Obama rejects Keystone XL

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Craig Rucker of CFACT writes:

After years of deliberate delays President Obama rejected the Keystone XL pipeline today. This is a victory for radical environmentalists and those who wish America ill.

It is a punch in the face to everyone else. Keystone XL is a clean, safe way to transport Canadian oil to American refineries and markets.

It would bring jobs along with abundant, affordable energy. Stopping the pipeline has no meaningful benefits for the environment and will create no meaningful change to global temperature. House Speaker Paul Ryan had this to say:

“This decision isn’t surprising, but it is sickening,” the Wisconsin Republican said. “By rejecting this pipeline, the president is rejecting tens of thousands of good-paying jobs.”

“He is rejecting our largest trading partner and energy supplier. He is rejecting the will of the American people and a bipartisan majority of the Congress,” he added. “If the president wants to spend the rest of his time in office catering to special interests, that’s his choice to make. But it’s just wrong. In the House, we are going to pursue a bold agenda of growth and opportunity for all.”

President Obama’s bad decision indicates that his White House is truly captive to the radical eco-left.

If the President is this bad on energy policy it indicates that there may be no limits to how bad a climate agreement he may sign in Paris.

At the White House sound understanding of science, energy and the environment have left the building.

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Tom Judd
November 6, 2015 1:12 pm

‘At the White House sound understanding of science, energy and the environment have left the building.’
Hate to say it, but sound understanding of science, energy, and the environment (and a whole bunch of other things) was never in the building to begin with.

George Devries Klein, PhD, PG, FGSA
Reply to  Tom Judd
November 6, 2015 4:25 pm

Agreed!

Reply to  George Devries Klein, PhD, PG, FGSA
November 6, 2015 9:22 pm

More spectacular train crashes, then….? I suggest People living along the traintracks evacuate to safe distance = 10 miles….

Allencic
Reply to  Tom Judd
November 6, 2015 5:01 pm

You bet! How is it possible that the electorate could put such an evil, scientifically illiterate,imbecile of a fraud in the White House as our President? God help us all.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Allencic
November 6, 2015 9:05 pm

The Democrats have the largest SuperPac on earth–the Main Stream Media. And they’ve become exceptionally skilled and effective at brainwashing the public with their lies and subterfuge. It’s been going on for decades and people won’t wake up until the US hits rock bottom.

Reply to  Allencic
November 7, 2015 4:09 am

“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” — H. L. Mencken

The bard of Baltimore had it right all along.

Bill
Reply to  Allencic
November 7, 2015 5:03 am

Because he promised more “free” stuff, the media intentionally failed during the vetting process and the big “liberal” money wanted him. Plus the Right ran McCain (a doer not a leader” and Romney failed miserably. If the media had vetted Obummer half as much as they did Sarah Palin, he would have gone to jail for fraud instead of the Whitehouse.
If you believe this man is a Christian, loves America and truly wanted to make this country better and stronger, none of his decisions make sense. If you believe he is a Muslim, is not an American, hates this country and wants to do everything he can to destroy it, then all of his decisions make sense. Remember, we don’t have a “Spending” problem, we have a “Revenue” problem, until it comes to a project that will actually help this nation! This imposter and fraud should be in prison, not running the country.!
Bill

F. Ross
Reply to  Allencic
November 7, 2015 12:25 pm

Bill
To paaphrase your statement:

If you believe he is a Muslim, is not an American, hates this country and wants to do everything he can to destroy it, then all of his decisions make sense.

may I simply say if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, etc.
And boy we are all screwed for at least another 439 days
(http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=263&iso=20170120T00&msg=Time%20left%20until%20Obama%20leaves%20office?

verdeviewer
Reply to  Allencic
November 8, 2015 7:43 pm

If not for the Electoral College, the majority of the voting electorate would’ve put Gore in the White House in 2001. Imagine that.

Rascal
Reply to  verdeviewer
November 9, 2015 12:54 pm

You’ve heard of nightmares; your second thought would be a DAYmare.

Curtis from Calgary
Reply to  Tom Judd
November 6, 2015 9:15 pm

Just wait until the U.S. requires fresh water from Canada.

Reply to  Tom Judd
November 7, 2015 2:49 am

That was my first thought.

tgmccoy
Reply to  Tom Judd
November 7, 2015 9:20 am

This is so Warren Buffett (who has announced that his profits are at a record high)
can play with his BNSF set.
Not green, just greed…..

Auto
Reply to  Tom Judd
November 7, 2015 11:21 am

So Canada can now build a pipeline to the West Coast, and export the oil to China.
Whether they will – note the POTUS decision (announcement, anyway; I suspect the decision was taken years ago) was a f t e r the election of Trudeau fils – is less clear.
About twenty more years of this and the most advanced, and most civilised, nation in North America will be the United States of Mexico.
We in Europe have problems of our own – many of our own making . . .
Auto

Catcracking
Reply to  Tom Judd
November 7, 2015 1:59 pm

I agree also, there is nothing sane about the administration’s energy policy, or for that matter any of the other policies

Richard G.
November 6, 2015 1:13 pm

A clear win for Berkshire Hathaway, owner of the railroad that now transports all that oil. Thank you Warren Buffet, Obama supporter. Rent seeking, not?

