warming – I know of no skeptical scientists who believe that one. The man doesn’t even understand the basic facts or issues in the debate.
Another problem is his apparent belief that global warming is occurring – in this case he is the one in denial.
Another problem is his belief that the global warming that is occuring will be harmful
and that emissions will not be reduced by economic reasons – cheaper molten salt reactors that
produce zero emissions.
This is why I laugh anytime a social scientist makes any claim – even claims that are relevant to
his science. He clearly is not qualified to make any statements about climate science.
In my close up experience, if you scratch intellectual veneer of far too many academics, you find hateful bigots who use sciencey and educated words to push their ironically anti-intellectual, intolerant and harmful ideas. Dr. Gilbert literally has not one fact to offer in his bizarre hate-on for those who dare disagree with him. Gilbert is at best a trained parrot, saying things he has heard repeated over and over until he can echo them with an nearly authentic sound. But on close listening he is apparently doing so with no actual intelligence required. Certainly he accomplishes his noisy squawk without need for ethics or morality.
He is a social scientist not a real hard science scientist. So what do you expect from him. He has no idea how to handle actual real hard science and things it is all squishy and subject to what the crowd thinks not what the data thinks.
Take note of who the fascists are. They feel empowered and invincible. You will know them by what they say and do. So never never forget. The pendulum has passed its inflection point and is swinging away from the CAGW extremists. A new dawn is coming.
YES. Well said. Much better than my many attempts. +1000
Extremism comes out of an extensive environment of hate speech and often protected by free speech and other freedoms in the early phases. Pakistani Madrasas come to mind as modern day examples.
Does anybody deny that the climate changes?
Phillip Bratby July 26, 2016 at 7:39 am
“Does anybody deny that the climate changes?”
I already took a poll on that (above), Phillip.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/07/26/ugly-why-climate-denial-should-be-a-criminal-offence/#comment-2264953
Nobody here raised their hand.
“There is no greater crime being perpetuated on future generations than that committed by those who deny climate change.”…
“Meta studies show that 97 per cent of published climate scientists agree that global warming is occurring and that it is caused by human activities.”
Yep we noticed the social scientist pea and thimble trick there and it’s been done to death doc. Do keep up. It’s been extreme weather for quite a while now but they tell me coral bleaching is all the go at the moment.
I recently wrote a piece on the subject.
Google: Denier Pride Bob Hoye
Maybe it could be posted in this forum?
subtle2,
There’s a “Submit story” button at the top of the page on the site toolbar. Have a look there for more information.
H.R.
Thanks–I submitted it last week “Denier Pride”