John Kerry: Air Conditioners as Big a Threat as ISIS


Guest essay by Eric Worrall

US Secretary of State John Kerry has set his sights on the nation’s air conditioners, claiming that the climate impact of air conditioners are as big a threat to life as the Islamic State terrorist group.

Kerry: Air conditioners as big a threat as ISIS

“As we were working together on the challenge of [ISIS] and terrorism,” Kerry said. “It’s hard for some people to grasp it, but what we–you–are doing here right now is of equal importance because it has the ability to literally save life on the planet itself.”

Kerry said that most of the substances banned in the Montreal Protocol have increased the use of HFCs and claimed that the coolant was thousands of times more potent than CO2. He added that the increase of HFCs has led to the trend of global climate change.

“The use of hydrofluorocarbons is unfortunately growing,” Kerry said. “Already, the HFCs use in refrigerators, air conditioners, and other items are emitting an entire gigaton of carbon dioxide-equivalent pollution into the atmosphere annually. Now, if that sounds like a lot, my friends, it’s because it is. It’s the equivalent to emissions from nearly 300 coal-fired power plants every single year.” …

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I’m surprised John Kerry has such a negative view of air conditioners. Air conditioners have played a surprisingly important part in the climate debate. If James Hansen and Tim Worth hadn’t sabotaged the Congress building Air Conditioner in 1988, the night before crucial testimony which kicked off the entire political climate movement, there might not have been a climate “crisis”.

Perhaps Kerry thinks if he makes Air Conditioners a thing of the past, the entire nation might experience the sweaty heat which proved so convincing on that fateful day in 1988.

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July 24, 2016 4:47 am

…First they forced energy prices so high that the poor cannot afford to heat their homes in winter and now they want to take away air conditioners so that more people die of heat exhaustion ? I guess they just realized that more people die from cold than heat, so they are trying to balance the numbers to make their “Green Machine” look more viable….!

Reply to  Marcus
July 24, 2016 4:58 am

DoE is pushing heat pumps, which use HFCs for both heating and cooling, First we had to eliminate CFCs, then HCFCs, now HFCs. I guess we could shift to ammonia/water and lithium bromide/water machines, but then they’d probably come for the ammonia and lithium bromide. Sheesh!

Carl Johnson
Reply to  firetoice2014
July 24, 2016 5:05 am

Ironically there’s a lot of research into the use of CO2 as a refrigerant.

Reply to  Carl Johnson
July 24, 2016 9:29 am

I was aware of that research. The Germans, I believe, also looked hard at propane.

chris moffatt
Reply to  firetoice2014
July 24, 2016 6:25 am

Carbon Dioxide should be an ideal refrigerant for air conditioners if it can hold half as much heat as the greenies claim. We could sequester lots of it in home AC units and cars across the continent; end of climate problem.

Reply to  firetoice2014
July 24, 2016 9:08 am

Just wait til they start complaining how bad WATER is.

Reply to  skorrent1
July 24, 2016 9:10 am

It is, after all, the predominant “GHG”.

Reply to  firetoice2014
July 24, 2016 9:55 am

@ skorrent1. . . They have – hehe:
the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide

Rick C PE
Reply to  firetoice2014
July 24, 2016 11:48 am

Actually, CO2 and ammonia were the common refrigerants in early systems. CO2 is still used in commercial systems and is referred to as R744 I think. But CO2 requires very high compression (~1800 psi, 13 MPa) and thus very heavy duty and expensive equipment – not to mention high electrical energy use. Propane could work well except for that little issue of its tendency to explode and blow things up when it leaks. CFCs and HCFCs have many characteristics that make them safe and economically viable.

Reply to  firetoice2014
July 24, 2016 11:44 pm

@ skorrent1, 9:08 am, what about air?

Reply to  asybot
July 25, 2016 4:43 am
Reply to  firetoice2014
July 26, 2016 5:13 am

Please sign the petition to have John Kerry set a good example and practice what he preaches. (It is going to be up around a 100 in Washington DC this week.) Only 2,850 have signed so far, but WUWT might make it go viral.

Reply to  Marcus
July 24, 2016 12:49 pm

Turn off the AC at the Democratic Party Convention this coming week. Start walking the talk !

Bryan A
Reply to  Barbara
July 24, 2016 7:36 pm

While they’re at it, Kerry should have the AC unit on his house removed if he truly feels it is worse than ISIS. If he doesn’t, he is a worse terrorist threat than ISIS

Reply to  Barbara
July 25, 2016 7:22 am

Remove all AC units for government buildings.

Reply to  Barbara
July 25, 2016 2:47 pm

The Inquirer, July 22, 2016
‘DNCs in Phila. Brought Change’
The skyline shorter, hemlines longer when Dems last came to town
Scroll down to 1948:
July that year was brutally hot. To the chagrin of delegates, Philadelphia passed on- air conditioning when it built the hall.”
“Men and women sat in sweat-soaked clothing in 90-degree-plus heat. At one point, organizers hauled large ice blocks onto the roof to send cool droplets down to the floor.”
Article down now so use internet search.

Reply to  Marcus
July 24, 2016 2:12 pm

Take away A/C and thousands would die, take away FOOD refrigeration and millions would die.
The preservation of food via refrigeration is one of the reasons cities can be so big….they are so far away from where food is actually produced that the food would be unfit to eat by the time it got there. Food borne illnesses would quickly become the #1 cause death.
………But you already knew that-and so does John Kerry.

Gerry, England
Reply to  Barbee
July 25, 2016 11:31 am

And medicines. A developing world problem is lack of 24/7 electricity to store vaccines etc.

Reply to  Barbee
July 25, 2016 12:58 pm

People lived and worked in large U.S. urban areas without AC until sometime after WW 2.
Party conventions were also held in places with no AC.
People knew how to survive and maybe they don’t know now.

Reply to  Marcus
July 24, 2016 9:34 pm

I hear Merkel is declaring Blitzkrieg on Air Conditioning- as soon as they clean up the blood
from the latest bombing…
If people like Kerry and Merkel think that staying cool is dangerous how a about a German
Idiots are killing US..

