Claim: Climate Change Forced Bigfoot to Migrate to America

Casual, Great Ape, Uganda, Author Rod Waddington from Kergunyah, Australia, Source Wikimedia
Casual, Great Ape, Uganda, Author Rod Waddington from Kergunyah, Australia, Source Wikimedia

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The International Business Times claims that Gigantopethicus, a huge ape which died out 100,000 years ago in China, may instead have been driven by Climate Change to cross the Bering Strait.

According to the IBT;

Gigantopithecus, Asia’s ‘King Kong,’ died due to climate change

The biggest ape to roam the Earth went extinct 100,000 years ago because the species was not able to adapt to just consuming savannah grass after climate change hit its favoured diet of forest fruit, according to scientists. Weighing five times as much as an adult man and standing up to three metres tall, Gigantopithecus, the closest nature ever came to producing a real King Kong, was still not invincible enough to survive drastic climate changes.

The species lived in semi-tropical forests in southern China and mainland Southeast Asia. Scientists say that the Gigantopithecus was the closest modern cousin of orangutans. Experts around the world did not know why the animal went extinct. In fact, when fossils were discovered in the 1930s, the Gigantopithecus’ teeth were sold as dragon’s teeth in Hong Kong.

However, other apes and early humans in Africa survived the transition by switching their diets to eat the leaves, roots and grass grown in their new environment, Phys.org reports. The Gigantopethicus lacked the physiological ability and ecological flexibility to resist stress and food shortage. Other experts, most notably Grover Krantz, suggested that the Gigantopithecus may have survived and migrated from Asia over the Bering straits.

Read more: http://www.ibtimes.com.au/gigantopithecus-asias-king-kong-died-due-climate-change-1497636

Grover Krantz believed in Bigfoot. During his career Krantz made serious contributions to anthropology, but his efforts to prove the existence of giant apes living in the American wilderness, have largely been dismissed.

In the field of Anthropology, it takes more evidence than a theoretical model, a few questionable proxies (plaster casts of alleged “footprints”), and a dodgy film reel, to establish a theory as “settled science”.

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Dawtgtomis
January 6, 2016 4:03 pm

My, my… How gratuitously in-vogue to learn something like that!

george e smith
Reply to  Dawtgtomis
January 6, 2016 9:36 pm

So just where in North America or the Americas, have Gigantopithecus skeletal remains been unearthed so far, and how many species of Gigantipithecus in the Americas, are known ??
Enquiring minds want to know; Science and all that; you know, observation and experiment being the crux of it, so to speak !?
G

Reply to  george e smith
January 6, 2016 10:51 pm

Borneo, Washington, DC, by coincidence.

Reply to  george e smith
January 7, 2016 3:29 am

Hi big G (whatever happened to g>G ?)
Science may not be wrong, it just needs regular updating.
“For the first time, astronomers have seen dim flickers of visible light from near a black hole, researchers with an international science team said. In fact, the light could be visible to anyone with a moderate-size telescope.”
Perhaps black holes aren’t that powerful after all
http://www.space.com/31532-black-hole-visible-light-telescope-discovery.html

emsnews
Reply to  george e smith
January 7, 2016 5:52 am

Probably there are bones buried in Central Park after King Kong was killed in Manhattan! 🙂

TRM
Reply to  george e smith
January 7, 2016 7:46 am

With Jimmy Hoffa

Del Rio
Reply to  george e smith
January 7, 2016 8:29 am

FWIW Bernal Díaz del Castillo tells of having seen among Aztec possessions the bones of giants in his ” “The True History of the Conquest of New Spain.” One wonders if this might have something to do with that.

Bryan A
Reply to  george e smith
January 7, 2016 10:37 am

This really hits home as to why Climate Change is SO BAD and must be avoided at all costs. 97% of Scientists agree that since Gigantopethicus, with his overtly developed mental capacity, couldn’t adapt to Climate Change, his distant cousins (Gigantopatheticus) Homo Sapiens obviously aren’t developed enough to be able to figure it out. WERE DOOMED…..

george e smith
Reply to  george e smith
January 7, 2016 12:11 pm

Well since you ask; vuc old chap, some times I’m not in the crescendo mood, so I just light off everything at once.
So it’s like swimming in the ocean with the sharks; there ain ‘t NO such thing, as 75% of top speed !!
Well that’s what all of the survivors claim.
G<g

PiperPaul
January 6, 2016 4:13 pm

Well, Bigfoot “science” and current climate “science” DO share some commonalities, so…

Latitude
Reply to  PiperPaul
January 6, 2016 6:58 pm

exactly….
“. The Gigantopethicus lacked the physiological ability and ecological flexibility to resist stress and food shortage.”
…they don’t know that either

Reply to  Latitude
January 6, 2016 10:21 pm

Don’t tell anyone, but I’m fairly certain that one just moved in down the street aways….

Lank
Reply to  Latitude
January 7, 2016 3:22 am

I think he put his big foot on it.

JohnKnight
Reply to  Latitude
January 7, 2016 4:55 pm

PiperPaul
“Well, Bigfoot “science” and current climate “science” DO share some commonalities, so…”
Latitude
“exactly….
“. The Gigantopethicus lacked the physiological ability and ecological flexibility to resist stress and food shortage.”
…they don’t know that either”
That is not Bigfoot “science” talk-talk, that is Evolution “science” talk-talk, guys . . that’s how Evolutionist lingo reads (in the mass media anyway), it seems to me. All manner of speculative “stories” phrased as though known scientific truths. Climate science is not the first realm of “consensus science” to be hyped to high heaven, so to speak ; )

JohnWho
January 6, 2016 4:19 pm

So, if Bigfoot hadn’t listened to Al Gore he’d still be in China, perhaps walled in?
Hmmm…

FTOP_T
Reply to  JohnWho
January 6, 2016 6:49 pm

Isn’t a ManBearPig a direct descendant of Bigfoot.

