Guardian: Warmer, More Agreeable US Weather Undermining Climate Action

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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The Guardian is distressed that the agreeable, pleasantly mild weather caused by global warming is undermining efforts to motivate ordinary people to address Climate Change.

A large majority of Americans have enjoyed more pleasant weather due to global warming over the past 40 years, research has found, but there is set to be an unpleasant sting in the tail as temperatures escalate further this century.

Vast areas of the contiguous US have warmed considerably during winters without becoming unbearably hot during the summers, making the climate generally more agreeable to the public. A new study has found that 80% of the American population lives in areas where the weather has become more “preferable” since 1974.

According to the analysis by Duke University and New York University, 99% of Americans live in places where the average January temperature has increased, with just 60% in locations where the July temperature has risen. Rainfall and humidity changes have also, largely, changed by a favorable degree for many Americans.

This shift to more temperate conditions means that “virtually all Americans are now experiencing the much milder winters that they typically prefer, and these mild winters have not been offset by markedly more uncomfortable summers or other negative changes,” the paper found.

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The abstract of the study;

As climate change unfolds, weather systems in the United States have been shifting in patterns that vary across regions and seasons. Climate science research typically assesses these changes by examining individual weather indicators, such as temperature or precipitation, in isolation, and averaging their values across the spatial surface. As a result, little is known about population exposure to changes in weather and how people experience and evaluate these changes considered together. Here we show that in the United States from 1974 to 2013, the weather conditions experienced by the vast majority of the population improved. Using previous research on how weather affects local population growth to develop an index of people’s weather preferences, we find that 80% of Americans live in counties that are experiencing more pleasant weather than they did four decades ago. Virtually all Americans are now experiencing the much milder winters that they typically prefer, and these mild winters have not been offset by markedly more uncomfortable summers or other negative changes. Climate change models predict that this trend is temporary, however, because US summers will eventually warm more than winters. Under a scenario in which greenhouse gas emissions proceed at an unabated rate (Representative Concentration Pathway 8.5), we estimate that 88% of the US public will experience weather at the end of the century that is less preferable than weather in the recent past. Our results have implications for the public’s understanding of the climate change problem, which is shaped in part by experiences with local weather. Whereas weather patterns in recent decades have served as a poor source of motivation for Americans to demand a policy response to climate change, public concern may rise once people’s everyday experiences of climate change effects start to become less pleasant.

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Think about it – if this awful trend continues, one day parts of the Southern USA might enjoy the kind of climate you currently have to retire to the Caribbean to experience.

Let us all work together, to ensure that our children’s children are never forced to endure long idyllic Summers and mild winters.

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April 20, 2016 9:05 pm

…D’oh !

Nigel in Santa Barbara
April 20, 2016 9:16 pm

(…buys more property in Canada to will to his children…)

Reply to  Nigel in Santa Barbara
April 21, 2016 2:47 pm

*…gladly sells it to witless suckers and laughs all the way to my new beach home in Florida, where the weather is pretty much the same as it ever was…*

April 20, 2016 9:16 pm

As Global Warming unfolds, the weather is just wonderful and not apocalyptic. Even the earth is greening. Maybe Global Warming is folding up like an accordion.

Reply to  kokoda
April 21, 2016 10:11 am

If minima are increasing by (say) 2° and maxima are increasing by (say) 0.5° then overall the average temperature is increasing by ~1.2° but the overall effect is likely to be considerably different from an increase of 1.2° at both top and bottom, I would have thought.
Am I right and does it affect the likely outcome for climate in the long term?

Reply to  kokoda
April 22, 2016 9:28 am

This assumes that global warming is actually occurring, which would seem to defy the satellite record. Although, as you inferred, the planet is measurably greening from increased CO2.

April 20, 2016 9:28 pm

So its not Exxon that’s influencing the public? Its Mother Nature?

Reply to  davidmhoffer
April 20, 2016 10:57 pm

David, i think it’s the “greenies” who are influencing the public. Climate change happens way to slowly for any one to notice, feel it. (Half the population wasn’t even born in 1974!) So, i think it may just be the greenies and their power of suggestion…

Steve Fraser
April 20, 2016 9:28 pm

RCP 8.5 is the fantasy in this.

Reply to  afonzarelli
April 20, 2016 10:41 pm

Steve, as you can see in the above graph, the carbon growth rate has been tracking with temperature since the inception of the mauna loa observatory data set (with the exception being the pinatubo years here). If the past is any indication of the future, “business as usual” won’t have ANY impact on changes in the growth rate heading into the future…

Reply to  afonzarelli
April 20, 2016 11:58 pm

To analyze a correlation, Powerpoint overlaying two graphs is not statistics. In statistics, you graph one in x and the other in y to directly compare them. This shows the correlation. Mauna Loa CO2 to Hadcrut4 has a correlation coefficient of 0.6569, a fairly strong correlation if you use a second order polynomial fit that gives multiple CO2 values for a temperature value and shows the correlation stops at 380 ppm (climate stopping point). Beyond that, the correlation reverses such that temperatures start to decline. Arctic sea ice declines in a strong correlation to CO2 up to 380 ppm, but for Antarctica, sea ice slightly INCREASES with more CO2 (plotting september values for annual maxima).