July 24, 2016 4:49 am

I hear that the US is shifting it’s air bombing campaign from ISIS targets to pinpoint attacks on air conditioning units outside homes in Florida.
I think this guy has gone round the bend, a long time ago.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  DC Cowboy
July 24, 2016 6:21 am

As a precaution, I have camouflaged my outside equipment. I am using a high resolution digital photo of a bikini clad beauty laying out on a towel. No red blooded American male would even think of bombing that. (I hope there are no ugly women pilots)

Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 24, 2016 7:12 am

However, Hillery might mistake it for one of Bill’s bimbos and nuke the whole area.

Joel Duncan
Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 24, 2016 11:09 am

I live in the Colorado Rockies and have no air conditioning but am concerned about collateral damage from Denver coconspirators nearby.

Tom Judd
Reply to  DC Cowboy
July 24, 2016 6:38 am


Reply to  DC Cowboy
July 24, 2016 8:03 am

Bill Marsh writes: “I think this guy has gone round the bend, a long time ago.”
I believe we need an empirical test. We should put John in a cage full of armed ISIS insurgents and an air conditioner. It’s the only way to be sure.

Reply to  Bartleby
July 24, 2016 8:59 am

I like it!

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Bartleby
July 24, 2016 10:13 am

I’d say pretty much everybody at NASA is bent (on keeping their job and moving up despite the required scientology adherence.

July 24, 2016 4:51 am

Put succinctly, John Kerry is either stupid, or he thinks we are.

Reply to  ScienceABC123
July 24, 2016 4:58 am

…or both.

Reply to  ScienceABC123
July 24, 2016 6:11 am

I can’t believe this still available! John Kerry explains the atmosphere “This is simple. Kids at the earliest age can understand this.
Try and picture a very thin layer of gases – a quarter-inch, half an inch, somewhere in that vicinity – that’s how thick it is. It’s in our atmosphere. It’s way up there at the edge of the atmosphere. And for millions of years – literally millions of years – we know that layer has acted like a thermal blanket for the planet – trapping the sun’s heat and warming the surface of the Earth to the ideal, life-sustaining temperature.”
On the video its at 8:30.

Bruce Armour
Reply to  Tom Konerman
July 24, 2016 3:15 pm

Is John Kerry saying the CO2 causing global warming is only ” a quarter-inch, half an inch” thick?

Reply to  ScienceABC123
July 24, 2016 6:25 am

Put succinctly, John Kerry is either stupid, or he thinks we are.
Amazing isn’t it….
The republican party is campaigning for Hillary..
…and the democrats are campaigning for Trump

Reply to  Latitude
July 24, 2016 8:06 am

Latitude observes: “Amazing isn’t it….”
It really ought to tell us all something.

Reply to  Latitude
July 24, 2016 8:30 am

…same dog….different collar

Bryan A
Reply to  Latitude
July 25, 2016 12:10 pm

Same WAG, Different DOG

Reply to  ScienceABC123
July 24, 2016 7:50 am

I think he means all other people’s air conditioners. I believe his works fine and is ISIS proof!

Barbara Skolaut
Reply to  ScienceABC123
July 24, 2016 4:38 pm

Embrace the power of “and,” ScienceABC123.

July 24, 2016 4:57 am

Maybe we should all go back to ammonia

Reply to  Alex
July 24, 2016 5:01 am

How about “iceboxes”? We could use sea ice, which would actually help increase sea level rise.

Reply to  firetoice2014
July 24, 2016 9:26 am

Oops. Forgot the “sarc off”.

Reply to  firetoice2014
July 24, 2016 12:02 pm

Put a wash-tub full of ice in a room. Used back in the days when ice was cut in the winter and stored for later use.

Reply to  firetoice2014
July 25, 2016 7:29 am

If a good storage room wasn’t available, the harvested ice could also just be buried in the ground.
My mother remembers her dad burying blocks of ice next to the roots of the family orchard trees, to keep them from coming out of winter hibernation too early and falling victim to any late frosts.

chris moffatt
Reply to  Alex
July 24, 2016 9:12 am

Seems to me if CO2 traps half as much heat as the greenies insist it would be the ideal refrigerant for all those air conditioners.

Mike McMillan
Reply to  chris moffatt
July 24, 2016 1:14 pm

CO2 refrigeration is used in a number of commercial applications, but the system pressures are much higher that you need for xFC’s. The refrigeration cycle usually operates across the CO2 critical point, where the other refrigerants stay below their respective critical points.
Nevertheless, keep your AR-15’s out of a/c reach.

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
July 24, 2016 5:01 am

Taking him at his word, the fix is to un-ban the CFCs we used to use for refrigeration before we got stampeded into the Montreal Protocol.
Slilghtly off topic, but Hillary Clinton has hinted she might retain Loretta “we just talked about our grandchildren” Lynch as Attorney General. If she hints that she might also retain Kerry as Secretary of State my joy would know no bounds (/sarc).

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
July 24, 2016 6:24 am

Of course Lynch is staying. That was the deal if she left Hillary alone.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 24, 2016 11:47 pm

Tom in Florida: Bulls Eye.

July 24, 2016 5:03 am

John Kerry: Refrigerators and terrorists. A Limerick.
My terrorist fridge has been hacked.
No teens had its content ransacked.
But more evil than ISIS
is the climate change crisis.
Says Kerry: It’s HFC’s packed.
Source, Washington Examiner: “Air conditioners and refrigerators pose as big a threat to “life on the planet” as the threat of terrorism,” Secretary of State John Kerry said Friday.

Reply to  lenbilen
July 24, 2016 5:56 am

Oh Kerry! Thou foolish comparer!
Whilst sleeping thou dreampt up an error.
The thing that’s too cool
Is your wife, you old fool,
And she’s also your reason for terror.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  lenbilen
July 24, 2016 6:29 am

There once was a man named Kerry
Whose brain was open and airy
He said with a shout
A/Cs should be out
His thoughts on such things are just scary

Paul Penrose
Reply to  lenbilen
July 24, 2016 7:20 am

You all gave me a good chuckle. Thank you.