Richard G.
Reply to  Richard G.
November 6, 2015 5:25 pm

This also keeps Bakken oil shipment confined to truck and rail transport.

Hamp Simkins
Reply to  Richard G.
November 7, 2015 8:27 am

I believe the Sandpiper Pipeline will transport Bakken oil and doesn’t need approval of the state department since it doesn’t cross the border. http://www.enbridge.com/SandpiperProject.aspx.

Mark T
Reply to  Richard G.
November 6, 2015 6:18 pm

Yeah, this has nothing to do with the eco-left. It is purely to save $2B/year that B-H would lose. Well, given that the eco-left is all about money…
Mark

Reply to  Richard G.
November 6, 2015 9:05 pm

Record profits for B-H! Warren’s investment in Democrats is paying dividends.

Barbara
Reply to  donmgibson
November 8, 2015 7:19 pm

As much oil as the pipeline could have carried can be done with 100 tanker car trains running every 45 minutes anyway but this could change if the environmentalists get their way.

Francisco
November 6, 2015 1:14 pm

Pinches Canucks a bit…. mid-North Americans, oh you’re gonna feel it.
I am sorry for your government. (yes, I said ‘sorry’)

getitright
Reply to  Francisco
November 6, 2015 2:00 pm

Yes it is a pinch.
The recent change in Gov’t has shaken up the status quo. The “Liberal” party under the leadership of the “Student prince” Trudeau, now Prime Minister of Canada, campaigned on a platform of better international relationships for Canada among other fantasy illusioins. This was to contrast with that of previous Prime Minister Harper’s pragmatic and steady approach hated by progressives and environmentalists.
However in his post election victory call with President Obama, PM Trudeau let slip the decision to pull Canada out of the ISIS conflict thus removing our small air force bombing contingent, one of his other campaign platforms.
Obama had been demonizing Harper previously by not approving the construction, thus inadvertently, or perhaps overtly, aiding Trudeau who blamed the hold up on Harper’s supposedly aggressive international policy attitude. Trudeau maintained that the line could be approved when he was elected Prime Minister.
However the little idiot forgot, or did not realize, that foreign policy decisions can have negative consequences. In this case Obama slapped back by vetoing the line, in retribution for the ISIS pullout. (My theory.) Actually I can’t blame Mr O for this, as I might well have done the same considering.
We here in Canada are hunkering down for a long litany of domestic and foreign relations blunders. The upcoming disaster is Trudeau in Paris COP21 where he will be pushing his “Facebook foreign policy” (FFB) looking for likes as he sacrifices Canada’s once thriving natural resources industry on the alter of Climate Change.
Strange how things are always contradictory. Leftist progressives are anything but progressive, yet staunch Conservatives are constantly making innovation and progress!
I propose a law that says
” Whatever you think it is, it will always turn out the exact opposite”
We in Canada are about to be the Guinea pigs on this one.

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  getitright
November 6, 2015 2:56 pm

I expect this has sealed the deal for folks at Lockheed-Martin as Trudeau fils promised to review and scrap the F-35 purchase. Or more probably, scrap the purchase and then review Canada’s options. He’ll probably buy Chinese or Russian planes; the boy’s an idiot. I only hope Butts and the other back-room boys in the new government are smarter.

James Strom
Reply to  getitright
November 6, 2015 3:18 pm

Re: Robert of Ottawa’s post–Aren’t the Chinese working on a knockoff of the F-35? It would be pretty interesting if you Canadians adopted that plane instead of the American version.

nigelf
Reply to  getitright
November 6, 2015 4:23 pm

I get it doubly bad by living in Ontario, first by the disastrous Liberal rule by the Ontario Government for the last twelve years and now I’ll be getting it by the Federal Liberals.
I don’t think my sphincter can stretch any wider.

Reply to  getitright
November 6, 2015 4:43 pm

It is intriguing that Obama decided to do this on Justin Trudeau’s first day in power. In my opinion, the timing is not coincidence. For some reason, Obama was willing to say “No” to Trudeau, but not to Harper. The payback for pulling out of the fight with ISIS is an interesting angle not to be discounted. However, it is clear that building better relations with Canada is not part of the agenda for the rest of the term…unless it was implied to him that it was “OK” to turn down Keystone.

BFL
Reply to  getitright
November 6, 2015 5:07 pm

“He’ll probably buy Chinese or Russian planes; ”
Go review the problems with the F-35 and you will see why they should go elsewhere. Made in America ain’t what it used to be.