Reply to  afonzarelli
April 21, 2016 7:46 am

Donald, i think your making the same mistake that i’ve seen over and over again. The carbon GROWTH RATE also stalls at about 380 ppm at about 2 ppm per year. Let me know if (and how) i’m not understanding you correctly (if that’s the case) because i really want to pin this thing down…

John in Oz
Reply to  afonzarelli
April 21, 2016 2:35 pm

How is it that you readily accept the hypothesis that CO2 controls temperature but the alternative, temperature controls CO2, is an anathema to you?
If you can prove your CO2 control knob hypothesis, many at this site would join you in convincing others. Your proof will need to be more than just two lines being coincident.

Reply to  afonzarelli
April 21, 2016 3:43 pm

John, i must be doing a really bad job at articulating my point here. This graph indicates that temps ARE controlling carbon growth. (don’t know the reason why but they are…) No mention here as to what carbon growth does to temperature (and this graph is NOT indicative of that anyway)…

Steve T
Reply to  afonzarelli
April 26, 2016 6:17 am

“John, i must be doing a really bad job at articulating my point here. This graph indicates that temps ARE controlling carbon growth.”
Carbon doesn’t grow, it’s formed inside stars. Another example of sloppy (deliberate?) use of scientific language. Referring to carbon when you mean CO2 means nothing except an intention to mislead.
The increase in human release of carbon dioxide has not been a straight line increase with over a third of all CO2 emissions having taken place in the past 20 years or so when there has been very little increase in temperature.
CO2 content in the atmosphere may well be driven by temperature (directly or indirectly) but doesn’t appear to have much in common with human emissions. There appears to be so much natural variance that we cannot explain.

Reply to  Steve Fraser
April 21, 2016 5:05 am

No, it’s not.
CAGW is the fantasy in this.

Tom Halla
April 20, 2016 9:31 pm

We din not really have winter this year, and I didn’t miss it at all.

Reply to  Tom Halla
April 21, 2016 4:55 am

In southern Ontario our last two winters were cold and snowy. The last two summers were on the lukewarm side as well. One mild winter is just variety. I am hoping for a warm summer for a change. We will see what La Nina brings.

Reply to  DavidSmith
April 21, 2016 10:53 am

And we enjoyed the respite from cold and snowy, right, David? 🙂

Reply to  Tom Halla
April 21, 2016 11:07 am

I live in Northern Arkansas and I’d say we had a mild winter, but we had a lot of chilly days without any of our normal magical warm days mixed in. We didn’t get many hard freezes. Last winter was cold with a lot of hard freezes. And our summers are not getting any hotter, in fact quite a few of the past summers have been mild. I guess as the climate gets warmer, the weather becomes more pleasant. Cool!

Reply to  Tom Halla
April 21, 2016 5:48 pm

same (maine) for last 2 winters (including this last one) however the non winter seasons were cooler and rainier so (locally) overall was cooler.

John Harmsworth
April 20, 2016 9:43 pm

I was in Ecuador last year and didn’t hear anyone complaining of intolerable heat. Back in Canada now and had a very mild winter. What are we trying to fix exactly? Where are the problems?

Reply to  John Harmsworth
April 21, 2016 5:10 am

+ a million

Reply to  John Harmsworth
April 21, 2016 5:13 am

That’s the key question. As warming is concentrated at the poles and mildest at the equator, it is overall a positive thing. This is why there is so much wild speculation about the effects, as the simplest interpretation is that mild global warming would be a good thing.

Reply to  John Harmsworth
April 21, 2016 2:49 pm

A not quite as fatally frigid Arctic wasteland is a disaster!
How many times must you be told?

April 20, 2016 9:54 pm

was 5 F when I tried to go skiing at Lutsen. with 15 mph winds. More coal please!

Resources Wire | Jay Currie
April 20, 2016 9:54 pm

Summer here on the West Coast. Office moved to the deck. Idiot son is suggesting this proves GW…I suggested it might just be weather. Lovely, warm, El Nino influenced weather. But he’s in college so what can you do?

Retired Engineer Jim
Reply to  Resources Wire | Jay Currie
April 20, 2016 9:59 pm

Stop paying for it and tell him to get a job?

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Retired Engineer Jim
April 21, 2016 5:11 am

Why do engineers only offer practical advice? This is all about emotion and fantasy. About that, we have to be more practical.

Retired Engineer Jim
Reply to  Retired Engineer Jim
April 21, 2016 10:37 am

Thank you, Crispin. What is it like living in a railway station?

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Retired Engineer Jim
April 21, 2016 1:07 pm

Actually I seem to live in airports, presently of the Toronto ilk. Now that Waterloo has international flights we might be able to re-cast the reputation of Waterloo in the garb on a new century. That will save me a hundred Canuk Bucks (50 Toonies) each way. I will settle for Waterloo-Beijing.
As for engineers, Waterloo deserves its well-earned reputation for being the best. I think China would willing fill up the whole student roster. Sorta humorous that I am headed the other way!

