
Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Huffington Post has suggested that a full scale nuclear war, and the climatic aftermath, not only might do more damage that anthropogenic global warming, but it might actually be more likely.
Climate Change for the Impatient: A Nuclear Mini Ice Age
Everyone has heard about climate change caused by fossil fuels, which threatens to raise Earth’s average surface temperature by about 3-5°C by the year 2100 unless we take major steps toward mitigation. But there’s an eerie silence about the other major climate change threat, which might lower Earth’s average surface temperature by 7°C: a decade-long mini ice age caused by a U.S.-Russia nuclear war.
This is colder than the 5°C cooling we endured 20,000 years ago during the last ice age. The good news is that, according to state-of-the-art climate models by Alan Robock at Rutgers University, a nuclear mini ice age would be rather brief, with about half of the cooling gone after a decade. The bad news is that this more than long enough for most people on Earth to starve to death if farming collapses. Robock’s all-out-war scenario shows cooling by about 20°C (36°F) in much of the core farming regions of the U.S., Europe, Russia and China (by 35°C in parts of Russia) for the first two summers — you don’t need to be a master farmer to figure out what freezing summers would do to food supply. It’s hard to predict exactly how devastating this famine would be if thousands of Earth’s largest cities were reduced to rubble and global infrastructure collapsed, but whatever small fraction of all humans don’t succumb to starvation, hypothermia or epidemics would need to cope with roving, armed gangs desperate for food.
Unless we take stronger action than there’s current political will for, we’re likely to face both dramatic fossil-fuel climate change and dramatic nuclear climate change within a century, give or take. Since no politician in their right mind would launch global nuclear Armageddon on purpose, the nuclear war triggering the mini ice age will most likely start by accident or miscalculation. This has has almost happened many times in the past, as this timeline shows. The annual probability of accidental nuclear war is poorly known, but it certainly isn’t zero: John F. Kennedy estimated the probability of the Cuban Missile Crisis escalating to war between 33 percent and 50 percent. We know that near-misses keep occurring regularly, and there are probably many more close calls than haven’t been declassified. Simple math shows that even if the annual risk of global nuclear war is as low as 1 percent, we’ll probably have one within a century and almost certainly within a few hundred years. We just don’t know exactly when — it could be the day your great granddaughter gets married, or it could be next Tuesday when the Russian early-warning system suffers an unfortunate technical malfunction.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-tegmark/climate-change-for-the-im_b_9865898.html
Some of the near misses are truly terrifying. For example, the 1983 Soviet Nuclear False Alarm, when the world was saved because one Soviet officer stood by his judgement that the inbound ICBMs detected by their early warning systems were a software glitch;
Shortly after midnight, the bunker’s computers reported that one intercontinental ballistic missile was heading toward the Soviet Union from the United States. Petrov considered the detection a computer error, since a first-strike nuclear attack by the United States was likely to involve hundreds of simultaneous missile launches in order to disable any Soviet means of a counterattack. Furthermore, the satellite system’s reliability had been questioned in the past. Petrov dismissed the warning as a false alarm, though accounts of the event differ as to whether he notified his superiors or not after he concluded that the computer detections were false and that no missile had been launched. Later, the computers identified four additional missiles in the air, all directed towards the Soviet Union. Petrov again suspected that the computer system was malfunctioning, despite having no other source of information to confirm his suspicions. The Soviet Union’s land radar was incapable of detecting missiles beyond the horizon, and waiting for it to positively identify the threat would limit the Soviet Union’s response time to a few minutes.
It was subsequently determined that the false alarms were caused by a rare alignment of sunlight on high-altitude clouds and the satellites’ Molniya orbits, an error later corrected by cross-referencing a geostationary satellite.
In explaining the factors leading to his decision, Petrov cited his belief and training that any U.S. first strike would be massive, so five missiles seemed an illogical start. In addition, the launch detection system was new and in his view not yet wholly trustworthy, while ground radar had failed to pick up corroborative evidence even after several minutes of the false alarm.
Read more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident
The risk of nuclear war has largely faded from public consciousness, but given the number of unstable states jumping onto the nuclear bandwagon, the risk of a major nuclear exchange might actually be higher now, than during the classic cold war years.
Even if the nuclear threat is never realised, there are plenty of other threats likely to emerge in the near future, as our species explores the possibilities of nanotech, biotech and artificial intelligence.