Reply to  lenbilen
July 24, 2016 9:09 am

One more:
More terror worse than ISIS. First HFC’s, then Methane. Obama, Kerry, Sanders, Clinton full of delusion. A Limerick.
The air in the air Londonderry
is terror, says charlatan Kerry.
HFC’s must depart,
next we go for the fart:
Desist! No more dairy in Derry!
From European Commission Global Methane Reduction Actions
Methane emissions vary considerably by sector with the agriculture sector accounting for 50% of the total emissions.

Bubba Cow
Reply to  lenbilen
July 24, 2016 9:58 am

please, leave me out of this !

July 24, 2016 5:06 am

Could someone from the secret service leave John Kerry in the carpark with the windows up. Maybe the heat would fry his brain, it would have to be an improvement.

Reply to  Alex
July 24, 2016 5:44 am

You are making a huge and , I think, unfounded assumption. You are assuming he has a brain to fry.

Reply to  SMC
July 24, 2016 9:05 am

Or assuming his brain hasn’t already been fried.

Edward Patterson
Reply to  Alex
July 24, 2016 8:56 am

It would just get him another Purple Heart and for less damage than the splinter that he got over in Vietnam. Yes, I know that the medal is only for serving service members but he is a BIG Time Democrat so they think it is the same or better. [ NO sarc ]

Bruce Cobb
July 24, 2016 5:10 am

“It’s hard for some people to grasp it, but what we–you–are doing here right now is of equal importance because it has the ability to literally save life on the planet itself.”
No, it literally doesn’t. Only in the delusional minds of Warmunists like Kerry, who is literally, an idiot.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 24, 2016 5:16 am

Good to see he changed his (what passes for a mind), and excused himself from getting rid of his air-conditioner.

July 24, 2016 5:14 am

That’s it then, ISIS will start shipping air conditioners to all the tropical countries in a new terror campaign against the west. Oh the horror!

July 24, 2016 5:15 am

I’ve heard from several people that the main reason for replacing Freon was because the patent had expired and Dow needed sell a new high priced product. But first it had to kill the market for cheap Freon……low and behold we have an ozone depletion problem.
My bet is someone has a new refrigerant to put on the market and Kerry is the mouthpiece.

Reply to  DAM1953
July 24, 2016 1:12 pm

Not true, look it up. Kerry if you know how to read, you are without a doubt the biggest moron

July 24, 2016 5:24 am

Does this mean that we can expect Congress and the rest of the federal government to be giving up their air conditioners soon?

Vincent Mohan
Reply to  Odin2
July 24, 2016 6:20 am

As Glenn (Instapundit) Reynolds says, we need a law banning AC in Federal buildings. That’d show them!

Reply to  Vincent Mohan
July 24, 2016 8:16 am

“I date the end of the old republic and the birth of the empire to the invention, in the late thirties, of air conditioning. Before air conditioning, Washington was deserted from mid-June to September…. But after air conditioning and the Second World War arrived, more or less at the same time, Congress sits and sits while the presidents or at least their staffs never stop making mischief.”, Gore Vidal

Reply to  Vincent Mohan
July 24, 2016 11:30 am

But if you got rid of DC AC, then Harry Reid would have to put up with smelling those sweaty tourists again (you know, the ones who pay his salary and pension).

Bryan A
Reply to  Vincent Mohan
July 25, 2016 12:19 pm

Not only that but without their AC or DC, their lights would be out and they would finally be proved to be be as dim as their watts

July 24, 2016 5:28 am

The real tragedy of HFC’s is it shows what incredible idiots the climate bureaucrats are. A few years ago it was revealed that 43% of the revenue from emissions trading schemes went to companies that made and destroyed byproducts of their production. $155 million of by-product earned 7.15 billion of carbon offsets, a 90% profit margin.

July 24, 2016 5:31 am

He’s wrong. It’s pirates.comment image

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Tony
July 24, 2016 6:37 am

Aye matey, methinks you’ve found the map.

Reply to  Tony
July 25, 2016 6:45 am

Pirates came back in the 2000’s which caused the pause, and their numbers are shrinking again that’s why 2015/16 had a spike. I put this in my model and with 97% confidence I can say global temps will skyrocket by 2030 if we do not get more pirates. The tipping point will by 2017, if we do not do something now all hope is lost.

Bill Illis
July 24, 2016 5:32 am

The 15 minor GHGs including HFCs (which are the majority of these minor GHGs) have gotten up to a forcing of …
… 0.118 W/m2 as at 2015. They increased by 0.002 W/m2 in 2015.
Normally one would consider those type of numbers to be completely insignificant with Zero temperature impact and completely ignorable. The Ozone depletion potential of the current HFCs used is very minor as well.

Reply to  Bill Illis
July 24, 2016 9:25 am

What happened to H2O?? My God, they’ve eliminated WATER already!! (see above)

Reply to  Bill Illis
July 24, 2016 10:10 am

Do not forget that the CFC/ozone depletion connection was fraudulent research cobbled up by Dupont Chemical. 20 years later that scientist admitted to the fraud. Unfortunately, many do not know that we now know that it is nitrogen (80% of the atmosphere and not our fault) and solar UV output that destroys ozone in that region.
Now, that solar activity is decreasing, the ozone levels are rising. It is NOT due to the Montreal Protocol. By banning that refrigerant, which was out of patent and being manufactured cheaply around the world, thus saving food and lives at the same time, Dupont got to replace it with their more expensive, patented refrigerant, actively killing people around the world by being too expensive to use.

Reply to  Bill Illis
July 24, 2016 4:30 pm

“Normally one would consider those type of numbers to be completely insignificant …”
Yes, but only a rational person which seems to be scarce in the EPA and in the State Department, especially at the top.

July 24, 2016 5:40 am

When the worldwide ban on HFC is completed, it is estimated by the proponents of the ban that it COULD reduce warming in the next 85 years by 0.5C. One would think that any kind of armed conflict that is killing people is more dangerous than that particularly since the killing can be stated categorically as fact without the word COULD.