Reply to  Resources Wire | Jay Currie
April 20, 2016 10:13 pm

Yes, jay, the sad thing, as Dr Spencer has oft pointed out, is that much of our climate change here in the good ol’ U.S. of A. has been due to a shift in the pdo which (again he says) is shifting back so that we will be seeing weather patterns similar to those in the sixties and seventies…

Reply to  afonzarelli
April 20, 2016 11:04 pm

I think Dr. Spencer overweights PDO and underweights AMO and multi-year-smoothed ENSO, which I suspect is loosely linked to AMO. However, I expect the pause/slowdown of global warming to continue to around 2030, maybe into the 2030s.
Even so, I expect increased CO2 and high regional positive surface albedo feedback in arctic/subarctic areas to decrease the temperature gradient between the warming Arctic and the more-temperature-regulated tropics, which means American weather and weather elsewhere in the “north temperate zone” mostly getting milder as a result of global warming. Summers get longer more than more badly hot, and extreme high summer temperatures in these areas mostly seem to not be getting worse at all. (Even though I expect the improvement to have a slowdown continuing to around 2030.) Consider what the alltime record highs of each of USA’s states are, and when they were set.
Also, northern hemisphere extratropical windstorms in general (including hurricane hybrids, Nor’Easters and tornadoes of every class F2/EF2 and higher) have been getting less bad since 1950.

Reply to  afonzarelli
April 21, 2016 4:44 am

afonzarelli, the PDO Index is far from negative:comment image
The PDO may turn negative in response to the upcoming La Nina…because the PDO is, in part, an aftereffect of ENSO. See Chapter 3.5 – Ocean Mode: Pacific Decadal Oscillation of On Global Warming and the Illusion of Control – Part 1:

Reply to  afonzarelli
April 21, 2016 4:45 am

Oops, typo in the title block.

Reply to  afonzarelli
April 21, 2016 8:15 am

Donald, we’ll see… my take on what dr spencer is getting at is that he thinks 60s/70s weather will return for the u.s. even as the global temps continue to stay high. He does think that the change in our weather (since the 70s) has been largely due to the shift in the pdo.
Bob, thank you for the graph and the link. The spike over the last couple years looks quite unusual. Any thoughts as to why this hasn’t been replicated before?

Reply to  Resources Wire | Jay Currie
April 20, 2016 11:07 pm

Cut his allowance?

Reply to  Resources Wire | Jay Currie
April 21, 2016 10:35 am

…what can you do?
If they respect you (even a little), its never too late to hit ’em with a stick or something.

April 20, 2016 10:00 pm

well, flipside, my indian blood peach just died from a mid spring 23 F.

Boulder Skeptic
April 20, 2016 10:07 pm

More BS, IMHO. People are not as stupid in general as believed by politicians, acedemics and (apparently) warmist climate scientists. I suspect other factors at play, which dominate over the weather. For instance…
Many technically inclined folks (especially those regularly frequenting WUWT) understand measurement errors, incorrectly applied statistics, data manipulations/adjustments, model uncertainty, model errors/omissions, natural climate influences, etc., and thus are unmoved by calls by warmists of the impending apocalypse.
Many politically inclined folks can see the completely transparent bias by politicians (reaching for peoples’ wallets) and pseudo-scientists (rent-seeking) spewing things that are clearly wrong or implausible, and thus are unmoved by these warmunist politicians and acolytes of the CAGW-religion (who they know are lying because their mouths are moving).
Many regular Joes and Janes have seen the “boy who cried wolf” played out so many times now (children won’t know what snow is, species are going extinct, islands are being inundated, arctic ice will be gone by 2013, tropical storm Sandy was proof of global warming, etc.) that they are figuring out CAGW feels like a scam. So many predictions and projections that have been proven false already…
Some folks are seeing a host of benefits we’re getting along side the mostly natural, very slow warming (crop yields increasing, greening of the planet, etc).
And, I’m sure there are other factors, which influence other groups of folks to investigate what’s really happening or to be similarly unmotivated to give up their liberty and hard earned cash.
Just think how much success the CAGW crowd would be having without the internet and with information power still in the firm grip of the left-leaning media. It might be more like the DDT scare, the ozone hole scare, the cholesterol scare, the table salt scare, etc., where we all just fall into line without alternative information sources (all these were vastly overblown, I believe). With this internet thingy, we actually might have a shot to kill this craziness about us knowing what the big climate control knob is.
It’s probably time to give thanks to our WUWT host again.

Reply to  Boulder Skeptic
April 21, 2016 6:36 am

I second that motion.

Leon Brozyna
April 20, 2016 10:08 pm

They’re still trying to figure out why they can’t get the people to buy what they’re selling …
It went from global warming to
climate change to
climate chaos to
climate disruption to
extreme weather
and still the people wouldn’t buy.
Now, they’re grasping at straws to figure it out and so, come up with … the weather’s been nice.
Hint: The American people have an excellent sense of smell and can smell the odor of the product and they ain’t buying anything that smells like that.
So if it gets a bit warm, the solution’s obvious … take off some clothes and work at a slower pace … problem solved.
And in the winter we won’t have to bundle up as much and will only have to do it for a shorter time. What’s not to like?
Academics … where are their heads?

