Friday funny – 97% Pause for a Food fight

Josh writes: The Pause has been in the news this week with the Karl et al paper, the ‘no-you-cant-have-our-emails’ story, and the Meehl paper with comment by David Whitehouse. It looks very much like a food fight to me – cheers again, guys!

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101 thoughts on “Friday funny – 97% Pause for a Food fight

  1. The Hiatus is alive despite the White House’s attempt to erase it. And apparently the rest of the world gets it that the UNFCCC’s Climate Change agenda is a shakedown scam, and Obama and his band of merry socialist elitists are the shakedown artists.

    from: http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/258661-un-climate-pledges-wont-meet-key-goal
    The Hill reports:
    By Timothy Cama – 10/30/15 11:50 AM EDT
    “The United Nations is warning world leaders that the pledges they have submitted to fight climate change will not amount to the goal they had previously agreed to.
    In a Friday report, the U.N.’s framework convention on climate change said that the pledges from just over 150 countries will lead to global warming of 2.7 degrees Celsius by 2100 when compared with pre-industrial temperatures.”
    read more at the link above.

    • These jokers are actually peddling the idea that paying a ransom er I mean a pledge of some X amount of dollars is going to allow us to control the climate. I have no idea why any country would pledge anything for such a silly idea. That they do is more a testament to the power of propaganda than to science.
      I forecast using the latest econo-climate models that even if every country brought their GDP to a standstill, the global economy collapses, millions die, and global climate goes its merry way, ignoring the folly of men as it usually does.
      OK. I’ll cut them a break. When they show me how they are going to warm the earth when the earth inevitably enters a cooling cycle, I’ll pledge free donuts for everyone at the IPCC for a week. Maybe we can get someone else to pledge coffee.

      • There is no hiatus;
        don’t try to debate us,
        because we’ve bought the best science,
        and the best PR status.
        So don’t ask for our data,
        you’ll be just met with laughter;
        for the science is settled,
        from now to hereafter.

      • Tim,
        the data is publicly available and the data, that i have seen so far, has not be scrutinized by any third party and shown to be false. it is the emails that are in question and to what end is anyones guess and there are many here, that is plain to see.
        i would like to request that all WUWT emails be posted for public access.

    • When will these guys realise that they cannot set the temperature in one room of their homes to an accuracy of 2.7 DegC? How do they expect to set the temperature of planet Earth to such accuracy? How can anyone detect the effects of a change in the composition of the Earth’s atmosphere by 0.01% over 70 years (the increase of CO2 since the end of WW2)?
      Here’s an idea – when “climate scientists” can show us that they can model the effects of Natural Climate Change to any accuracy, then (and only then) they can point to the miniscule additional change due to the change of CO2.
      Next they must show why the level of CO2 has increased – how much is due to increased use of coal and oil, etc – and how much is due to the disruption of the “carbon cycle” by e.g. burning and cutting down trees – surely if the “carbon sink” is reduced (by removing millions of square miles of rain forest), there will be an excess of CO2 in the atmosphere?
      Has anyone seen any figures that show by how much the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere will increase when a given volume of rain forest is destroyed?

  2. Let me see If I get this straight. These luminaries at the IPCC are worried about the impact on the human race of 7 tenths of one Celsius degree 100 years from now when they will all be dead and gone, but they don’t have time to agonize over the plight of the millions of people in the world who go to bed hungry every night, or the hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing their homes in the Middle East RIGHT NOW? What is wrong (and oh so phony) with this picture?

      • Mods, no offense to joelobryan, but consider removing the image of a dead child lying in the surf line from this thread.

      • D.J. Hawkins, it happened.
        It is truth presented in context.
        We should face up to the grim reality of war and rumours of war.

      • MCourtney: You are right. I agree with you! (Truth presented in context). If ‘global warming’ can be conquered by merely taxing an insignificant molecule of carbon, then wars – and their effects – should be a thing of the past if only we had an organisation to manage that….oh, you mean the UN is that body? For shame.

      • @MCourtney
        WUWT is global in scope. You are no more than 6-8 connections from almost any person on the planet. Please imagine repeating your comment to the parents of that child as justifying the use of his image to further a political point. Were I the father, clean up would require a body bag and a hose. Mods, I repeat my request.

      • Consider that deeply disturbing picture in the context of the Obama-Kerry Foreign Policy Doctrine. It’s a doctrine that posits a fictional “Climate Change” as the world’s greatest threat. And Tom Karl, Kevin Trenberth, and Gavin Schmidt, men who call themselves “scientists, support that doctrine with their mendacity.
        History will judge these men harshly is my guess. But not in time to save that little child on that beach, but hopefully the next little child.

