Yesterday we informed you about how France’s lead television weatherman was forced to take a “holiday” in response to him publishing a book that is critical towards climate change alarmism. So far, all the TV network has done is unleash the Striesand Effect, heaping negative attention upon their decision, which is being seen as prohibiting free speech.I’ve heard from people in France, and they are mobilizing a petition:
The petition, written both in English and in French, is here. Please, sign it quickly, regardless of your opinion on climate change, since this journalist is in deep trouble. Thank you to all.English version :Philippe Verdier, a journalist in charge of the weather service of the French public TV channels France Télévisions, is threatened in his job and his career for having published a non-conformist book about climate. Even if he emphasizes that he is not a climate skeptic, Philippe Verdier points out in his book all the erring ways of climate policies. He also criticizes the IPCC and its ideological views that have just nothing to do with science.
The origin of his book is Laurent Fabius’ explicit and recent attempt to get full support of all French weathermen prior to COP21, the international climate conference that will be held in Paris late November. Laurent Fabius is the French Foreign Minister and also the future president of this conference.
In January, citizens from all countries in the world stood up for freedom of speech, with « Je suis Charlie » as a motto. Time has come to stand up again. The Collectif des climato-réalistes call on you to sign this petition regardless of your opinion about climate change.
French version:
Philippe Verdier, journaliste responsable du service météorologique de France Télévisions, est menacé dans son emploi et sa carrière pour avoir publié un livre critique sur la question du climat. Bien que se défendant de tout climatoscepticisme, il pointe dans son ouvrage de nombreux errements dans les politiques menées et le fonctionnement d’institutions telles que le GIEC, devenu l’instrument d’une lutte idéologique parfaitement étrangère à la science.
L’origine de son livre n’est autre qu’une tentative récente et explicite de mise au pas de la presse météorologique française faite par Laurent Fabius. Ce dernier, ministre français des affaires étrangères, est aussi le futur président de la COP21, la conférence internationale sur le climat qui commencera fin novembre à Paris.
Sous le slogan « Je suis Charlie », la France et le monde se sont dressés en janvier pour défendre la liberté d’expression face à l’obscurantisme. Le temps est venu de nous mobiliser à nouveau. Le Collectif des climato-réalistes appelle à signer la présente pétition indépendamment de toute opinion sur la question du climat.
URL of my story: http://mythesmanciesetmathematiques.wordpress.com
Verdier is getting the full Alinsky treatment
http://www.lesinrocks.com/inrocks.tv/gilles-verdier-le-monsieur-meteo-de-france-2-se-fait-demonter-sur-le-plateau-du-petit-journal/
I am going to sign the pétition and ask my friend as well
Ditto, I am signing and passing along via FB. I will consider unfriending anyone who will not sign, even my warmista friends.
This is deplorable.
I have just signed this .. they are trying to block freedom of thought .. let alone thought
OMG this is beyond stupid
“conspiracy rhetoric” (the use of “rhetoric” without justification is empty rhetoric)
“what is the source for”… electricity production? ANYONE curious about energy in France knows the website of RTE with a instant flux, archived data, records etc.
http://clients.rte-france.com/lang/fr/visiteurs/vie/prod/realisation_production.jsp
http://www.rte-france.com/en/eco2mix/eco2mix-mix-energetique-en
Of course no such book needs to back up every number or claim with a reference. Actually, no academic work needs to back up every number!!! imagine: the gravity acceleration, which is about 9.8 (source …) applied to the Newton equation (source ….)
This “Petit journal” couldn’t even compute a percentage: this “small” “journalist” once said that a doubling is an increase of 200%!!!
This guy plays the role of the critical, anti-system guy… this is sick.
Canal+ was known as the TV channel for football and adult movies and they shouldn’t try to do something else!
This after Charlie.
Impossible to understand how this “interview” was conducted after “Charlie”
How can this happen in France?
My interpretation is that this “je suis Charlie” was actually a totally empty gesture, as if people were demonstrating for the right to wear shoes of different colors.
Like Obama defending Sony’s film.