Paul Westhaver
July 24, 2016 5:45 am

Engineers read this… This really happened to me.
I visited a supplier and lightning knocked out the cooling system to a clean room with a lot of heat generating equipment. I had to work in the room all day. The supplier placed an 8000 BTU air conditioner in the clean room with me powered with an extension cord. But be supplied no ducting.
He just set the air conditioner on a table, plugged it in, and told me to go right to work!
By the end of the day it was 110 F in the room.
I tried to explain the Carnot Cycle to the guy but it was pointless. He was an appliance user. No insight at all. I just sweated it out in a Tyvek bunny suit for 8 hours. (yes I got heat stroke)
John Kerry scored lower grades in university than George Bush. Kerry is a moron.
His advise about technology makes you dumber.

Paul Westhaver
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
July 24, 2016 5:58 am

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Eustace Cranch
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
July 24, 2016 6:11 am

Two issues here:
1. A free-standing air conditioner, with who-knows-how-much dust sitting in the grille, running unfiltered in a clean room?
2. If you really understood the physics, as you indicate, why didn’t you just turn it off?

Paul Westhaver
Reply to  Eustace Cranch
July 24, 2016 6:49 am

“why didn’t you just turn it off”
I was a young engineer, and my visit was immersed is corporate politics. The supplier was also working in the shared space. Also I only had authorization to “touch” equipment and product that our company owned. I did try to convince him to shut it off but it got to the point where my blank face, head shaking, and eye-blinking non-verbal was beginning to encroach on his self esteem. (He was convinced he was a genious, like Kerry)
It wasn’t as cut and dry as you imagine. Life is full of situations wherein we must cope with morons.
Kerry is a moron that we must cope with. I am sure everyone has had a similar face-in-hand experience.

Paul Westhaver
Reply to  Eustace Cranch
July 24, 2016 6:51 am

…”running unfiltered in a clean room”…
OMGosh!! Exactly!… It was supposedly a class 10 ( ergo the bunny suits).

Reply to  Eustace Cranch
July 24, 2016 6:58 am

Was that at RPI? Sounds like the stuff that happened at the Clean (SIC) room I used to work in.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Eustace Cranch
July 24, 2016 12:00 pm

I’ve had similar experiences with a researcher who insisted that his hood filters were the source of mold growing on his in vitro bone cell matrix while working in street shoes and no coverall, with the corridor doors open and a negative lab pressure pulling air from his office, full of papers and books.
They only understand their own niche of science sometimes.

Reply to  Paul Westhaver
July 24, 2016 8:52 am

Paul, at least it was working as a dehumidifier….

Roy Spencer
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
July 24, 2016 1:12 pm

too complicated to explain the Carnot cycle. Just explain that every air conditioner creates more “heat” than “cold”…you just have to duct the heat outside, or it won’t cool you, it will heat you.

David Smith
July 24, 2016 5:46 am

Wildly OT, so Mods feel free to delete.
Seem to have just got myself banned from SkS. I asked what an author meant when he wrote in article that we could “fix the climate”, as the climate is always changing and is not “fixable”. The mods crossed out my whole comment and accused me of “sloganeering” (whatever that is).All my other comments on various articled and other people’s replys to me have been deleted.
Mind you, I suppose they might have got rather upset when I posted a link to a picture of Cookie dressed in uniform from the losing side of WW2 😉
They’re such sensetive flowers at Sks!

Paul Penrose
Reply to  David Smith
July 24, 2016 7:29 am

The real irony is that “fix the climate” is truly “sloganeering”, in the sense that they mean it.

David Smith
Reply to  Paul Penrose
July 24, 2016 8:05 am

That’s what I thought, but wasn’t allowed to say it, as Cookie shut me off.

Reply to  David Smith
July 24, 2016 9:12 am

“The mods crossed out my whole comment and accused me of “sloganeering” (whatever that is).All my other comments on various articled and other people’s replys to me have been deleted.”
Sounds like they disappeared you. The Old communist Soviet Union comes to mind.

Reply to  TA
July 24, 2016 9:34 am

Or the current college campi with their “speech zones” and “safe rooms.”

July 24, 2016 5:46 am

Start the countdown to January if you have not already done so.

Reply to  Resourceguy
July 24, 2016 5:51 am

And pray Hillary is not elected.

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  SMC
July 24, 2016 9:07 am

The good news is that both vice presidential candidates seem to be pretty decent guys. So I don’t care who is elected, just as long as she or he is impeached and convicted before the end of January 2017.

July 24, 2016 5:48 am

I thought the ozone hole was shrinking to records lows according to the propaganda department.

July 24, 2016 5:48 am

The key question for Kerry and a lot of the appointees of this Administration is how would you know if they are suffering from early to advanced stages of mental illness.

Reply to  Resourceguy
July 24, 2016 6:31 am


Reply to  Resourceguy
July 24, 2016 9:14 am

By their delusions, you shall know them.

July 24, 2016 5:49 am

I went to the EPA website and tried to find out what acceptable substitutes to HFC’s are. I quickly grew frustrated when I couldn’t find any acceptable substitutes. Mind, I was only doing a casual search. It is very easy, however, to find out what is unacceptable.

Reply to  SMC
July 24, 2016 8:22 am

Water is the best refrigerant, followed by ammonia. CO2 and propane are also reasonable refrigerants, though propane has some obvious drawbacks.

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  firetoice2014
July 24, 2016 11:54 am

Ever been at a site cooled by an ammonia system when there was a leak ? I have …..
And it sux…..big time . No thanks , you’re welcome to it .

Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
July 24, 2016 12:18 pm

Ammonia/water absorption chillers keep the ammonia outside.

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  firetoice2014
July 24, 2016 12:47 pm

firetoice2014 … in “normal” use I agree , but ambient temp for the process was < 28deg F so couldn't use chill water….ammonia + human lungs is not good…

Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
July 24, 2016 1:22 pm

No argument from me on that.

Mike the Morlock
Reply to  firetoice2014
July 24, 2016 1:32 pm

Swamp coolers work pretty good for households. I have one; with good pads it can change the hottest day “evah” to honey were is my furry green bath robe?

