By Larry Kummer. From the Fabius Maximus website.
Summary: This is the last of my series about ways to resolve the public policy debate about climate change. It puts my proposal to test the models in a wider context of science norms and the climate science literature. My experience shows that neither side of the climate wars has much interest in a fair test; both sides want to win through politics. Resolving the climate policy wars through science will require action by us, the American public.
Ending the climate policy debate the right way
Do you trust the predictions of climate models? That is, do they provide an adequate basis on which to make major public policy decisions about issues with massive social, economic and environmental effects? In response to my posts on several high-profile websites, I’ve had discussions about this with hundreds of people. Some say “yes”; some say “no”. The responses are alike in that both sides have sublime confidence in their answers; the discussions are alike in they quickly become a cacophony.
The natural result: while a slim majority of the public says they “worry” about climate change — they consistently rank it near or at the bottom of their policy concerns. Accordingly, the US public policy machinery has gridlocked on this issue.
Yet the issue continues to burn, absorbing policy makers’ attention and scarce public funds. Worst of all, the paralysis prevents efforts to prepare even for the almost certain repeat of past climate events — as Tropical Storm Sandy showed NYC and several studies have shown for Houston — and distracts attention from other serious environmental problems (e.g., destruction of ocean ecosystems).
How can we resolve this policy deadlock? Eventually, either the weather or science will answer our questions, albeit perhaps at great cost. We could just vote, abandoning the pretense there is any rational basis for US public policy (fyi, neither Kansas nor Alabama voted that Pi = 3).
We can do better. The government can focus the institutions of science on questions of public policy importance. We didn’t wait for the normal course of research to produce an atomic bomb or send men to the moon. We’re paying for it, so the government can set standards for research, as is routinely done for the military and health care industries (e.g., FDA drug approval regulations).
The policy debate turns on the reliability of the predictions of climate models. These can be tested to give “good enough” answers for policy decision-makers so that they can either proceed or require more research. I proposed one way to do this in Climate scientists can restart the climate change debate & win: test the models! — with includes a long list of cites (with links) to the literature about this topic. This post shows that such a test is in accord with both the norms of science and the work of climate scientists.
We can resolve this policy debate. So far America lacks only the will to do so. That will have to come from us, the American public.
The goal: providing a sound basis for public policy
“Thus an extraordinary claim requires “extraordinary” (meaning stronger than usual) proof.”
— By Marcello Truzzi in “Zetetic Ruminations on Skepticism and Anomalies in Science“, Zetetic Scholar, August 1987. See the full text here.
“For such a model there is no need to ask the question ‘Is the model true?’. If ‘truth’ is to be the ‘whole truth’ the answer must be ‘No’. The only question of interest is ‘Is the model illuminating and useful?’”
— G.E.P. Box in “Robustness in the strategy of scientific model building” (1978). He also said “All models are wrong; some are useful.”
Measures to fix climate change range from massive (e.g., carbon taxes and new regulations) to changing the nature of our economic system (as urged by Pope Francis and Naomi Klein
). Such actions requires stronger proof than usual in science (academic disputes are so vicious because the stakes are so small). On the other hand, politics is not geometry; it’s “the art of the possible” (Bismarck, 1867). Perfect proof is not needed. The norms of science can guide us in constructing useful tests.
Successful predictions: the gold standard for validating theories
“Probably {scientists’} most deeply held values concern predictions: they should be accurate; quantitative predictions are preferable to qualitative ones; whatever the margin of permissible error, it should be consistently satisfied in a given field; and so on.”
— Thomas Kuhn in The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
(1962).
“Confirmations should count only if they are the result of risky predictions; that is to say, if, unenlightened by the theory in question, we should have expected an event which was incompatible with the theory — an event which would have refuted the theory.”
— Karl Popper in Conjectures and Refutations: The Growth of Scientific Knowledge
(1963).
“The ultimate goal of a positive science is the development of a “theory” or, “hypothesis” that yields valid and meaningful (i.e., not truistic) predictions about phenomena not yet observed. … the only relevant test of the validity of a hypothesis is comparison of its predictions with experience.”
— Milton Friedman in “The Methodology of Positive Economics“ from Essays in Positive Economics
(1966).