Mike the Morlock
Reply to  getitright
November 6, 2015 9:36 pm

BFL
Almost all new aircraft have teething problems. The original F-4 phantom was ill received due to its not having a gun. the F-15 also took some time to warm to. The fighter mafia was instrumental in getting the
F-16 approved because of the early criticisms of the F-15. The F-18 was the unwanted child by all. In the end it was found that it was the perfect replacement for the A-7 on carriers. Last one factor that is often over looked. The ground crews. Because most western militarizes are made up of volunteers the aircraft are better maintained and the sortie rates are much higher. Many of these people have 8-20 years experience at taking care of the aircraft.
We build very nice toys for our service people. I helped make many of them in earlier years. You have no idea how much fun it was going to college after having spent 15 years building war machines. It would drive the lefties nuts as soon as they found out!
michael

hunter
Reply to  getitright
November 6, 2015 11:04 pm

It appears Canadians may have found someone even less suited for critical thinking and strategic planning than the Americans have.

Bill Marsh
Editor
Reply to  getitright
November 7, 2015 4:00 am

I seriously doubt that Canada pulling out of the ISIS fight had anything to do with Pres Obama’s decision re Keystone. That was a local internal decision entirely and everybody with half a brain knew he was going to reject it for years, he was just waiting for the ‘best’ political moment to do so.

taz1999
Reply to  getitright
November 7, 2015 7:55 am

Mike the Morlock
It’s a long sad joke in the defense industry but well known that when you hear “joint” as in joint strike fighter think “compromise” Each branch of the services has unique requirements and the requirements conflict with each other. We’ve never attempted to “joint” the services into one big block. So you end up with a compromised air superiority aircraft, Compromised ground attack, Compromised fleet defense. Interestingly as far as I can tell since most of the compromise was based around VTOL,STOL the Marines variant looks to be closest to what the Marines want. (when it finally gets it’s gun) (and I expect they’re going to find that the aircraft will end up a little soft for ground assault)

taz1999
Reply to  getitright
November 7, 2015 8:04 am

And the F-35 is now looking at time to market issues. Being developed for a dozen years has given a lot of time to develop counter measures and obviated many of the initial advantages. Very few people are still using cell phones developed that long ago.

Vuil
Reply to  getitright
November 8, 2015 9:09 pm

I owe America an apology. I used to say that the US were clearly a bunch of imbeciles for voting in Obama.
And then we in Canada voted in a man who makes Obama’s paper thin resume look positively voluminous. A part time drama teacher who has the intellect of a box of hammers. His achievements don’t even rise to that of community organizer.
A man so politically correct that he insists on dressing up in Muslim garb when he visits a mosque and who has just created the new department of the environment and climate change. With much more silliness to come.
Sorry American voters. You guys are amateurs in the stupid electorate stakes.

Reply to  Vuil
November 8, 2015 9:13 pm

Vull,
The bad news (if you need more) is that people like that are very easy to control. And you aren’t the one who will be controlling him.
Sorry…

Rascal
Reply to  Vuil
November 9, 2015 1:35 pm

While I must admit to not following Canadian politics with the degree you evidently follow those of the US, I think your comment does insult hammers.

Robdel
Reply to  Francisco
November 6, 2015 9:22 pm

I sympathize with you bloggers who wanted the pipeline. However the majority of Canadians deserve everything they now get for voting in Trudeau and for them I am not feeling even slightly sorry. You made your bed by rejecting Harper. Now lie in it.

Monna Manhas
Reply to  Robdel
November 6, 2015 10:02 pm

The majority of Canadians didn’t actually vote for Trudeau. He got just 39.5% of the popular vote. Last federal election there was a great hue and cry about how Harper got a majority in Parliament with only about 40% of the popular vote. This time, the majority is greater and the silence is deafening.

Keitho
Editor
Reply to  Robdel
November 7, 2015 10:18 am

I understand the UN gave him some help in achieving this victory, as Moncton said they would last year in Australia. He thought Abbott would be OK but that hope was forlorn. There are no stand up western leaders going to Paris now.

Editor
November 6, 2015 1:14 pm

It also will mean, counter-intuitively, that now Obama is less likely to reach any CO2 treaty with Canada. Both the NDP (socialist) government of Alberta, and the Liberal federal government, supported KXL.
The word was that both were willing to trade a carbon tax for approval on the KXL.
Ooops.
In spite of the lack of pipelines, Canada reached a record 3.4 million bbls/day in August.