Reply to  Mike the Morlock
July 24, 2016 2:03 pm

They work fine if the humidity is relatively low. At 94F with a 70F dew point, not so much.

Reply to  SMC
July 24, 2016 7:57 pm

There are lots of refrigerants and lots of thermal cycles. Each refrigerant is picked for the specific ranges of delta T and the temperature envelope. Many of the envelopes overlap. Ammonia is frowned upon these days, even in industrial process like refineries, because it is a killer if released. Propane is used a lot in low temperature systems like LNG chilling. The HFCs re excellent for the near room temperature applications we need most. So choice of fluid depends on many process factors…that’s why we need engineers. Not politicians.

July 24, 2016 5:52 am

Where is wikileaks when you need them, or did they drink the cool aid too.

Reply to  Resourceguy
July 24, 2016 6:33 am

Alas, with global warming the cool aid is no longer cool. Remember that 60s protest song, “Where has all the cool aid gone”?

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  BallBounces
July 24, 2016 8:59 am

And don’t forget that timeless classic; It Sounds Like Science”:
“Hello Koolaid my old friend…”

July 24, 2016 5:54 am

You’ll know it’s bad when the elite insiders start buying up the ice companies to corner the ice block delivery market to your home ice box.

Eustace Cranch
Reply to  Resourceguy
July 24, 2016 6:14 am

Ahem. And how, exactly, will all that ice be made?

Reply to  Eustace Cranch
July 24, 2016 6:48 am

it would be cut out of the lakes in the winter and stored, like they use to do in the old days, There should be lots of lake ice again as they will have fixed global warming with all these measures.

Reply to  Eustace Cranch
July 25, 2016 7:29 am

Natural freezing on the lakes with saws and picks to get it out and onto the wagons

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Resourceguy
July 24, 2016 8:50 am

Aha! Ice – ices – ISIS! Coincidence?
I think not.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 24, 2016 6:13 pm

hmm . . maybe. Depends what the meaning if ISIS . .

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 25, 2016 12:18 am

johnKnight, 6:13 pm: “What the meaning of ISIS IS” , classic! Thanks.

July 24, 2016 6:02 am

I wonder if Kerry has given up air conditioning in his own home?

Reply to  Steve Hollar
July 24, 2016 8:48 am

Let’s fly a drone + camera over his house and find out?
Same with Gore, Mann, et al.

Lone Gunman
July 24, 2016 6:03 am


July 24, 2016 6:16 am

The first thing that came to my mind was this Seinfeld episode.

July 24, 2016 6:32 am

If they ban AC, only outlaws will have fully automatic AC’s…
It has been hotter than Purgatory in the greater Boston Area the last two days. Speaking of Purgatory, Mr. Kerry can go to the other warm place instead.

Reply to  john
July 25, 2016 12:28 am

john, +1. at least ( but then if I gave you +2 it might get too hot.)

Tom in Florida
July 24, 2016 6:35 am

“The Dunning–Kruger (DK) effect is a cognitive bias wherein unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.”
Hey Mr Kerry, if the shoe fits……………….

Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 24, 2016 10:23 am

Tom, the other guy is always wrong. That’s the current understanding of scientific skepticism.

July 24, 2016 6:38 am

I’ll be watching my air conditioner very, very closely from now on. It’s making strange noises. I think it’s about to aaaaaaagggggg.

Reply to  BallBounces
July 24, 2016 7:03 am

..Hmmm, how long before the movie comes out ???

July 24, 2016 6:42 am

“It’s hard for some people to grasp it, but what we–you–are doing here right now is of equal importance because it has the ability to literally save life on the planet itself.”
He screwed up when he said “we” and quickly corrected to “you.” It’s YOUR air conditioner that’s a problem. Not his and Teresa’s.

July 24, 2016 6:47 am

..AHA !! I’ve got it !! …. I just figure out how to save the world…….We need a world wide ban on liberal ideas ….

Tom Judd
July 24, 2016 6:50 am

This is what passes for leadership? Seriously. Can a society long endure this kind of stupidity? That man is pathetic.

July 24, 2016 6:52 am

When the air conditioner starts shooting at me, I will stop worrying about ISIS and call in the serviceman.

July 24, 2016 6:52 am

Kerry is a bigger threat than ISIS.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  emsnews
July 24, 2016 7:22 am

Kerry, Clinton and Obama are ISIS’s bestest ever US friends it could ever hope for.

Peter Nunn
July 24, 2016 7:12 am

Kerry is completely correct. I had to get rid of my last air conditioner unit after it decapitated three of my neighbours and planted a bomb in the local train station.

Reply to  Peter Nunn
July 25, 2016 12:33 am

Obama: “If that was my AC , it be my……

July 24, 2016 7:17 am

If my a/c wasn’t working…… I’ll admit, I might just go ISIS on your ass.

July 24, 2016 7:18 am

The West is locked in a battle with Islamic Terror, like it or not.
What must the leadership of Al Qaeda, Hamas, ISIS, the Taliban, and the rest be thinking about the US Secretary of State, and the US after official statements like this?
For them, it must be bonus points all the way around.

Reply to  TonyL
July 24, 2016 9:18 am

They must be thinking, “Hey, we can attack these fools at will, and suffer no consequences. President Obama will even make excuses for us.”

Robert from oz
Reply to  TA
July 24, 2016 9:20 pm

Isis are currently hatching a plot to put air conditioning in every home in America “those sneaky evil villains “.

John Endicott
July 24, 2016 7:22 am

“The use of hydrofluorocarbons is unfortunately growing,” Kerry said. “Already, the HFCs use in refrigerators, air conditioners, and other items are emitting an entire gigaton of carbon dioxide-equivalent pollution into the atmosphere annually. Now, if that sounds like a lot, my friends, it’s because it is. It’s the equivalent to emissions from nearly 300 coal-fired power plants every single year.” …
So Mr Kerry, May I take it you will immediately remove all refrigerators, air conditioners, and other items from your home and your office? Get back to me when you do, then I’ll be willing to listen to what you have to say.