      • joelobryan, what does the child in your photo have to do with anything other than the fact that boats sometimes capsize in storms? They interviewed the father of this child and he admitted that he left a safe home in Turkey to migrate to Europe so he could get free dental care. The boat capsized and his wife and children drowned. The incident had nothing to do with war refugees or climate change. If anything, Europe’s open-door policy and generous benefits are to blame for encouraging people to take great risks to go there.

      • Louis,
        His family had fled Syria due to the civil war and Assad’s army attacks.
        This war has created a refugee crisis that is sending hundreds of thousands fleeeing for Europe, many taking life threatening routes.
        Meanwhile Obama-Kerry FP doctrine posits Climate Change as the world’s biggest threat. Tell that to the Syrian refugees from both Assad and ISIS, Obama’s JV team. That picture, as horrible as it is, is quite relevant to the CC debate and the UNFCCC’s demand for money. That child did not need a solar panel.

      • No bloody chance dj, dead kid, it happened and as an ex nurse, I’ve seen death in the natural and un-natural state too many times. Dead is dead, got it?

    • Its because human depopulation IS the real agenda. Agenda 21 is the blueprint.
      China fired a huge broadside fusilade at the UN agenda with it announcement yesterday of a Two Child policy.
      China’s population in currently 1,360 million people. Current growth of population and energy consumption estimates are based on the now-discarded 1 Child Policy. Bejing isn’t obligated to set any CO2 emissions caps until 2030. Any reductions the west now sets is both futile and economic suicide. Russia’s Putin and China’s Xi are privately laughing their butts off at the West’s rush to de-carbonize and in the process commit mass suicide/infanticide/genocide of its peoples.

    • +1! I’m from Canada. Our new “caring, inclusive” PM is just like those fools. First thing he does? Commit to commiting to the Paris agreement (without even knowing what it is going to say), and removing our fighter jets from the fight againt ISIS. Way to go. Apperantly he doesn’t care about ‘those’ people…

  3. (y)
    Should pencil in the Pope swinging his bible into someone’s face and shouting, “God Trumps Physics!”
    Ha ha

      • Jeff Alberts:
        How many do you think there are?
        I know of only one to whom many people attribute many different names and who is understood by them in many ways.
        And what the Dickens does this have to do with the mis-named Pause?
        Richard

      • I know of only one to whom many people attribute many different names and who is understood by them in many ways.
        ______________________________________
        You are making it up as you go along again, Rich. Give us any evidence that there is only one god. How do you expect to combat the irrationality of the Green God, if you merely replace it with your own form of irrationality?
        R

    • ralfellis:
      Sadly, you again demonstrate your complete lack of rationality.
      I said,
      “I know of only one {God} to whom many people attribute many different names and who is understood by them in many ways”
      and you have responded,
      “Give us any evidence that there is only one god”.
      I did NOT say I have any evidence that there is only one god.
      Knowing of only one is NOT the same as knowing there is only one;
      but that is a logical statement so I would not expect you to be able to understand it.
      Indeed, you made up your assertion of what I did not say because your posts on WUWT consist almost entirely of stuff you make up. And you accuse me of that – and previously of other things – because you assume I would lower myself to behave as you do. But I don’t.
      The crux of my post was my question; viz.
      “And what the Dickens does this have to do with the mis-named Pause?”
      and in your usual irrational fashion you have ignored that completely.
      Richard

  4. They had to realize they could not simply refuse a Congressional inquiry. That is flat-out insane. And their excuse is that science must only be done in secret? Really?
    My God, what must be in those emails?

    • TD2, at a minimum the explicit decision not to show the uncertainty around their SST adjustment that erased the pause, explicitly per the method of Kennedy 2011. But they forgot that Kennedy did report it– 0.1C +/- 1.7C. In other words, Karl incorporates Huang, and Huang seems fine but is actually statistical garbage. And they both know it. So does Lamar Hunt’s committee, because I provided this forensic analysis previously to Climate Etc (Curry) and to his committee in a written submission.
      Gonna be quite a food fight involving contempt of congress: wilful disobedience of a legitimate subpoena concerning government NOAA science from the science and technology oversight committee.

      • And now Paul Ryan is the new Speaker of The House. So far he has not been a friend/fan of climate change.

    • i would reckon a guess and say lots of things. anything from research schedules to vacation time. i will guess that folks here might have a problem with someone getting vacation time but it does happen, i understand that its shocking.

  5. Ah yes… Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming… The only absolute, planetary-extinction-level, catastrophe ever faced by humankind which is so deadly, so horrific, so overwhelming that the so-called experts in the field cannot even agree on whether it is happening or not. SCARY! Since it is so undetectable, how will we ever know if our carbon taxes are stopping it? How will we know when the boiling oceans have killed us all?

      • i would settle for as cold as it was over 30 years ago when i was a kid. winter these days barely requires a winter jacket.