I mean, come on.
who is the owner of canal+
Vincent Bolloré, one of the few billionaires controlling the private media in France (see wikipedia for details)
It’s no wonder no one else speaks out.
You’ve made the crucial point. For every person who is fired for taking a skeptic position, there are a hundred observers who have noted the consequences and are cowed into silence.
Judith Curry over at Georgia Tech has made comments regarding how those who don’t have tenure are afraid to speak out against the Global Warming juggernaut out of fear for their career.
It is worse than that. Richard Lindzen encourages his best students not to work in Climate Science. Why would anyone with any talent or ambition want to work in a field where “the science is settled”. All you end up with is a bunch of mediocre researchers whose only interest is a lifetime ticket at the public trough.
In France isn’t it known as La Terreur ?
Only those who haven’t tenure? Please…
Those have tenure still need grants for his own projects (unless he needs a only a pencil like a few mathematicians, CS theorists (doing math about computers), economy theorists (doing math about models of people), etc.), still want to have doctoral students, etc.
“a lifetime ticket at the public trough.”
That’s all the below average/mentally lazy/slow or incurious need or desire; just enough to get them by; no need to excel….
Away we go! Popcorn out…
I know – I’m loving this book already. And I don’t even have a copy.
It’s been a while since a book provided me with so much entertainment – by merit of it’s mere existence.
I bet that Verdier is enjoying his holiday too. This couldn’t be going better!!
Alas, in France it is the knitting….
Galileo treated this way ,
We are all Galileo now.
There’s a big difference. Galileo could not prove his hypothesis. That’s a good reason for anyone to not accept an hypothesis. Today’s pope should tell the warmmunists that they have to prove that man is causing catastrophic changes to the climate by burning fossil fuels. It would be a blessing indeed (and a miracle too) if the pope were to endorse Verdier’s book.
The pope is likely already knowledgeable that man is not responsible. He needs no proof, as the alarm suits his socialist cause. He also likely knows that his policies are likely to be very harmful to the poor. Many seem to think these people actually want to hear the truth, when in fact they are working very hard to shield themselves from it. The alarmism about climate furthers their agenda of spreading socialism. Socialism helped kill off around 100 million people during the 20th century and is a failed concept.
Let us give the pope the benefit of the doubt. From his actions, I see no reason to believe that he does not think he is doing the right thing for the poor of the planet. He is a professional priest with no scientific training and extremely insulated from the outside world. How COULD he know of the dissenting information? How could he know of the horrible costs and negligible benefits of CO2 reductions?
He is being used, and is just as much a victim as the people who will go hungry due to these policies.
Galileo demonstrated the phases of Venus. That proved Venus circled the sun, and required a huge change in the physical model of the Solar System. He also demonstrated the planetary system around Jupiter.
The simplest explanation of it all was the full heliocentric theory.
Tycho Brahe’s revised Ptolemaic model of the sun plus everything else circling Earth was clearly an attempt to save the ‘Earth doesn’t move‘ idea.
Galileo was persecuted for being stubbornly faithful to science, and for rendering the pope’s arguments into his book from the mouth of a simpleton, and for no other reasons. It was all politics and ego.
Ben: +1
@ Ben of Houston…I thought that I had read the pope had studied chemistry at some point in his life. He should then have a good understanding of the workings of proper science. To my mind this paints him as the Anti-Christ, as he is proposing solutions that will harm the poorest of people on this planet. That is in complete opposition to the tenets of Christ’s teachings.
pope Jean-Paul II for Farben ?
I understood the pope had qualifications in Chemistry, so he ought to be capable of realising that ‘climate “science”‘ is iffy.
fuel is not fossil
have a look at the picture and guesse where is Mr Verdier ??
@ ben’
do you also propose giving “the benefit of the doubt” to Al Gore, Obumer, Gavin, Mister Mann, GP, FOEs …the list is large; they all SAY they are doing the right thing for the poor of the planet.
Perhaps we should give 97% of them Nobel prizes as well.
Alright I stand corrected, the Pope did work as a “chemical technologist” at one point, which from what I can gather is a non-degreed technician in a chemistry lab in the 50s (considering that he was also a janitor during this time, it is not a very prestigious position). However, I maintain that he is extremely insulated from the outside world and has an extremely large number of other concerns. It is unreasonable of us to expect him to have the time or ability to do much in the way on independent research.
