Count the blessings the miners gave us – often at the cost of their lives
By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley
In the week before Christmas, the last-ever shift of weary mineworkers, faces streaked with sweat and coal dirt, blinked into the gray winter twilight at Britain’s last-ever working deep coal-mine.
The last shift comes up from Kellingley
Kellingley Colliery in Yorkshire, where some of these great men had given 30 years of their lives in dark, difficult and dangerous conditions, is now closed forever. A 30-foot plug of concrete will seal the top of the shaft, the colliery sheds will be demolished and the site will be handed over to property developers.
The men of Kellingley are the latest in a long, ever-growing line of victims of the greenshirts’ war on jobs. The pit could have been kept open for several more years, but in the present campaign of hate against coal the Government decided it must close, saying the investment needed to open a new seam was not “value for money”.
When I was a lad, cutting my journalistic fangs at the Yorkshire Post, I went down Kellingley Colliery at the invitation of a friend who been a miner there. Before the clanking, echoing cage lurched downward, I had thought that perhaps I should become a mineworker. For the miners were paid about twice what journalists at the Yorkshire Post got in those days.
The pithead and winding gear
When we reached the bottom of the shaft, 2600 feet down, and the long, gray, dimly-lit gallery stretched away into the distance, the dust that hung in the air – not coal-dust, my friend hastened to explain, but rock-dust scattered everywhere to smother the coal-dust and make fatal explosions less likely – made breathing difficult.
At the coal-face
This was no picnic, and I’d only been below ground for a few minutes, and I wasn’t even doing any manual labor. Kellingley was a show pit – one of the safest, most modern, most efficiently ventilated of Britain’s 100 deep mines.
Conditions in just about every mine in Britain were considerably worse than what I experienced during my hour-long tourist trip below ground. I thought no more about becoming a miner. I wouldn’t have lasted a week.
On Friday, as the final shift at Kellingley ended, there were cheers, applause and tears. Some of the men carried lumps of coal as mementoes. The last ton of coal from the pit, which once produced 1000 tons a day, will go on display in a mining museum.
At the peak of the coal-mining boom in the 1920s, one British worker in 20 was a miner. Even after the Second World War there were still 750,000 miners underground in close to 1000 pits.
With the advent of gas-fired and nuclear-fired electricity, nearly all of the pits had already closed by 1983/4, when the miners went on strike to try to bring down the elected government of Margaret Thatcher, just as they had ended the Conservative government led by Edward Heath in 1974.
A decade after Heath’s downfall, the miners downed tools out of misplaced loyalty to the Communist leader of their union, Arthur Scargill. I had known Scargill when he used to visit Whitelocks, the 16th-century Leeds pub. He was good company, but his far-out politics would lead to the destruction of deep-mined coal in Britain.
When Scargill called the strike, the miners did not know that on 28 July 1979, a couple of months after Margaret Thatcher had become Prime Minister, he had boarded a Polish freighter at Tilbury, bound for what was then still Leningrad.
There, like Lenin before him, he boarded a sealed train to Moscow. He spent three weeks at the Patrice Lumumba University, where terrorist grunts from all over the world were trained. His tutors, realizing that he was a cut above your average dim suicide bomber, transferred him to the Lenin Institute, where the leaders of terrorist movements from the IRA to the PLO were taught how to undermine the free world.
Five months later, Scargill flew by Aeroflot to Paris, then transferred to a British Airways flight so that, when he landed at Heathrow, he would not be seen to have arrived on a Russian aircraft.
Our problem, at 10 Downing Street, was how to let the miners know of this surely relevant recent episode in his biography. In the end, the account I have given in the previous three paragraphs was published in a discreet column by Ronald Butt, the veteran columnist for The Times.
Since not many mineworkers read The Times, I got on my Ducati Hailwood Rep and rode out to a country house somewhere in England, where lived a property magnate whom I knew to be loyal to Britain and to the Prime Minister.
I chose David Hart to make contact with the miners because he could hold a friendly conversation with working people. Like me, he enjoyed their company and was at ease with them and – as importantly – they with him.
A country house somewhere in England
As I rode along the long drive to the symmetrical front of David’s Elizabethan mansion, later bought by Claudia Schiffer, he was on his tractor mowing the grass in the park. He heard the bike (you could hear a Hailwood Rep four counties away, like Aunt Diana in the hunting field) and got off his tractor. I gave him the cutting from The Times and asked him to visit every pit in Britain, get to know the mineworkers, see to it that they came across a copy of the cutting, and report their reactions directly to the Prime Minister with a daily one-page note.
David left his tractor where it was, showered, changed, grabbed his go-bag and got into his top-of-the-line Mercedes. That year he traveled 29,000 miles on his own time and at his own expense, visiting pits in England, Wales and Scotland. The miners, than whom there are none more loyal to Britain, were horrified to find that their leader was in thrall to a foreign power ill-intentioned towards the country they loved. David reported to the Prime Minister that in Leicestershire, in particular, the miners were so angry that they wanted to do the unthinkable: break the strike.
David – again at his own expense – funded the Leicestershire miners to set up the National Working Miners’ Committee, which eventually became the Union of Democratic Mineworkers. The Leicestershire miners went back to work, a trickle that, thanks to David, soon became a flood.
He paid for an ad campaign that ran for weeks in all major newspapers, saying: “Come on, Arthur, gizzaballot!”
The war room
In characteristically bombastic style, David set up a war-room in a rented suite at Claridges, London’s swankiest hotel. There, maps and papers were spread across the polished burr-walnut top of the grand piano, telephones were installed, and Personages discreetly came and went.
Eventually the Secretary of State for Industry, Peter Walker, who was far to the Left of the Prime Minister, discovered that David, not he, was running the response to the strike on behalf of the Government. In a fury, he telephoned David on one of the hotlines to the war room and yelled: “You can’t run this strike from Claridges!”
David calmly replied: “Well, Peter, perhaps you’d like to speak to Sir Ian McGregor, the Chairman of the National Coal Board, who runs all the pits? He’s with me now.”
From left: Sir Peter Walker, David Hart, Sir Ian McGregor
Without David Hart, the Communists would have won the strike. David is now merry in Heaven as he was always merry on Earth, and it is high time that his central role in bringing Scargill down and defending democracy was recognized. Our war was never against the miners: it was always and only against their Communist leaders.
Some weeks later, just before the winter set in, Scargill announced that the mineworkers would stage a demonstration in London. I was at Downing Street that afternoon. Shortly after lunch, Oliver Letwin, then a fellow member of the Policy Unit and now a Cabinet Minister, ran into the room.
“It’s so unEnglish!” he wailed. “It’s the miners – they’re rioting all over Parliament Square!” Oliver tended to talk like a tabloid headline when he was agitated.
“Not to worry,” I said, “They do that in Yorkshire every Friday night when the pubs close. They mean no harm by it.”
“That’s all very well,” said Oliver, “but they’re marching on Downing Street!”
Sure enough, yelling mineworkers had gathered at the far end of Downing Street, where in those days a few flimsy barriers were all that stood between them and us.
“Tell you what,” I said, “I’ll go and talk to them.” I reached for my bowler hat.
“But, but, but, they’ll eat you alive!” said Oliver. “Surely you’re not going to wear that ridiculous Charlie Chaplin hat!”
Monckton in a reinforced hunting bowler
“Watch and learn,” I said. I had had crowd-control training from a phlegmatic, pragmatic Yorkshireman in the Wetherby Division of the St John Ambulance Brigade.