“Some annoying propositions: Complex econometrics never convinces anyone. … Natural experiments rule. But so do surprising predictions that come true.”
— Paul Krugman in “What have we learned since 2008“ (2016). True as well for climate science.
The policy debate rightly turns on the reliability of climate models. Models produce projections of global temperatures when run with estimates of future conditions (e.g., aerosols and greenhouse gases). When run with observations they produce predictions which can be compared with actual temperatures to determine the model’s skill. These tests are hindcasting, comparing models’ predictions with past temperatures. That’s a problem.
“One of the main problems faced by predictions of long-term climate change is that they are difficult to evaluate. … Trying to use present predictions of past climate change across historical periods as a verification tool is open to the allegation of tuning, because those predictions have been made with the benefit of hindsight and are not demonstrably independent of the data that they are trying to predict.
— “Assessment of the first consensus prediction on climate change“, David J. Frame and Dáithí A. Stone, Nature Climate Change, April 2013.
“…results that are predicted “out-of-sample” demonstrate more useful skill than results that are tuned for (or accommodated).”
— “A practical philosophy of complex climate modelling” by Gavin A. Schmidt and Steven Sherwood, European Journal for Philosophy of Science, May 2015 (ungated copy).
Don’t believe the excuses: models can be thoroughly tested
Models should be tested vs. out of sample observations to prevent “tuning” the model to match known data (even inadvertently), for the same reason that scientists run double-blind experiments). The future is the ideal out of sample data, since model designers cannot tune their models to it. Unfortunately…
“…if we had observations of the future, we obviously would trust them more than models, but unfortunately observations of the future are not available at this time.”
— Thomas R. Knutson and Robert E. Tuleya, note in Journal of Climate, December 2005.
There is a solution. The models from the first four IPCC assessment reports can be run with observations made after their design (from their future, our past) — a special kind of hindcast.
“To avoid confusion, it should perhaps be noted explicitly that the “predictions” by which the validity of a hypothesis is tested need not be about phenomena that have not yet occurred, that is, need not be forecasts of future events; they may be about phenomena that have occurred but observations on which have not yet been made or are not known to the person making the prediction.”
— Milton Friedman, ibid.
“However, the passage of time helps with this problem: the scientific community has now been working on the climate change topic for a period comparable to the prediction and the timescales over which the climate is expected to respond to these types of external forcing (from now on simply referred to as the response). This provides the opportunity to start evaluating past predictions of long-term climate change: even though we are only halfway through the period explicitly referred to in some predictions, we think it is reasonable to start evaluating their performance…”
— Frum and Stone, ibid.
We can run the models as they were originally run for the IPCC in the First Assessment Report (1990), in the Second (1995), and the Third (2001) — using actual emissions as inputs but with no changes of the algorithms, etc. The results allow testing of their predictions over multi-decade periods.
These older models were considered skillful when published, so determination of their skill will help us decide if we now have sufficiently strong evidence to take large-scale policy action on climate change. The cost of this test will be trivial compared to overall cost of climate science research — and even more so compared to the stakes at risk for the world should the high-end impact forecasts prove correct.
Determining models’ skill
“Confirmations should count only if they are the result of risky predictions; that is to say, if, unenlightened by the theory in question, we should have expected an event which was incompatible with the theory — an event which would have refuted the theory.”
— Karl Popper in Conjectures and Refutations: The Growth of Scientific Knowledge
(1963).
“We stress that adequacy or utility of climate models is best assessed via their skill against more naıve predictions.”
— Mann-Sherwood, ibid.
How do we evaluate the skill of models? A prediction of warming says little, since the world has been warming since the mid-19th century — so continued warming is a “naive” prediction. A simple continuation of trends is one form of baseline against which to compare a model’s predictions.
The literature proposes more sophisticated baselines which raise the bar for success. These tests will produce data, not black and white answers. What would come next in the policy process? For a summary see “The ‘uncertainty loop’ haunting our climate models” by David Roberts at Vox, 23 October 2015.
From “The uncertainty loop haunting our climate models” at VOX, 23 October 2016. Click to enlarge.
Have model predictions been tested?