And 1save, I thoroughly believe in the “Not Evil Just Wrong” standard until proven otherwise. I say that the hypocrisy exhibited by several prominent alarmists qualifies.
And let’s stop bringing up Galileo. He was realistically convicted in a politically-charged trial of mocking those in power. If you must compare to anyone, let’s bring up the scandal-free Polish canon whose life’s work, though dedicated to the pope, was banned. Je suis Copernicus.
Je suis Galileo.
Galileo sum.
je suis Marcel Leroux
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thYTIcs7P_M
4 oct. 2012 – Ajouté par Télestai
Marcel Leroux : Spécialiste du climat. … Idées reçues sur les changements de climat : Marcel Leroux. Télestai
Je suis Galileo?
Well, no. It wasn’t a scientific disagreement at all. Rather, Galileo made fun of the Pope, foolishly, and the Pope foolishly over-reacted, and each was too proud to retract. So guess who lost.
The Waldensians (Vaudois) to name but few?
Verdier, a man of integrity. To may people and governments have invested their identity and billions in cAGW, they now must crush anyone who challenges the orthodoxy (AGW to big to fail).
True, in the end they will do whatever they want. Blogs like WUWT might even benefit them…
I signed it and posted it on my Facebook…
Moi aussi. I wonder if any of my warmist freedom of speech friends will?
english version? subtitles?
Busy family event right now – essentially the clip i posted shows Verdier being mocked for a missing source on a chart and a poorly pixelated map. He is them accused of being extreme right because his publishing house pulished a book by someone associated with the right. The environment minister is then shown being asked about the book – never heard of it she says. When told of its contents she expresses amazement that a wetherman could be so mistacken. Incidenatally she is the ex of the president of france – has five kids with him.
In the meantime Verdier sounds like Lomborg to me – he ‘denies’ nothing but thinks there is far more to the story than is told.
At the very start he reminds the audience that he’s not some mad fascist – he is gay for petes sake.
Very brave man and i think genuinly shocked by his treatment.
Incidentally the journo starts by accussing him of stage managing the whole thing to sell books
Ségolène Royal, nickname “la dinde du Poitou” (turkey of Poitou), was not able to answer “how much nuclear energy provides (in term of total electric energy) in France” (almost every learns it’s around 75% or 80%), also said that Tchouri (67P) was worth studying because it was not impacted by climate change… she is a gift for the humorists.
She fell in love with a failed electric cars maker, gave it millions of taxpayers’ money and guess what? The car maker went bankrupt.
Here is the lovely Mia car:
http://www.avem.fr/img/vep/mia_electric.jpg
And yes, these gadgets are heavily subsidised.
http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/industrie/automobile/20140731trib000842544/fin-de-mia-electric-l-entreprise-fetiche-de-segolene-royal.html
337 mini cars had been sold for the whole 2012 year, far from the 12,000 expected.
http://www.lepoint.fr/images/2014/05/14/royal-mia-roulante-jpg-2635273-jpg_2273052_660x281.JPG
http://www.lepoint.fr/economie/mia-l-echec-cuisant-de-segolene-royal-14-05-2014-1822968_28.php
In March 2010, the chassis maker Heuliez was in very bad shape. Ségolène Royal says she help Heuliez to make a viable electric car business. Heuliez is cut: half chassis maker, half electric car maker. The later part is called “Mia”. () The region of Poitou buys shares of Mia (no other region dared to do such thing).
Adding the subsidies to Eco&Mobilité(*) (another electric car maker), Ségolène Royal spent (according to her politician opposition) about 20 millions euros on electric car businesses.
(*) a name I think I have never heard before today
When asked on TV about the Mia meltdown, she replied “the failure seems to make rightwing politicians happy”. The “journalist” never came back at her to obtain an answer about millions spent.
I agree. The interviewer was not there to discuss with Verdier. He was there to attack him from the start.
The attack was about superfluous charts. Nothing serious about what Verdier has written.