“The most important thing if you want to approach an angry crowd and calm them down,” our instructor had said, in his matter-of-fact, down-to-earth, no-nonsense style, “is to wear a hat. Doffing it is the only way to make an unmistakably polite gesture at a distance.”
A sketch of the big black door, signed by Margaret Thatcher
It worked a treat. As I stepped out of the big black door and Jim the Door closed it behind me, the miners jeered at the apparition of a pinstripe-suited twerp complete with bowler hat and furled umbrella.
I marched steadily towards them and, when I had halved the distance, I lifted my hat to them and smiled. Instantly, the jeers turned to cheering that you could have heard as far away as Kellingley.
The St John Ambulance instructor had said, “When addressing a rowdy crowd, just talk quietly to one man at the front. Don’t worry about the others. They’ll all go quiet so they can hear what you’re saying.”
That worked a treat too. After a quick word of reassurance to the nervous policeman at the barrier, I addressed a miner at the front of the crowd. “Gentlemen,” I said, “You’ve come a long way to give your message to the Prime Minister, but she’s out today. If you’ll come across the road with me I’ll get you all a pint in the pub. It’s the least I can do. Then you can tell me what you wanted to tell her, and I’ll put a note of it in her box this evening.”
The Downing Street barrier, now replaced by cast-iron gates
The miners formed a docile crocodile as we crossed Whitehall to the pub. Their main grievance was that they were not paid enough. On this point, I agreed with them. Coal mining, as I had seen down the pit at Kellingley, is one of the hardest, most dangerous and most unpleasant jobs on Earth.
We parted as good friends, and two miners came to my farewell party in the State Apartments at Downing Street a few years later – the first miners, as far as I could discover, who had ever been inside the Prime Minister’s residence during a Conservative administration. What a curse is undue partisanship.
After the strike collapsed, the remaining pits were closed down one by one, for opencast mining was safer and cheaper and imported coal was also far less costly than our own hard-won deep-mined product.
I salute these great men who gave their all – and too often gave their lives – to power the industrial revolution. Eleven men died at Kellingley alone during its half century of operation, and that was one of Britain’s safest pits. Thousands more throughout Britain died of pneumoconiosis – dust on the lung.
In the 1950s and ’60s the particulate pollution from the coal-fired power stations of Britain used to kill an estimated 37,000 people a year through respiratory diseases. But, though it is not fashionable to say so, millions more were spared death by the many benefits of coal-fired power. The environmentalist totalitarians have yet to learn that an equation has two sides: benefit as well as cost.
What a tragic paradox it is, now that coal-fired power using pelletized, fluidized-bed and high-temperature combustion with filtering and fly-ash trapping is the cleanest source of energy per megawatt-hour delivered, that the men who made that great, life-saving revolution possible are now cast on to the tailings-heap of history by the totalitarian foolishness of the soi-disant “greens” whose generation-long refusal to allow poor nations to build cheap, clean, base-load power stations is killing tens of millions a year before their time by denying them the benefits of base-load power.
On the sad day that Britain’s last deep coal-mine closes, it is right to give thanks for the strength, the courage and the loyalty of those heroes of labor who dug the darkness underground to bring men light.
With gratitude we will remember them
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I clearly remember the both the strike bringing down Ted Heath and the associated three day week as well as the subsequent strike led by Arthur Scargill. I Certainly knew that he was a confirmed communist, but not that he had spent time in Moscow fraternizing with “terrorists” and presumably being taught how to usurp our elected government. I remember my relief when Scargill was finally defeated. I could never reconcile my views with the aims and methods of the likes of Gormley and subsequently Scargill.
And now we have Russia’s leader endorsing the far right in the US. What is the world coming to?
Simon,
What that means is that Obama is so far to the left even Putin is disgusted with him.
I must say this is a well written piece which has unearthed some material of which I was unaware. I hope Richard Courtney comes along, as he might have a different perspective on this.
tony
DB
What is means…. is that in the political world when you go hard out to the left you do full circle and pop up on the right. And didn’t Trump love it. He will take praise from anywhere he can, even an ego (communist or not) like Putin. And if you think Obama is hard left in the world of politics it shows you really have no idea. Granted he is more concerned with social issues than the average president, but in the global picture???
Heh, Moscow, ID is a place that you don’t see referenced very often, but I did my geology field camp there (at the University of Idaho) back in…oh, the last century. Nice place, really enjoyed it.
I just love that picture of Lord M of B in his Bowler.
I’m having it engraved on my chest as we speak Christopher.
Thanks for that picture of what a proper English man should look like.
G
Simon,
…when you go hard out to the left you do full circle and pop up on the right.
No you do not. Unless you use european definition of far right that is. Far left is communism, european far right is fash*sm, which is really a very nationalistic communism.
People like Putin have great many reasons to meddle in politics of their enemy state, and all of those reasons are not designed to help them in any way shape and form.
Udar
“People like Putin have great many reasons to meddle in politics of their enemy state, and all of those reasons are not designed to help them in any way shape and form.”
You do have to wonder don’t you, why a guy like him is backing Trump. I mean it really doesn’t add up…. unless you are Trump, then it is just boosting his ego, something he enjoys.
Simon,
You do have to wonder don’t you, why a guy like him is backing Trump
Not really, you don’t.
Putin is a KGB – and once a KGB, always a KGB. He plays games. He is good at them.
He could endorse Tramp just so people like you would use it against him (Trump, that is). Or he might genuinely respect him (yeah, right). Or he believes that Trump will win presidency and plays to that. Or whatever. I see nothing in that endorsement, and I don’t understand why you see anything in it at all.
I mean it really doesn’t add up…. unless you are Trump
Do you actually believe Trump asked Putin for it?
“I mean it really doesn’t add up…. unless you are Trump
Do you actually believe Trump asked Putin for it?”
Absolutely not. Trump is not a politician he is a businessman. Big difference. Trump would miss the subtleties of the higher level complexities of relationships like this, which is why he will never make it to the top job.
@Simon, 9:30 am
Trump is not a politician he is a businessman. Big difference. Trump would miss the subtleties of the higher level complexities of relationships like this,
What do you think is the tool of the trade of a big-business man if not human relationships? At that level, everything is a “People Problem.”
Did Trump deliberately ask, hint, compliment, or schmooze for a Putin “endorsement”? I don’t know. But businessmen like him are trained in asking for the sale. Make a deal that helps all parties. Get to Yes.
I’m not a fan of Trump. But I don’t think he misses much that is important in the moment.
Simon,
Like libs everywhere, you’re terrified of Trump. That is obvious: just observe who is under constant attack by the Left. That is who they’re worried about. They hardly ever attack Jeb Bush, do they? In fact, they promote him, knowing he would be a sure loser.
And how about Obama’s HE-RO? Here he is, giving advice that Obama is taking:
http://36.media.tumblr.com/dc34811e2de39a87e7308d702bcbf4f9/tumblr_nz0155DTCV1rhnukoo1_500.jpg
Every act of terror by Islamists (which means almost all of them) is used to further control the U.S. population, by being turned into a fake ‘gun control’ crisis. Islamic terror is being used to push Obama’s agenda of confiscating guns from all law abiding citizens.
Notice that the Islamic terrorists who have declared war on America never seem to attack in places where Americans can legally carry firearms. It’s just another example of Obama’s maxim: “Never let a good crisis go to waste.”
Very cynical, no? But ‘Cynical’ appears to be Obama’s middle name… one of them, at least.