The one silver lining of these rapid and accelerating changes to the global threat landscape, is that the idea that anthropogenic climate change is the worst threat we face is becoming increasingly untenable. Even the Huffington Post is starting to question this assertion.
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An EMP warhead coming from the Gulf of Mexico is more of a worry than Global Warming or Russian Nukes.
Except the part that the EMP might be made with some “lost” Russian nukes.
It would make a good novel! On February 17th, it was reported that Baghdad had reported stolen, some radioactive material the size of a laptop. Nothing has been said about it since!
Bazzer1959, have a look here: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-radioactive-idUSKCN0VU0JY
The story doesn’t say what isotope the material is but, it is likely either Co-60 or Ir-92. The source holders are commonly DU and built to Class B standards. Typical activity is between 20-100Ci. At least, for the radiographic source I am familiar with.
As for using these isotopes to build an EMP device… not possible. They would, however, make a great dirty bomb. The media would be screaming ,’Repent for the End is Nigh,’ from the roof tops if one was ever built and set off.
It is a pretty good story, with sequels.
One Second After http://www.onesecondafter.com/
Based off of Federally commissioned reports on an EMP attack and the effect it would have on the US.
We don’t need to wait for someone to produce an EMP bomb. Sooner or later the sun will deliver another Carrington Event – a natural nuclear scale EMP pulse which will engulf the entire world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859
George W. Bush removed 500 tons of yellowcake uranium from Iraq, after the war.
Correction to a couple of minor errors…It should be Ir192. Also, it should read “radiographic sources I am familiar with.”
What is radioactive material doing in Baghdad? Is that the yellow cake uranium that Saddam got from Africa?
Eric Worrall
With the current weakness of the magnetic shield due to low sunspot activity, a Carrington Level Event could happen with a smaller CME/EMP. Just last week a small CME caused a bunch of electrical issues around the world.
most of the world’s weapons grade material is in Japan. japan only recently sent plutonium to the US via ship, that weapons grade material is also not mentioned by Obama in his recent speaking on nukes.
A nuke was flown across the US on a bomber not so far back wasn’t it. An live nuke at that.
If that bomber had crashed, and the resulting explosion could have caused nuclear war
An asteroid can start a nuke war
We dont have to worry about “bogeymen” that have never materialized in 4 decades, and the only nation to use them was not an “unstable state”. So there’s that.
A conventional war between nuke powers, a total war, would lead to nukes being fired by the first side to face total defeat. Remember Japan was totally defeated and surrendered totally bar keeping the emperor, so the choice before the allies was let japan keep the emperor (atleast temporarily) and end the war, or drop a nuke, they chose to drop a nuke.
No one needs unstable nations, Russia and America have done just fine bringing us to the brink.
A nuke carried on a plane once crashed in a farmer’s field in Goldsboro, North Carolina. So, yes, crazier things have happened.
A crashing plane will not set off a nuke. You need a precise sequence of signals with sub-nanosecond timing to trigger a nuclear reaction. Exploding the shell around the nuclear core with anything less than that and all that happens is a few pounds of radioactive material gets spread around the landscape.
A crash won’t set off a nuke.
The combined yield of all nuclear weapons on earth is less than 5000 MT, ie the equivalent of five billion tons of TNT. The energy of the K/T extinction impact was equivalent to around 100 trillion tons of TNT, ie over 20,000 times more powerful.
All the nukes in the world aren’t a pimple on the posterior of the dino-killing asteroid or comet.
Mark, you have some odd ideas.
1: You can’t set off a nuke by crashing it. You couldn’t have even set off the crude little boy that way, much less the much more precise nukes we have now. If you watch “The Peacemaker”, that’s probably the only movie I can think of that treats nukes accurately.
2: Japan had not offered any terms of surrender before Hiroshima. I have heard conflicting accounts about whether overtures had started before Nagasaki (though I am doubtful), but no formal offer of surrender was given until after both bombs had dropped. The choice Truman made was nuclear weapons or operation Downfall, with its predicted millions of casualties.
Japanese military officers tried to keep the emperor from surrendering even after Nagasaki. They were going to kidnap him and destroy the recording of his surrender speech.
Millions of Japanese would have died in 1946 and the northern half of the country would have been occupied by the USSR without the A-bombs.