Reply to  Leon Brozyna
April 20, 2016 11:10 pm

Lodged firmly in their fundaments working on the next grant application ?

Reply to  Leon Brozyna
April 20, 2016 11:21 pm

So if it gets a bit warm, the solution’s obvious
turn down the furnace.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Leon Brozyna
April 21, 2016 12:57 pm

Don’t forget the gullible and uniformed like the Canuk PM who, we are assured on CP24, will sign the Paris agreement tomorrow. Well, he can sign on his own behalf. Just leave out me and more than 90% of people I know in Waterloo who think it is a scam with baseless alarmism founded on fraudulent claims.
With a PM who will say/sign anything, literally, to ingratiate himself with some loud portion of ‘the people’ we seem doomed to duplicate the folly of Spain and the UK.
Is he really trying to make Canada colder? That’s his contribution to the well-being of Canadians?
If you think fraud is not detectable and if it is, remains unpardonable, check out the judgment of the Duffy trial. OMG the secret handshake society is no better than the greens.

April 20, 2016 10:17 pm

We had a couple of “record” breaking temps here in BC in the Interior, the records being broken were in the range of 0.1 to 0.3 degrees. At the station we have it was actually 4C below the “record” temps and as usual the record breaking temps were in the downtown area and along the runway at the local airport

Reply to  asybot
April 20, 2016 10:24 pm

Some reports I have seen said it hasn’t been this hot (on this day) since 1917. In other words, it was just as hot on this day 99 years ago.
Weirdly, my weather app says it is going to be -3C (27F) tonight. So it is supposed to drop from 19 C currently and in 4 hours be -3C ? Something is fouled up with the data for the app obviously.

Reply to  garymount
April 21, 2016 12:11 am

Has anyone got the actual graph of US temp? Here’s the UK one for my entire lifetime:comment image?w=645&h=389

April 20, 2016 10:19 pm

I’ve lived in Phoenix, Az since 1995 and I can tell you there is no real trend one way or the other for summer climate. Some years we get monsoons and rain. Some years not. Some years it’s hot early; some years it’s hot later (Sept / Oct). Some years it’s hotter and every summer it’s hot. No trend at all. I measure it myself. No trend. Huge UHI. 5 to 7 degrees. I pack the dogs in the car and we drive out to the Indian reservations from south Tempe and back right around sunset. I love it here. Summer is just fine with me.

Reply to  gregole
April 21, 2016 3:49 am

Summertime – Southern style:

Reply to  gregole
April 21, 2016 4:13 am

Please allow me to extend our musical interlude, while illustrating how we got where we are.

Reply to  gregole
April 21, 2016 5:23 am

My family has lived in Arizona since it was a territory. We are going into another cold cycle. It snows in Tucson during cold cycles. I grew up there during the previous cold cycle. We had school closings due to snow storms.
It did rain a good deal! The desert was gorgeous. But by 1970, I had to find old fur coats second hand to turn into blankets because it was very cold at night and the little houses built before WWI were very cold indeed with no central heating and this is how we survived the cold weather there.
Then I moved to NYC in 1974 and had to deal with several years of severe blizzards and extreme cold and this was horrible to experience when one grows up in a desert!

Reply to  emsnews
April 21, 2016 5:46 am

And then there are people like me who move to New England partly for our “interesting” weather.
My all-time favorite weather event was the Blizzard of 1978, back when extreme weather was more common. 🙂

Reply to  emsnews
April 21, 2016 2:53 pm

When the weather all over the globe turns decidedly colder, as I suspect it soon will…I am going to laugh so long and hard that by the time I am finished I will have to start right in on the crying for the real disaster that will be unfolding.

April 20, 2016 11:06 pm

“A study shows 60%” why not just say 50%?
This reminds me of the “500 year storm” that just hit Texas, apparently it were recorded on a leather pelt somewhere.

Reply to  KLohrn
April 21, 2016 5:27 am

It will become a 749.37 year storm, after “adjustment”.

April 20, 2016 11:13 pm

The awful truth is now hitting the Grauniad that the Climate Change that it feared so much might turn out to be a Climate change for the Better. Less dangerous cold weather, less heating bills, more rain and improved crop production all down to the dreaded CO2.
Perhaps it is time for the Alarmists to come up with yet another new name for the ‘threat’. They have gone through ‘global warming’, ‘climate change’, ‘climate chaos’, ‘climate disruption’ and ‘extreme weather’, but I am sure that the Media Department will be able to come up with something suitably scary.

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
April 21, 2016 10:50 am

“Climate morphing”. It could be scary, and it can mean lots of different things; it can also be used as a verb and be applied to what hanson etal have done to the data. One term … lots of differing uses … makes the politicians (and other dishonest people) happy.

Reply to  DonM
April 21, 2016 7:04 pm

Climate head-fake is here . .

April 20, 2016 11:16 pm

Damn! Climate is changing for the better. That’s not good for the narrative “Climate change is worse than ISIS”. Mild winters and cool summers are a tad less horrific than getting your neck sawn with a blunt knife.