I can’t believe this is happening on France television.
Life is short. So is tire life 🙂
Yeah, indeed. I think I signed, but I am not sure. Hey, France – the world speaks English….. !! The French are really infuriating.
You know the only place in Europe where air traffic control will not speak English to everyone? Yes, France.
So the place where pilots have no idea what the other pilots are saying or doing? Yes, France.
So the place where ATC speaks the worst English, and cannot convey what they want pilots to do, especially in emergencies? Yes, France.
The national airline in Europe with the worst safety record? Yes, France.
A bit unfair. If you want to go to VFR airports you will need to speak (and understand) French. If you fly IFR, all the controllers speak English.
and you why don’t you speak french
RF, I speak both languages (plus fluent German). And signed in both. On their website, the exact English translation is just below the French version. Don’t gripe, sign. If you dare.
The pilots and the crew speaks english –
“where ATC speaks the worst English”
Worst in the world?
You must be joking.
Did you mean: worst in Europe?
>>And you why don’t you speak French?
There are dozens of languages in Europe.
Which one should I learn?
The French got themselves in a tangle when they suggested that a serious incident at Charles de Gaulle could have been avoided if the Czech pilots had spoken French. To which the reply came: “Are French pilots going to speak Czech when they come to Prague?”
Another English pilot got his head chopped off at GDG, when a similar French mix up resulted in a wing slicing through the cockpit. Again it was concluded that had ATC been speaking English, as required by ICAO, the accident would not have happened.
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>>Did you mean: worst in Europe?
Yes. Sorry, should have been more specific.
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>>If you fly IFR, all the controllers speak English
No they don’t. That is the problem. They speak French to the French pilots, so you have no idea where they are or what they are doing. And because the controllers get less practice at English, both at work and privately, their English is the worst in Europe.
R
ralfellis,
Numerous US pilots seem to manage to get into French airports IFR every day without language problems.
If you’re worried about where other IFR planes are then you need TCAS in your panel or the Plane Finder app on your phone.
Not Spanish; Mandarin; or in Canada Franglais? 😉
Top 10 languages:
http://dailynewsdig.com/top-ten-spoken-languages-world-2014/
My understanding is that local airports use local language. The rules for International Airports may be as follows (information is old):
User currently offline9VSRH From Australia, joined Apr 2005, 132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted Fri Mar 6 2009 04:13:04 your local time (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
The universal ATC language is English. However, in some countries, such as France, China, Spain (and some Latin American countries), and Russia pilots/controllers from the same country speak their own native languages.
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Reply 2, posted Fri Mar 6 2009 04:41:06 your local time (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting Vietsky (Thread starter):
was wondering what language the Control Tower and Air Traffic Control are using to communicate with Pilots if the Pilots are from the same country. Does it have to be in English as a standard?
Each state can define this for themselves, but English is a minimum requirement.
ICAO defines this:
“In which languages does a licence holder need to demonstrate proficiency?”
Amendment 164 to Annex 1 has introduced strengthened language proficiency requirements for flight crew members and air traffic controllers. The language proficiency requirements apply to any language used for radiotelephony communications in international operations. Therefore, pilots on international flights shall demonstrate language proficiency in either English or the language used by the station on the ground. Controllers working on stations serving designated airports and routes used by international air services shall demonstrate language proficiency in English as well as in any other language(s) used by the station on the ground.
Remember the Dreyfus affair? A lot of powerful people thought they could hide an embarrassing decision by sacking a scapegoat. It didn’t work then, and it won’t work now.
J’accuse!!!
To actually remember the resolution of the Dreyfus affair in 1906, one would need to be about 120 years old. Although I am an old (and somewhat dodgy) geezer, I am not old enough for that!
The Dreyfuss Affair was a key moment in the history of the West. It crystallised the opposition to anti-Semitism; it allowed the Nazis no excuse.
You should at least know the Wiki notes.
http://bacdefrancais.net/j-accuse-zola-texte.php
despite what he did, it seems that Emile Zola never received any thanks or congratulations from Dreyfus or his family
I remember I read a book once.