Barbara
Reply to  Les Johnson
November 6, 2015 4:05 pm

National Post Canada, Archives
There are a number of articles on who funded the campaigns against Canadian oil. Browse a few pages back in the archives for much more information.
http://www.nationalpost.com/search/index.html?q=Vivian+Krause

Barbara
Reply to  Barbara
November 8, 2015 2:25 pm

WIKILEAKS
‘Oil Sands Market Campaigns’
A strategy report on dealing with parties who oppose the Oil Sands and who they are. Quite revealing!
http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/attach/33/33714_Suncor%20Presentation-1210.pdf

Barbara
Reply to  Barbara
November 9, 2015 9:04 am

LE DEVOIR: Canadian Wikileak
Extracts of portions of diplomatic cable about Copenhagen Conference and the position of Quebec.
About: Ambassador Jacobson’s second visit to Montreal December 14-15 which was in 2009
Mentions oil and oil sands.
http://www.ledevoir.com/wikileaks-power

Keitho
Editor
Reply to  Les Johnson
November 7, 2015 10:16 am

When does Gateway East come on line I wonder?

Lorne WHITE
Reply to  Keitho
November 9, 2015 9:05 am

Energy East SHOULD now be built, with Alberta/Saskatchewan oil sent to St.John NB for refining and shipping to Europe. Canada should also re-open the Montreal refineries to produce Ontario & Quebec fuel.
This is what Louis St. Laurent did when Eisenhower rejected the St. Lawrence Seaway ~1954. Anyone remember how fast the Yanks jumped to insist that the Seaway take an American route, instead of all-Canadian?
Let’s face it, the Yanks have always been lousy neighbours who really don’t like their largest trading partner, except to screw us. Look at what’s being reported today (2015-11-09) about how the Trans Pacific Partnership will disembowel Canadian high-tech companies in favour of USA rules.
Let’s ignore the USA and sell to the world instead.
(Of course, that may be a tad difficult if the National Post & Wikipedia articles posted by Barbara are true. It’s very easy to manipulate a public that wants ‘the government’ to cure climate change but won’t stop driving and flying. Wait til they see how much it will cost us after we watch Justin better Harper’s 30% target.)

Dobes
November 6, 2015 1:15 pm

Is this really a surprise? The only thing I found that was surprising is he finally made a decision. I always assumed he would wait until his last week in office to reject it so he wouldn’t face any backlash.

Steve E
Reply to  Dobes
November 6, 2015 4:16 pm

It seems the way to get him to make a decision is to tell him you don’t want him to make a decision. Apparently, TCP requested a delay in the decision until a ruling was made at the state level. So of course, Obama did the opposite. 7 years of delays…no decision…request a delay…get a decision.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Steve E
November 6, 2015 9:12 pm

Obama played it like the typical self-centered politician–he’d rather slap TCP in the face with a resounding “No” than be slapped first. The guy is maniacal.

rabbit
November 6, 2015 1:18 pm

It’s mostly a symbolic gesture. The shipment of Alberta oil to the southern U.S. has increased through rail cars and through the expansion of pipelines that didn’t require federal approval.

Michael Hebert
Reply to  rabbit
November 6, 2015 1:35 pm

Ayep… the Alberta oil is going to flow through the USA, KXL or no KXL. The amount of new long-term jobs that would be created by the KXL is miniscule.

empiresentry
Reply to  Michael Hebert
November 6, 2015 5:32 pm

The one leg of the Alberta Clipper, the single portion that runs through MN, created $8 billion pumped into the economy. These are SHOVEL READY jobs with workers spending.
I would gladly take any of those jobs.
.
Trick question:
Whats the difference between Obama temporary TAXPAYER sticulous shovel ready jobs and a real investment with temporary jobs that does not cost the taxpayers any money?

JamesD
Reply to  Michael Hebert
November 6, 2015 10:00 pm

You can say that about any project. What matters is the regulatory hassle that everyone sees. Better off building factories outside the USA.
By the way, the jobs would be pretty decent. Pumping station operators and maintenance crews. The pipelining jobs during construction would have put 6 figures in a lot of men’s pockets if they work it overtime.

Steve E
Reply to  rabbit
November 6, 2015 4:23 pm

That way Warren Buffet gets his cut. Certainly explains his anti-KXL stand.
An oil train derailment (lac megantic) has a much more serious eco impact than a pipeline spill. So much for Obama’s green bona fides.

lokenbr
Reply to  Steve E
November 6, 2015 11:53 pm
Reply to  rabbit
November 8, 2015 5:10 am
Reply to  Ron Clutz
November 9, 2015 12:16 am

+ 1 (at least). And another thing Key Stone pipe line is nothing but a short cut, so nothing new there, the oil will get down to the US no matter what.

Rascal
Reply to  asybot
November 9, 2015 12:50 pm

Your reasoning is the best way I can think of to start some ecofreak’s head spinning.
Keep up the good work.

Rascal
Reply to  asybot
November 9, 2015 1:55 pm

From what I’ve heard (though ont in the media) the latest mode of transport is by water.

RACookPE1978
Editor
Reply to  Rascal
November 9, 2015 2:28 pm

Rascal

From what I’ve heard (though ont in the media) the latest mode of transport is by water.

Oboma’s union goons in Warren Buffet’s railroads, trucks, cranes, tugboats, barges, and ships remain the only “winners” as THEY get money hauling, re-storing, re-loading, and re-loading this oil many wasteful and slow times in many different cities and ports.