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(Note: “Buster Brown” is the latest fake screen name for ‘David Socrates’, ‘Brian G Valentine’, ‘Joel D. Jackson’, ‘beckleybud’, ‘Edward Richardson’, ‘H Grouse’, and about twenty others. The same person is also an identity thief who has stolen legitimate commenters’ names. Therefore, all the time and effort he spent on posting 300 comments under the fake “BusterBrown” name is wasted, because I am deleting them wholesale. ~mod.)
This is a science site, Bluster. But it’s not exclusively a science site. Proof: they let a pseudo-science commenter like you post here.
But I have to say, it’s good for the ego to have my own personal entourage, who closely bird-dogs all my comments and saves them for re-posting.
That’s what happens when you don’t have a life, chihuahua.
Udar,
regarding Communism and Fascism, the map of political ideologies is Circular not linear.
At one point you have Liberty, and Authoritarianism is 180 degrees opposite. Which ever route you take around the circle, whether it be left or right, you will eventually go from Liberty to its exact opposite.
Fanakapan:
regarding Communism and Fascism, the map of political ideologies is Circular not linear.
Definitions are important. Words are important. By your definitions, words like Liberty and Authoritarian are completely disconnected from concepts of Right and Left. Right and Left has nothing to do with either liberty or totalitarianism. You can have Conservatives that are essentially socialists etc. That is European system.
Here in US, Right stands for Individual Freedom and Left stands for Government control. For example, white supremacists in Europe would be called ultra-right. In US, white supremacists are tiny fringe that is not called ultra-right. In US, the ultra-right are people like Tea Partiers. By that definition, Right and Left are not circular at all. Since we talking about Trump, a US businessman and US political system, my method is appropriate.
Well fascinating politically, but the end of UK coal is simply on account of it being too expensive to mine at the sort of safety standards we have come to demand.
Green issues may see the end of coal fired power stations, true, but mining itself in the UK is simply totally uneconomic compared with strip mining in other nations.
It is also not going anywhere. Sat there, safely underground waiting for a time when the economics turn the other way.
Yes!
Lord Monckton’s article brought to mind a grim picture of Samson letting Delilah cut his hair.
Nevertheless… that hair grew…. and though he was blinded by the Philistines…. and though he died making it happen…. in the end….
Samson won.
And where in the world can you go to find some good Philistine food? Anyone listened to any good Philistine music lately?
So, too, you AGW Ozymandiases, before very long it will be said of YOU: “Round the decay of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare, the lone and level sands stretch far away.” (Shelley)
#(:))
Janice Moore:-
I was about to ask what on earth you were talking about but then I remembered this:-
http://thequietus.com/articles/04378-25-years-on-terry-hall-remembering-the-colourfield-s-virgins-philistines
There you are – “Philistine music”. Good stuff too (imo of course!).
“but mining itself in the UK is simply totally uneconomic compared with strip mining in other nations.” While that may be true, it is still a good opportunity for the good lord to spin a bit of hate against the “greenies.” All lapped up by the rabid right.
Funny how leftists hate everybody. Europe, the only place in the world where socialists are considered conservative.
Good point. Now tell us that wind and solar are themselves competitive against strip-mined coal.
“Now tell us that wind and solar are themselves competitive against strip-mined coal.” Well they are certainly not cheaper in the short term, and it depends if you include long term damage as a cost?
“but mining itself in the UK is simply totally uneconomic compared with strip mining in other nations {AT PRESENT}.”
England coal may be more expensive than other nations, but it still much less expensive than solar and wind in producing energy, which the government is forcing down everyone’s throat at tremendous expense. So for economic reasons, if I were you, I would dump solar and wind first.
Oh wait it is not about inexpensive energy to grow civilization, maintain middle class standards of living and help people to rise out of poverty, No, instead it is about saving the planet from the imaginary CO2 monster.
Well carry on then. You may even meet Don Quixote on your way to the windmill.
Simon, since there is no long term damage, why do you care?
I, a southern counties softy, went down a coal-mine for instructional purposes. Met a young man, whites of eyes and teeth visible. Brightly I said “this is my first time down a mine!” He replied, “Wish ter fook that were true of me”. Such brave men.
Wow.
I have read all these remarks for several months now and the big consolation in my thinking is that when the human race comes back to its senses all these mines for coal, wells for oil and all other fossil fuels are still there for the taking and will be when needed. The greenies can stop them but not destroy them. They are whistling in the wind.
The cost of opening up an old mine is probably more than actually sinking a new shaft. These mines will never have humans down them again. At best they might be used to make gas with from the coal in place there.
I was thinking that maybe if you could touch a match to them, and feed them some air, you could make come true the prediction that kids would grow up not knowing what snow is.
g
Well the British socialists are flying high at this moment in history and the British people will be the losers.
“Well the British socialists are flying high at this moment in history […]”
I’m not sure just how you have come to that, rather remarkable, conclusion.
The British socialists are in some disarray currently. Hard left fighting softer left and a leader who doesn’t quite know where he should put his weight if he doesn’t want the record for shortest office holder ever. Hardly “flying high”.
I can only imagine that you are not British and have possibly read what passes for British MSM in the forlorn hope that they would keep you up to date on events here in blighty. Nah.
Green War on Jobs
It is a shame that the skeptical side has not done a better job of warning the common people that the greens intend to see them unemployed, cold, and shivering in the dark.
Strange… the headline reads “Green war on jobs”, yet in the article you state the historical reality that “After the strike collapsed, the remaining pits were closed down one by one, for opencast mining was safer and cheaper and imported coal was also far less costly than our own hard-won deep-mined product”. The strike was about protecting jobs from those imports – not about changing the government, or any other form of politics.
I hope your climate science, which I have up to now read and appreciated, is better based than this political drivel.
In response to Les, had it not been for the war on coal some of the pits, specifically including Kellingley, would have remained viable. And, if you don’t like the insight into political history that the piece reveals, never mind: others will appreciate it.
That is not a substantive answer. Yes, the piece offers some interesting historical detail, but on the main point, it offers distortion. The government had announced plans to close down the mines, and the miners fought to keep their jobs. For an operative of said government now to bewail the closing of the last remnants and blame the “greenshirts” for it seems a tad disingenuous.
Mr Palmer is not correct. Some of the most uneconomic pits were indeed due to close – a policy that governments of both parties had pursued. But the strike regrettably accelerated the closures. Kellingley, even at today’s low coal prices, could have remained viable were it not for the current anti-coal climate.
Lord Monckton, there is no contradiction between your statement and mine. Yes, the strike may ultimately have accelerated the mine closures, but it nevertheless was motivated by averting the closures that the government had planned.
It was Wilson who closed more pits than Thatcher ever did yet she still attracts hate and blame.
The strike wasn’t about protecting jobs. Labour closed down more pits than Thatcher did.
A non-sequitur.
Michael Palmer: it is not. We are endlessly informed that the Conservatives closed all the mines but it was Labour who closed many more.
From the observation that Labour closed down more pits than the Thatcher government did, it does not follow that the strike was not about protecting jobs. That is what I meant with “non sequitur.”
The miners’ strike was not about protecting jobs, or it would have occurred under Labour governments, which closed more pits than the Tories. It was about destroying rhe elected government of Margaret Thatcher. Fortunately, it failed. Thatcher, Reagan and John Paul II went on to bring Soviet Communism down. The world is a better place now that it is gone.
