From my sources in Virginia Court, comes this news about what we reported on recently: CEI fires back at Ed Maibach over ’emergency stay’ of #RICO20 FOIA documents – looks like he’s toast
The court heard the Maibach motion in about two minutes and ordered the entirety of FOI released. For the third time. Released was a copy-paper boxful of records that GMU originally claimed didn’t exist.
We will have more on this later after the legal team reviewing them can digitize, report, and release them.
For those just tuning in, here are some other stories to read to understand what just happened.
UPDATE: here is the order to release “forthwith”. Notes indicate the GMU attorney was not even present at today’s hearing.
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Interesting, the next phase for the media and GMU is likely “what difference does it make”?
That sounds familiar. Where have I heard it before … ?
I don’t know. Everyone before him did it.
Depends upon what the meaning of “it” is.
No, no, no. HIllary gets up and calls it “old news.”
Nah, she just says they should have used any old private email account for important, top secret stuff.
George Mason authored the Virginia Declaration of Rights, which inspired the Bill of Rights. He would be rolling over in his grave to hear of the RICO20’s scheme to silence debate on Anthropogenic Catastrophic Climate Change.
GMU, in the attempt to hide leftist lunacy, muzzling free speech has three choices: rename itself Karl Marx University, Saul Alinsky University, or Herbert Marcuse University.
What would really burn the believers would be a proposal to name the law school at George Mason after the legal giant, Justice Antonin Scalia.
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I have never felt such pride as I did when I saw that the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia did not throw a wrench in the plans to rename the law school. It is so nice when people have spines.
“What would really burn the believers would be a proposal to name the law school at George Mason after the legal giant, Justice Antonin Scalia.”
… Anthony Scalia School Of Law … makes an interesting acronym.
That was quick.
Very quick.
And very nice!
“reviewing them can digitize”
Aren’t they required to release digital copies?
nope – the hard copy is meant to slow down the reading, discovery, and dissemination of information. ‘Deny and Delay’ is a common tactic.
I think it is funny. Which is more green: Printing documents using a lot of paper using machines that require electricity and then using fossil fuel powered vehicles to transport the documents? Or sending several files through email without using a single dead tree? The hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Wait until you have to deal with the TCEQ’s RCRA permit applications. Send 5 copies of your 1000+ page permit application to the same office in Austin.Plus a digital copy.
I wish I was kidding. I spent over $50 on binders alone, not to mention shipping.
I’ve provided technical assistance to lawyers in lawsuits. They routinely run large volumes of documents through optical character recognition software to create searchable PDFs etc
Actual e-mails include meta-data that help you determine who sent or received the e-mail in question.
That’s PRECISELY why some attorneys only produce scanned PDFs of the e-mails and other documents – – to strip off the metadata so you can’t tell when the document was actually written (or on which machine).
I, too, have provided “technical assistance” to a friend’s brother, who is a lawyer. He wanted to find out if someone was tapping his phone. I crawled up under his big house and found not one but two celllular phone devices recording the family’s every word. I was told not to tell anyone over a very nice dinner far from the house. It took the prosecutors quite a long time to realize all the BS they were fed over those illegal taps was the reason they kept losing nebulous cases against the lawyer’s clients….(c;] At my suggestion, we set up a “game camera”, meant to capture digital pictures of hunting game in infrared no animal can see. It captured some fantasitc photos of some of the cops and law clerks going under his house. “Blackmail” is an ugly term, but it means you’re demanding money not offering to publish pictures of “yard birds” in local papers….(c;]
It was great fun! I’d do it again in a heartbeat….”for the good of the country”, mind you.
Hunting box stores and Amazon have the neatest game cameras….
Time to crowd-source the review process. Links to documents SVP.
notfubar is right. Producing as poor quality paper documents is, technically, compliant. But is also an obvious ploy to release as little as possible. I work, and have worked, in e-discovery and digital data forensics my entire career. My personal, and professional, opinion is that a paper production of electronic documents is de facto obstruction.