  6. Well here in Alberta Canada we have come to a sad state of affairs. It matters not that there is warming or cooling, pause or no pause. We now have a provincial socialist “New Democratic Party” (NDP) Gov’t (for you US readers imagine Bernie Saunders squared) dedicated to income distribution and climate change extremism.
    The adoption of the fall budget calls for an increase in the business tax, an oil royalty review, an increase in the carbon taxes, talk of additional cap and trade, no support for additional pipelines of any ilk (I might add Alberta is a land locked territory with no access to tidewater. (China was to purchase Oil Sands crude up 500,000 barrels per day which would bring in at todays pricing 25 million dollars per day 24-7, all that was necessary was to get the oil to the Pacific coast!). All this in the face of 20,000 plus job losses, and cuts of over 12 billion in what were upcoming projects, with more announced every day. Recent quarterly reports for various oil companies now show losses of 100’s of millions, Yet, the new Gov’t continues to pile on kicking the industry when down with all the enthusiasm of a jackbooted skinhead gang.
    No problem! A small gov’t budget deficit of 6.1 Billion is a small price for a population of 4 million to pay to save the world for the rest of you. Of course the accumulating effect of this will greatly exacerbated next year when reality fully bites.
    On the federal front with the election of a Liberal party majority with Leader Justin Trudeau, (the political equivalent of the entertainment world’s Justin Bieber) who will be off to COP21 to do his Facebook Foreign Policy (FFB) looking for “likes” as he intends to promise all and sundry that Canada will now do much better at giving away the farm to the International Anti Carbon club.
    Friends the future is here, read and weep. This is the first major push into the maelstrom following years of a relentless intense domestic and foreign environmental anti Carbon lobbying and protest activities focused upon Alberta, the environment movement’s lab rat. Having a tested and proven success against tiny Alberta, which is being squashed like a bug both from external and internal extremists who have the upper hand now, Alberta and Canada are now in the thrall of the anti industrial, anti anthropocentric, anti development, anti progress gang, they will be up scaling and coming soon to a theater near you.
    I now am beginning to appreciate the meaning of the ideologists mantra.
    “I am right and you are in the wrong. When you are stronger you ought to tolerate me; for it is your duty to tolerate truth. But when I am the stronger I shall persecute you; for it is my duty to persecute error.”
    [The Modern British Essayists: Macaulay, T.B. Essays, pp: 806]
    …..Stay happy my friends.

      • deanfromohio, not at all. INequality is the natural state of human beings, it is built into our nature. So when a regime mandates equality, and 99% of the population are equalised, to maintain the natural amount of inequality, that 1% remaining is propelled to vast heights of power and wealth. One member of the 1% is propelled even higher, to become the “Great Leader” whose photo is compulsory in every home & workplace, with death to any who fail to bow to his image. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, the Korean nightmares with idiotic names, etc. Equality is a false virtue that leads to misery.

    • Getitright,
      Sorry to hear about the political change in Alberta. I lived for 1 year there in support of the initial Syncrude oil sands plant during the startup. While I detested the bitter cold of winter, I have nothing but good feelings about Alberta and the prosperity I saw there with a business friendly government. We had many Canadian friends who made the winter bearable.
      I guess the investment in the oil sands will slow down with a Liberal government in Alberta and Ottawa. Ft McMurray was booming when I lived there and many from other Provinces were working there and making big bucks.
      All the best

    • Don’t depress me please. I await The Empty Hair Boy to follow up on his running away from ISIS with a capitulation to the dictators club called the UN.

    • Alberta was a bastion of free enterprise conservatives, oil workers, cowboys…Until the oil and gas boom and the need to import 100s of thousands of east cost workers who now are voting socialist. They will just go back on the dole – something they know well.

    • Trudeau says he supports the Keystone project while knowing full well there won’t be any pipeline until at least sometime in 2017 if at all. Depends on the outcome of the U.S. 2016 election.
      Money poured into Canada from foreign sources to kill the oil sands.

    • Getitright:
      Actually it is even worse than you stated. One economic group today (Friday, October 30, 2015) forecast up to 150,000 lost jobs due to the knock on effect of the loss of 40,000 to 50,000 primary industry jobs in the “patch” in Alberta. Some small oil companies are on the verge of bankruptcy, the news said Pengrowth Energy would soon be delisted from the stock market. Some people in the east thought this would not affect them but their manufacturing business and financial businesses were tied to providing goods to the oil patch – they just didn’t realize it. GDP in the last three months (June, July August) has been 0.4%; 0.3%; 0.4%. The economist I was listening to today said that given the disaster facing the oil companies, Canada’s GDP could go negative once the numbers are in for September.
      Given the low growth other countries are seeing, I think maybe COP21 is looking at the wrong metrics.
      http://www.fxinter.net/en/free-realtime-forex-news.aspx?ID=131203&direct=Canada+GDP+August+2015
      http://www.worldbank.org/en/publication/global-economic-prospects
      PS – The NDP weren’t elected in Alberta, Jim Prentiss and his team were de-elected.
      The Liberals weren’t elected in Canada, Mr. Harper and the Conservatives were de-elected.
      Canada has a pattern of de-electing governments and making a bad choice in replacing them, usually with folks that love eating from the public trough even more than their predecessors.