Reply to  Richard
April 21, 2016 3:22 am

But you’re supposed to signal your concern by being worried about Earth’s environmental state in a hundred years time, not the near-term (despite energy poverty, fewer violent storms and overall nicer weather happening now). How do you expect to be seen as a caring, concerned, longsighted individual, comrade?

April 20, 2016 11:17 pm

virtually all Americans are now experiencing the much milder winters that they typically prefer
but Gavin assures us that any change in temperature is BAD because our infrastructure is so finely tuned to local conditions. Warmer winters would be a disaster because people wouldn’t be able to turn down their furnaces in time and there would be run away winter meltdown.

April 20, 2016 11:36 pm

I’ve noticed they don’t like to mention cold. America – or Europe – could be under a mile of ice and they’d insist it’s a mild Winter. They will say anything rather than admit they are wrong. Smells like desperation to me. Oh, and blame the people for not jumping to as they are supposed to do. Of course.
(I still like Boaty McBoatface. This whole CAGW has a Boaty McBoatface feel to it. I can’t help it, I now think of the current incarnation of climate science as “Boaty McBoatface science”. It just IS. Okay, so do I apologize for this now or later?)

Reply to  A.D. Everard
April 21, 2016 10:56 am

And it (boaty) really seems to mesh well with “the science guy” feel/approach to the climate science studies.

Coeur de Lion
April 21, 2016 12:32 am

I love Valentia ( remote SW Ireland) for its flat temp record for over 100 years. Until homogenised with Paris UHI

Reply to  Coeur de Lion
April 21, 2016 7:43 am

I love Valentia too. When we were there, we climbed the hill to the watchtower and watched the transatlantic flights to the continent pass over the island. The most notable thing, to me, about that part of Ireland–heck, all of Ireland–was how fast the weather changed from sunny and warm to cool and drizzly and back again. Multiple times in a few hours.

Steve Case
April 21, 2016 1:49 am

Temperature isn’t what’s being used to scare people. Sea level is. I do a daily news search on “sea level,” here’s a recent example of what’s out there in a steady drone:
Study on sea level rise assesses potential impacts on Queen Anne’s
“…sea level rise of 2 feet by 2050; a sea level rise of 4 feet by 2100…”
That comes to 18 mm/yr and 14.5 mm/yr respectively. The current reported rate is 3 mm/yr and there’s no evidence of any acceleration in the rate that will reach those numbers. It’s as if the predictions are being made out of whole cloth.

Reply to  Steve Case
April 21, 2016 2:56 pm

“as if”?
No as ifs about it…they have now moved on to pure lies.

April 21, 2016 1:52 am

One mild El Nino winter and the US is back in the Cretaceous?? How soon everyone forgets the record cold and snowmageddons of but a couple of years ago. Wonder how long it will be before a rogue western nation actually elects a leader who isn’t congenitally mentally ill, breaks ranks and just says shut up, we’re going fracking.

Reply to  cephus0
April 21, 2016 9:32 am

100 percent correct. Two out of the last three winters were severe over USA!

April 21, 2016 2:37 am

Just one year past, we were just getting over one of the coldest, snowiest winters we have had in many years. We were constantly bombarded with the notion that “Global Warming causes cooling”. We were treated to the notion that Global Warming was causing the “Arctic Vortex”, and “Polar Amplification” was causing lower latitudes to be much colder. And on and on.
Remember how much fun all of us here at WUWT had mocking and ridiculing all of this?
Now Global Warming is back to causing warming. *sigh*

Reply to  TonyL
April 21, 2016 6:03 am

Where’s the fun in that?

Reply to  TonyL
April 21, 2016 2:57 pm

This has been going on for years and years now.
“The theory that explains everything explains nothing” was already a phrase well worn as of ten years ago.

Russell Klier
April 21, 2016 3:59 am

The reason global warming fanatics are doomed to fail…. earthlings prosper in a warmer climate…..

Bruce Cobb
April 21, 2016 4:20 am

Ba-hahahahaha! It is Ma Nature’s fault that we don’t Believe! That, plus we’re dunderheads to not “see” what they “see” coming – climate catastrophe. All we need do is look at their models, after all. You know, the ones that have been accurate so far. Oh wait.

FJ Shepherd
April 21, 2016 4:32 am

If weather has improved so much in the last 40 years, tell me why more and more Canadian snowbirds are travelling south every winter to escape the cold? There are now about one million snowbirds from Canada heading for Florida, Arizona, Texas, California, and Mexico when we enter into the colder months, and this happens every year and the numbers are increasing.

Reply to  FJ Shepherd
April 21, 2016 4:48 am

Baby boomers retiring – just more people, with more time and more wealth that allow them to join the hordes of the climate refugees.

Reply to  FJ Shepherd
April 21, 2016 4:52 am

I too must admit that I have become a snowbird…though not from Canada. But I miss shoveling snow when I’m in the south…like I miss frostbite.