“The scientific community has placed little emphasis on providing assessments of CMP {climate model prediction} quality in light of performance at severe tests. … CMP quality is thus supposed to depend on simulation accuracy. However, simulation accuracy is not a measure of test severity. If, for example, a simulation’s agreement with data results from accommodation of the data, the agreement will not be unlikely, and therefore the data will not severely test the suitability of the model that generated the simulation for making any predictions.”
— “Should we assess climate model predictions in light of severe tests?” by Joel Katzav in EOS (by the American Geophysical Union), 11 June 2011.
A proposal similar to mine was made by Roger Pielke Jr. in “Climate predictions and observations“, Nature Geoscience, April 2008. Oddly, this has not been done, although there have been simple examinations of model projections (i.e., using estimates of future data, not predictions using observations), countless naive hindcasts (predicting the past using observations available to model developers), and reports of successful predictions of specific components of weather dynamics (useful if it were to be done systematically so an overall “score” was produced).
For a review of this literature see (f) in the For More Information section of my proposal.
Conclusions
In my experience both sides in the public policy debate have become intransigent and excessively confident. Hence the disinterest of both sides in testing since they plan to win by brute force: electing politicians that agree with them. I’ve found a few exceptions, such as climate scientists Roger Pielke Sr. and Judith Curry, and meteorologist Anthony Watts. More common are the many scientists who told me that they shifted to low-profile research topics to avoid the pressure, or have abandoned climate science entirely (e.g., Roger Pielke Jr.).
We — the American public — have to force change in this dysfunctional public policy debate. We pay for most climate science research, and can focus it on providing answers that we need. The alternative is to wait for the weather to answer our questions, after which we pay the costs. They might be high.
Other posts about the climate policy debate
This post is a summary of the information and conclusions from these posts, which discuss these matters in greater detail.
- How we broke the climate change debates. Lessons learned for the future.
- My proposal: Climate scientists can restart the climate change debate – & win.
- Thomas Kuhn tells us what we need to know about climate science.
- Daniel Davies’ insights about predictions can unlock the climate change debate.
- Karl Popper explains how to open the deadlocked climate policy debate.
- Paul Krugman talks about economics. Climate scientists can learn from his insights.
- Milton Friedman’s advice about restarting the climate policy debate.

A simple equation, employing the time-integral of sunspot number anomalies and an approximation of the net effect of all ocean cycles achieves a 97% match with measured average global temperatures since before 1900. Including the effects of CO2 improves the match by 0.1%. http://globalclimatedrivers.blogspot.com
“We can end the climate policy wars: demand a test of the models”
This has to be the funniest and most misguided title at this site in a long time. I really got a chuckle out of it.
It is almost as if the author thinks the alarmists or the luke-warmers either one care a fig about facts and real data. Of course the climate models are useless for showing how climate works, heck, they are built on top of idiot physics. The idea of CO2 warming the planet (another Carl Sagan idiocy) and being the “control knob” of the planet is only believed by … well … knobs.
But alarmists know they are riding a dead horse. It is a funny dead horse since it is dead only if facts and observations are important to you. If politics and destruction of our industrialized society is your goal then the horse is not as dead as advertised. It keeps on scaring the people and that is what it is for.
The alarmists are not going to give up. They are not going to agree to a fair and open debate. You might as well expect honest out of Mrs. Clinton on what she was doing with that e-mail server and all that illegal data on it. Good luck with both.
~Mark
…It has never been about climate. It has been about wealth redistribution and the destruction of capitalism !
Have you looked at the model-hindcasting/fabricated-aerosol issue, as described below? I would be interested in your comments.
Hypothesis:
The climate models cited by the IPCC typically use values of climate sensitivity to atmospheric CO2 (ECS) values that are significantly greater than 1C, which must assume strong positive feedbacks for which there is NO evidence. If anything, feedbacks are negative and ECS is less than 1C. This is one key reason why the climate models cited by the IPCC greatly over-predict global warming.
I reject as false the climate modellers’ claims that manmade aerosols caused the global cooling that occurred from ~1940 to ~1975. This aerosol data was apparently fabricated to force the climate models to hindcast the global cooling that occurred from ~1940 to ~1975, and is used to allow a greatly inflated model input value for ECS.