@ Menicholas…I think that I read that very same book.
Dreyfus was convicted by a lawful court of justice after a regular procedure, etc. (a sort of peer review)
Those who disagree with the conclusions of the trial must entertain ideations or even worse, d—-l.
For those who don’t know (or already know) about the Dreyfus affair should read the fantastic novel by Robert Harris:
An Officer And A Spy.
you should read Emile ZOLA too “j’accuse”
Form the “Modern Age Galileo Society”
“We will not submit to house arrest inside our own minds.”
Signed.
France should be utterly ashamed of this – liberte, egalite, fratenite – but not for climate sceptics, they fought for their rights but their politicians have taken them away….brilliant (sarc)
Signed (over 600 now). They are trying to reach 1000.
Over 1,000 signed – they upped the goal to 1,500.
Over 1,500 signed – they upped the goal to 2,500.
This has turned out to be France’s worst PR problem prior to the Conference . Yet they brought it upon themselves. If the French public television management disagreed with Verdier’s views expressed by him and his book , all they had to do, was to announce publically ” The views of Mr Verdier as expressed in his book and in public are his own personal opinions and in no way represent the views of this television network nor its management. However in the spirit of universal right for freedom of expression we support his right as weatherman to state these in public “.
My understanding is management supported – its the unions calling for his head
So management wanted to hide it.
But unions wanted to launch a firework display with extra flags and dancing on disco balls?
No. This is unthinking bigotry offended by a new “blasphemy”.
I signed it. Deselected both of the boxes about sending me a bunch of spam and something about my signature appearing in change.org posts. Regardless, the privacy statement says
Guess I’ll have to unsubscribe. I am not a fan of change.or by any means. And I’m not sure if any of these petitions have any effect whatsoever.
Have a look at the “Change.org” members, quite impressive list of academics, many of them engineers, who did already a lot of work as skeptics. One of them is István Markó, who leads a similar (smaller) organization in Belgium, which invited a.o. Fred Singer, Klaas Johnson, Lindzen,..
One of the members of both groups completely torpedoed the would-be new president of the IPCC, J.P. Van Ypersele during a television debate. Since then J.P. refuses any direct debate, but did sabotage the invitation of Singer and Johnson at the Free University of Brussels, which got on in private.
But I agree, unwanted mails is not the best way to make friends… If the petition will have success indeed is questionable, all depends of if the media will pick it up…
In my browsers, one can always move unwanted stuff to spam. The smart filters learn what is spam by those repeated actions.
I did not deselect, since was curious to run the experiment whether this organization would stoop to selling petition email adresses to spammers. I am betting NOT. But if I lose the bet, there is a simple manual fix that just takes a few days to implement.
Heck, my email is already 3/4 spam automaticaly consigned to the circular bin file by my robocops.
I doubt signatures from the US will carry much weight.
With COP21 coming up, I would think it is important to send a Global Message. SIgned and posted to Facebook.
Well, gotta get back outside to my winterization projects cause snow is in the forecast. Minus 6C last night. Global Warming – Bring it on (52 N in the foothill of Alberta, Canada) 😉
Cause I live in the Baja, they have me listed as Mexico (which is true) The drop-down menu didn’t have the United States for me…
In fact, signatures from overseas are likely to be counterproductive when the warmists say “look this petition was circulated worldwide and only achieved a million supporters”.
may be you are right, but laurent fabius, the great organizer of the COP 21 in paris (early december) is also the French Minister of Foreign Affairs, which underlines the political dimension of this big (not so fancy) fair. and this buzz (with a little help of all your friends) can seriously tarnish the image of his “Affairs” and jeopardize (a little bit more) the outcomes of this big carnaval show
So reply in French. llya Francoise d’en L’Amerique.
Are you trying to say: “Il ya des Français en Amérique”?
No offense. Maybe you should stick to English.
do not doubt – I event think that they will be annoyed of that
for those who talk about the french revolution – yesterday October 16, it was the anniversary of the execution of Marie-Antoinette : October 16, 1793 (and we do not need any “vagin de la reine” in Versaille ‘s garden)
the french revolution has been fomented by the free masons (and Lafayette was a free masons)
That would be the 222 year anniversary.