Reply to  John Endicott
July 24, 2016 10:08 am

…are emitting an entire gigaton of carbon dioxide-equivalent pollution into the atmosphere annually. Now, if that sounds like a lot, my friends, it’s because it is.

I wonder how many “Hiroshima bombs” that equals.
Seriously though, What percentage is One Gigaton of CO2 compared to the entire supply of atmospheric CO2?
Someone here is bound to know the total atmospheric CO2 tonnage. No?

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  RobRoy
July 24, 2016 10:40 am

What you want is the conversion of the “warming power” of one gigaton of CO2 to the number of Hiroshima bombs (hereafter referred to as “Hiroshimas”). Plugging one gigaton into my Hiroshima calculator gets, let’s see; tap-tap-tik-tappity-tap; Tik-tikkety, tap. And the answer is; one bazillion Hiroshimas.
Give or take.

July 24, 2016 7:28 am

This Administration’s priority has always been to fight CO2, not ISIS.

Reply to  Curious George
July 24, 2016 10:12 am

Tilting at windmills.

Reply to  RobRoy
July 24, 2016 10:41 am

Don Quixote was honorable.

July 24, 2016 7:30 am

John Kerry demonstrates the fixation on abstract climate possibilities rather than clear and present dangers. There is money and egos at stake, but it is also a moral breakdown.

Rhoda R
Reply to  Ron Clutz
July 25, 2016 9:57 pm

Small minds pull away from big problems. Small minds try to find small problems to solve – and it doesn’t get much smaller than a nonexistent climate problem.

Reply to  Rhoda R
July 26, 2016 6:43 am

True that, and natural cooling occurs, you can take credit for it.
Kinda like the guy selling elephant repellent in Iowa. See? No elephants!

July 24, 2016 7:57 am

John Kerry is a blithering idiot.

July 24, 2016 7:58 am

Poor John Kerry…
Is he that stupid or are Lefists that dumb to believe such inane propaganda?
I just turned on my air conditioner… It didn’t suddenly scream Allahu Akbar!!!! and spontaneously combust into a million pieces and takeout my neighborhood… It simply purred like a kitten and started pumping out glorious cool air…
We’ve enjoyed a total of about 0.82C of global warming recovery since the Little Ice Age ended in 1850, of which, CO2 has perhaps beneficially contributed 0.2C to this total… HFCs have perhaps beneficially contributed 0.002C of global warming since the 1950’s and literally saved 100’s of thousands of lives from heat stroke over the past 70 years…..
Jihadists have killed 14,000+ and injured 16,000 people just in last 6 months….
When will people finally appreciate and understand that Leftist tyrants have killed 100+ million of their own citizens in the 20th century…

Reply to  SAMURAI
July 24, 2016 8:15 am

That’s an idea – EPA should rule that air conditioners must scream Allahu Akbar at least once a minute.

Reply to  Curious George
July 25, 2016 12:37 am

Mine did scream just like that, soluion? I just applied some bacon fat to the bearings and it stopped right away.

Reply to  Curious George
July 25, 2016 12:38 am

Argh, ..solution

Pat Paulsen
July 24, 2016 8:17 am

How can he be serious? Does he actually believe this guff; is he just following the party line or is he part of the swindle? Hillary’s replacement may be just as incompetent as she? Who knew?

July 24, 2016 8:20 am

Refrigeration makes the world much more efficient. For instance, if I want chicken salad for my picnic … no problem … I have refrigeration.
If my buddy’s grandmother back in the old country wants chicken for her picnic, she takes a live chicken and kills it on the spot.
You can live without refrigeration but not nearly as well. In the third world, lack of refrigeration leads to a lot of food waste.

Sources of waste exist all along the food chain … due to inadequate storage, lack of refrigeration, and exposure to sunlight. link

As far as I can tell, there’s darn little work on the public health implications of refrigeration and air conditioning. Like clean water and adequate sewers, refrigeration and air conditioning are largely uncredited for their role in producing the long healthy lives we enjoy today.

Tom Halla
July 24, 2016 8:21 am

Considering there is quite a market for scary scenarios, just think about the fact the Democrats ran Kerry for President. Imagine if he had won 🙂

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  Tom Halla
July 24, 2016 8:29 am

Yes, indeed. The US armed forces will be batlling climate change as their worst enemy … oh, wait.

July 24, 2016 8:24 am

Blowdriers are an even bigger threat, but Kerry draws the line at neglecting Le Bouffant. Planet be damned.

Robert of Ottawa
July 24, 2016 8:24 am

It seems to me that the middle east needs more air conditioners, not fewer.

Robert of Ottawa
July 24, 2016 8:28 am

I had a conversation with a friend last night that went something like this:
“Why do the weather forecasts always come with so many provisos?”
“Well, I respond, the government doesn’t want to be sued for bad weather or wrong forecasts since they now have been telling everyone that they can control the planet’s climate”.

July 24, 2016 8:51 am

Dishonest and less than intelligent buffoons like Kerry being in positions of power are the greatest threat to our well being and liberty that I can see.

Reply to  RAH
July 24, 2016 4:42 pm

Absolutely correct!

July 24, 2016 9:00 am

Wasn’t the Montreal Protocol sold also on the lower GWP of replacement refrigerants over 100 and 500 year lifetimes? AFAIK the replacements have residency lifetimes of under 75 years. They also save an enormous amount of energy. Kerry’s proposal is mere tinkering around the edges an activity suitable for dilettantes.

July 24, 2016 9:23 am

I’m not giving up my air conditioner, John Kerry. You have gone too far! The U.S. Constitution says I have a right to the “pursuit of happiness” and air conditioners are part of that. I would be decidedly unhappy without my air conditioner.

Reply to  TA
July 24, 2016 9:55 am

The US Constitution says no such thing. The Declaration of Independence, on the other hand, does have something to say about the pursuit of happiness.

Reply to  TA
July 24, 2016 11:57 am

You can pry my air conditioner from my warm sweaty hands

July 24, 2016 9:24 am

His wife will not be happy with warm ketchup when the fridge is gone too!