Mark
Welcome to the truly terrifying world of my teenage years:-
1966 B-52 Nuclear bomber crash at Palomares in Spain
“Bye Doom May 10, 2016 at 3:28 pm”
Before Hiroshima, the US wanted to surrender, unconditionally. Japan refused. After Hiroshima, the US offered the Japanese to surrender their military, thus saving face for the Emperor. Japanese politicians refused. The second weapon was deployed. The first weapon was not armed before it was flown to Japan, mostly due to aircraft crashes on the island. It was armed in the air before the drop. I understand the last human to touch the first nuclear weapon used in war still holds the “plugs” he removed while arming the weapon is still alive.
Voice of authority here, having been to nuke weapons school and having patted more than a few on the nose when pre-flighting the bomb bay :
Bombers do not fly with nukes on board in peacetime. When nukes are flown anywhere, they go on cargo aircraft.
There is no such thing as a “live” nuke.
Our nukes are “smart.” They have a sequence of things that must happen before they detonate, and the first thing is that they must have permission to start the sequence. Everything must work perfectly, or they don’t have the capability to go off.
The explosive sphere around the plutonium is segmented. Each segment is separately detonated, and if they aren’t triggered at exactly the same time, you just blow bits and pieces all over several hundred yards of territory. A crash, if it even causes a detonation, will not do so symmetrically.
I’ll bet you can recall that shortly after the CSSC was installed, word came down to NOT put S-A-C-S-U-X in the windows? ;).
Models, models, models.
Auto.
Not a believer.
Well, that’s something they can’t accurately test. I do have my doubts, as the hundreds of nuclear tests over the 20th century should have had measurable impacts if the atmosphere was that sensitive. Most likely, it will have some impact. However, I’m more worried about the direct and indirect effects of hundreds of nuclear warheads destroying the world’s civil and financial infrastructure. Little inconsequential things like massive fireballs and radioactive fallout.
The 520 atmospheric nuclear explosions, including eight underwater, have yielded in total 545 megatons, of which 217 MT were from fission and 328 MT from fusion.
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-662-03610-5_17
The vast majority of detonations in a nuclear war would yield less than this average of over one megaton each. Maybe all of them.
It’s now possible to make non-nuke EMP weapons, but a single one can’t take down the grid and electronics of a whole continent.
Congress had a study made. 3 at about 20 – 350 miles over the US would take down the electrical grid. It is estimated, that without power, there would be a 80-90% death toll in the first year from starvation, riots and other issues.
http://www.empcommission.org/docs/empc_exec_rpt.pdf
Nukes need maintenance. They have polonium and tritium in them that have pretty short half-lives. If a nuke stays lost for more than a couple of years, it won’t go off properly, it’ll fizzle. See wikipedia and Clancy’s Sum Of All Fears. You need a professional crew and industrial materials and equipment to maintain a nuclear bomb of modern design.
This is a Good Thing(tm).
Peter
Whose to say that the people who “found” those nukes don’t have the information to keep them maintained?
Polonium-210 is only for primitive nukes – it helps initiation if your engineering quality isn’t good enough for symmetrical implosion. US and Russian nukes don’t need it. North Korean ones probably do. In 1957 in the fire at Winscale UK, there was a big release and land contamination with Po210 which was covered up by the British authorities, primarily so that the Americans would not know how primitive our own (British) nukes were.
HuffPo needs eyeballs…..to pay the writers union dues and in turn to use union dues for superpac campaign donations. Every little bit helps the demented cause.
Watch people’s faces when you refuse to cave to the fear–and straight-faced sight primary sources. They damn near turn purple. The Matrix is cracking, now, folks . . .
Robbock’s scenario is preposterous. Its assumptions are far more ridiculous even than those of “climate change” models.
Sorry. Robock. He’s been feeding at the nuclear winter trough since 1984, at least.
Gee. Ya think?
The sad thing is that this speculative assertion – written as if there might actually be some doubt – is the most rational thing I’ve seen from the Huff and Puff in years.
Nuclear Winter was considered to be a real threat in some (alarmist) quarters in the 1980s. The notion was thoroughly discredited after the Iraq oil well fires of 1991.
It is so long ago now that the younger crowd probably has no idea what we are talking about with Nuclear Winter.
The well fires did not falsify “nuclear winter,” inasmuch as the “nuclear winter” scenario involved the presumption that the nuclear fireball would transport smoke aerosols above the tropopause.