More creative history. The Soviet Union collapsed like a rotten tooth that bites down on a bone. Thatcher did not even supply the bone. The single person that far and away deserves the most credit for this is none other than Mikhail Gorbachev. He seems to agree:
“We could only solve our problems by cooperating with other countries. It would have been paradoxical not to cooperate. And therefore we needed to put an end to the Iron Curtain. ”
…
“Without perestroika, the cold war simply would not have ended.”
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There you have it in a nutshell.
Lord Monckton, I greatly appreciate your entertaining and informative contributions to the debunkment of the silly global warming scare, but a reliable source on matters of history you are not. For that, you are too much of a romantic, too much enamoured of heroic sagas.
Funny how the communists of the time were citing the Soviet Union as the wave of the future. Those same communists are now claiming that everybody know that the Soviet Union was rotten to the core and collapsed all on it’s own.
Sorry dude, it’s you who have been trying to rewrite history.
Even the Soviets have admitted that their attempts to match Reagan’s defense build up bankrupted them. They also admit that the final straw was when Poland decided it would no longer prevent East German’s from using Polish territory to go around the Soviet blockades on the East/West German border.
Strange… the headline reads “Green war on jobs”, yet in the article you state the historical reality that “After the strike collapsed, the remaining pits were closed down one by one, for opencast mining was safer and cheaper and imported coal was also far less costly than our own hard-won deep-mined product”. The strike was about protecting jobs from those imports – not about changing the government, or any other form of politics.
I hope your climate science, which I have up to now read and appreciated, is better based than this political drivel.
I think that there is something that both you and M. Palmer miss in all of this. At the time, HMG could shut down pits because this was back in the good old days of socialism. HMG owned the pits back then.
Not true today.
I remember a Yorkshire (Carpet) ‘Mill’ owner (yes there are still some in operation) back in the late 80’s telling me just how glad he was that he could now buy Coal from wherever he wished. He retailed the story that Australian Coal (just about as far from Britain as one could get) was cleaner, cheaper and arrived on time. He had grown up having to obtain Coal from our semi communist system (back then) that quite often, forget quality, often didn’t even turn up (from 30 miles away!).
My point here is to remind some people that, back in the ‘Scargill’ years, Britain was a very different place.
Without coal, how are they going to make steel?
Because of high energy costs, brought about by the UK energy policy, there is now talk of subsiding UK steel.
The UK has little in the way of a steel industry. Most heavy industry has for a variety of reasons priced itself out of the market, but the UK energy policy because it is has hiked up energy prices and because it has distorted what would be a level playing field now has to subsidise most related activities.
So there has to be subsidies for steel and aluminium.
There has to be subsidies for wind, solar, bio-mass and diesel STOR generation.
There has to be subsidies for nuclear powered generation.
And to cap it all, there has to be subsidies for gas powered generation because no one wants to build gas power generators because the national grid has to take renewables when available, and this means that gas powered generation can only be sold to the grid when renewables are not working. That is about 75% of the time since renewables only work for about 25% of the time. But the problem is that it is not profitable to run a business when you can only sell your product for 75% of the time. The profit in a business is made in the last 15% (or so) of sales, so gas powered generators are not profitable.
In the last few months the UK government put out a tender for some gas powered generators and no one bid. Not a single tender was submitted!
This is why the UK faces imminent brown outs, and the government is having to pay energy intensive industries to stop work and stop using energy when grid reserves become critical. So that has a big impact on the country’s GDP. Because of high energy costs and unreliable energy, UK manufacturing has to down tools at expense to the tax payer.
Only a politician could make up such a world, and get us in such a mess.
The UK has no need for a heavy industrialised steel industry. There is so much recycling of steel that there is no need for blast furnaces. The UK has progressed onwards to carrying out high tech manufacturing using steel. So now we do high precision stuff rather than churn out tons of raw steel.
An economist talks about the UK’s steel industry here – Tim Worstall.
Government Planned economies are so terrific and have such a great history of success. Let’s all do it that way, Not.
sadbutmadlad says:
“There is so much recycling of steel that there is no need for blast furnaces. ”
http://wmnorthwest.com/educational/gif/steel1.gif
With the politicians (of both Tory and Labour) planning to end gas use by 2030 and close any gas power station that doesn’t use ‘carbon capture’ why would anybody bid to build new gas generation plant that will have a life of barely 10 years once planning approval and construction are taken into account? A reality check of blackouts, workers laid off, falling tax revenue (that will shake Osborne) and angry businesses is the only way.
sadbutmadlad:
You said: “The UK has no need for a heavy industrialised steel industry.”
I am not quite sure what you meant: (1) the UK economy has no need for steel production as a component; (2) the UK has no need for any industry based on steel; (3) the UK can get all the steel it needs by recycling.
Steel is the single most useful material humans have ever developed. After concrete it is the second most used manufactured material by weight. It can be made in a wide range of hardnesses and alloyed with other metals to achieve various specialty properties. If we do not have steel, we are living in the 19th century, and probably in the first half of the 19th century at that. Last year the world made 1,665 million tonnes steel of which approximately 70% was new steel. Each tonne of new steel requires about 770 kg. of coal using the Basic Oxygen Furnace method, which has universally replaced the older Bessemer process.
If your meaning was (1) above, then you may be right depending on a bunch of factors. If the UK economy can provide higher skilled jobs working with steel products instead of producing raw steel, that would follow the pattern of advancing industrial economies. It is one of the many blessings of industrial civilization that more people can earn a quality living using their knowledge and skill rather than the strength of their arms and back.
If your meaning was (2) above, the world disagrees with you in a big way. The UK and every other developed economy needs steel, which somebody is going to make using coal. Until we develop something better, steel will be required to maintain and advance industrial civilization. No steel, no wind turbine towers.
If your meaning was (3) above, you are also wrong, as shown by the production figures I cited. Steel used for automobiles is not available for recycling for 7-15 years. Construction steel has a lifecycle of 40-70 years. Developing economies will demand new steel far in excess of what recycling can provide. Total world steel demand last year was over three times what recycling alone could satisfy. Steel is already heavily recycled and there is not enough margin for improvement to alter the fact that increasing amounts of new steel will be required each year to satisfy demand.
Not really; academics WILL invent a world in which millions perish, as they, the academics pursue their fantasy , heaven on earth ideology.
The politicians, in an effort to appear more intelligent, more informed, more enlightened, SUPERIOR to the unwashed masses, listen to and carry out the fantastical, idiotic, stupid ideas generated by academics.
The result is misery for the masses.
But for the academics, this is a desired result; for they have contempt for the “uneducated” and “inferior” masses.
They will buy the stock from someone who can make it cheaper.
Without coal fired power stations,
how are they going to make cement
and build houses or even surface roads ?
“The UK’s biggest projects are facing a shortage of concrete due to the dwindling availability of a key material. Readymix incorporating fly ash or ground-granulated blast furnace slag (GGBS) is commonly used on most major civil engineering schemes, including Crossrail and the Thames Tideway, chiefly because of its strong technical and environmental credentials.
But supplies of fly ash have fallen recently due to the decline in use of coal by power plants. Cemex technical director Steve Crompton said: “Fly ash is obviously a by-product of coal-fired power stations, but they have been switching to biomass or to gas – so as a result there is less coal being burned, and less fly ash….”
http://www.newcivilengineer.com/concrete-shortage-looms-for-major-projects/8666481.article
According to the Coal Ash Association, these are its main uses today.