July 24, 2016 9:40 am

John Kerry’s assessment is truly idiotic. It’s hard to fathom how ridiculously stupid it is. That being said, are there any “legitimate” climate scientists who have criticized his comments? Are there any who were supportive? Or are all of them sitting on the sidelines, willfully ignoring his comments hoping they go away?

July 24, 2016 9:41 am

The man is an effin jackass. I know that’s not an argument but it is factual.

Mike Smith
July 24, 2016 9:56 am

It must be cool when the biggest challenges in your life are centered on domestic appliances.
This idiot is so far removed from reality, it’s breathtaking.

July 24, 2016 10:03 am

Let’s always keep in mind that the model for greenhouse gases (GHGs) of all kinds is of a planet with no night time. Their 24/7 daylight model has GHGs absorbing and re-emitting IR radiation as it enters and leaves the atmosphere. They do not admit that, during the day, this process is a wash as the GHGs are saturated and IR is traveling in both directions as it is randomly re-emitted by the GHGs.
However, at night, with no incoming or outgoing IR radiation, the GHGs are free to convert heat energy in the atmosphere to IR radiation that is emitted up and down. As the surface is almost always warmer than the air above it, the downward IR is reflected back upward to be lost to space. This easily explains why the air cools down so rapidly after the sun goes down and why little breezes kick up so quickly around the shadows of clouds on a day with scudding clouds.
As, daytime GHG effects are a wash and night time effects are outward, GHGs clearly serve to cool the planet. That is the horrible, huge secret of the junk science of global warming by man and GHGs.
Kerry does not mention that, although CFCs maybe much stronger GHGs than CO2 (this may not be all that true and needs to be checked), CFCs are at a vastly lower concentration that CO2. That is the weakness of their complaint regarding methane. Although methane is reputedly a 20-fold stronger GHG than CO2, it is at one-hundredth of CO2’s concentration, contributing only as much as 5% of the effect of CO2. But, water vapor is an even stronger GHG over which CO2 and man has no control.
Water is part of the water cycle and represents a huge global heat engine that is responsible for the movement of as much as 85% of the energy budget from he surface to altitude, where by condensation and latent heat energy release, the energy is lost to space.
It is fraudulent to pretend that CO2 warms the atmosphere which then evaporates more water with ch warms the atmosphere which then evaporates more water . . . ad nauseous and NOT to bring in the water cycle and the convection of warm moist air upward as part of the heat engine. To ignore the water cycle is to perpetrate a fraud.
As even the IPCC has been backing down on their estimate of the sensitivity of the atmosphere to a doubling of CO2, it is clear that their alarmist reports are not all that alarming. It can be argued that, as doubling is out of the question, the CO2 increases we will see in the next hundred years will be effectively undetectable in light of the normal cycles and solar activity that truly commands our climate.

Reply to  higley7
July 24, 2016 3:24 pm

Higley, good point.
I always wondered why the assumption of CO 2 warming is a one step process that ends after the initial energy trapping step with energy being radiated back to earth. In reality one knows that this is a continuous process and the radiation continues up and back to earth continuously until probably all the initial heat is sent to the atmosphere, since the CO 2 traps only a portion each step. Of course there is also more new energy added to the system until the sun sets. What is wrong with this hypothesis?

Reply to  catcracking
July 25, 2016 12:46 am

@cat and Highley7 , come on guys don’t throw in real science here you’re breaking the thread, :).

July 24, 2016 10:09 am

Let’s drop him in unairconditioned ISIS territory. He should be safer there than in his air conditioned office, right?

July 24, 2016 10:33 am

It is a far, far better thing to have a firm anchor in nonsense than to put out on the troubled seas of thought. ~John Kenneth Galbraith

July 24, 2016 10:54 am

I’ll start worrying about my air conditioner when it starts shooting at me.

July 24, 2016 10:57 am

Well, air conditioners are a real threat to Kerry’s hot air.

Phil Howerton
July 24, 2016 10:59 am

I read an article several years ago by a respected political columnist who said that John Kerry “is the stupidest Secretary of State this country has ever had.”
Kerry confirms this assessment every time he opens his mouth.

Reply to  Phil Howerton
July 25, 2016 12:47 am

Hillary a close second

Michael Jankowski
July 24, 2016 11:19 am

Who wants a large dose of irony? The replacement for HFCs is HCs…i.e., hydrocarbons…i.e., derivations from FOSSIL FUELS.

Michael Jankowski
July 24, 2016 11:21 am

Who wants a large dose of irony? The replacement for HFCs appear to be HCs…i.e., hydrocarbons…i.e., derivations from FOSSIL FUELS.

July 24, 2016 11:56 am

Deranged. that’s the only word that comes to mind comparing air conditioning to a terrorist.
Unlike the ice sheets in Antarctica which could or might slip off one day, don’t know when but it might happen. In Kerry’s case the cheese has already slipped off the cracker.
So air conditioning has joined the evil tea kettle and toasters! A true axis of evil!

Pat Kelly
July 24, 2016 12:06 pm

Air conditioners have been seen plotting and planning acts of terror throughout the civilized world. Film at !!

July 24, 2016 12:43 pm

I’ll give mine up when John Kerry gives his up.

July 24, 2016 12:58 pm

Well, Air-conditions ARE responsible for a large chunk of the measured surface warming.

Reply to  AndyG55
July 24, 2016 1:23 pm


Gunga Din
Reply to  firetoice2014
July 24, 2016 2:01 pm

Too few “+”s

Reply to  firetoice2014
July 24, 2016 6:09 pm

no no, that’s +1.6C there…

Reply to  AndyG55
July 25, 2016 7:25 am


Eugene WR Gallun
July 24, 2016 1:15 pm

I can only quote a line from one of my poems —
“And all idiots self-revealing.”
Eugene WR Gallun

Gunga Din
July 24, 2016 2:00 pm

To paraphrase a quote from the Pogo comic strip, Kerry seems to be be saying, “We have met the enemy and he is us. Not those trying to kill us.”
Kerry. ‘What a maroon!”

michael hart
July 24, 2016 2:03 pm

I’m confident that ISIS are probably more frightened of air conditioners than they are of John Kerry.