Ken G
November 6, 2015 1:18 pm

“At the White House sound understanding of science, energy and the environment have left the building.”
When was it in the building?

RHS
Reply to  Ken G
November 6, 2015 1:21 pm

Sound understanding arrived February 32nd, two thousand and never…

Resourceguy
Reply to  Ken G
November 6, 2015 1:52 pm

Never there but manipulator lawyers rule the roost and honest types or fact checkers need not apply.

James Fosser
November 6, 2015 1:22 pm

When this president leaves office next year there will probably be statues of him erected all over the Middle East and one of those will ever be blown up!

Mike Bromley the Kurd
Reply to  James Fosser
November 6, 2015 1:27 pm

Maybe a Blow-up doll will be made in effigy.

Reply to  Mike Bromley the Kurd
November 6, 2015 2:12 pm

Will it be blown up with hot air?

November 6, 2015 1:23 pm

Reblogged this on Climatism and commented:
President Obama’s bad decision indicates that his White House is truly captive to the radical eco-left.
If the President is this bad on energy policy it indicates that there may be no limits to how bad a climate agreement he may sign in Paris.
Obama’s decision to reject the Keystone XL pipeline, against the will of the people, proves his legacy is to panda to a small number of radical environmental activist groups, thus damaging America’s economy and denying thousands of well paid jobs.
Not to mention denying American energy independence, having to continue importing oil from Middle eastern countries.
Interestingly, America has built the equivalent of 10 Keystone pipelines since 2010 — and nobody said anything.

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  Climatism
November 6, 2015 2:49 pm

to panda to a small number of radical environmental activist groups sponsored by family foundations captured by the left and rent-seeking billionaires.

Steve P
Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
November 7, 2015 8:26 am

“…to panda to a small number of radical environmental activist groups.”
The word you want is pander.

Mike Bromley the Kurd
November 6, 2015 1:24 pm

The rest of his time catering to special interests? He’s spent the WHOLE time doing so, especially the likes of Warren Buffett. And don’t forget George Soros, who, as the Oil Sands slip into decline, is likely to swoop in and pick up his usual bargains. All of North America is teetering before the plunge into decline, as Canada elects a “protest mandate” in daffy, coiffed Justin Trudeau, and Alberta slithers into a puddle of liquefied debris under their local Socialist bunch, product of another protest mandate…The final crash will come if Bernie Sanders gets elected into the presidency. Then we won’t need to cut emissions, because they will stop all on their own.

commieBob
November 6, 2015 1:29 pm

Canada should act in its own best interests just as Obama says he is acting in the best interests of the USofA. The TPP is an extremely crappy deal for the Canadian people (but it’s a great deal for international corporations with headquarters in the US). Canada should refuse to ratify the TPP. The corporations might be sufficiently ticked off that donations to the Democrats would be seriously reduced.
I find myself agreeing with Hillary, on this occasion only, the TPP is evil and shouldn’t be ratified. Maybe the death of Keystone will cause the young Trudeau to grow a spine. /rant

getitright
Reply to  commieBob
November 6, 2015 2:02 pm

Can a jellyfish grow a spine?

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  commieBob
November 6, 2015 2:46 pm

Trudeau fils will never do that.

lee
Reply to  commieBob
November 6, 2015 7:55 pm

Apparently Australia is ‘being greedy’ for not signing TPP.

Louis
November 6, 2015 1:30 pm

“If the President is this bad on energy policy it indicates that there may be no limits to how bad a climate agreement he may sign in Paris.”

Obviously, Obama no longer feels the need to straddle the fence on sensitive political issues. This is a sign that in his last year of office he is going to be the all-out leftist and wacko environmental extremist he has always wanted to be. He will sign any agreement in Paris, just like he was willing to sign any agreement with Iran. It doesn’t matter how bad it is or how much it will hurt our economy. If Obama’s final 2 years in office can’t wake up the American people to how extreme the Democratic Party has become, nothing will.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Louis
November 6, 2015 1:37 pm

It’s all part of his new Obamadon’tcare program.

Samuel C. Cogar
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 7, 2015 5:25 am

HA, …. it’s all part of his one and only campaign “promise” that he is still intent on fulfilling, … “to fundamentally change America” …. in order to insure his legacy is always honored and praised by the Islamic worshipping Muslim world of Religious “wackos”.