But Maibach and the rest of the RICO20 meant so well 🙂
Well, Tom, let’s hope he has to pay the costs of his ‘good intentions’ (What’s that about the road to hell……?)
I really hope that HE is the one who has to pay. I have a nasty feeling that this could result in increased tuition and fees for the students – because costs are not high enough already. sarc/off
“The road to Hell is paved with good intentions…and striped with Socialist arithmetic.”
I need to buy a Barbara Streisand CD to play for events like this.
Barbara gives me the runs. she causes Gutteral Warming- an infestation of disharmony of the innards.
Guttural worming?
But she had a very nice voice when she was young.
Like so many entertainers, she should have stuck to the singing.
Try this beautiful piano music:
If you turn it up loud enough, it even covers the cursing on your phone….
Why not the world’s tiniest violin?
-Or the classical 9 inch piano player?
Does the Court make note of the number of messages they were told that don’t exist that actually do? It seems to me that is perjury. I am not in a position to judge, but the Court is.
Isn’t it a criminal act to falsely deny something to a Court? I allus thought so.
I wonder if any of Hillary’s emails are in there too.
No, as a large portion were marked “classified”. None of your business. There!!
So much for sanctions….
That was a separate motion. No word so far on whether that one was heard yet.
This was the court denying Maibach’s motion to stop the release of these documents.
The motion for sanctions came from CEI and hasn’t been ruled on yet.
Stephen: Paul P. and Mark W. are correct, this entry isn’t considering sanctions. Also (for other commenters) it is not after a hearing, it is counsel for CEI walking in the door with entry, saying other counsel (for GMU) was contacted and informed that CEI would present this for signature. The scrawl is likely the judge’s, essentially noting that GMU counsel /s/ line blank. Likely the judge wrote this because, without the scrawl, the doc looks like an improper ex parte approach, but not improper because GMU counsel was contacted and because this is denying a request twice denied already. Here’s my projection-Maibach’s atty will claim improper ex parte, seek removal of judge and another stay until removal decided (pretty aggressive, Maibach may not have enough $ for this, he didn’t steal as much as Shukla); or she may try to walk in with her own “denial of sanctions” entry ex parte, saying “well, CEI did it first.” We’ve not heard the end of this, real shame is, this would have been Mann a while ago if courts in UVa case had followed law instead of going for the absurd research exception.
Malbach’s position on the 1st Amendment: “Shut up and go to jail!”
Well, the court is likely to just let the identified docs be released and let the intransigence be “water under the bridge.” Too bad we don’t hold lawyers and government officials to account anymore. After all, the Obama Admin lied to the courts blatantly and repeatedly about DACA (Deferred Action for immigrants) and all they got was some “bad, bad lawyers” scolding and more “ethics training.” BFD.
They have every reason to lie and see if they can get away with it.
Alex
The Texas judge exercised his authority and banned out of state Justice Dept attorneys from presenting in Texas.
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He should’ve jailed them for contempt.
Is Maibach emulating the unethical conduct by Obama’s DOJ Federal Judge Sanctions ‘Unethical’ DOJ in Immigration Lawsuit
Unfortunately, the DOJ lawyers are getting a slap on the wrist… they have to attend something like 3 hours of class each of the next five years. There might be other sanctions coming, but it doesn’t sound like it so far.
After Obama leaves office, there are going to be many books and articles written on what REALLY went on in his administration.
Hopefully some enterprising Attorney will start RICO proceedings on the RICO20.
No, it’s not a good idea to lie to the judge. The judge can make things real hard on you, if they want to. No competent, right-thinking judge would allow a lie in his court to go unpunished.
That toast looks tasty!