(approximately in order of decreasing importance):
Concrete production, as a substitute material for Portland cement and sand
Embankments and other structural fills (usually for road construction)
Grout and Flowable fill production
Waste stabilization and solidification
Cement clinkers production – (as a substitute material for clay)
Mine reclamation
Stabilization of soft soils
Road subbase construction
As Aggregate substitute material (e.g. for brick production)
Mineral filler in asphaltic concrete
Agricultural uses: soil amendment, fertilizer, cattle feeders,
soil stabilization in stock feed yards, and agricultural stakes
Loose application on rivers to melt ice
Loose application on roads and parking lots for ice control
Other applications include cosmetics, toothpaste, kitchen counter tops, floor and ceiling tiles, bowling balls, flotation devices, stucco, utensils, tool handles, picture frames, auto bodies and boat hulls, cellular concrete, geopolymers, roofing tiles, roofing granules, decking, fireplace mantles, cinder block, PVC pipe, Structural Insulated Panels, house siding and trim, running tracks, blasting grit, recycled plastic lumber, utility poles and crossarms, railway sleepers, highway sound barriers, marine pilings, doors, window frames,
scaffolding, sign posts, crypts, columns, railroad ties, vinyl flooring, paving stones, shower stalls, garage doors, park benches, landscape timbers, planters, pallet blocks, molding, mail boxes, artificial reef, binding agent, paints and undercoatings, metal castings, and filler in wood and plastic products.
That’s a BIG BLOW to multiple sectors of
manufacturing and infrastructure. How do
Governments think they will be able to make
those things with no coal fired power stations ?
The closure of Kellingly Colliery is the signal the Britain has lost its way, along with most of Western Europe, and The United States of America. When all the above mentioned products of the coal ash industry are no
longer made in Britain, and must be imported from Germany or Poland. How will the current Conservative Government Fools explain this to their Electorate, that they threw away Britain’s industry in a moment of caprice, a green whim, made up by Labour Party Buffoon, Ed Miliband, and with policies put in place by Liberal Democrat Ex-MPs whom the UK Electorate have rejected at the last General Election?
How many millions will be laid off work in the UK subsequent to the closure of coal in Britain, and won’t this lead to increasing resentment towards foreign immigrants, and civil unrest as a result of those pressures ?
We shall see ….
Seems America has alot to “sell” if you need it.
https://www.acaa-usa.org/About-Coal-Ash/CCP-FAQs
Knute wrote … “Seems America has alot ”
….. but not for long under Obama’s so-called “Clean Power Plan”
where it won’t just be electricity prices that will necessarily skyrocket,
but all these produces mentioned above. Remember that the USA has
already closed 1000 coal fired plants, and of course why do you think that
China are building new coal fired plants..
… clue : it isn’t just for the electricity !
Chinese paint, or plastic pipes anybody ?
wallboards or roofing tiles anybody else ?
virtually anything else on that “Products” list above,
and they are at a fraction of UK/EU/USA Prices ! ! !
China (Mainland) › paint Found 1,548,426 Results
http://www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/CN/paint.html
China (Mainland) › plastic pipe Found 536,758 Results
http://www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/CN/plastic%20pipe.html
China (Mainland) › wallboard Found 14,863 Results
http://www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/CN/wallboard.html
China (Mainland) › roof tiles Found 283,496 Results
http://www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/CN/roof%20tiles.html
…… and so on …. did you see those prices ?!?!?
Looks like the USA will not be selling much of these products at all,
if it can even make them in the future at all. No politicians,have even
considered this when they are pontificating about CO2 and their BULL !
The arch enemy of Western Democracies (Maurice Strong)
is now dead, having lived high on the hog these past several
years as a guest of the Chinese, when he and UNEP and
the UNIPCC were spouting all this climate garbagem and cutting
down on coal part of HIS solution (except in China of course).
Now China has all this stuff that we used to make ourselves.
It isn’t just the manufacturing that’s been exported abroad,
but all of those UK/EU/USA manufacturing jobs too !!!!
We need Coal Fired Power Stations in the West,
and they are NOT just for Electricity,,,,, Geddit ?
Are you listening any Politicians in here ?
Please !
Hmmm, I’m not a fan of the greenie zombie power but I’ll have to differ with you on “available coal ash supply”. We easily produced more than we consumed for decades. IF it does become a more valued resource, well have plenty for sale for the foreseeable future.
Sadly Knute, what these industries need is fresh dry anhydrous product in most cases, Such dry powder does not store easily, in open slag heaps, for the very reasons why it is used in cement, and cement replacement products, it reacts and sets rock hard, mostly due to ferric content. Look around you, and you will see where much of it went; into buildings and road and bridges mostly, but also in all those other products mentioned in the list above.
This is the issue with people “guessing” that there will be enough & etc.
Did you even read that article at New Civil Engineer ?
I did, thanks C3.
It’s a lovely filler material.
Wet fly ash gravity drains very easily when worked with a dozer.
Cooked sand that cools into tiny ball bearings.
The article panics where no panic is needed, unless they literally don’t have the stuff.
Plenty in the States though.
Perhaps I should go invest in one of the numerous landfills that have it.
wet fly-ash reacts and sets rock hard
actually the composition of most fly-ash
from US coals contains a high proportion
of calcium oxide, as much as one fifth, as
well as aluminium, iron, silicon, and other
oxides and suphates.
Such mixture is self setting, Once it sets,
it is of no further use to manufacture
products, such as I have described.
Yes it could be “mined” from such sites
as you mention, but it would need to be
reprocessed in a furnace once again to
reduce the content once more.This would
of course cost real money and more energy,
making such products much more expensive
than if using fresh ash from power stations,
Naturally such a process would be energy negative,
instead of generating electricity, as at present in a
coal fired power station. You say there is no need for
panic, but there is already a shortage of fresh fly-ash,
and especially in Europe, and particularly in the UK,
which country this article was about. Even if excess
fresh fly-ash were available for export, mining, trucking,
handling, and shipping isn’t free. I think you fail to
understand how serious this is, especially for the UK.
ya mean like this stuff right here …
http://charah.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/flyash.jpg
flyash alone will not set up.
it can be used as a filler or even as a compacted base, but you have to blend with cement to make it harden.
i hope it does become a highly desired commodity.
lots of it to go around.
Re: above image of waste heaps …
It is important to realize that there are two basic classes
of fly-ash. Class C which is the more useful in the building
industry, and which contains large amounts of calcium oxide
and quantities of other minerals which closely resemble the
constituents of pozzolanic materials originally used by the
Romans, though they obtained such materials from volcanic
sources, and mixed this with slaked lime to create concrete.
Without knowing the chemical composition of what we are
looking at in that photo above, we don’t know if this might
not be class F fly-ash which can contain almost no calcium
oxide at all, and thus is not only less useful in terms of a
self setting cement replacement, but also less useful for
manufacture of other products which rely on a high calcium
content. The company on whose website the above image
appears, trades in both types of fly-ash, and indeed is
directly involved in landscaping and land reclaimation,
and so not as much of the ash which they “dispose” of
does go to mineable landfill as you might imagine.
Again, depending on the lack of iron oxide and iron
suphide content, it is possible to slake the fly ash,
and it will remain transportable and workable until
it dries out, when the calcium hyrodoxide will combine
with CO2 gradually hardening, as it is converted into
calcium carbonate. The calcium hydroxide will remain
unreacted so long as it is kept wet, and so long as any iron
compounds are insufficient to create appreciable reactions
of a pozzolanic nature. Not only that, but even class C ash
may be kept in a wet state until use, if to be used for some
construction purposes, where it is intended to eventually
go hard, such as in concrete or building blocks, roof tiles,
and so on. Then a quantity of pozzolanic hardener such
as sodium sulphate, or calcium chloride can be added.