Bryan A
Reply to  FTOP_T
January 7, 2016 10:38 am

Oh no…Not Yeti, not yeti, not… DOOMED

Bubba Cow
January 6, 2016 4:20 pm

so how much are the modern orangutan cousins demanding from developed countries as compensation for their ancestor climate refugees ??

Tom Judd
Reply to  Bubba Cow
January 7, 2016 9:31 am

Bananas.

Richard Keen
January 6, 2016 4:30 pm

Methinks they’re testing the water for their big release:
That Unicorns did drown in the Great Flood, which in turn was caused by Global Warming.

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  Richard Keen
January 6, 2016 4:38 pm

But: did they all drown? Team coverage tonight!

Goldrider
Reply to  Dawtgtomis
January 6, 2016 4:49 pm

I KNOW that three of them are in my pen out back, but you need some Jack Daniels’ to see them.

Reply to  Dawtgtomis
January 7, 2016 2:07 am

@Gold rider? Are them the same unicorns I took out to see the rabbit hole and the gold brick road?

Reply to  Richard Keen
January 6, 2016 5:17 pm

Global Warming … nay. It was climate change.

TheLastDemocrat
Reply to  Richard Keen
January 7, 2016 6:48 am


[could’nt resist]

1saveenergy
January 6, 2016 4:32 pm

Climate Change Forced Bigfoot to Migrate to America
his son is Donald Trump, you can see the family likeness in the hair & teeth in the link –
http://www.ibtimes.com.au/gigantopithecus-asias-king-kong-died-due-climate-change-1497636

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  1saveenergy
January 6, 2016 4:43 pm

We’ll need King Kong to fight the Godzilla El Nino!

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  Dawtgtomis
January 6, 2016 4:48 pm

Perhaps the coming La Nina will be dubbed “Wonder Woman”.

Leonard Lane
January 6, 2016 4:35 pm

I recall watching a 1960’s program by Bill Burrud called “Animal Planet”, I believe, that showed a man explaining how he made Bigfoot tracks. He put on the hair suit and strapped big, stiff footprint soles and made a trail of tracks in the moist soil. The man claimed he had been doing it for some time. Cannot find the film. It was entertaining.

Reply to  Leonard Lane
January 6, 2016 4:49 pm

In the 1960’s?
It’s much easier to make a big faux pas today.
Just make a climate model.

Reply to  Leonard Lane
January 6, 2016 5:23 pm

The guy didn’t get enough attention by making the prints so he needed to go public with his fraud to try for more attention.
If Mann is ignored it may be that he would try honesty (and admit to his fraud) as an attention getter.

Edmonton Al
Reply to  DonM
January 6, 2016 6:43 pm

Do you mean “Michael Bigfoot-in-Mouth Mann”??

lee
January 6, 2016 4:43 pm

‘because the species was not able to adapt to just consuming savannah grass after climate change hit its favoured diet of forest fruit,’
‘The species lived in semi-tropical forests in southern China and mainland Southeast Asia’
I don’t know much about Bigfoot. But if he couldn’t adapt to climate change; how come he is supposed to have survived in the snowpacks, as stories seem to attest?

F. Ross
Reply to  lee
January 6, 2016 4:53 pm

Gosh you are picky.
🙂

george e smith
Reply to  lee
January 6, 2016 9:45 pm

So if BF was a super Orangutangle type of critter, Just how did they actually perambulate across the Bering Bridge, given that they would need a more or less continuum of trees to swing across above ground level.
Was perhaps George of the Jungle a BF Gigantopithecus Orangutangle ??
G
Isn’t there a technical term for how Gibbons etc do the GotJ bit . It’s very pretty to watch.

Byron
Reply to  george e smith
January 8, 2016 12:53 am

Brachiation is the word You’re looking for George .

David Chappell
Reply to  lee
January 7, 2016 3:11 am

I did wonder how many semi-tropical forests there were in Alaska,

Mjw
January 6, 2016 4:47 pm

Krantz should spend less time watching 1950’s horror films on television.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Mjw
January 6, 2016 8:31 pm

and more time welcoming our insect overlords

emsnews
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
January 7, 2016 5:54 am

Well, insects hate the cold, after all.

H.R.
January 6, 2016 4:51 pm

I read a different source for this story today and it mentioned that Gigantopithecus existed from possibly nine million years ago until about 100,000 years ago. That means it had survived the climate change of many prior glacial and inter-glacial episodes. So… why did it go extinct only after the last inter-glacial?
That was an honest question, but my guess is it will soon be pushed as the fault of humans.

Latitude
Reply to  H.R.
January 6, 2016 5:01 pm

even though things like mosquitoes/malaria are going to kill us all, now…
….things like this never happened in the past

ferdberple
Reply to  H.R.
January 6, 2016 5:12 pm

why did it go extinct
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BBQed they tasked like chicken.

RACookPE1978
Editor
Reply to  H.R.
January 6, 2016 6:06 pm

H.R. (And others above)

So… why did it go extinct only after the last inter-glacial?
That was an honest question, but my guess is it will soon be pushed as the fault of humans.