Sorry folks Off Topic meant for TA, TA, found the link@ur momisugly TA May 27 9 44 am, here is the link ( it was on WUWT around May 20) https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/05/20/the-morality-of-meti-should-we-broadcast-to-let-aliens-know-were-here/comment-page-1 I do not know if Anthony gives out e-mail addresses but if you want to ask him for mine you have my permission to get it, if you want I could leave it here but I will only do that if Anthony will not. I’ll see if you are other recent threads to leave this same message. We were taliking about UFO sightings on that thread and you asked for a more detailed description. But again I can leave my e-mail. Prefer not to.
TA
Hard to square your statement with the mld action (ethics training) that has been taken.
“Making it hard” sounds more like suspending your law license for knowingly and deliberately lying to a federal judge.
Scooter Libby was sent to prison for lying to an FBI agent.
The FBI one morning
Lost its notes, suborning.
Eckenrode,
Where is that toad?
He’s wanted at a harrowing.
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Libby remembered the conversation one way.
The FBI agent remembered it a different way.
Neither had any documentation regarding the conversation.
The DC jury decided to believe the FBI agent over a member of a Republican administration.
Javert Chip May 27, 2016 at 3:15 pm: “TA, Hard to square your statement with the mild action (ethics training) that has been taken.”
I was speaking out *against* the ethics training used as punishment. The lawyers should already have their ethics training before they enter the court room.
Javert Chip: “Making it hard” sounds more like suspending your law license for knowingly and deliberately lying to a federal judge.”
Well, let me just say that I would throw the book at a lawyer who deliberately lied in a court room. That lawyer certainly should not be allowed to practice law again, was my main point.
Javert Chip: “Scooter Libby was sent to prison for lying to an FBI agent.”
I would be happy to see these DOJ lawyers going to jail. A deliberate lie in a court of law strikes at the very foundation of our government. People should go to jail for doing that.
Am I on the right page now? 🙂
The legal system is a system of lawyers, by lawyers, for lawyers. Only time they care a wit is if the lie is to one of them.
I’ve flat out shown lawyer violated ethics rules in court, and pointed out said was a violation. Judge didn’t say a peep.
If you trust our new nobility aka lawyers to honestly police themselves, I got some oceanfront property in Arizona I will sell you.
How about left thinking judges?
Don’t worry Ed, Gore will support you, won’t you Al, Al, hello Al, Al !!!!!!
Hi, you have reached the voice message of Al, I’m currently out of the country visiting the Maldives for a much needed vacation.
Perhaps his rotundness will cause the Maldives to finally sink.
If I were him I’d be careful not to get to close to the edge, he might cause them to capsize.
Actually Gore is in the Maldives for some much needed water boarding, er, water therapy, yeah that’s it water therapy
#AI10 lol, celebrating 10 years of an Inconvenient truth.
Celebrating 10 years of failed predictions.
It’s not sinking that’s the problem, it’s tipping over.
Pointman
An attempt to establish an authoritarian government.
Here’s another example:
http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/05/26/former-obama-energy-chief-slams-epa-climate-regs-falsely-sold-as-impactful-all-u-s-annual-emissions-will-be-offset-by-3-weeks-of-chinese-emissions/
“Former Obama Department of Energy Assistant Secretary Charles McConnell: ‘The Clean Power Plan has been falsely sold as impactful environmental regulation when it is really an attempt by our primary federal environmental regulator to take over state and federal regulation of energy.’
‘What is also clear, scientifically and technically, is that EPA’s plan will not significantly impact global emissions.’
‘All of the U.S. annual emissions in 2025 will be offset by three weeks of Chinese emissions. Three weeks.”
You know how people started using the term “Pulled a Madoff” after the whole Bernie thing happened? I suggest we start using the term “Pulled a Maibach” and be the trendsetters this time around. 🙂
I proposed on here at least a couple of years ago that we quantify the climate hoax in Madoff Units. I seem to remember that it was calculated that One Madoff Unit equals $17 Billion.
Nice picture, needs garlic butter.
In other news:
Popcorn trading at near record highs. Investors who went long on futures, now doing very well.