But “nuclear winter” was bunk for other reasons, having to do with the fact that the weapon yields that would have caused fireball ascent through the tropopause would have such short residence times near the ground that they could not have collected any smoke aerosols.
The astronomical Dr. Sagan also made ludicrous assumptions about soot. In the first place, most US nukes were targeted on Soviet nuclear weapons located in remote areas, not on cities. Some Soviet ICBM silos were in forested areas, but others in desert, tundra or steppe.
Know what else might do more damage than global warming?
Yep, you guessed it; an attack by space aliens.
Sure, eventually some virus gets them but hooboy, the damage they do before then.
Independence Day and War of the Worlds anyone? 😉 Oh, and the upcoming Independence Day Resurgence movie, not sure if they will use a similar technique though to repel the aliens……..
For the Global Warming crowd, the correct “alien invasion” movie is “Mars Attacks!”
No question about it.
But Will Smith is not in the new one. Sad Face…
Zombies do more damage. Or visigoths. Or, for that matter, the yuppies who bought up our town, paved it over and painted it green circa 1988. And now drive Priuses my tax dollars subsidize.
This story is poppycock. More doom and gloom from propagandists trying to scare us into complying with their agenda.
“Since no politician in their right mind would launch global nuclear Armageddon on purpose…”, complete and utter crap of a statement. Politicians of one stripe or another will indeed, with malice aforethought, order or allow nuclear strikes if they believe it will further their cause.
As for the chance of a nuclear war happening… it’ll depend on whether the USA, China and/or Russia decide to mix it up. If they do, the war will go nuclear, very quickly. And if that happens, most of us won’t care a great deal about whether the theories of nuclear winter are correct, or not.
Between Iran and N. Korea, there are a non-trivial number of politicians who aren’t in their right minds, who have (or will shortly have) access to nuclear weapons.
MarkW is correct. We have several delusional leaders in the world who are about to get some very dangerous weapons.
We should not allow them to acquire them, if we have any sense.
If it were me, I would station some Aegis cruisers and destroyers off the coasts of North Korea and Iran and would shoot down every ballistic missile they tried to launch, in their boost phase. I would mess up their test program real bad! 🙂
Yeah, I know they won’t like it. That’s tough.
All the world leaders are psychopaths.
Huffpo sez “Since no politician in their right mind would launch global nuclear Armageddon on purpose…”
Now, consider Kim Jong-un or the mullahs in Iran. Nuff’ said.
Kim Jong-Un is certifiable, and while he might deem it very impressive to launch a rocket with a weapon on it, there is little prospect that it would function all the way to target.
Kim Jong-Un is certifiable, but I suspect the leaders of the military aren’t. Now, as for the variety of religious maniacs in Iran, well, anything’s possible, but again I’m pretty sure the generals there aren’t completely suicidal.
In both cases, any general who wasn’t 100% devoted to their leaders cause, would have been sacked long ago.
Who knows? Iran has one of the worst methamphetamine abuse rates in the world, plenty of people in the Iranian military probably haven’t slept for a long time.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/13/breaking-bad-tehran-iran-crystal-meth-methamphetamine
Pristina Airport Incident 1999. Came damn close to a shooting war between Russia and USA back then. Luckily, for every military leader who thinks it would be a good idea, there are usually 2 or 3 who don’t and are willing to put the brakes on.
NATO told Turkey to cool their jets, so to speak, after shooting down the Russian Su-24 over Syria.
At Pristina, British General Mike Jackson wouldn’t go along with US General Wes Clark’s desire to block the runway.
dickon66 wrote: “Pristina Airport Incident 1999. Came damn close to a shooting war between Russia and USA back then.”
Yeah, that was our old buddy General Wesley Clark, who almost got us into a war with Russia.
in 1999, Bill Clinton had originally refused to put American ground troops into the Kosovo war. Clinton wanted to just stick to bombing the Serbs from 25,000 ft.
After it became apparent that Clinton’s bombing campaign was not going to dislodge the Serbs, the NATO commanders wanted to send in ground troops to defeat the Serbs (which they did in a matter of weeks, once they were introduced into the theater).
But Clinton, being a lily-livered Liberal, did not want to send in American ground troops, and initially balked at doing so. This had the very fortunate benefit of causing the NATO allies to appoint a British general to be in charge of the NATO ground force.
Normally, the American General Wesley Clark would have been the commander. This was a fortunate circumstance indeed.