Most likely, their history lives on in the world-wide tribal memory tales of ogres, trolls, and giants. (In Europe, see Neanderthals for a similar “reason” to tell tales of the like monsters. )
Ever see a dragon bone? Look at the head, shoulder bones and arched back bones of a fossilized dinosaur.

PiperPaul
Reply to  RACookPE1978
January 6, 2016 6:26 pm

Boogeyman legends designed to scare children from venturing too far into the woods morph into a pastime for gullible people/people who enjoy fooling others.

JohnB
Reply to  RACookPE1978
January 6, 2016 6:45 pm

Maybe it’s simply that the time of the Megafauna was over. All giant species started dying off a couple of million years ago, some survived longer than others.
You could reasonably say that the Elephant and Rhino, while being large land animals are also the “Last of the Megafauna” and doomed to die. (With or without the help of poachers.)
So the real question H.R. is “Why did all the Megafauna die off?”. Man didn’t do it as they started their march to extinction well before any modern form of human had evolved. They continued to die off even in areas where there were no humans. Why?

Reply to  RACookPE1978
January 6, 2016 10:06 pm

‘You could reasonably say that the Elephant and Rhino, while being large land animals are also the “Last of the Megafauna” and doomed to die. (With or without the help of poachers.) ‘
My coach in high school used a rechargeable megafauna during practice and it always died out….

Reply to  RACookPE1978
January 6, 2016 10:49 pm

The end of mega fauna probably coincides with the rise of the eurasian gray wolf and modern humans. The latter arrived to Asia too late to be responsible but there might be fossils further south in jungle that survived that are yet to be discovered bringing the actual extinction to well after the world began cooling.
Both are very good at hunting large animals by working together and then when the two species combined, the fat lady started singing.

Reply to  RACookPE1978
January 7, 2016 1:21 am

Just read that the number of fossils of this animal are very few and some were found in Thailand. It looks like the youngest fossil being about the same time as the last glaciation began is just a coincidence.

chris moffatt
Reply to  H.R.
January 7, 2016 5:19 am

They were hunted down and eaten by other (smaller but more violent and voracious) hominids which had become carnivorous due to the alleged lack of forest fruits.
All this seems to be an awful lot of wild speculation based on a reanalysis of some fossil teeth. But then I’m not a biologist.

emsnews
Reply to  H.R.
January 7, 2016 5:55 am

Perhaps the revolutionary Red Guards did it! 🙂

JohnTyler
Reply to  H.R.
January 7, 2016 7:30 am

It will be conclusively shown that SUVs, trucks, and locomotives killed many Giganto Apes as these apes attempted to cross major interstates and RR tracks.
But most were killed by acid rain – produced by the burning of coal in power plants; the acid polluted all the vegetation the Giganto Apes consumed, gave them all ulcers and they all died.
Just more evidence that humans are killing the planet and everything on it; but we already knew that, didn’t we. This, we know, is settled.

Latitude
January 6, 2016 4:58 pm

Other experts, most notably Grover Krantz, suggested that the Gigantopithecus may have survived and migrated from Asia over the Bering straits.
===
So the cold came down from the north and killed the fruit trees it was eating…
…so it went north, into the cold and less food….to cross the Bering straits
…head wall

1saveenergy
Reply to  Latitude
January 6, 2016 5:12 pm

Maybe he/she/they hijacked Noah’s Ark

Reply to  Latitude
January 6, 2016 6:04 pm

+1

u.k(us)
January 6, 2016 5:03 pm

Since when is this “news” ?

ferdberple
January 6, 2016 5:05 pm

The Sasquatch knows there is no such thing as Bigfoot.

u.k(us)
Reply to  ferdberple
January 6, 2016 5:13 pm

Not anymore.

Reply to  ferdberple
January 7, 2016 7:14 am

Of course Sasquatch is real – we even named a Canadian province after him!

January 6, 2016 5:13 pm

Thus came the ManBearPig.comment image
Al Gore was right!

Mayor of Venus
Reply to  UnfrozenCavemanMD
January 6, 2016 9:56 pm

Mark Jan. 25 on your calendar!

Paul Westhaver
January 6, 2016 5:18 pm

To be fair, Lewandowski needs to conduct some study ( if in fact he is competent ) assessing the correlation between involvement in fantastical pursuits and belief in CAGW.
I conjecture that the nose dripping twaddle purveyor, sees nothing wrong with a Bigfoot believer ALSO believing in CAGW.
That is right up there with panspermia, & Niribu cataclysm.

JohnWho
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
January 6, 2016 5:23 pm

“To be fair, Lewandowski needs to conduct some study ( if in fact he is competent ) ”
A fact not in evidence at this time, although probably implied by some computer model somewhere.

ferdberple
Reply to  JohnWho
January 7, 2016 6:58 am

Lew makes a much better study subject than author.
Climate Psychology 101. How Climate Studies Arrive at Pre-ordained Conclusions.
1. Write the conclusion
2. Apply for a grant to prove the conclusion
3. Discard all evidence that contradicts the conclusion
4. Publish the remain evidence to prove the conclusion is correct.
This process starts by studying the funding body, to see what they believe to be true. Because funding bodies never fund something they believe to be false. Once you know what they believe, then write a conclusion in support of this belief. This ensures you will get funding.
Then, once you have the funding, by selectively choosing your evidence you can easily prove the conclusion to be true. this guarantees that you will pass peer review, because your peers know that their funding is tied as well to the beliefs of the funding bodies. They cannot take a contrary position without risking their own funding.
And once you are published, your positive results will encourage the funding body, proving that their beliefs were correct, guaranteeing a warm reception the next time you apply for funding.
The key is to recognize that the process starts and ends with recognizing what the funding body already believes to be true, and proposing a study to reinforce this belief.