Gravy
And bacon, and eggs, if we had some eggs
If only we hadn’t run out of bacon yesterday.
Bread pudding with cinnamon toast topping.
Er, Jam!
Garlic? Garlic on French Toast? You’re kidding, right?
This is what happens when you don’t rise to the level of the FOIA defiance and non-compliance team for assistance. Right Lois? and Hillary? and Holdren? and Mann? At this lower level, your only recourse is a plane ticket to India or a climate media consulting gig.
(y) This could bring to GMU some very needed adult supervision.
Ha ha
http://www.disclosurenewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/image2.jpg
Firing of Information Act?
The judge threw Maibach’s request for an emergency stay into the dumpster behind the courthouse and torched it.
I wonder if Hillary’s hard drive is in there?
No, here it is
http://6336-presscdn-26-82.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/iron-filings.jpg
Even fire cant guarantee the data is gone unless the drive is melted into a pool
Looks like granulated coal ready to use to preheat a free clean green renewable solar boiler factory.
g
G apparently that pile of filings is Hillary’s “30.000” personal emails :p
She claims she sent 30k personal emails in a short few years
Mark – Helsinki
Ahh, but it is easier than that. Just heat the disk above the Curie temperature and the disk gets terminal Alzheimers.
Hard disk surface materials are often bulk glassy alloys (metals with no crystal structure), for example Iron-Yttrium-Boron with an exotic formula. You can predict them with phase diagrams and make you own. They are stupendously strong (5 GPa) so they resist damage from the read head. After an exotic manufacturing process the material is ground to powder and put on the disks. If they exceed about 400 C most are no longer bulk glassy alloys, let alone holders of information.
You can erase a platter by heating it in an ordinary oven.
Crispin in Waterloo
May 27, 2016 at 2:53 pm
Mark – Helsinki
Ahh, but it is easier than that. Just heat the disk above the Curie temperature and the disk gets terminal Alzheimers.
Hard disk surface materials are often bulk glassy alloys (metals with no crystal structure), for example Iron-Yttrium-Boron with an exotic formula. You can predict them with phase diagrams and make you own. They are stupendously strong (5 GPa) so they resist damage from the read head. After an exotic manufacturing process the material is ground to powder and put on the disks. If they exceed about 400 C most are no longer bulk glassy alloys, let alone holders of information.
You can erase a platter by heating it in an ordinary oven.
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Platters have a 5 micron cobalt alloy coating.
So the curie temp would be 1400k or 1126.85c depending on the alloy, it may vary
My ordinary oven does not go that high.
But the platter, is made from weaker aluminum (660.3°C melt point) alloy or a mixture of glass (1400 °C to 1600 °C depending on the composition of glass) and ceramic (around 4000c)
My oven’s max temp is 300c
I’ve been destroying data for over a decade for companies I worked for when retiring or replacing hardware in financial services
Grinding the platter is 100% no risk insurance. No risk in financial services is a great thing.
and it is easier to do and much more cost effective
I see BBC News reporting: “Donald Trump would ‘cancel’ Paris climate deal.”
So that would be… French toast?
Ba dum tisss
You win the “Groaner da jour” award.
in seine
Why not. James Hansen said the Paris talks were worthless. So Trump and Hansen agree on something.
A fecund lawyer… that turned out well
Justic is served.
It will be interesting to see who gets pulled into this via emails. There is significant apprehension behind the curtain that is going to get pulled back. The names involved may be a very big suprise……
Look for the word malice soon.
Queue up Dr. Smith “Oh the pain”!
Well that lets me out. I don’t even have PhD in Ice cream making.
g
Queue up Dr. Smith “Oh the pain”!
“Pain” is French for “bread.” Toast would be “pain grillé.”
Paper copies? Was this the same sort of deliberate effort to bog-down the investigation – like Hillary did with her first batch of e-mails?
ummm, let me think…. I would say ‘yes.’