Because, you see, at one point, the NATO ground troops had Russian troops surrounded at the Pristina airport, and the Russians were refusing to leave the airport.
So delusional General Wesley Clark advocated that the NATO ground troops attack the Russians and force them out of the airport.
Happily, the British General, who was firmly anchored in reality, told General Clark that he was not prepared to start World War III that day, and refused to follow Clark’s recommendation.
A couple of days later the Russians agreed to leave the airport peacefully.
Nowadays, we get General Wesley Clark posing as an expert military advisor on Liberal television. Don’t ever listen to advice from General Wesley Clark. He will lead you astray.
What is HuffPo talking about, aren’t there 4 Hiroshima bombs exploding every second in our atmosphere already?
I don’t think one more will make much difference really.
I thought that the “Nuclear Winter” hypothesis was debunked even before Carl Sagan kept repeating it in his “Comos” TV series in the early 1980s.
But I agree, nuclear war would be much worse than the CO2 based Anthropogenic Global Warming, which appears to be not a threat at all.
So far more plant food in the air has been a good thing, and is liable to remain so. A doubling of CO2 from 280 to 560 ppm in 250 years (AD 1850-2100), should it occur, would be more of a good thing. Any warming is liable to be zero to one degree Celsius, not the 3-5 degrees imagined in GIGO science fiction GCMs.
Nuclear war, however, would be a bad thing even without the nuclear winter ravings of the astronomical Dr. Sagan and his Commie cohorts in crime.
Even 3-5C of warming would not be altogether bad. I strongly suspect that even for that much warming, the benefits will outweigh the negatives.
It depends on how many nukes surely which would be akin to an asteroid bombardment. If the US launched all it’s 5000 at the ready arsenal and Japan Russia, United Kingdom, France, China, India, Pakistan, Israel and North Korea, I suspect South Korea, and god knows who else, all launch theirs too, the damage from that is not possible to assess. :p
There is probably in excess of 10000 serviceable powerful nuclear warheads on the planet and plenty of weapons grade material to make more.
Given the crackpots we call leaders, sociopath or psychopath, in all nations not just perceived “unstable” nations, this is just insane. Civilians do not want nukes, and apparently the government works for us, as if. 😀
Do you have any evidence that the civilians do not want nukes?
I for one would rather they not existed, but so long as nations that are hostile to us have them, we need them.
Marko the people in the other nation dont want them either. It’s the governments of both sides, do you not see that
and of course, your nukes forced the other nations to get them now you need them to feel safe from the nukes your nukes created.
Vicious circle
I favor nukes. They’re why there wasn’t a World War III but instead a Cold War.
Right now humans are living in the most peaceful time in our existence. The reason? Nuclear Arms. With out Nuclear weapons, the cold war would have been a hot war. One that would have made WWII look like childes play. Even those civilians who think they don’t want nukes, what they do want requires nukes.
Is Iran deterrable? …with its end of days, apocalyptic, 12th Imam belief and its love of death? Maybe it is deterrable. Maybe not. Critical to guess correctly here. North Korea at least wants to be around to conquer and win. We have to do deep study, soon, of the mind of the mullahs. They DID allow a bunch of their children to die in the minefields of Iraq-Iran war.
Iran has got to have enough 80% U235 for a Little Boy rifle bomb. Now. We know this because the IAEA has been telling us that Iran is six months from having a bomb for the last five years. The Deal was a hush hush agreement for delay in exploding this device until after the election, in return for which Iran could get lots of goodies. Got to be. No other explanation fits. Each side knew what the other wanted like the thirsting rich man in the desert encountering a man with a jug of water. No talking or record keeping needed.
Mark, I see you making naked assertions, and then repeating those assertions.
I’ve never seen a survey that supports your contention, nor does it reflect the reality of the areas that I have lived.
Just because you want to believe something, does not make it so.
Well the circle is more vicious now. Obama policy with Iran, is leading to a very predictable nuclear arms race in the ME.
http://pamelageller.com/2016/05/saudi-prince-turki-saudis-will-get-nukes-if-iranians-do.html/
Obviously the scenario of all 10000 nukes being launched at once is based on RCP 8.5 :p
What threat do the vast reservoirs of volatile organic compounds trapped beneath the earth’s surface represent? Is there a potential that these pockets could explosively ignite from a meteorite of sufficient size?