Reply to  FJ Shepherd
April 21, 2016 6:41 am

Indeed a whole new airport has just opened down here at Rio Hato, in the middle of nowhere on the coast. No scheduled commercial flights, only charters from Canada. An entire synthetic civilization of shopping malls and condos is springing up to soak up their discretionary income, until recently financed almost entirely by Russians.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Markopanama
April 21, 2016 1:19 pm

Rio Hato is in Panama, for the non-Canuks…

Reply to  FJ Shepherd
April 21, 2016 2:59 pm

” There are now about one million snowbirds from Canada heading for Florida…”
Tell me about it…the traffic here in Fort Myers in Winter gets worse by the year.

chris moffatt
April 21, 2016 4:58 am

As any fule here in central Virginia kno, in the last forty years winters have remained pretty much the same, except for strong el Nino years, while summers have become noticeably cooler. In recent years we have had many fewer 100+ degree days in summer. Hottest average summer temperatures were all recorded in the 1930s. If there’s warming going on it ain’t going on here.

Reply to  chris moffatt
April 21, 2016 9:37 am

100 percent correct. I live in NYC and there was a time we would have 10 day 90 plus degrees heat waves. Now if we get two or three straight hot days the media blows it up into a major calamity!! There were many summers back in the 70’s 80’s and 1990’s of 25 days above 90. Since 2000, NYC typically average 7 to 12 days above 90.What happened

Tom Judd
April 21, 2016 5:09 am

Wait a minute! Isn’t CAGW supposed to be increasing heat related death rates and all sorts of allergy and lung problems; not to mention fungal toes and reduced libido due to sweaty women? How could we find this unbearable weather more pleasant?

April 21, 2016 5:22 am

Hey it’s been warmer in the Winter but not in the Summer–but wait, that’s Global Warming…um…we mean Climate Chaos….no wait, it’s Climate Change! Yes that’s it, Climate Change…something we need to control. Well “we predicted” that is the crucial tipping point and it’s all downhill from here. So enjoy your mild temps but keep filling those sandbags because the ocean is gunning to take over your cities…….um…..someday. /sarcasm
Seriously. I read the report on Reuters too. Enjoy the milder temps–while you can. What a crock of absolute horse apples. You know I used to think farmers were the pessimists. Too much rain, too much sun, not enough rain, not enough sun but these Apocalyptic Sky Falling Idiots are so much worse.
Of course when the pause continues they’ll be the first to exclaim that is what they predicted and the climate apocalypse was averted because of their due diligence. Remember these people believe correlation is causation and so will justify just about anything other than admit they are selling snake oil.
I said it in the 80’s when this crap popped up in the news and I’ll say it nearly 30 years later–these people need to be run out on a rail.

FJ Shepherd
April 21, 2016 5:27 am

Do we know of any civilizations throughout human history that collapsed because climate became too warm?

Reply to  FJ Shepherd
April 21, 2016 5:40 am

They know this information. All warm ages corresponded with great civilizations and all of these collapsed when it got much colder and barbarians from the north invade to escape the cold.

Reply to  emsnews
April 21, 2016 5:41 am

And I speak as someone who descended from the Norse. Whooboy. We packed the bags and went southwards,

Reply to  FJ Shepherd
April 21, 2016 5:55 am

I’m not sure about too warm, but certainly too dry. People seem to really, really need water. Liquid water, at that. The US southwest and Mexico lost several communities due to persistent drought. Mayan, Anasazi, etc.
Others are described at all done in by lack of liquid water.

Reply to  Ric Werme
April 21, 2016 6:27 am

Interesting brief overview of past civilizations–I’d classify that as limited at best especially the Indus Valley (which I’m researching right now).
But “all done in by a lack of liquid water” doesn’t exactly cover all the aspects of those lost civilizations. Nor does, CLIMATE CHANGE (cue Jaws music)….as with any society or civilization there are many, many factors that led to its demise. Otherwise the cooling after the peak of the Roman period could be ‘blamed’ for it’s demise–yet we know from existing records there were many factors.
It’s no big secret humans build societies around water, nor is it any secret that extended drought moves people to abandon such societies. But there are always mitigating factors in each case and to lump them all under CLIMATE CHANGE is I think disingenuous to the people that formed and eventually abandoned those civilizations. What we can do though is learn as much about them to understand how to not repeat their mistakes but putting them under the umbrella of the dreaded climate does not further knowledge and IMO seeks to stop inquiry into why those civilizations failed.

Reply to  Ric Werme
April 21, 2016 11:12 am

Wondering about the peak Mayan civilization … no hurricane warning system … four class lV’s in a period of 3 years and a follow up class “8” wouldn’t really leave a record(?) but would most likely have blown their shutters and doors so far away that they may not have recovered.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  FJ Shepherd
April 21, 2016 1:25 pm

The civilisation that thrive in the Central Sahara did so when it was generally warmer, at which time the Sahara was generally cooler and far wetter. The general cooling dried up the rain with the result that the Sahara became an uninhabitable hell of heat and aridity.
Similarly the Nordic settlements in what is now Western China dies of heat and exhaustion during the same global cooling that followed the Minoan thermal optimum.

April 21, 2016 5:52 am

From the article:
“As climate change unfolds, weather systems in the United States have been shifting in patterns that vary across regions and seasons.”
I’ve been around a long time, and I don’t see any shifts in weather patterns. The weather is pretty much “business as usual” from my location and viewpoint.
Nothing that is occuring concerning the weather is out of the ordinary.