OT but worth a look
Bad weather may explain Mongols sudden retreat from Hungary in 1242
“not because it was too cold …… melting ice and snow would have puddled, preventing the grass for growing very well that spring, leaving little for the horses to eat. Also, it would have meant lots of mud, making travel very difficult.”
http://phys.org/news/2016-05-bad-weather-mongols-sudden-retreat.html
Actually they overshot their 14 day horse ride control range.
Timor the Lame, learned to his dismay, that you couldn’t keep management control beyond a 14 day horse ride. Took too damn long to learn that everything was going pear shaped.
G
Hi Big G
Interesting thing is that the present day Hungarian language is based on Mongolian, suggesting that many may stayed behind. I know three or four Hungarians, my wife was amused when one of them called Attila introduced him self. For a small nation they were very strong in the field of science, I’m sure you know of some, but von Neumann is probably the best known.
It is not generally known that the real reason Chinggis Khan went West in the first place was he heard when he was young that the best grazing in all the world was on the Plains of Hungary. He conquered and slaughtered his way there to find out if it was true. He killed a lot of farmers along the way because he felt that farming was a waste of good grazing land.
The Mongolian language is closely related to Korean and Japanese. One can learn the others in 3 or 4 months. However, the relationships between these languages go way back to the Turkic kingdoms which thrived in Central Asia long before, changing the borders every century or so. There are large Turkic graves recently discovered in Kharkhoram, the old capital, and there are “Turkish graves” a stone’s throw from Ulaanbaatar dated 535 AD.
There are maps of the Turkic kingdoms through the ages at the new National Museum in Kharkhoram along with hundreds of arrow heads from different eras.
I thought that the Korean language was most closely related to Finnish, for some odd reason. The alphabetic form of Hangul was adopted in the 15th Century, and otherwise their written language would be pictographic like Chinese or Japanese.
vukcevic
“Interesting thing is that the present day Hungarian language is based on Mongolian…”
Not sure where you get that from? Hungarian and Finnish are Uralic languages and go back way before the Mongol invasions – probably a thousand years or more.
Don’t you wish that archeologists that have never petted a horse would refrain from speculating about what an army of outstanding horsemen might find difficult or insurmountable circumstances in keeping their animals on the move? Archeologists speculate in the same stupid way about what hunting cultures might have found difficult.
fossilsage May 27, 2016 at 3:56 pm
Don’t you wish that archeologists that have never petted a horse would refrain from speculating ….
Was your comment aimed at one of the comments? Or Doctor Richard Gatling?
No one pets the enemy. You just find practical ways to do them in.
The Mongols lost one battles in the “Ahem” holy land and a hard won victory in the German Polish area.
They encountered for the first time European Armored Heavy cavalry. Teutonic Knights, was a bit of a shock to them.Just a handful proved to be quit the handful. There was a bit of finger pointing after the battle. Interesting battle to look at.
michael
my address was to vukcevic but my point was that an awful lot of academicians speculate about things like commanding cavalry without any clue about what is possible or how a culture that dealt with those issues on a day to day basis might settle them. There’s similar mind set in anthropologists who suggest that prehistoric cave bears created an “impassable” obstacle to certain migrations of prehistoric migrations of humans.
fossilsage May 27, 2016 at 7:45 pm
I agree.
Too many sit at a computer read a bit and think they have all the answers. If you study military history you should at least walk on a few battlefields to try and get a feel of the ground, see how long it takes to work across the field. Hold a few weapons of the time. It is the same with all the other aspects of history anthropology Geology, the whole list.
If they do field work get their hands dirty, then yeah they have some credibility
twelve years ago i took my son to Fort Niagara in New York. There was a group of people working “dig” in the center of the grounds. I brought my son to them and asked if they would tell him about what they were doing. They took him down into the dig and spent a half hour showing him every thing they were doing and all they had uncovered. He had a blast
It don’t get any better for inquisitive six year old.
michael
And every artifact archeologists don’t understand, they attribute to religious use.