ferdberple
January 6, 2016 5:22 pm

early humans in Africa survived the transition by switching their diets to eat the leaves, roots and grass
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no, they switched from eating plants to eating animals, using the newly domesticated fire to do our hunting out on the plains. We didn’t need to outrun our prey, anything that couldn’t outrun fire became dinner.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  ferdberple
January 6, 2016 8:34 pm

I think they developed the encirclement and clubbing technique for hunting. Fire can burn in too many directions!

emsnews
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
January 7, 2016 5:58 am

Wrong. Fires are directional. Investigators of fire scenes all know that the least burned parts are where fires begin. That is, they grow outwards rapidly, in one direction only. The exception is anything like a bomb such as a nuclear bomb. These explosions make their own ‘wind’ in all directions so the center point is where ignition happens.

Reply to  ferdberple
January 6, 2016 9:16 pm

As to the animals becoming prey, we didn’t need to outrun them in the sprint, or burn them out, unless they were large herd animals, because we could outlast them in the distance. Even in the 1960s, a thoroughly trained distance runner has chased a horse to death, and Abbebe Bilika, the Ethiopian marathoner, as a boy, ran small birds to collapse. He then popped them in a bag and took the, full sack home to Mom to cook dinner. Prey animals, and most predators, are good in sprints for getting out of an ambush, or enabling one. Humans, wild dog packs, and other coursing hunters, do not bother with the body mods for the strength-to-weight ratio needed for ambush, but run their prey until they drop, or until pursuit comes within range of a carry-able projectile.
That we then still had to turn antelope into dinner meant that we needed more brains, so that heat prostration in the older parts of the brain would still leave sufficient capability to get killing done without getting skewered ourselves. No need for the scenario of , …”Gee, Fred, we really did run it down, …we really did, ..uhhhh, …wadda we do now Fred????? Those horns he’s thrashing around look sharp”

paqyfelyc
Reply to  Sine Arrow
January 7, 2016 5:14 am

+1
Moreover preys like antelope tend to run in fairly small and predictable circles, meaning a pair of hunter can easily relay in the hunt

ferdberple
Reply to  Sine Arrow
January 7, 2016 6:16 am

because we could outlast them in the distance
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it would be interesting to see if a human distance runner could in fact run down a horse in below zero temperatures. I suspect the horse would do better, as compared to a race run in for example in 30C temperatures. I expect the warmer temperatures would be an advantage to the human.
this single fact makes fears over CAGW complete rubbish. Humans are tropical mammals. One of the best adapted to high temperatures. It is cold temperatures that we are not adapted to, and can only survive outside the tropics using technology.
I wonder if a comparative study of this sort would go a long way to easing fears over global warming? Human endurance racing other animals at different ambient temperatures. If temperatures were hot enough, I expect most mammals, perhaps even wolves, would have trouble over distance against humans, due to our efficiency at shedding heat.

TheLastDemocrat
Reply to  Sine Arrow
January 7, 2016 6:54 am
Reply to  Sine Arrow
January 7, 2016 7:56 am

Sine Arrow — quite right. Stamina and relentless persistence were the keys. Plus human heat-tolerance surpassed that of most animals (pursuing animals in the heat of the day).

Gloateus Maximus
Reply to  ferdberple
January 8, 2016 9:57 am

Genus Homo switched to eating animal fat before it discovered fire. The critical invention was of the stone “hand ax” capable of smashing scavenged large animal bones to get the brains and marrow, and for digging up tubers and roots. Increased fat intake allowed bigger brains and eventually control of fire.
But even before fire, humans could run down live prey by working in groups.

RockyRoad
January 6, 2016 5:22 pm

Was this “climate change” that they’re talking about caused by humans back then?
I didn’t think so.
(Just as it isn’t caused by humans now!)

JohnTyler
Reply to  RockyRoad
January 7, 2016 7:40 am

Of course it was AGW!!!!!
The science is settled. How on earth can you be so ignorant.
Everything “bad” on earth (in which “bad” is defined by the liberal progressive elites as anything they choose to be “bad”) is caused by human activity (but NOT any activities of liberal progressive ruling elites; they are incapable of doing anything “bad,” including flying in private airplanes, owning multiple very large homes, owning/renting very large pleasure boats, driving their own giant Cadillac Escalades, being chauffeured about in giant Cadillac Escalades, hiring the best tax accountants and lawyers to avoid paying taxes while they promote ever greater tax rates, etc. etc.).

u.k(us)
January 6, 2016 5:30 pm

As risk of being serious, I’ve heard we just used to run after them (think marathon) until they were too tired to move.
Then the kill was easy.
Wrong ???