Thanks for the warning, Anthony.
Philippe Verdier has a right to think independently, but France’s socialist government has taken it away to better serve their misguided purposes.
This is what socialism is; tyranny. We must not surrender.
As it turns out, I’m on a Rhone river cruise for the next few days, and I’ve been asking ordinary French if they’ve heard this news. Yes, most have, and those that have think it an insult to free speech.
And my Google news searches don’t turn up any ABC NBC CNN NPR etc stories on this issue. Why am I not surprised?
Okay new watch word “J’accuse” scream it from the roof tops
origins, http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/zolas-jaccuse-letter-is-printed, I think the comparison is good.
Josh calling josh, possible cartoon, Minister of the ” climate Republic” evoking the 97% consensus with Philippe Verdier stepping up in the frame calling “J’accuse” ! next frame Madam Guillotine snapping down.
Minister continuing on about the 97% Or just indulge yourself.
J’ACCUSE
S’il vous plaît?
michael duhancik
Vive la Resistance
Signed
on n’est pas charlie –
Signed.
“Je suis Charlie” et “Je suis Philippe Verdier”
780 signatures up to now – mine included – and counting…
A few more including mine
and mine as well , and family
Sacre bleu! How much more stupid can France Télévisions get?
John
Signed …. over 800 now.
Signed – 177 to go
me also
michael
Signed–870 now
Just signed.
John
Vive la Resistance
Signed
Signed
78 needed to reach 1,000
It would be odd if the most signatures come from an english language blog the most ardent defendant of a Frenchman’s free speech.
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Liberté, égalité, fraternité, Not unless you follow the “Teaching of GAIA”….
Signed and pointed out that France Televisions would have sacked Galileo – and added ‘Je suis Philippe Verdier’.
I made it 950…
Signed, 60 to go
Regards
Climate Heretic
signed
I believe it went to 971 when I signed; 29 to go.
Signed… 12 more to
almost fair coverage in NY Mag – the first crack in US MSM denial of this story – with a typo in the final line.
not getting much sympathy so far from the few who are commenting – perhaps some would like to add their views:
16 Oct: New York Mag: Elaine Godfrey: Famous French Weatherman Publicly Doubts Climate Change, Goes on ‘Forced Holiday’
A well-known French weatherman has been put on an indefinite “forced holiday” after writing a book criticizing climate-change research and saying that, even if it does exist, it will probably have some very positive effects, including more tourists, lower death rates, lower electricity bills in the winter, and higher-quality wine…
The French newspaper Le Monde criticized his book, saying it was full of “errors,” but Verdier certainly isn’t alone in thinking that global warming might actually be pretty cool:
•University of Sussex economist Richard Tol and Copenhagen Business School professor Bjørn Lomborg produced a report in 2013 claiming that climate change makes agriculture more productive, reduces heating costs, and reduces death due to freezing, according to Bloomberg…ETC
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/10/french-al-roker-casts-doubt-on-climate-change.html
hope those who use twitter will start some hashtages #iamphilippeverdier or whatever.
Blatant suppression of a view that exposes flaws in the official line is the what defines a fascist regime. When the truth is suppressed, all that must be left is untruths. Only lies will emerge to patch the errors in the narrative.
signed
just hit 1000…
I was #1,001.
They seem to have changed the number of signatures required to reach their goal … to 1,500. WUWT?
they can get even more if everybody share the message with a few friends
They’ve now changed the ‘goal’ to 2,500. What kind of website is that? It’s beginning to feel like an AGW alarmist site where they keep changing the goalposts.
Changing the target is done automatically by the petition template of change.org. We are not directly involved in that. Sorry if this could be disturbing for some of you.There is no tricky game from our side.
I guess they do it to put targets that seem reachable. In management this is called putting SMART targets: Specific, Measurable, ACHIEVABLE, Result oriented, Time bounded. But this is just a personal nterpretation.
“they keep changing the goalposts”
Apparently they get more to sign that way, a lot of sites do that these days;
if the real goal is 1,000,000 & they’ve only got 88, you think its hopeless & so don’t sign.
if the goal is 100 & they’ve got 88 you think you can make a difference & you do sign.