    • Getitright: When your countries’ finances start to go the shitter and the employment rate steadily rises, jsut wait till a person with sense stands up and screams ‘enough is enough!!’. That’ll be the person you vote for to get your country back on track. It’s starting to happen in Australia with the Australian Liberty Alliance movement and the ground swell behind is building. Common sense and sane policies is all the everyday Joe voter is looking for and today’s polly scabs are lacking that in spades.

    • the PC party dumped all its eggs into the oil basket and the global oil economy fell apart while the PC were still governing. Alberta lost its only employment source. the NDP, voted in by citizens of the province you live in, are now slated with cleaning up the mess the PC left behind.

  7. The national weather service web site for Southeast Michigan, Detroit/Pontiac has taken down the climate records by the month section on the site. Whats going on? Maybe some adjustments to the records?

  8. With a lengthening surface temperature ‘pause’** and a lengthening lower troposphere temperature ‘pause’** the CO2 ECS reduces further; asymptotically approaching very insignificant sensitivity.
    ** ‘pause’ is silly terminology, the relevant terminology is to simply say no significant change.
    John

  9. “Karl et. al.” didn’t really stick against the wall for long. Neither did “Mann et. al.” (though it took longer to peel off).
    But both have stuck with some. The “some” aren’t always the same people but as long as “the stuck” can continue to be used to advance “the cause”, there will be no serious objections to their conclusions from those who adhere to “the Cause justifies the means”.

  10. When you work on any Government supplied computer the first thing you see is a message that says anything you do on the computer may be monitored. Your emails, documents, instant messaging, etc, none of it can be private.

  11. John Whitman says:” ‘pause’ is silly terminology, the relevant terminology is to simply say no significant change.”
    Nonsense. The correct terminology is ‘end’.

    • Ancient Mariner October 31, 2015 at 8:14 am
      – – – – –
      Ancient Mariner,
      ‘End’ of what? ‘Pause’ of what? ‘Hiatus’ of what? These terms presume something, whereas ‘no significant change’ presumes nothing before.
      John

      • John Whitman:
        Ancient Mariner is correct because the mis-named ‘Pause’ is the “end” of the linear trend of global warming discernible with 95% confidence which existed in the latter decades of the twentieth century.
        If you and other members of the alarmist fifth column dislike ascribing a name to that ‘end’ then use ‘plateau’ because ‘plateau’ is descriptive of the observed lack of a recent discernible trend and does not imply the future trend will be warming or cooling (‘Pause’ implies an interruption to the discernible warming that – as Ancient Mariner says – has ended).
        Richard

  12. The biggest problem the gang has is that they, as a group, walked too far out on the liars limb.
    They long ago left being simply wrong and entered their deceit phase.
    Once they began telling tall tales their safety line of integrity snapped and like so many other kinds of offenders they had to keep adding bigger layers of lies upon the previous ones.
    The common drug addict or marital cheater does this to delay what they refuse to view as inevitable consequences.
    They build a jagged mountain of lies shaped like an upside down pyramid that grows increasingly unstable.
    There can only be one outcome. The whole thing eventually topples.
    The Climate charlatans are not so much fearing being wrong as much as they are petrified over being busted, publicly tried, convicted and shamed for their felony crimes of wholesale, self serving mendacity.
    The entirety of their sphere of existence is facing public condemnation for having done so.
    No doubt more and more of the rats will seek to escape their ugly heap before it topples.
    The rat stampede can’t come soon enough.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JsiA4L3gEs

  13. The biggest problem the gang has is that they, as a group, walked too far out on the liars limb.
    They long ago left being simply wrong and entered their deceit phase.
    Once they began telling tall tales their safety line of integrity snapped and like so many other kinds of offenders they had to keep adding bigger layers of lies upon the previous ones.
    The common drug addict or marital cheater does this to delay what they refuse to view as inevitable consequences.
    They build a jagged mountain of lies shaped like an upside down pyramid that grows increasingly unstable.
    There can only be one outcome. The whole thing eventually topples.
    The Climate charlatans are not so much fearing being wrong as much as they are petrified over being busted, publicly tried, convicted and shamed for their felony crimes of wholesale, self serving mendacity.
    The entirety of their sphere of existence is facing public condemnation for having done so.
    No doubt more and more of the rats will seek to escape their ugly heap before it topples.
    The rat stampede can’t come soon enough.

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