herkimer
November 6, 2015 1:31 pm

America has built the equivalent of 10 Keystone pipelines since 2010 and no one said anything . What a way to treat your best neighbour.
http://business.financialpost.com/news/energy/america-has-built-the-equivalent-of-10-keystone-pipelines-since-2010-and-no-one-said-anything

herkimer
Reply to  herkimer
November 6, 2015 2:28 pm

Here is part of the above news clipping from Financial Post
‘”While TransCanada Corp. has been cooling its heels on its Keystone XL proposal for the past six years, the oil pipeline business has been booming in the United States.
Crude oil pipeline mileage rose 9.1 per cent last year alone to reach 66,649 miles, according to data from the Washington, D.C.-based Association of Oil Pipe Lines (AOPL) set to be released soon.
Between 2009 and 2013, more than 8,000 miles of oil transmission pipelines have been built in the past five years in the U.S., AOPL spokesperson John Stoody said, compared to the 875 miles TransCanada wants to lay in the states of Montana, South Dakota and Nebraska for its 830,000-bpd project. By last year, the U.S. had built 12,000 miles of pipe since 2010.”
“I have always opposed Keystone XL,” tweeted Democrat presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders on Monday. “It isn’t a distraction — it’s a fundamental litmus test of your commitment to battle climate change.”
The logic of this man escapes me and he is running to be the President ? . According to his logic if US builds 8000 miles of new oil pipelines it is ok and it results in no environmental harm but 875 miles of KEYSTONE is a litmus test to battle climate change . What nonsense !
The cancelling of the Keystone pipeline has nothing to with US economic interests or the environment . It seems to have everything to do with false posturing for Paris and the 2016 Presidential election . The timing of the decision tells it all .

herkimer
Reply to  herkimer
November 6, 2015 5:27 pm

This Keystone decision illustrates how much the flawed AGW science has infected the world . Here we have a politically timed decision where the Administration has chosen to jettisons its long historical relationship with its closest neighbour just to achieve PR points at a Climate Conference. It will claim brownie points for stopping the expansion of an 875 mile oil pipeline between Canada and US. Unlikely to be mentioned in their presentation may be the fact that, back home it has, at the same time been busy building 12000 miles of new pipelines in its own country while publically objecting to the pipeline from Canada. Unlikely to be mentioned in its presentation also will be the fact that there is no global warming currently happening on all global land areas for the last 10 years. Also not mentioned may be the fact that North American climate has actually been cooling for almost two decades. The same is happening in Asia. Heating oil will be an essential world requirement in the future when the climate cools over the next 30 years .
This decision is very wrong and it will be overturned in my opinion.

RockyRoad
Reply to  herkimer
November 6, 2015 9:18 pm

None of the politicians running on the Democrat side (Sanders is actually an Independent) have any logic at all. And the Democrat front-runner is considered a liar by over 60% of the public.

Auto
Reply to  herkimer
November 7, 2015 11:34 am

Rocky,
Thanks.
As a Brit, I’d appreciate your view of the GOPpers candidates.
Is there a couple of reasonable prospects there, or is their cupboard nearly as bare as the Dems’?
Our new alternative to Cameron – one Corbyn – makes your Sanders look like FDR, Ike, JFK and Ronnie Reagan rolled into one, so, if you have spare prayers, we could badly do with them!
Auto

Kevin Benn
November 6, 2015 1:33 pm

There seems to be a real risk of oil spills in very sensitive surroundings. Canadian oil will continue to flow through the existing pipeline. The main drawback will be the inaccessibility of native oil at Baker, Montana. Perhaps Obama is counting on the U.S. fracking boom while adjusting his halo for Paris.

Robert Herron
November 6, 2015 1:34 pm

Obama is the most ignorant and incompetent President in decades. He is spiteful and incapable of taking criticism. See:
http://business.financialpost.com/news/energy/america-has-built-the-equivalent-of-10-keystone-pipelines-since-2010-and-no-one-said-anything

Reply to  Robert Herron
November 6, 2015 6:08 pm

He is neither ignorant nor incompetent. Ignorance: he is very learned in Marxist ideology. Incompetence: his aims to destabilise and “fundamentally change” the US into an uber-socialist society have made sickeningly enormous progress. I would agree that he is spiteful, viciously so in his hatred of America.
I truly wonder if there is going to be another presidential election.

Mark T
Reply to  Mark and two Cats
November 6, 2015 6:26 pm

None of this was Obama’s doing. He is merely the mouthpiece.
Mark

RockyRoad
Reply to  Mark and two Cats
November 6, 2015 9:20 pm

Yes, Mark–there are puppet masters controlling Obama, but he’s so ideally suited for the part you can’t see the strings.

Dog
November 6, 2015 1:36 pm

Not surprising considering his administration deliberately deregulated the natural gas industry to the point of being immune to enviromental destruction. Clearly Haliburton is one the main sponsors of Obama….which means this pipeline absolutely does not work in their favor.

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  Dog
November 6, 2015 1:47 pm

The pipeline is a much cleaner delivery system for the oil than using oil tankers and railroad tank cars – but then logic is hardly a strong point with those who make decisions by feelings and emotions. (The face of Gaia would be scared by this ugly pipeline running down the middle of the North American continent!)

