The recent act of desperation from the collection of Climategate Climateers trying to diss the satellite based global temperature record has spawned a cartoon, and it isn’t from our usual cartooning friend, Josh.
And it seems so true, these folks keep holding on to an antiquated and highly corrected and adjusted metric (the surface temperature record) which is full of bad data, while at the same time saying essentially the same thing about the satellite record. It is the ultimate science based case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Source: Alex @plankslaw on Twitter
So much for “settled science”.
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OK. For anyone that thinks the earth is actually cooling instead of heating up. Explain why I’ve only seen snow accumulation once so far this year? North East section of the US. Anyone? The data presented at COP21 was adjusted to down play the severity of the situation unfolding. Why? Because if the researchers actually presented their data uncensored, they’d look like chicken little and their research grants would be no more. People always use the tired old argument,”But Antarctica is getting bigger.” On the surface, sure it looks bigger. But the last time I checked, scientists don’t have the means to measure the ice’s thickness at the South Pole yet. One last morsel of data for anyone interested. And NO it’s not from NOAA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDUeyxENx7o&feature=youtu.be
Maybe you should read the seasonal forecast for El Nino years?
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/us-winter-forecast-2015-2016-mild-northeast-california-rain/52732989
It does seem to be playing out as the norm for an El Nino year. I don’t have a strong opinion on where the climate is going to go but I do have one on scientific integrity and honesty. The shenanigans on the warmist side are detectible but generally not addressed or punished. This corrupts science and is rotting out our society on a generational scale.
When was the last time you checked?
Radar has measured the ice under Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station at about 2700 m thick. The SPIce coring project is currently drilling nearby down to a depth of 1500 m.
http://spicecore.org/
Your local weather in an El Nino year means nothing. Much of the world is suffering from unusual cold and snowfall. Since you’re in the US NE, I’m surprised that your area isn’t among them. Central New York State endured a record snow storm this month:
http://www.syracuse.com/living/index.ssf/2016/01/watch_record_snowfall_in_cnys_first_winter_storm_of_2016_time-lapse_videos.html
Toby, are you auditioning for the lead role in Fifty First Dates? How long ago did the US east coast set records for the most snow in a season? Just when did that area experience a “polar vortex” that set record lows? Yeah, those events were just weather, just as the El Nino-produced mild winter this year is. A single point does not show a trend; a single year does not define a climate.
There are sites where you can play Chicken Little and garner support from other mental midgets. This is not one of them.
One thing to do is compare the heights of the el ninos in the recons with another proxy for el ninos, the most prominent of which is coral bleaching. Well it so happens that 1998 was much worse for coral bleaching than 2010 which means that satellites reflect reality better. We’ll see the total amount of bleaching for 2016 in 2017. I predict it will be even less than in 2010.
Quite so. I ask the Satellite Den!ers, so if the RSS is wrong and (as adjusted) the land temp people are right and 1998 was a trivially small el Nino that went nowhere near the massive temp records of 2010, 2014, 2015 and 2016 (yes, they’ve already declared it hottest evah): Why did they forget to tell the corals? So just 2 simple questions:
1) What tricked the satellite? We’re not talking about orbital decay etc which is totally linear. This isn’t about the tilt of the curve. The satellites’ “malfunction” simply took a small el Nino, massively over-estimated it on the way up, and then fully retraced it on the way down creating an artificial “hottest evah” year where none existed. (And which strangely was confirmed by a massive spike in the 1998 terrestrial datasets, which subsequent study has shown was totally spurious.) I can’t think of any physical phenomenon that would cause a temporary, rather than structural, bias in the satellite.
2) What tricked the coral? Why did they bleach themselves during the trivially small 1998 el Nino but not the vastly hotta 2010 and 2015 el Ninos?
Just answer me those two things, and I will happily sign onto the CAGW meme. (Of course, then I will ask you for evidence that giving money to al-Gore and Buffett’s Big Wind operations will cure it!)
The above quote was about the agricultural industry along with “big pharma”, but I think it applies to all of science. It certainly applies to the
con-artists“climate scientists” who are pushing a totally un-scientific concept of CO2 controlling weather or climate.Mike the Morlock
January 15, 2016 at 4:51 pm
Janice Moore
January 15, 2016 at 6:10 pm
Mearns will not be stiffening his backbone except to pinch his nose first and do the dastardly with RSS. He is paid to produce RSS – it’s his job. However, he has been on record several times rationalizing and arguing against the pause, claiming the 97/98 El Nino is responsible – Dnires have started the pause from the top of the big El Nino hill. He also has said that the surface record is more apropos for determining warming. This new video is preparation/a trial balloon to see what response it gets.