Reply to  Eric Worrall
January 6, 2016 10:45 pm

The curious thing is that humans are one of the very few mammals to have lost body hair without becoming aquatically immersed for significant portions of their daily life. The running down of prey for organized social groups is a cake walk and the practice is well within living memory of North American aboriginal practice. Heck my mother used to tell stories of Apache Indians that worked on her father’s ranch catching rabbits alive so she and her sister’s could pet them. My great Grandfather and his buddies did the same in Arizona with Pronghorn antelope in the late 20’s in Arizona. The difficulty of doing these things sometimes gets exaggerated by Anthropologists who have lost track of simple rural living a couple of generations ago. Perhaps European academic tradition is to blame since those sort of solutions are further back in European collective memory.

emsnews
Reply to  Eric Worrall
January 7, 2016 6:01 am

And we sweat easily! Another cooling factor. And yes, being naked has a lot to do with being in a warm climate. Once humanoids figured out how to skin animals and then wear these skins, did we expand our base outside of the warmest parts of Africa.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
January 7, 2016 9:54 am

esmnews: Now there’s a guy who never had to brush and curry the horses after a day’s work. They sweat plenty easily. I don’t know that we have come up with more than plausible stories as why humans are naked and some of those, on the face of it, don’t seem to pass muster. One thing for sure: that meat fed growing brain had an awful lot to do with adaptability.

MarkW
Reply to  u.k(us)
January 7, 2016 6:19 am

It has several factors. From what I have read, bipedalism is more efficient that quadrapedalism, then we evolved tendons and cartilage in the feet and lower legs that allowed us to store and release energy while running, making us even more efficient at running long distances. And finally the loss of hair on our bodies allowed us to sweat more efficiently.
I haven’t read this anywhere, but I suspect that the fact that we started eating meat allowed our guts to shrink, which left more room for a bigger heart and lungs.

Bob
January 6, 2016 5:44 pm

I seem to remember an anthropology argument that creatures as large as the giant apes require LOTS of calories to survive. It is really hard to picture giant apes crossing a frozen Bering land bridge to find some berries. No, they would have gone south, or they would have died. After all, stuff doesn’t grow in the winter very well.

MarkW
Reply to  Bob
January 7, 2016 6:20 am

As a body gets bigger, it’s surface to mass ratio shrinks. Which would mean less heat lost to the environment.

Bob
Reply to  MarkW
January 7, 2016 6:50 am

Not really. Maybe less heat per unit of surface, but that depends on the calories burned. More mass, more calories, the more food required to fuel that massive body.

Password Protected
January 6, 2016 5:45 pm

So Bigfoot had enough fire to change the climate….they should have survived much longer.
I thought it was my excessive teenage consumption of fuel in muscle cars that warmed the planet.
I feel far less significant now.

Neo
January 6, 2016 5:55 pm

Hey, I hear that Hillary Clinton is going to get to the bottom of UFOs and Area 51. It shouldn’t take much to get her to pander to the “Bigfoot” crazies.

Richard Keen
Reply to  Neo
January 6, 2016 6:05 pm

Hillary (and her man) get to the bottom of all sorts of things.
[“.. into the bottom of of all sorts of thongs? .mod]

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Richard Keen
January 6, 2016 8:39 pm

Valentines day, around 1998. I booked a romantic meal for my partner and I in a local restaurant (Melbourne). I asked what the dress code was and was told “no thongs”. I thought “What the hell has my underwear have to do with anything?”. Of course, this was Australia and “thongs” are “flip-flops” (Footware). I had a good chuckle about that.

Richard Keen
Reply to  Richard Keen
January 7, 2016 2:05 am

[“.. into the bottom of of all sorts of thongs? .mod]
Bottom feeders of any and all sorts.
Besides….. What difference does it make?

AndyE
January 6, 2016 6:01 pm

What do they mean? “Forced” bigfoot! Climate change obviously “presented bigfoot with the possibility”. And bigfoot was bright enough to grasp it.

January 6, 2016 6:40 pm

I doubt anyone here actually read the paper in
Quaternary International
which had nothing whatsoever to do with Bigfoot.

The very large size of Gigantopithecus, combined with a relatively restricted dietary niche, may explain its demise during the drastic forest reduction that characterized the glacial periods in South East Asia.

What is so surprising about that?

u.k(us)
Reply to  David Sanger
January 6, 2016 7:02 pm

The use of the word “may” in that excerpt ?
I was always pretty sure Bigfoot never existed, now I “may” not be sure.
In fact I’m leaning toward the theory that the Sasquatch caused its demise.

chris moffatt
Reply to  David Sanger
January 7, 2016 5:41 am

well maybe nothing; maybe this report, compared to the paper, is just another example of the corruption of ideas by journalists. OTOH one has to ask how did this species survive the several ice ages that preceded the last one? The suspicion would be that something new came into the situation and the paper makes no attempt that I see to address that. However it seems to be just a hypothesis and the IBT has no business presenting it as fact as they do. Plus “climate change” is a coded term in journalism and doesn’t refer to the onset of an ice age when used by journalists today.

michael hart
January 6, 2016 6:42 pm

Gigantopithecus, Asia’s ‘King Kong,’ died due to climate change

But we are smarter.
We learned how to use fire to keep ourselves warm, cook, and make steel.
Suck my ash, Gigantopithecus.

PiperPaul
Reply to  michael hart
January 6, 2016 7:58 pm

Hey, I thought Piltdown Man made Gigantopithecus extinct.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  michael hart
January 7, 2016 5:01 am

Whoa nellie. First we had to learn how to make iron.

carbon bigfoot
January 6, 2016 6:43 pm

Actually it was the loose women and the cheap gas.

fed
January 6, 2016 6:55 pm

Just ask Bubbles in Trailer Park Boys …. its a Samsquantch ……….

Alex
January 6, 2016 6:59 pm

Gigantopithecus was very delicious.