April 21, 2016 6:01 am

From the article:
“Using previous research on how weather affects local population growth to develop an index of people’s weather preferences, we find that 80% of Americans live in counties that are experiencing more pleasant weather than they did four decades ago.”
Well, that would be because the U.S. has been in a “long-term” cooling trend since the 1930’s. It was less extreme in the 1940’s, than in the 1930’s, and it was less extreme in the 1950’s compared to the 1940’s, and so on. Yes, there is a pattern here. The pattern does NOT point to human-caused global warming/climate change. Just the opposite.
If you lived in the 1950’s, and I did, then you know the weather was more extreme and hotter then than it is today, so today would definitely be more pleasant than the 1950’s, which means not “global warming” but “global cooling” is the driving force today.
It’s more pleasant today because the Earth is cooler today.

Reply to  TA
April 21, 2016 7:33 am

Yes. The summers from the mid-50’s to late 60s were nasty in the mid-Appalachians — generally hotter and drier than even the 30s. I remember it well…..

April 21, 2016 6:19 am

From the article:
“Under a scenario in which greenhouse gas emissions proceed at an unabated rate (Representative Concentration Pathway 8.5), we estimate that 88% of the US public will experience weather at the end of the century that is less preferable than weather in the recent past.”
That’s not very definitive, is it.
How much less preferable? How much will that unabated CO2 raise the temperature of the Earth’s atmosphere? BTW, you should not rely on the IPCC for your data and numbers. They are *way* off.

April 21, 2016 6:25 am

From the article:
“Whereas weather patterns in recent decades have served as a poor source of motivation for Americans to demand a policy response to climate change,”
The reason Americans are not motivated to worry about climate change is because they don’t see the climate changing. If the climate really were getting extreme, people would be concerned, but it is not.
And I think the Alarmist community has “cried wolf” too many times about dangerous climate change which causes people to tune you out. All these Alarmist claims of past and approaching climate catastrophe, and people look around and say “what are they talking about?”.

April 21, 2016 6:26 am

The people on the East Coast didn’t look so cheery with the last two March and April winter storms, nor did Denver. All those cancelled flights, etc. Can’t say I understand why that’s warmer and happier, but I’m just an ordinary person, not an important news writer. Sigh.

Reply to  Reality check
April 21, 2016 10:14 am

“not an ignorant news writer who thinks he’s important”.
There, fixed it for you.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Reality check
April 21, 2016 1:27 pm

Major snow in Newfoundland. When will Spring arrive in the Atlantic provinces?

April 21, 2016 6:42 am

There is a story about the underlying paper in the L.A. Times, which points out that the two “researchers” who wrote “Recent improvement and projected worsening of weather in the United States” are a political scientist from NYU and a “professor of environmental politics” at Duke. Further comment hardly seems necessary.

Phil R
Reply to  Crustacean
April 21, 2016 9:13 am

I made a comment below before I saw yours, but these are the two “researchers.”
Patrick J. Egan
Associate Professor of Politics and Public Policy
• Areas of Research/Interest: Public opinion and institutions in American politics; the formation of political attitudes; LGBT issues and politics
Megan Mullin
Associate Professor of Environmental Politics
Primary Appointment
Environmental Science & Policy Division
Seems to confirm your story about the L.A. Times article.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Phil R
April 21, 2016 1:32 pm

Makes me wonder if climate science is a ‘hard science’. It may turn out to be an ‘impossible science’. That will lead to a whole set of new faculties. Soft sciences where they discuss everything from the observed to the improbable, hard sciences where they discuss what is, and impossible sciences, where they discuss, dissect and advocate the impossible.

Richard M
April 21, 2016 6:49 am

This change follows what some have been saying about the real effects of increased CO2. We get warmer nights and winters and cooler days and summers. That reduces extremes. Overall, the effect is small and will not lead to any major SLR. There is no problem to fix.

Steve Fraser
Reply to  Richard M
April 21, 2016 6:59 am

Hmm, Imwonder what this says about the effect of the water vapor change…

Richard M
Reply to  Steve Fraser
April 21, 2016 8:50 am

Simply put the effect is negative during the day/summer (convection/clouds) and positive during the night/winter. The fact climate science tries to treat it as a constant says a lot about the science.

April 21, 2016 6:52 am

Me, I shall not ‘rest’ until all Glaciers are advancing! This should probably give me at least a few thousand more years to live. While the rest of youse hedonists foolishly long to expend your brief time here on Earth in the midst of Palm Trees, surrounded by Mariachi Boys and Girls Gone Wild!

Bruce Cobb
April 21, 2016 7:12 am

“Policymakers cannot rely upon Americans’ experiences with the weather to catalyze change,” Egan said. “They will have to look elsewhere to convince them that this a major problem.”

Oh noes, back to the drawing board, I guess. How about we do a better job with “communicating” climate change.
Yes, “Climate Communication”; that’s the ticket.