The bottom line is that what you see in that picture is
not the end product, but we don’t know exactly what we
are looking at, except that it is labelled flyash, and it
looks wet,
Of course the chemistry is far more complex than I have
simply described, and during the hydration process,
fly ash also chemically reacts the calcium hydroxide
forming calcium silicate hydrate and calcium aluminate,
forming a “geopolymer”, the exact plasticity and matric being
highly dependent upon the ratio of aluminium to silicon compounds.
For instance see this paper on the chemistry of class F flyash :
http://sts.bwk.tue.nl/josbrouwers/publications/Conference12.pdf
Suffice to say that there are very real problems with storage
over long periods of time, if the plan is to use the product for
building purposes eventually. Once the reactions described in
that paper of class F fly-ash occur, then they are not reversible
without huge effort and cost, and probably costlier than mining
fresh virgin materials.
By all means “invest” in a rock solid reacted landfill if you so wish,
but it won’t be any future use for making building blocks, or roofing
tiles, toothpaste, PVC wire insulation, water and sewage pipes,
or for ocean piles, fishing floats and buoys, reinforced concrete
beams, house-bricks, wall-boards and all that stuff.
Still this has been a useful discussion, which does expose the
fact that this once plentiful, and indeed so plentiful that it was
once a “waste problem”, is now dwindling to dangerously low
levels in some countries like the UK, and with Obama’s crazy
clean power plan the USA will not be far behind. When the
source of supply shuts down, then we must go back to the
old methods of mining grinding and kilning rocks to make
cement clinker, which is further processed to make so-called
ordinary portland cement. This is costly and would make most
large scale building projects perhaps twice as expensive
in materials costs alone, compared with fly-ash based
cement replacement and geopolymer products.
We found uses for the fly-ash when it was cheap and abundant
which priced out and replaced alternatives that we once used,
and now that it is becoming in short supply, those original
industries that supplied the old style products are no longer
there to take up any slack. Fly-ash had become part of a much
larger holistic system, and now it cannot easily be replaced
without incurring significant costs. None of this was even
considered by these UNIPCC and UNEP people who have
imposed the daft regulations which could cause the imminent
demise of these vital industries across the entire West.
Still if we placed a moratorium on any further coal fired
power station closures, and even reversed those so-called
biomass conversions back to pulverized coal, then we may
still be able to draw back from the precipice that beckons.
Those interested in more details of miners’ lives in the 30’s should read George Orwell’s “The Road to Wigan Pier.” In the first part of the book he describes the brutal underground work and abysmal aboveground living conditions in vivid detail. In the second part, although an avowed socialist in theory, he trashes the reality of socialism and socialists unmercifully.
Mining is a very, very tough and dangerous job; no doubt about it.
But one cannot compare mining conditions today with those extant in the 1930s.
Yes, indeed this is a good historical record,
and readers might wish to see this analysis video,
where in section 2, “Coal, Miners, and British Society”
is discussed in detail [note punctuation].
This video is a Podcast examining the book
The Road to Wigan Pier
for the Honors tutorial, HON 341 –
George Orwell & Twentieth Century Political Life
taught by Professor Rob Glover in the
Honors College at the University of Maine.
Professor Glover has some other tutorials on
the other works of George Orwell (Eric Blair),
We are grateful that the University of Maine
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One of the most profound compositions I have ever read.
The quality of the Lord’s remembrances : suicide bombing was a hit in Moscow in 1979. Any cite?
What are you babbling about?
The author makes no claims about bombings in Moscow in 1979.
Now, you would not be attempting to create a strawman argument, now would you? We take a pretty dim view of these kind of things around here, you know.
What is with this “any cite?” garbage. WHAT! Do I Look Like Your Librarian? I Am Not Your Librarian!
As far as the Soviet Union and terrorists goes, The USSR and PLO working together even has it’s own Wikipedia(!) page. If you only thought to look there. No link, find it yourself.
You have misread the article – the suicide bombers were being trained at the Patrice Lumumba University, not bombing there.
Suicide bombings were not fashionable back then, and even if they had been, this does not sound like the kind of thing good old Leonid B would have approved. Lord M is making it up as he goes along.
Thank you, Mr Palmer, I noticed a long time ago that most people who frequent this blog can’t read and have a very feeble grasp of history. It is interesting to watch how one of the higher ups (the .1%) despise the proles, and feel so proud about it.
François
I am amazed at how a writer can use so few words, yet be so completely dead wrong in every one of them.
You apparent disparaging claims against Monckton are wrong: He is the one sympathetic to the workers in the pits who have been sacrificed on the pitchforks and crosses of the self-called “green power” demands BY the self-serving elites who despise those “workers” who are now fired and thrown on the dole.
Further, the readers and writers here are the one who DO “read history” and “remember history” – as opposed to the elites who work very, very hard to “re-write history” to fit their prejudices and hatred.
LOL
IanW 0858: You have misread the article.
Francois 0948: I noticed a long time ago that most people who frequent this blog can’t read.
To: R.A. Cook
From: Francois
Here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/12/21/green-war-on-jobs-britains-last-deep-coal-mine-closes/comment-page-1/#comment-2103809
Michael Palmer,
Suicide bombings…does not sound like the kind of thing good old Leonid B would have approved.
Oh yes, he was real humanitarian, that good old Leonid.
FYI, Your good old Leonid B approved of great many things, among them assassinations of leaders of government and brutal invasion with great many people killed(see Afganistan as one of the examples). Or death penalty for such little things as having too much foreign currency, as another example.
University of Patrice Lumumba was used to train terrorists (sorry, revolutionaries), so I am not sure what are you objecting to. It is you who making things up, not Lord M.
Udar — my objection was directly at suicide methods as a preferred method of Soviet warfare. Nowhere did I say that the Soviet Union shunned terrorism or guerilla warfare in general. Since it wasn’t obvious to you – my reference to “good, old Leonid” was sarcastic.
Michael Palmer,
The fact of using that particular “institution of learning” by USSR to export revolution around the world is not in dispute, and you appears to agree with me on that.
While suicide bombing wasn’t the preferred method, there was absolutely nothing that good old gensec wouldn’t approve of, which is also not in dispute, I hope.
So, what is your beef with Lord M then? That he is not keeping exactly to the letter of the period?
In fact both IRA and PLO terrorists often blew themselves up.
Not always on purpose
My grandfather died in a NE Pennsylvania mine cave-in in the 30s before I was born, and my father developed asthma as a mine worker. Also he was kicked by a mule which caused him life-long issues. GOD rest their souls as well as their global kindred spirits.
+ 1
Men of steel.
May they rest in peace.
Whilst no democratically elected government should be held to ransom by the Unions, and whilst Scargill had a political agenda of his own, and did not care about the workers, all of this could have been better handled. In fact, much better handled.
At the end of the day, most of the people affected were hardworking and decent people. Whole communities were decimated. Of course, there were economic realities that meant that the future of coal had to be cut back, but it should have been staged, over decades, and those mines that were economic should have been kept.
The problem was that this was a particularly bad era for industrial relations, and the UK lost its car industry, ship building industry, and most of its heavy industry, by the pig headedness of Unions, Management and Government. Everyone was short sighted, and the country is now paying a heavy price with its service led economy. The UK has been running a huge negative balance of trade for several decades, and that is not sustainable long term. A country needs to earn money, and it is only the financial service sector, and a small amount of manufacturing that brings in the money that everyone relies upon.
Indeed a recipe for softies.
Earn money? Money can be made by printing press. The creation of Wealth is what is needed.