J. Philip Peterson
January 6, 2016 7:04 pm

How come National Geo and other publications can only get blurry photos of “big foot” Kind of like the blurry photos of the UFOs etc.?

jeanparisot
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
January 6, 2016 7:38 pm

Might say the same about the error bars on their climate models. Those are ‘fuzzy’ as well.

January 6, 2016 7:35 pm

Bigfoot left big carbon footprint. Caused own demise.

Russell Klier
January 6, 2016 8:01 pm

The Global Warming Nut-Scientists keep getting nuttier and nuttier…..

601nan
January 6, 2016 8:04 pm

Fair le well Gigantopethicus Albert A. Gore Jr., fair le well across river Styx.
Ha ha

Tom Judd
January 6, 2016 8:18 pm

“In the field of Anthropology, it takes more evidence than a theoretical model, a few questionable proxies (plaster casts of alleged “footprints”), and a dodgy film reel, to establish a theory as “settled science”.”
That may be true for Anthropology but a theoretical model, a few questionable proxies, and a dodgy film reel (Inconvenient Truth) are plenty good for Climatology.

tadchem
Reply to  Tom Judd
January 7, 2016 4:22 am

Touché!

dp
January 6, 2016 8:26 pm

Interesting how the message here is climate change, regardless of cause, is a hideous threat to living world. That is an example of adjusting the framework to shift the precept of climate change into the cloud of fearful terms. Own the language and you own first impressions.

Bob G
January 6, 2016 9:06 pm

Climate change is phony, at least in the past 120 years, and Bigfoot is real. I’m not kidding. Study it.

Reply to  Bob G
January 7, 2016 7:36 am

I agree- they show up in both ice cores and tree rings.

MarkW
Reply to  R2Dtoo
January 7, 2016 9:48 am

Show up in tree rings? Is that anything like those pancakes that look like Jesus?

Phil's Dad
January 6, 2016 9:16 pm

This is a light hearted thread so I’ll keep it short. The picture of the mountain gorilla reminded me of my work with the Dian Fossey organisation (in the last century). The gorillas in Uganda / Rwanda were and are threatened by war, farming and the bush meat trade – not in the least by climate. One of the many things we’ll screw up with our planet if we keep channelling all our resources into CO2 reduction.

Patrick MJD
January 6, 2016 10:29 pm

Climate change is attributed to frcing “Lucy” from the trees to stand up-right in grass ~4.5MYA. Must have been due to all that coal being burnt and gas guzzling SUV’s then eh?

Dodgy Geezer
January 7, 2016 4:07 am

….The International Business Times claims that Gigantopethicus, a huge ape which died out 100,000 years ago in China, may instead have been driven by Climate Change to cross the Bering Strait…
Er…surely the climate has remained static and unchanging until 1980? If it hasn’t, then modern warming might just be natural variation…?

mountainape5
January 7, 2016 4:10 am

Here’s a kiwi humor about bigfoot

Marcus
January 7, 2016 4:18 am

ROTFLMAO !! Stop..it hurts….

hunter
January 7, 2016 4:20 am

“Climate Change” increased UFO alien abductions as well.

MarkW
Reply to  hunter
January 7, 2016 6:25 am

If climate change can cause more meteorites to hit the earth, then surely it would cause an increase in alien visitation as well.

hunter
Reply to  MarkW
January 7, 2016 9:23 am

Not just UFO visits, but abductions of true believers to tune their chakras so they can keep their faith alive.

tadchem
January 7, 2016 4:20 am

There are some fringies who say Gigantopithecus is not extinct, but has adapted to nearly all habitats in North America. Who do you want to listen to?

emsnews
Reply to  tadchem
January 7, 2016 6:16 am

Watch them play every Sunday on TV, football thrives thanks to the sons of the Giant Apes.

Bruce Cobb
January 7, 2016 4:30 am

Bigfoot aside, the big boogeyman here is climate change. The irony is that they are talking about climate change of the cooling kind, not warming. But that’s the beauty of the Climatist ideology. Boiling it down, climate change is BAD, and we humans are causing climate change. Therefore, we need to go back to living in mud huts and caves, in the dark and cold, and eating leaves and twigs. That is our punishment, and how we can be absolved of our “climate sins”.

phaedo
January 7, 2016 4:36 am

Climate change also allowed the ancestors of the indigenous populations to migrate to the Americas; was that a bad thing?

ferdberple
Reply to  phaedo
January 7, 2016 6:30 am

was that a bad thing
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it was for the people that were already living there.
there is evidence that humans were living in the Americas at least 60k years ago, long before the invasion from Asia 15k years ago. but of course, no one bothers to dig deeper than 20k years ago, because the science is settled. and it would throw a huge money wrench into “first nations” land claims.
as though any of the people that settled the Americas are alive today. I’m still waiting for my check from France for the Norman conquest of Britain, and my check from Scandinavia for the Viking invasion before that.
In point of fact, Italy should be paying huge land claims to the UK for the Roman invasion.

Ben of Houston
Reply to  ferdberple
January 7, 2016 11:20 am

What evidence is there for people in America before the land bridge? Please do tell. If you think that it’s just “no one is looking”. That’s silly. That’s the sort of upheaval that gets you into history books.