Some history on this fabricated aerosol data follows:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/27/new-paper-global-dimming-and-brightening-a-review/#comment-151040
More from Douglas Hoyt in 2006:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/02/cooler-heads-at-noaa-coming-around-to-natural-variability/#comments
Regards, Allan
“How do we evaluate the skill of models?”
With the AMO and the Arctic. The models say that increased greenhouse gases will increase positive Arctic and North Atlantic Oscillations. But it requires increased negative AO/NAO for the AMO and Arctic to warm.
http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch10s10-3-5-6.html
Ignoring the argument that both ‘sides’ of the argument will never agree about models, they can be tested.
Run the model from start up to today and freeze its operation, 12 months later, if CO2 has increased over those 12 months, then input that change into the model. The same for all of the other measurable and variable model inputs. We then unfreeze the model, wait until it completes the 12 month.
Compare its outputs with measured values.
It will be either within a defined level of agreement or not.
As aerosols and volcanic output etc would have been input there can be no excuse that they have produced a projection not a prediction.
I and most others suspect it will be in great error,
steverichards1984
When you assert that today’s climate models can be tested your assertion is true. When you imply that the projections of today’s climate models can be falsified by the evidence this implication is false. As they are not examples of propositions, projections cannot be falsified.
The climate uncertainty loop is an interesting exercise in bias and loopy thinking.
It does acknowledge that we do not know how much greenhouse gases will affect global temperature, but yet it is certain that it will rise by assuming natural variability is inconsequential.
It goes on to acknowledge that we do not know how nature will react to rises in temperature, but again ignores that nature is part of what creates the temperature. In this loop nature is not an agent in global temperature but only a subject of human behavior. I wonder how nature feels about being cast as a victim and not an agent.
The worst it saves for last, that whatever happens it will certainly damage human health and economies. That is a wild guess/wish/speculation. Certain disaster is not a valid null hypothesis, it is more reasonable to speculate a potentially warmer earth will help some regions, hurt others and have no effect for the majority of inhabited regions.
The concept of a loop is what is really loopy. It makes no sense. It suggests things can get only worse by going though the loop. But each time through the loop things would have to get better as damaged economies and decreased human population decreases CO2. Hint: It is not a loop, it is just a flat time line to 2100. Yeah sure, these are the people we want making policy decisions.
Since there is nothing “wrong” with the climate, nor indeed anything we can do about climate except what we’ve always done which is to adapt, then we don’t even need a “climate policy”.
Bruce Cobb:
I refer you to my above post that pointed out the error of your assertion in response to Freedom Monger when he made the same assertion.
I copy it to here to save you needing to find it.
Richard
Preparing for the future, whatever that may be is not climate change policy. Rather, it is plain common sense, something sadly in short supply these days, particularly within the government brain trust.
Bruce Cobb:
Preparing for effects of climate changes that recur is a climate policy.
For example, Australia suffers climate periods of floods interspersed with periods of drought and the policy responses to this are a matter of serious political disagreement there.
Choosing not to prepare for the effects of recurring climate change is also a climate policy.
And so is trying to control the climate, but I oppose that policy because its costs are greater than the improbable benefits it may provide.
Richard
Re: Dr. Norman Page:
The public, corporations, politicians and institutions will only accept cooling when they are alone, freezing in the dark.
Canada and the US have strong leaders who believe strongly in Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming. It is percolating into corporations who want to be SEEN as “Politically Correct”.
Personally, I don’t think warming has peaked, but I agree it will. Only I may not be around to see it.
Conversely, I don’t think I will live to see the electrification of the railways in North America so they can be run by renewable energy; or that diesel electric will be converted to bio-fuels. But CP Rail may already be lobbying for grant money to help them go “GREEN”:
CORPORATE BUY IN TO CAGW
Many on WUWT think the CAGW meme has lost its luster in the public eye. Polls would agree. But the GREENS have a new target and they are being successful.