There is a failure among the STEM-illiterate population (into which all Social Justice Warriors and other “Liberal” fascist progtards unfailingly fall) to appreciate the “sunk capital” represented by the technological advances in petrochemicals fuels utilization for the generation of power. In the broad sense, these technologies are transferable to national economies all over the planet, barred only by governmental obstruction in those jurisdictions.
In short, it’s really raining soup out there, and those Watermelon bastids are bent upon knocking even teaspoons out of the hands of their most desperately starving neighbors.
How does such arrant misanthropy take seed and fester within what we’ll call the “minds” of our leftards?
Affluenza run amook..
They can’t understand capital formation or capitalism in general, so I guess we shouldn’t expect them to understand the concept of sunk capital.
I once argued in a Grist.com comment thread that the climate alarmism movement (community) was misanthropic, generally. Those poor bleeding hearts simply could not understand what I was talking about. They didn’t FEEL misanthropic. They were only angry that people were using fossil fuels and emitting CO2.
God how I sometimes despair at our educational systems.
I’ve lost track of the number of socialists I have debated who argue that the cost of a product should be nothing more than the cost of the raw materials used in it. That is, if there is 10 cents worth of flour in a loaf of bread, as far as they are concerned, you are stealing from the masses if you sell that loaf for more than 10 cents.
MarkW,
How do they explain their pay (assuming they work for a living)?
Marxists may have desired to spread their revolution through terrorism and economic disruption (nowadays strikes have been replaced by the war against so-called climate change) but there is another strategy which is also still very much in use. This strategy involves undermining the cultural norms of society. It emanates from what is known as the Frankfurt School. If you look at what the Frankfurt School proposed it is frightening how much of it has already been implemented.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=552
http://www.whale.to/c/frankfurt_school1.html
Thanks Alba
Great link on the Frankfurt school.
I saved it for future reference.
Unfortunately not. They will die of cold in energy poverty with thousands of others every winter month. When the number reached 5000 above normal one cold March 2013, the deaths went totally unremarked apart from one article in the Telegraph. Not a single MP was sufficiently concerned to even just note it in Parliament. The ‘greens’ are Malthusians they celebrate these deaths as a slow cure to the human cancer on the Earth. It is a mistake to believe that they have the same civilized values as you do.
It is sad for me given my ancestry for my great great great grandfather and his son were coal miners in Lancashire and Yorkshire.
+1
Be proud. You come from good stock.
A fascinating article – but was it not the case that it was the Nottinghamshire miners, not Leicestershire ones, who led the resistance to Scargill’s strike?
Leicestershire too.
I just don’t understand this war on fossil fuel. Maybe I’m not that bright, can someone explain why the lefties developed this hate of fossil fuel? It seems like their thoughts are “cut off your whole hand if you have a broken fingernail” kind-of logic.
greenliness is next to godliness
in their minds it makes them morally superior and you cant possibly identify because you don’t possess the vision they do.
The origins of the soi-distant greens’ war on fossil fuels lie in te KGB’s arremots to undermine the West by interfering with its energy supplies. They knew the Industrial Revolution had been built on coal. They knew that nothing would be more damaging to capitalism than pushing up the price of energy.
Dear Victoria,
You are bright, or you would not be interested in the answer to that question. It appears that you have not read many of the comments over the past years on WUWT. Since no one has answered you in nearly two hours, until someone more insightful and or articulate comes along, here is my attempt to summarize some of those comments below to answer you — to a point. The ultimate explanation for “why?” Is a mystery. It may be demonic. Seriously. Thus, I will not attempt to go much past the “what” of the issue and tell you a little story (true, unfortunately)… .
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Follow the Money
{Leaving out a lot…. but, you ARE bright, Victoria, so…}
Once upon a time, most of the people of England, Scotland, and Wales (alphabetical (ahem)) heated their homes, fueled their forges and boilers, and cooked their food with wood. As you can see (looking right, left, and all around), they ran out. Coal made it possible not only for the gentry to enjoy fine dining, it saved the lives of millions of poor people (including those of the miners’ own families).
New technology and applied science made coal clean enough to burn in power plants and not cause harm to the people’s lungs. Then, technology and science made nuclear power the most cost-effective power source. Big Coal did not like that. Bad for business. The agents of worldwide Socialism (yes, they have been in the West, attempting to sabotage our economies/take over our governments for decades – see, e.g., the Venona Papers discussed at length in Ann Coulter’s book Treason) did not like that – coal miners were, unwittingly for the most part, among their best foot soldiers. Envirostalinism was born (or came into its own, anyway), goal: regulate nuclear power to the point that it is not economically viable using scare tactics.
That worked for awhile. Then! A little group of entrepreneurs realized that they could make a lot of money off of windmills and solar cells (and other “sustainable”-but-not-efficient technology) and their beady green eyes lit up with goblinish greed. They had a small problem: their ventures would not be profitable without heavy taxpayer and power customer surcharge subsidies (along with contrived market-share-by-regulation). So, they walked across the street and knocked on the door of the Envirostalinists. “We need help,” they said. When the Envirostalinists saw the golden opportunity to undermine free market capitalism glittering in the hands of those Enviroprofiteers, they jumped for joy and said, “Come on in.”
The Envirostalinists rallied their Envirocult true believers to create political pressure and to run their propaganda campaigns and the Enviroprofiteers stuffed gold into the pockets (a.k.a. “campaign contributions” and the like) of the Envirostalinist politicians (and also into those of the just plain, old-fashioned, greedy or power-hungry, politicians) and into the true believers’ pockets (via their clubs, like The Sierra Club) and into the pockets of just about anyone who would put “sustainable” or “earth friendly” or “green” on their product labels… .
NOW! We have the glorious new era! Enviroprofiteers raking in profits off the backs of the miners whose lives they say they are improving. We have come nearly full-circle. Soon, the miners (and all of Jolly Olde England, Scotland, and Wales (alphabetical)) will steal out furtively, in the middle of the night, to find wood … .
There won’t be enough and there are some vicious, amoral, head-choppers running about, now… . So, there will be semi-anarchy which the Envirostalinists (that is, the British version of the “Weathermen” (remember Obama’s pal, Bill Ayers, et. al.?) drool over the possibility of controlling one day.
That will not be the end of the story, nevertheless.
Truth will win. WWII ended in victory for the side of Right. Damaged lives and economic ruin across the countryside scorched by the Envirostalinist-Enviroprofiteer Reign of Terror notwithstanding, SCIENCE TRUTH WILL WIN out in the end.
(Germany is a case in point (not there yet, but, on the road to recovery from Envirostupidity).
No, they did not, “live happily ever after.” There would be more battles to fight, more greedy, freedom-choking, foes to crush. But, the AGW Battle is OVER.
The End.
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At our discouraged, defeatist-language, friends here, a word in closing from Sir Winston Churchill: Never, never, never, never give up.
GO, NUCLEAR POWER INDUSTRY!
Your WUWT ally for truth (about economics and science),
Janice
Ms Moore
That was pretty good stuff.
It has the foundations for an educational game similar to those that take players thru civilization building and destroying. Would have lots of lessons learned.
Thank you, Knute. Your generous compliment by one who adds much insight and pith to WUWT was very much appreciated.
START
RUN “SetID” {a little code that lets the player choose their name, age, occupation, etc…}
RUN “INTRO” {code that asks player initializing questions such as, “Single player?” “Skip Introduction?” “What is this game about?”}
IF “single” = 1
THEN GO TO {more code}
and REPEAT “A”
UNTIL “points” = 49 and blah, blah, blah…
END.