DC Cowboy
Editor
January 7, 2016 5:06 am

So how does he know that the ‘migration’ didn’t occur in the opposite direction? That King Kong originated in NA and migrated across the Bering Straight to China?
It seems to me that for the Bering Straight to be a land bridge there would have to have been considerable ice to lock up enough water to expose a land passage to NA. Given that I would expect that it was a tad bit too cold in those areas to support King Kong’s favored diet on his ‘long march’ through Siberia and Alaska. IF he couldn’t survive the change from forest to grassland how exactly could he have survived marching over vast stretches of ice? Pure speculation of course.

ferdberple
Reply to  DC Cowboy
January 7, 2016 6:34 am

how exactly could he have survived marching over vast stretches of ice?
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just like some animals adapted to eating grass, Bigfoot adapted to eating ice. The Yeti is proof that Bigfoot did not die out in Asia.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  DC Cowboy
January 7, 2016 8:20 am

The Bering Strait is only ~100m deep now. With the water tied up in the the glacial maximum, sea-level was down 120m or so – ergo, dry land connecting Asia to North America.

RWTurner
Reply to  DC Cowboy
January 7, 2016 9:38 pm

Little known fact, gigantopithacus could fly. Here’s an artist’s recreation of what the creature may have looked likecomment image

richard
January 7, 2016 5:21 am

“may instead have been driven by ..” binned.

Berényi Péter
January 7, 2016 5:37 am

Ancestors of the indigenous populations could cross the Bering Strait to America during the Ice Age, because they had
1. fire
2. cloth
3. language
4. tools
5. fire
6. fire
Gigantopithecus had none of these and his favoured diet of forest fruit was certainly not available there.
Now, I know fire is bad, because it releases CO2, still, that was the first thing that made us human.
We could not even walk upright without it, because in the open savanna there is no other way to keep night predators at bay, no bedding in trees, that is. What is more, digestion of cooked food needs much less guts, so we could get rid of that as well, still increasing energy uptake, needed for brainwork. Neither we need huge chewing muscles any more, covering the entire head, which made room for some more brain development. We could also escape the Tropics, with no body hair to speak of, because we invented cloth and fire kept us warm while sleeping in the cold.
That’s what people waging war on fire tend to forget about, so they are left with Gigantopithecus on pristine ice, consuming imaginary forest fruit, jumping up-and-down to keep itself warm using the energy of said fruits. Hilarious.

ferdberple
January 7, 2016 6:40 am

That’s what people waging war on fire tend to forget about
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When humans first discovered fire, and used it to advance across the surface of the earth, you can be sure there were those that wanted nothing to do with fire, that said fire was evil, and that it was the greatest threat facing human beings. The ancestors of those people are still alive today. Living in the tropical jungles of the earth. Here is a picture:comment image

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  ferdberple
January 7, 2016 7:23 am

We need to get back to our roots! If we don’t, we’re doomed!

Marcus
Reply to  ferdberple
January 7, 2016 7:26 am

…Daddy ?????

John Whitman
January 7, 2016 7:32 am

According to the IBT;
“Gigantopithecus, Asia’s ‘King Kong,’ died due to climate change
The biggest ape to roam the Earth went extinct 100,000 years ago because the species was not able to adapt to just consuming savannah grass after climate change hit its favoured diet of forest fruit, according to scientists. Weighing five times as much as an adult man and standing up to three metres tall, Gigantopithecus, the closest nature ever came to producing a real King Kong, was still not invincible enough to survive drastic climate changes.”

Gigantopithecus was an early humanoid environmentalist-like species whose nature caused it to refuse adaptation and make insufficient progress when faced with change, the result was inevitable. Progress and adaption is essential in the real world.
John

John Whitman
Reply to  John Whitman
January 7, 2016 9:41 am

Oops, ‘are’ not ‘is’ essential . . . .
Well, ‘adaptation’ actual does mean the same as ‘adaption’ . . . .
John

Rick A
January 7, 2016 7:33 am

What!!!!! Climate Change 100,000 years ago. I thought only humans were responsible!

Marcus
Reply to  Rick A
January 7, 2016 7:37 am

..Dinosaur farts ??

Marcus
Reply to  Marcus
January 7, 2016 7:38 am

Lot’s of lag time !! LOL

Marcus
January 7, 2016 7:36 am

Hey, this made onto FoxNews…..but they didn’t mention any climate change !!
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4687722980001/science-explains-the-real-king-kongs-sad-demise/?intcmp=hpvid1#sp=show-clips

bjorn from sweden
January 7, 2016 7:41 am

Killed by climate change, thats code for killed by colder climate?

Logoswrench
January 7, 2016 7:51 am

In the field of anthropology. ……settled science.
Not really. “Piltdown man. ” turned out to be a pigs tooth but a whole race was built off it.
No one is immune. The difference is when Piltdown man was discovered a fraud no one demanded the skeptic be character assassinated and black balled from his field.

Phil Whittaker
Reply to  Logoswrench
January 7, 2016 12:00 pm

I think the Piltdown fossil was assembled using an ape’s jaw and fragments of a human skull. And it was so weird, so unlike anything else known, that by the time the fraud was exposed some forty years later most palaeontologists were quietly ignoring it. What was really incredible, though, was the number of scientists at the time of the ‘discovery’ who were ready to believe in it, when a little critical thinking and a few simple tests would have told them that it was a fake. To be fair, access was carefully controlled, doubters were kept away from the data, and only those who believed in its authenticity got into print. It’s comforting to know that such things could never happen in these more enlightened times.