CD in Wisconsin
April 21, 2016 7:36 am

“…..This shift to more temperate conditions means that “virtually all Americans are now experiencing the much milder winters that they typically prefer,…..”
Virtually all? Really? Who says? Here in Wisconsin, the only ones who might complain about milder winters would be the snowmobilers and skiiers as far as I’m concerned. While a mild winter here would certainly not be good for the ski resorts, they do have sknow making machines don’t they?
No relief for my winter heating bill year on year is NOT something I would “prefer” contrary to the Guardian’s bleatings. If they think otherwise, I invite them to sit outside on a January night when one of those polar vortices goes through here and the wind chill is -20 deg F. Those dim bulbs at the Guardian appear to have forgotten that we humans are warm-blooded creatures.
I have been thinking of spending my winters in Florida, and the idea keeps growing on me with every Wisconsin winter I go through. I can see starting to do it every winter in the not to distant future. The Guardian nitwits need to have their heads examined.

Steve Fraser
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
April 21, 2016 10:06 am

I bet the Siberian

Steve Fraser
Reply to  Steve Fraser
April 21, 2016 10:07 am

… Russians like the extra warmth, if they are in fact getting it.

Ed Bo
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
April 21, 2016 8:18 pm

CD – I think you’re misreading what the Guardian is saying (it is poorly worded). They are claiming that Americans do prefer warmer winters, but they would not prefer hotter summers.

Tom in Texas
April 21, 2016 7:52 am

Just a simple direction for the those to head for the simple life. I have watched weather all my life and have seen patterns and variations of the patterns. all I see is controlled chaos. Dust bowl was an event the lasted 7-11 years. I you look at the parameters starting in 2006 you will see a very similar event. Here in the Houston Galveston area there are multiple variations of patterns. Every 4-7 years we get a cooler than normal winter. Every 7-12 years we get a very cold winter. My oldest sister always said the when see passed it was going to snow Christmas day no matter who complained. Passed in November, Snowed in Houston area that December 25th. So even she can get the weather pattern to change. Patterns of chaos.

Russell Klier
April 21, 2016 7:56 am

We change with the times and adapt to the new reality……. As one latitude becomes less desirable for certain crops another one becomes more desirable…Farmers, like green plants adapt and change….When the climate makes one crop less profitable in an area, the farmer changes….We are not stagnant creatures….The Romans grew grapes and made wine when they ruled Britain…because the climate would allow it then……

April 21, 2016 8:03 am

40 years of facts and evidence be damned…

April 21, 2016 8:06 am

What if the next change to more disagreeable weather is to a cold phase?

April 21, 2016 8:26 am

Ah, we’re back to “warmer winters” again? I wondered how long we’d hear hysteria about the “polar vortex” and the counter-intuitive cries that “global warming causes colder winters”. Don’t newspapers ever look at their own back issues?

April 21, 2016 8:57 am

Warmists are always distressed whenever their dire Climate Change predictions prove false because that makes it far more difficult to con people into surrendering their rights to central planners.

Reply to  LarryFine
April 21, 2016 11:05 am

Yes, it’s very inconvenient for message management.

Phil R
April 21, 2016 9:09 am

Patrick J. Egan
Associate Professor of Politics and Public Policy
• Areas of Research/Interest: Public opinion and institutions in American politics; the formation of political attitudes; LGBT issues and politics
Megan Mullin
Associate Professor of Environmental Politics
Primary Appointment
Environmental Science & Policy Division
Yep, just as I thought. A couple of highly experienced “climate science” heavyweights! And who says that the coming “climate change” catastrophe is only about politics!

April 21, 2016 9:19 am

Headline should read: Imperceptible Temperature Increase Assuages Urge to Mitigate Same

April 21, 2016 9:42 am

One of these days CO2 is going to do something bad.
We swear.

April 21, 2016 10:40 am

This just in!!! Comfortably preferable weather will kill your children and your children’s children, or worse, more at 11!

Stas peterson
April 21, 2016 10:47 am

All this blather is way overdone.
If the temperature warms to the limits the climate hoaxsters predict it would be equal to moving about 75-80 miles South. A Bostonian would have the temperature of Providence Rhode Island; and a New Yorker would have the temperature of Trenton NJ.
Alternatively it would be less than the change in temperature from11:00 AM till 12:0 PM (Noon).
Obviously this would be so “dangerous” that that millions would supposedly die.
What bilge. What utter bilge!

Reply to  Stas peterson
April 21, 2016 3:26 pm

What, more wearisome blather about how wearisome all the blather is?

April 21, 2016 3:19 pm

Caution. …Totally agreeable weather will make you children happy and content !! Dire consequences to follow…someday !

April 21, 2016 3:29 pm

I wish every winter will be like this past winter. Power bill was a bit over $100 for January sure does beat the $400 power bill I got a couple of winters ago. I wonder how much money American consumers saved on their power bills this winter.

Gunga Din
April 21, 2016 3:43 pm

So….they want me to be alarmed that I’m not alarmed? That’s alarming!
Sheesh! What’s wrong with these people?

Ed Bo
April 21, 2016 8:25 pm

What’s most amusing about this article is that what the Guardian says has been happening — much more warming in winter than summer — is exactly what mainstream climate theory has always predicted.
There is much less water vapor in the air in winter than summer, so an additional increment of CO2, with its partial spectral absorption overlap with H2O, would have a greater effect then.
Of course, the Guardian staff does not know enough even to understand the potential issue.

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