One way to dissipate such a threat would be siphon off these VOC’s in a controlled way over time. As humans, we could leverage the power of these compounds to create food, shelter and medicine for entire populations. We could set up a comprehensive distribution scheme such that these compounds are made available to each individual for heat, transportation, or whatever need is prescient, rather than burning them en masse. IOW, we could recognize the benevolence of modern man.
I want nukes. Heck I want more nukes. I want more powerful nukes. I want to ensure that if any 2 or 3 nations decide it is time to take out the US, we can respond by turning them into giant, radioactive, glass lined holes in the ground.
This was meant to be a reply to, Mark May 10, 2016 at 12:58 pm.
IMO we currently have enough, at least until China gets as many as the Russians.
The problem with US nukes is that they are old and many probably wouldn’t work. Russia is busy fielding brand new models and entirely new types. China is also rapidly upgrading its still small forces, to include MIRVing its new ICBMs, using technology Clinton gave them in exchange for campaign cash, with Prince Albert Gore as the bag boy.
Just a vehicle to impart to the LIV of the oh so dangerous and impending DOOM of AGW. Global Warming is such a joke.
Oddly enough–and completely obvious to any professional in the field–we will need nuclear devices on the scale of hundreds of megatons in order to effectively intercept any impending meteoroid colliders. (Not to blast them into smithereens, but to detonate at a distance and give them a push with the X-ray “slap” produced by such a weapon.) Playing around with any other method is a useless waste of time.
Nuclear weapons are a familiar threat/risk.
Their fear factor is now marginal.
Ibid the climate fear factor.
John
This old lark again? Nuclear winter is even easier to debunk than climate change. All you have to do is look at the tactics and warhead yields, and you realize there’s never enough dust thrown up to cause much of a change at all, let alone a lasting change.
If a nuclear war will lower temperature by 7 degrees and global warming will raise temperatures by 4 degrees then all we have to do is make sure that instead of an all out nuclear war we drop enough bombs to lower the temperature by 4 degrees then everyone should be happy. Global warming solved at a fraction of the cost.
I see a massive growth of coal fired power plants with greenhouses attached to their stacks .
Everybody get your Slim Whitman records ready (Mars Attacks).
Small Nuclear War Could Reverse Global Warming for Years
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/02/110223-nuclear-war-winter-global-warming-environment-science-climate-change/
Heh, maybe we should start playing the warmunists game. Somebody should write and article (propoganda) with a head line that says something along the lines of, Climate Scientists Advocate Nuclear War to Cool the Earth. It could be just as factual as the tripe the faithful put out.
Fear nukes not global warming
Amazingly HuffPost mirrors Donald Trump:
Well, nuclear winter, maybe not – but a carefully modeled climate response to a few hundred air bursts over selected carbon-polluting population centers would instantly reduce the global demand for fossil fuels, slowing catastrophic global warming in concert with aerosol cooling which would bring global warming smoothly to a standstill without the dread nuclear winter. The bombs would be loaded with aluminum foil chaff, carefully calibrated to disperse in the upper atmosphere in just the way the models predict.
Old Dr. Sagan wasn’t wrong, he just didn’t have modern climate modeling tools at his disposal. I’m sure he would now be applying for grants for peaceful uses of nukes to effect climate change stopping – er – regression – er – return to whatever went before, but will never return.
Hey, there is nothing wrong with destroying a village to save it…
Oh yea, the HuffPuff. Don’t support clickbait.
Nuclear war will not cause global cooling. How do I know this? Because dropping nukes is precisely Elon Musk’s plan for making Mars inhabitable.
If full scale nuclear war between the USA and Russia were to occur, dying of starvation 10 years from now would be WAY down on my list of worries.
Number one on our priority list should be getting a core of humanity down into some of our deep mine shafts, where nuclear reactors could provide energy, and animals could be bred…. and slaughtered, and 10 beautiful women for each man could start reproducing, I think we could get back to our current GDP within 99 years. Now, where did I put that circular slide rule….
Beauty may be in the eye of the beholder but I would rather have 10 women who can cook, sew and do manual labor. Being able to brew beer is also a good quality.
I’ve never had the slightest desire to be an infantryman in a re-run of WW2 (nor any other kind of soldier, sailor, airman or civilian). Nukes good.
Only way for regime change in a country is then by its own population. Hence the population needs to be heavily armed in case its government goes off the rails.
Also good for asteroid deflection and building real spaceships.