Eugene WR Gallun
January 7, 2016 8:19 am

Sounds like monkey business to me.
Sorry, had to be said. — Eugene WR Gallun

Alan Robertson
January 7, 2016 9:07 am

We can’t blame an angrified Bigfoot for jumping up and down and causing the 24 earthquakes (4.8- 2.5 RS) in Oklahoma during the past 24 hrs, because Bigfoot doesn’t work in the oil patch. Yes, there are a couple o’ guys out there who could pass for Bigfoot, but they aren’t. Really.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Alan Robertson
January 7, 2016 11:51 am

Dang. Make that 29 quakes, now. How’s a guy supposed to take a nap in his fave chair when it keeps shakin’ him awake?

Gary Pearse
January 7, 2016 9:23 am

This zero chance scenario – several commenters expain why (no bananas along the Bering Strait)- has to have another purpose! Ah yes, climate change also means changing to cold conditions. They are hedging their bets worried that El Nino isn’t going to save their meme even it there is a slight warming in 2016. Using the International Business News for such a fanciful story is “floating a trial balloon”.
We will see more stuff about how humans are cooling the planet to dangerous levels. We will see ressurection of Ehrlich’s, Schneider’s and Holdren’s human-caused ice age stuff. Newsweek will republish its ice age cover from 1970s with the word ‘vindication’ emblazoned over it. I think the inventors of Whack-a-Moley must have got their idea from something like this. ‘Climate Change’ to adapt to whatever happens turns out to have been a timely invention.

Joel Snider
January 7, 2016 12:59 pm

97% of people who study Bigfoot for a living, believe that he’s real. In fact, they will go so far as to manufacture evidence to convince others.
A couple years ago, a guy actually got run over, while dressed up in a Bigfoot costume, pretending to be a Bigfoot that had been run over in the road.
The odd thing here is that when you fake evidence, you KNOW you’re faking evidence, and yet you still remain a true believer.
Funny thing, isn’t it?

January 7, 2016 1:48 pm

As well as Gigantopithecus driven to become Big Feet in America, some stayed home and became Yetis in the Himalayas. Others swam to Australia where they became Yowies which have not been seen for two hundred years. The search continues.

January 7, 2016 5:45 pm

Concerning apes: Koko the Gorilla has endorsed climate alarmism, according to Discovery Channel! Must read and see!

RWTurner
January 7, 2016 9:22 pm

Ape lives in subtropical SE Asia. Climate becomes dryer and food source goes away. Ape isn’t adaptable enough so they decide to walk the 10,000 miles through deserts and tundra through China, Mongolia, Kamchatka, Alaska, then south into western North America just to reach a climate that was nothing like the subtropical climate they couldn’t live without. With this logic, I bet he believes in CAGW as well.

David Walton
January 7, 2016 11:32 pm

Further proof that if you attach “climate change” to anything — no matter how goofy — you will garner attention. Today Bigfoot, tomorrow space aliens sequestered in Area 51.

Fred
January 7, 2016 11:35 pm

The assumption is Gigantopithecus never evolved, which of course is a fallacy.
Also, the “land bridge” was not frozen, it is called Beringia… and it was a grasslan steppe…
“The term Beringia was coined by the Swedish botanist Eric Hultén in 1937.[2] During the ice ages, Beringia, like most of Siberia and all of north and northeast China, was not glaciated because snowfall was very light.[3] It was a grassland steppe, including the land bridge, that stretched for hundreds of kilometres into the continents on either side. It is believed that a small human population of at most a few thousand survived the Last Glacial Maximum in Beringia, isolated from its ancestor populations in Asia for at least 5,000 years, before expanding to populate the Americas sometime after 16,500 years ago, during the Late Glacial Maximum as the American glaciers blocking the way southward melted,[4][5][6][7] but before the bridge was covered by the sea about 11,000 years BP[8]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia

AndyJ
Reply to  Fred
January 8, 2016 7:11 pm

I know I’ll probably catch flack for this, but I’ve been studying the Bigfoot issue since I was a boy.
According to the sightings, Sasquatch are omnivores. They forage for berries, fruits, tubers, and other edible plants. They hunt deer and small animals, raiding chicken coops on isolated farms or even carrying off the occasional dog. They’ve been sighted kneeling at roadsides, probably eating roadkill. If they are the descendants of Gigantopithecus, then they have diversified their diet considerably, but that is evolution in process.
But we shouldn’t bother the AGW folk with the Ice Age. They’re too busy staring in horror at a piddling miniscule warming in the last 130 years to be bothered looking at when there was a mile of ice sitting on top of New York, Toronto, Chicago, Stockholm, Berlin and London. Now THAT is climate change.

3l4tgvh9223tgu
January 8, 2016 7:13 am

Sasquatch Are People DNA sequence studies by Dr. Melba Ketchum show that the Sasquatch are a hybrid of human and an unknown primate species:
http://ncu9nc.blogspot.com/2013/09/sasquatch-are-people.html
Wood Ape Sightings: Correlations to Annual Rainfall Totals, Waterways, Human Population Densities and Black Bear Habitat Zones by Daryl Colyer & Alton Higgins
http://woodape.org/index.php/about-bigfoot/articles/67-ecological-patterns
Using Biotic Taphonomy Signature Analysis and Neoichnology Profiling to determine the identity of the carnivore taxa responsible for the deposition and mechanical mastication of three independent prey bone assemblages in the Mount St. Helen’s ecosystem of the Cascade mountain range by Aaron Mills, Gerald Mills, M. N. Townsend
https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=25BBCABF2DE517FF!108&ithint=file%2cpdf&app=WordPdf&authkey=!AOLzbmAVbvcVkIM