Today the American CEO of Canadian Pacific Railways based in Calgary, Alberta, Canada announced:
“People need to get their heads around the idea that fossil fuels are “probably dead,” It would seem he is following the lead of Barack Obama and Justin Trudeau. Perhaps he wants to get a grant to run the CPR on electricity from Solar and Wind. Perhaps he learned from their little scam on shipping biofuels back and forth across the US-Canada border. Perhaps he will also stop shipping coal and oil on CPR trains. /sarc
Or in reality, he is simply going with the politics de jour to keep his GREEN shareholders and big institutional investors happy by mouthing the words.
I am trying to envision the practicality of 10’s of thousands of miles of electrified train tracks and where the power to run them would come from.
Looks like a very political meaningless statement after you look at it.
But the fact that he felt compelled to say it at all says volumes.
https://www.timminstoday.com/national-news/fossil-fuels-probably-dead-says-canadian-pacific-railway-ceo-hunter-harrison-263722
I can see it now, trains being powered by wind generators carried on railcars, so as it moves, it powers ITSELF!!!!!!!!!
/sarc for clarity.
I’m not sure your “/sarc for clarity” will be enough to dissuade a grant being granted to the person who proposes a wind powered train.
This guy just didn’t thing big enough.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/05/16/chinese-farmer-invents-wind-powered-car/
(And Obama is not the president of China.8-)
My observation is the the people most worried about climate change are those who stand to gain the most from inducing governments and other sources of funding to form policies to throw money at the problem.
It’s true that successful predictions are the gold standard for validating theories but untrue that today’s climate models make predictions. They make projections. A prediction is an example of a proposition. A projection is not.
Terry,
Please read the post. I’m discussing predictions, climate model outputs over time periods for which the inputs are known — not projections using scenarios. See the definitions from the Glossary of AR5:
An example of the confusion about climate “predictions”
From “What Weather Is the Fault of Climate Change?” by Heidi Cullen, op-ed in the NYT, 11 March 2016. Bold emphasis added.
Heidi Cullen is chief scientist at Climate Central, a climate research and communications organization, and the author of “The Weather of the Future.”
Ms Cullen — “You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means.”
The study she mentions is “Human influence on climate in the 2014 southern England winter floods and their impacts” by Nathalie Schaller et al, Nature Climate Change, in press. Abstract:
YOU WROTE:
“Successful predictions: the gold standard for validating theories.”
MY RESPONSE:
Let’s say climate change is caused mainly by changes involving our sun.
Let’s say those changes are not happening in a regular cycle, perhaps happening at random.
If you KNEW climate change was caused by the sun, but could not predict what the sun was going to do in the future, then you would have a GOOD THEORY, but could not make predictions with it.
Right now we have a bad climate change theory dominating the mainstream press, and 40 years of bad climate predictions that the press ignores.
How can a model EVER fail a “test” when the people who own the model, also own the average temperature measurements used by the mainstream media, and they constantly “adjust” average temperature measurements to better match their model predictions?
Governments control the predictions AND the actuals — they can’t fail a test … unless it happens to get so cold that people begin to notice it doesn’t feel like global warming outside!
YOU WROTE:
“Resolving the climate policy wars through science will require action by us, the American public.”
MY COMMENT:
The American public has been dumbed down by public school / mainstream media propaganda, and too much time texting / watching videos online — almost no one has made any effort to independently study climate history, for even one hour of their entire life.
Those people who think they HAVE spent time studying climate history, usually base that claim on seeing Al Gore’s film, or an article featuring Michael Mann’s hockey stick chart.
The models have been tested. And everyone of them failed to predict temperatures over the past 18 years. QED.
The models said the temperature was going up, and it finally did, thanks to El Nino.
It’s a 100 year model — who cares if it’s wrong for 18 years?
I’ve bought stocks that went down before they went up — but I was right in the long run.
Head for the hills where it’s cool !
If the EL NINO rise continues for 35 more years, we’ll all be like frogs in a big pot of water heating up on a stove.
It will be so hot people will explode spontaneously.
Fat people will be the first to go.
Al Gore is in BIG trouble.
I am not making this up — I have a complex computer model that extrapolates with 97% accuracy.
While I made the same prediction for the 1998 EL NINO, I later found an error in the computer model — the current version is 257% better, and I am 105% confident of the current prediction, although this could take 34 years, or 36 years, rather than 35 years.
You should take climate change as seriously as I do.