July 24, 2016 2:10 pm

Make sure that Americans can continue to bear arms and then every citizen can shoot out an air conditioner as they see fit. 🙂 Or maybe fire a secretary of state.

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
July 24, 2016 2:14 pm

Any day now I expect ISIS to claim credit for John Kerry.

David S
July 24, 2016 2:17 pm

I can see a Hollywood blockbuster coming up Air Conditioners v IS Jihadis should be truly riveting viewing.

July 24, 2016 3:01 pm

Obama/Clinton/Kerry love to downplay the threat of ISIS. I want to hear one of them tell the Black Lives Matter people that they are much more likely to die in a bathtub accident or from climate change than they are to be killed by a racist cop.

Donald Kasper
July 24, 2016 4:07 pm

The war is based on electric use and the use of freon, although it is heavier freon-22. Essentially, more anarchist nuttism.

Retired Kit P
July 24, 2016 4:22 pm

I have a hard time with Kerry on a personal level. Without the benefit of an ivy league education I served my country as a navy officer. Like my father, I enlisted for travels and to learn a trade. The navy sent me to college after a few years.
War is terrible and combat affects the soul assuming you have one. Heros downplay their heroism not seek it out to promote a political career. So while I not doing a good job of explaining this, equating terrorism to A/C indicates that Kerry lacks fundamental values for human life.
Worse than just an idiot.

Reply to  Retired Kit P
July 25, 2016 1:06 am

+ many and thanks for your service.

July 24, 2016 4:34 pm

Make electricity so expensive that 95% of the population no longer can afford it and you solved the problem.

Reply to  Robertvd
July 24, 2016 4:49 pm

Of course it would make playing Big Brother very expensive.
”The completed facility is expected to require 65 megawatts of electricity, costing about $40 million per year.”
(Mainly for cooling)

July 24, 2016 4:55 pm

With loonies like John Kerry (who served in Vietnam) in the corridors of power, real problems like ISIS are ignored while non-problems such as climate change get attention.
We have been ruled by elitist nincompoops for far too long.

Reply to  gallopingcamel
July 24, 2016 8:42 pm

Yes. When Trump wins, he needs to clean house.
In fact, he could probably get a lot more votes from both left and right by announcing that, when elected, he will block any funds for A/C in DC.

Mikkel Nielsen
July 24, 2016 5:05 pm

Do you think John F’n Kerry has air conditioning anywhere?

July 24, 2016 6:09 pm

Watch: John Kerry bangs his head on No.10 front door 5 days ago !!
D’oh !

July 24, 2016 6:38 pm

Good to see that John Kerry ineptness is not limited to Middle Eastern politics. He is equally at home issuing air-head comments about climate issues as well!

July 24, 2016 7:05 pm

I’ll make a bet. I’ll stay in my house the rest of the summer..without A/C. I’ll bet Herr Kerry, that he won’t last that long, A/C or not, if he tries to stay in a house…in an ISIS occupied city.
(Safe bet, huh?)

July 24, 2016 10:08 pm

I’m hoping that Clinton joins Kerry in calling for a ban on refrigeration. I’d love to see what happens when Democrats put themselves between the voter and his ice-cold beer.

July 24, 2016 10:26 pm

shut your air off asshole.

July 24, 2016 10:59 pm

Where do the Dems keep finding these idiots? What next Drone attacks on AC’s…

July 25, 2016 7:20 am

My AC hasn’t killed anyone.
Can’t say the same for ISIS.

July 25, 2016 7:24 am

Okay, I’ll shut off my AC with a court order from Ruth Bader Ginsburg, large daily fines from EPA Director Gina McCarthy, and overlapping fines from globalizing UN Secretary Ban Ki Moon. But I’ll only turn it off in winter and for an equal number of days of no fossil fuel heating in the Northeast.

July 25, 2016 7:27 am

I get it now. He’s positioning to run to be the next Governor of California.

Martin Mayer
July 25, 2016 7:51 am

John Kerry:

The science of climate change is leaping out at us like a scene from a 3D movie.

In other words: It’s scary looking, but there is literally nothing there.
Sometimes they tell the truth without trying.

July 25, 2016 8:16 am

Okay, turn off all the AC units at the convention in Philly.

Reply to  Resourceguy
July 25, 2016 11:49 am

For the sake of the children, the AC must be turned off in Philly!

Dr. Strangelove
July 25, 2016 8:31 am

Epic battle of the brains: John Kerry vs. Jim Carrey
Kerry: Aircon as big a threat as ISIS
Carrey: Dumb, dumber and Kerry
Who won? You decide

Reply to  Dr. Strangelove
July 25, 2016 10:04 am

No contest, one is just acting.

July 25, 2016 9:56 am

In the Middle East where most Islamic Terror groups actually come from the Climate is so hot Refrideration and Air Conditioning is not a luxury it’s a Nesscessity .
In Iraq between six and fourteen hours of power outages everyday certainly helped the insurgentcy

July 25, 2016 10:08 am

Kerry is a response to the internal admission that spying is rampant inside the State Dept. No amount of spying can figure out this crazy ant strategist extraordinaire.

July 25, 2016 11:05 am

Tell Mr. Kerry to move to Phoenix, Arizona. buy a house without A/C and without Refrigerator.
I’m not as educated as Mr. Kerry and I’ve said many stupid things before in my life, but this is the most stupid thing that I’ve ever heard from an educated man and specially from the Secretary State of the Greatest Country on earth.

July 25, 2016 11:48 am

Kerry could have been Prime Minister to Nero.
Come to think of it…….

July 25, 2016 1:23 pm

Air conditioners kill 30’000 people per year?

July 25, 2016 1:47 pm

That is a good idea. All forms of air conditioning should be banned world wide. Doing so might help in lowering human population which is way out of control.

Mark - Helsinki
July 26, 2016 7:15 am

I wonder if John Kerry considered that when he was negotiating with Saudi Arabia a year ago, in an air conditioned room, to lower the price of oil?
Doesn’t fit is AC CO2 is bad mmkay rhetoric

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