Dog
Reply to  noaaprogrammer
November 6, 2015 1:57 pm

What and poisoning our water table with 40,000 chemicals is any better? Atleast there’s naturally occuring bacteria that feed fairly quickly on oil. Prime example is the Gulf BP Spill.

MarkW
Reply to  noaaprogrammer
November 6, 2015 3:44 pm

The fools never give up.
1) The chemicals aren’t getting into the water supply.
2) They aren’t all that poisonous.

Reply to  noaaprogrammer
November 8, 2015 7:55 pm

Dog says:
Halliburton… poisoning our water table… & etc.
noaaprogrammer;
You’re right: total ‘feelings and emotions’, no credible facts.
That’s how it always is with that cult, isn’t it?

Dog
Reply to  Dog
November 6, 2015 4:52 pm


It’s very well known that waste water used in both drilling and fracking are making their way not only through our water tables, but to the surface:
http://www2.epa.gov/hfstudy/executive-summary-hydraulic-fracturing-study-draft-assessment-2015

JamesD
Reply to  Dog
November 6, 2015 10:04 pm

LOL

Reply to  Dog
November 8, 2015 6:50 pm

Ummm…. Dog, did you *read* the study you linked to? If I may quote from the section “Major Findings” in the Executive Summary;
“We did not find evidence that these mechanisms have led to widespread, systemic impacts on drinking water resources in the United States. Of the potential mechanisms identified in this report, we found specific instances where one or more mechanisms led to impacts on drinking water resources, including contamination of drinking water wells. The number of identified cases, however, was small compared to the number of hydraulically fractured wells.”

Reply to  Dog
November 8, 2015 7:51 pm

Dog,
You’ve been owned by your own link! LOL!!

26south
November 6, 2015 1:38 pm

The oil is now going (and will continue to go) over the border by train then by existing pipelines. More dangerous, more costly for what? Obama says it is not in the US national interest but has no science and no economic data to back this up. It was an arbitrary decision from an inept President

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  26south
November 6, 2015 2:40 pm

He may be inept, but he is deliberate in pursuit of his objectives.

Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
November 6, 2015 2:55 pm

And they are?

RockyRoad
Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
November 6, 2015 9:23 pm

To quote Obama: The transformation of America. His ideology asserts that America is the problem in the world, not the solution. By the time those of his ilk realize their mistake, it might be too late.

Auto
Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
November 7, 2015 11:38 am

Rocky,
I suspect that those of his ilk look on his works and applaud.
Whether the people of the US will applaud in ten or twenty years [never mind the rest of the world suffering under a [say] EU hegemony involving catastrophic, astronomic levels of bureaucracy; other hegemonies will be available . . . ] is, I think, not assured!
Auto

PaulH
November 6, 2015 1:41 pm

A clear win for all those Americans who support Venezuela and Saudi Arabia.

pat
November 6, 2015 1:43 pm

the eco-left will celebrate….what? it’s all smoke and mirrors:
3 Nov: Nasdaq: Lynn Cook: Canadian Crude Still Flows to U.S. Despite Keystone Pipeline Delay–Update
(Alison Sider and David George-Cosh contributed to this article)
TransCanada Corp.’s move to postpone the Keystone XL pipeline won’t have much effect on the U.S. energy industry, experts say, largely because American refiners have found other ways to get crude oil from Canada.
Oil imports from Canada set a record in August, averaging 3.4 million barrels a day, according to data released Monday by the U.S. Energy Department.
In fact, the U.S. has bought 64% more Canadian crude so far this year than it did in the same stretch of 2008, the year TransCanada first asked the U.S. government for permission to build the pipeline that would run from Alberta to Texas. That is an extra 1.2 million barrels of oil flowing into the U.S. from Canada every day, or 45% more crude than Keystone XL would have carried had it been constructed…
Trains now carry a lot of oil, including tens of thousands of barrels a day from Canada. Close to 1 million barrels of oil a day moves across the U.S. on oil trains, which act as rolling pipelines that can carry up to 80,000 barrels of crude. More than 10% of all oil hauled by railroads originates in Canada…
TransCanada’s chief executive, Russ Girling, said Tuesday that in the long term oil producers still want to ship crude on Keystone XL, which would be safer and cheaper than using oil trains…
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/canadian-crude-still-flows-to-us-despite-keystone-pipeline-delayupdate-20151103-01178

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  pat
November 6, 2015 2:04 pm

The only difference is that now, tons more CO2 will be produced in the process of transport. Smooth move Beavis…

RockyRoad
Reply to  Dawtgtomis
November 6, 2015 9:26 pm

…which will benefit the environment that much more, proving that whatever the enviro-wackos do, they end up looking stupid.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  pat
November 6, 2015 3:16 pm

This has all been an ideologue’s twaddle versus steely business acumen. It’s a lopsided battle and that Canadian oil will find its way to market.

Barbara
Reply to  Alan Robertson
November 7, 2015 9:54 am

The goal is to shut down the extraction and transportation of Canadian fossil fuels and not just one pipeline.