Wish I had: 1) the patience; and 2) the coding skills (lol — I’m back at Pascal!! — C had just started to be taught when I was a junior).
Thanks for the kind affirmation, though!
#(:))
Your grandson (or daughter (smile)) is going to have a wonderful time.
Janice
Awesome job Janice, when is the book, game, movie coming out ??? LOL
Actually, I sometimes play a game that is free AND adjustable ( you can completely write the story / rules/ players and ending yourself ).. I think I might use your example as a base for a game and see what happens ( if you don’t mind me using your idea )…
p.s. the game is called ” Battle for Wesnoth ” !!
Oh, and Knute? I keep forgetting to add this. Please, call me Janice. By the way your waiting for me to give you permission was refreshing! (not that I am not guilty of first-name over-familiarity at times, too) Why retailers and banks think that I LIKE people taking liberties is beyond me. We (here in the U.S., I mean) need to regain a bit of the self-respect (and respect for others) our parents and grandparents had and politely, but firmly, ask to be given the courtesy of a title of respect until we choose to turn the relationship into a more familiar one.
Thank you (eye roll), Marcus, for the compliment on my feeble attempt at writing a game. That your game let’s you determine so much is cool. Thanks for taking time out to comment, here.
#(:))
Because the power of capitalism is its ability, better than any other form of government, to raise the standards of living of a society.
And to do this, ample supplies of inexpensive and RELIABLE energy are needed.
Destroy the supply of reliable energy, and you impede progress and create hardships in society; e.g., lack of employment, etc.
The communists understand this better than anybody and if you want to spread their political religion of hate, poverty, oppression and misery, then cut off one of the main drivers of progress; reliable and inexpensive energy.
It really is that simple.
Many leftists want a massive reduction in the human population of this planet.
The rest believe that wishing will make renewable power both cheap and available. This is the crowd that believes that all we need to do to create batteries capable of powering electric cars, is to pass a law requiring battery manufacturers to start building them.
In the late 70s soviet policy was already more concerned with promoting Russian interests than with anything else, including communist dreams of world domination through empowering global proletariat, terrorist groups or suchlike. And look, what’s happened in the long run? Great Britain is importing more coal from Russia than her entire domestic production. In a world where Russia, although no longer communist, is still known to attach powerful political strings to goods exported en masse.
A perfect game it is. Head — I win, tail — you lose.
Amen to that. But don’t dispair.
I predict that King Coal will make a triomphant comeback by the midst of the century, if not sooner. Then the great masses will have realised that they have been told porkies and they will revolt against the forced-upon-them energy scarcity. The gas will be running out and carbon, any carbon will again be the black gold that it once was. There will be few miners though; it will be mined by robots and combusted with clean-coal technology. Therefore, better not forget how to do that.
King Coal will make a triumphant comeback
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it already is. as developed countries (try to) cut back on coal this makes it even cheaper for the 3rd world to use coal. short of bombing 3rd world countries back to the stone age, the huge supply of coal worldwide, along with the low cost, ease of use and ease of storage makes it inevitable that coal use will increase dramatically.
You may be right. If not, why did they plug the mine with 30′ of concrete? Why not 10′? Or 12′?
Actually, 33 feet. In the UK our governing class makes us use metric rather than imperial measures. Bring back three barleycorns to the inch and a kilderkin of ale.
M of B:-
Ah! the kilderkin. Half a barrel and 2 firkins. Presumably this makes a kilderkin too firkin big for some drinkers.
What a fun read. Loved the story about David Hart.
A man with some backbone.
Can you imagine today’s generation doing that type of manual labor for 5, 10, 20 years ?
If England is anything like the States’ elite, they’ll figure a way to shut down fossils (ie coal), then feast on the low pricing, declare victory, and come up with a multi billion dollar program (ie Hillary and her 30B
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/12/hillary-clinton-unveils-30-billion-plan-to-help-coal-towns/?_r=0) for the mining communities to rebuild themselves. Of course, it won’t be enough but it’s a good way to increase the voting base.
Btw, loved the quote “Wish ter fook that were true of me”.
The dirtier the man the truer the heart.
One has to wonder what desperate straights drove men to forsake the green and light to go into a black God forsaken hole in the ground to be tormented by the demons of brown lung, cave in and explosion. One presumes the same desperation, fueled by enclosure, that provided generations of young male canon fodder to fuel the rapacious psychopathy of the British merchant classes. I suppose digging coal looked pretty good next to swinging from the triple tree or from the new drop, as communal lands were replaced by communal hanging in jolly old England- for centuries one the most f***** up places in the world to be a common man. I like a lot of Monckton’s writing, but this was really perverse little piece. What a sick world where some men are required to sacrifice their lives in the pit of hell so that others can attend meetings in Claridges. With apologies to Edwin Markham I give you “The man with the pick”
Bowed by the weight of centuries he leans
Upon his pick and gazes on the ground,
The emptiness of ages in his face,
And on his back, the burden of the world.
Who made him dead to rapture and despair,
A thing that grieves not and that never hopes,
Stolid and stunned, a brother to the ox?
Who loosened and let down this brutal jaw?
Whose was the hand that slanted back this brow?
Whose breath blew out the light within this brain?
Is this the Thing the Lord God made and gave
To have dominion over sea and land;
To trace the stars and search the heavens for power;
To feel the passion of Eternity?
Is this the dream He dreamed who shaped the suns
And marked their ways upon the ancient deep?
Down all the caverns of Hell to their last gulf
There is no shape more terrible than this–
More tongued with cries against the world’s blind greed–
More filled with signs and portents for the soul–
More packed with danger to the universe.
What gulfs between him and the seraphim!
Slave of the wheel of labor, what to him
Are Plato and the swing of the Pleiades?
What the long reaches of the peaks of song,
The rift of dawn, the reddening of the rose?
Through this dread shape the suffering ages look;
Time’s tragedy is in that aching stoop;
Through this dread shape humanity betrayed,
Plundered, profaned and disinherited,
Cries protest to the Powers that made the world,
A protest that is also prophecy.
O masters, lords and rulers in all lands,
Is this the handiwork you give to God,
This monstrous thing distorted and soul-quenched?
How will you ever straighten up this shape;
Touch it again with immortality;
Give back the upward looking and the light;
Rebuild in it the music and the dream;
Make right the immemorial infamies,
Perfidious wrongs, immedicable woes?
O masters, lords and rulers in all lands,
How will the future reckon with this Man?
How answer his brute question in that hour
When whirlwinds of rebellion shake all shores?
How will it be with kingdoms and with kings–
With those who shaped him to the thing he is–
When this dumb Terror shall rise to judge the world,
After the silence of the centuries?
28 July 1979
the Patrice Lumumba University, where terrorist grunts from all over the world were trained.
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“Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it”
27 August 1979
IRA kill the Queen’s cousin Lord Mountbatten
Elizabeth II’s cousin, Lord Louis Mountbatten, one of his teenage grandsons and two others were killed by a bomb on his boat at Mullaghmore in county Sligo, Ireland. On the same day the IRA also killed 18 soldiers at Warrenpoint in County Down.
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And don’t forget that Catherine Ashton, the previous EU Foreign Affairs Minister was also accused of (and never denied) taking money from the USSR. This was when she was a treasurer for CND.
“ferdberple
December 21, 2015 at 9:41 am
IRA kill the Queen’s cousin Lord Mountbatten”
Who’s whole family changed their name from Battenberg during WW1.