They WILL NOT fear to efface RSS in some way. Karlizing the data to kill the pause was a bold stroke because T. Karl new it was a hornet’s nest and rallying ground of skeptics and it was the unwelcome elephant in the room of climate theory. The problem was so great that it had to be wiped out at all costs. Emboldened by what they had gotten away with with climategate and multiple whitewash investigations, they threw out the 4000 argo floats and recast sea surface temperatures with marine night time temperatures measured by passing ships!!! What happened – nothing! The other surface temperature record sets were simply rejiggered to karlize them, too.
If they can replace the argo floats a 19th century marine technology, they can recast RSS as anything they like, recalibrate it using nighttime marine SST as Karl did and suddenly the Satelllite pause also disappears except for that of UAH – we’ve already had Eli Rabbet above stick the first pin in:
Eli Rabett
January 15, 2016 at 9:31 pm
“Naw, there really is something rotten in the state of Alabama…
The short term agreement of the satellite measurements (months) with balloons and surface records is excellent but over the long term they drift away. Something is off there.”
To change slight cooling to warming is a satellite drift “adjustment”. They will also find some refrigerating element in the satellite itself that needs correction. Remember the sea level adjustment to account for crustal rebound? This correction added a volumetric factor so that their sea-level is now a bit above the physical, real sea surface!! We don’t have a sea-level anymore.
I think we should alert Lamar Smith of the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology who is already investigating NOAA’s Karlizing of the pause. It may be that there are emails saying we have to torpedo the RSS to support NOAA’s actions. Maybe also Ted Cruz.
And crocodiles on Svalbard, hippos in UK, coal seams in Greenland with tropical fern tree fossils, dinosaur bones in Antarctica… The paleo record tells us of much greater past warmings that caused the planet to be lush with vegetation and wildlife.
Yup. At the end of the Pliocene, just 2.6 million years ago, the Arctic Ocean was ringed by spruce and pine forest. The treeline was at the shoreline. Then the Isthmus of Panama formed and the northern continents developed waxing and waning ice sheets, joining Antarctica under frozen water. The southern continent also owes its burden of ice to oceanic circulation change. The East Antarctic Ice Sheet formed at the Eocene-Oligocene boundary, when the continent was finally cut off from South America and Australia by deep currents, creating the Southern Ocean.
I see the true believers Mosh and Gates trying their darndest to convert people to the dark side. They need to stop looking at now, and look at history, it is full of details of the climate of the times. It has been much warmer than now and much colder. Many things have changed our climate, but co2 never has, what is wrong with the thought processes of this pair. Unfortunately for their ilk the historic records are fact, PC did not become fashionable until recently. The solar records would suggest that rather bad cold conditions co-incide with the suns cycles. That said, it would appear that the sun is about to have its normal sabbatical as we enter a new La Nina, the coming few years should be a real test for their propaganda skills.
They trust GPS satellites and not weather satellites? What is the difference? In fact, we trust our lives to positioning satellites every time we fly in commercial aircraft – don’t we? I like the point of the cartoon, too. It appears that the public is definitely aware of the hypocrisy so one wonders what the supporters of the alarmists true aims are? They can’t be based upon their poor excuse for science. So what are the true motives and will the public finally say, enough is enough? I’m hoping Trump will raise this issue and make this climate scaremongering a major election issue. For sure, he doesn’t like the destruction of the coal industry and would allow commerce to return, I think.
Mears explained, in a Washington Post interview, why he thinks the site temperature indices are more reliable than than satellite; it is that all the site data sets (GISS, BEST, etc) are similiar. Could there be another explanation for why they are similiare, other than being more reliable? Don’t they use the same raw data, and do they not communicate with each other? Reminds me of a discussion in a business class many years ago; each year when new cars were introduced Ford and Chrysler would hold off until GM prices were public and could then make their prices competitive.
Richard
On the Flat Earth, satellites could not be trusted, because they would be falling down (“orbit decay”). Hillarious!
Hillarious means connected to Hillary ….