Bubba Cow
Reply to  pat
November 6, 2015 4:13 pm

and it didn’t take Bill long to get out the spin that the people have spoken –
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/exxon-keystone-and-the-turning-tide-on-fossil-fuels

Steve E
Reply to  pat
November 6, 2015 4:37 pm

Close to 1 million barrels of oil a day moves across the U.S. on oil trains, which act as rolling pipelines that can carry up to 80,000 barrels of crude. More than 10% of all oil hauled by railroads originates in Canada…
Which is what this was always about: Billionaires like Warren Buffet who own railroads that transport crude giving millions to democrats to fight the pipelines that would reduce his profits. Environmentalism has always been the green cover story to make it all legit. Google Lac Megantic Disaster to see how environmentally friendly a a crude oil train derailment can be.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Steve E
November 6, 2015 9:27 pm

The Left’s ideology always goes to the highest bidder.

Resourceguy
November 6, 2015 1:50 pm

The score is 10,001 for the gut reaction manipulator lawyers and 0 for the facts, figures, and literate type personalities. Sometimes even Obama can’t help but chuckle at his own sleight of hand victories like shovel ready stimulus. He actually chuckled at the podium once over that one. That is allowed for the lawyer manipulator in chief, but that does not extend to the hired help like Dr. Grubber on manipulating those “stupid” Americans in the ACA power play.

SCheesman
November 6, 2015 1:57 pm

Am I correct in believing that the pipeline was only up for review by the White House because it crossed the international border? Perhaps the Canadians should build their side to beside the border, the load it onto a train to cross the border, and load it onto a pipeline built up to the American side…

Resourceguy
Reply to  SCheesman
November 6, 2015 1:59 pm

Yes, Exxon and its affiliates are working on that and look what it got them in NY with the Attorney General nut job there.

Reply to  SCheesman
November 6, 2015 3:01 pm

Lay down 100 feet of track across the border. Set a single tanker car on it, straddling the border. Pipe the Canadian oil into it on one end, drain it out of the other end into a pipeline on the US side of the border. Viola!

Tom in Florida
Reply to  SCheesman
November 6, 2015 6:59 pm

No I believe the reason the Feds are involved is because the pipeline will cross several State lines.

Eyes Wide Open
Reply to  Tom in Florida
November 7, 2015 5:24 am

The Feds are involved because it crosses an international border not state borders. You may have missed the recent revelation that while Obama was masturbating over Keystone XL, over 10 times the length of pipelines have been built within the United States.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
November 8, 2015 8:00 pm

Tom in Fl:
Amendment 10th: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
That sure sounds to me like the feds are supposed to keep their noses out of this.

Rascal
Reply to  dbstealey
November 9, 2015 1:25 pm

The crossing is at a federal border, and that is one of the powers granted to the feds by the Constitution; if it were an interstate crossing and both states agreed to it, your comment is correct.

Resourceguy
November 6, 2015 1:58 pm

Now let’s see the maps of all the other pipelines and rail lines. Well, that would be too messy to put on a map. There are too many of them. Just convert some of the existing pipes for heavy oil like they plan to do anyway and they can go from the current 2x Keystone volume moving over the border now to 3x. Add this to the chuckle list at the WH because they know this fact also.

Samuel C. Cogar
Reply to  Resourceguy
November 7, 2015 5:52 am
Resourceguy
November 6, 2015 2:03 pm

Okay, I’m confused about the dotted line between Cushing and the Gulf Coast. Is this an old version of the map? That was finished first and it contributed to pushing the oil inventory surge on down the line to that storage area along the coast and near the refinery corridor and then to its contribution to depressing global oil prices.

dgp
Reply to  Resourceguy
November 6, 2015 2:20 pm

That is an old map. The Cushing Marketlink was built and is in service.

les
Reply to  Resourceguy
November 6, 2015 2:45 pm

“the dotted line between Cushing and the Gulf Coast” Yes, that part was finished a couple years ago… It looks like this mapa is a copy of the original Keystone project which actually consisted of two sections. Only the part crossing the border to Canada needed ‘divine’ approval.
On another note while the big environmental debate was focused on the front door of keystone… they built lines all around Nebraska, and some right through it, that accomplished the same purpose. A classic use of distraction… I remember reading about two or three of those lines as they were being put into place… each time one was up for approval there would be another media buzz about keystone… and while all were distracted the others were slipped through the back door.
Impressive.

Julian
November 6, 2015 2:06 pm

You have to wonder what this disingenuous man has lined up for Paris.

Resourceguy
Reply to  Julian
November 6, 2015 2:24 pm

Right, and we find out late in the game as usual

November 6, 2015 2:09 pm

So this isn’t a constitutional amendment, so a President Trump could reverse this stupidity.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  tomwtrevor
November 6, 2015 9:32 pm

And the TAP and the illegal immigration, etc.

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