When it gets to 99 change the goalposts to 200 & you appear to be 50% to the goal, (Achievable).
Not the seemingly un-achevable 0.005%
I think the idea came from the Harvard business school.
Henri Masson
1saveenergy
Thank you both for responding. I will stop being paranoid, now. Well, except for having to provide my street address … that’s still kind of freaking me out.
Beeing a sceptical green one, I have signed an written a comment there. Do the same–
Let us recognize the fact that allowing a high profile French AGW skeptic to go unpunished with the UN conference on climate change to happen in Paris in the next couple of months, looks bad for the French.
serves him right, I mean fafa (fabius) and also nicolas hulot
M Hulot could perhaps be persuaded to go on holiday? Saint-Marc-sur-Mer is very nice in December.
Signed it
Australian MSM – arguably the most CAGW-infested in the world – has completely ignored this story to date. not a word from taxpayer-funded ABC or from the influential Murdoch press (apart from a blog).
Australia’s peak science body, CSIRO, stopped doing this annual survey after they got this result:
Feb 2014: JoNova: Australia: more skeptics than believers, and few really care about “Climate change”
First up, despite the endless repetition in the media that the science is settled and the evidence is overwhelming, the latest CSIRO survey (LINK) shows 53% of the Australian population don’t agree that “humans are causing climate change”. When the ABC gives 50% of its climate budget and time to skeptical arguments we will know it is fulfilling its charter. Right now, the ABC serves less than half the population…
http://joannenova.com.au/2014/02/australia-more-skeptics-than-believers-and-few-really-care-about-climate-change/
there may not be a majority at ABC who share the sceptical views of the 53% in the CSIRO study, but there must surely be a very significant number who do.
YET NOT ONE TAXPAYER-FUNDED ABC PRESENTER/JOURNALIST HAS EVER HAD THE COURAGE TO DO WHAT PHILIPPE VERDIER HAS DONE.
bravo Philippe Verdier.
Australia is asleep right now – they will wake up, you’ll see…
I am sure there are a couple of ABC presenters who have reservations about CAGW and some would be aware of this blog. Enormous courage would be required of them to just voice their doubts because in Oz vilification of people holding contrary views is considered compulsory by a lot of the Australian MSM journos and TV presenters who because they have over-inflated egos are far more interested in voicing their own opinions than asking hard questions of both sides on an issue and doing the hard groundwork to find out facts. The ABC has completely and pathetically failed to give balanced reporting on CAGW despite more and more people starting to question it.
http://carbon-sense.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/battle-in-paris.pdf
I very rarely sign petitions. I did sign this one.
UK -Guardian the AGW bastion
France 2 channel’s Philippe Verdier told not to return to work for foreseeable future after writing book which throws doubt on findings of leading scientists..
In the book, Verdier throws doubt on the findings of leading climate scientists and political leaders, saying they have “taken the world hostage”. It is timed to coincide with France’s hosting of a major UN climate summit in December.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/15/philippe-verdier-french-weatherman-question-climate-change
Pierre Gosselin has an article that links to what a separate list, the “Collectif des climato-réalistes”. It’s mostly French, a few tidbits in English which invite people to send name/profession/(URL?) to get listed. Worth checking out, especially if you’re French or get particularly annoyed at retribution like this.
Viva La Streisand Effect!
http://notrickszone.com/2015/10/16/meterologist-verdier-fights-back-petition-against-laurent-fabiuss-orwellian-style-tactics-and-fear-of-climate-chaos/
signed
Is the book available in English & from where ??
this link is for the french version
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Climat-investigation-Philippe-Verdier/dp/B00YWYMUK8/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1445033168&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Philippe+Verdier+climate+investigation
The book of Philippe Verdier is presently being translated in English and Anthony will be informed as soon as the English version will be available. I guess some information will be given in due time on this website.
Philippe is speaking decent (continental) english with a frenchy accent (as I do) and has been interviewed a few hours ago by the BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p035dk68
Thanks Henri, I think we should all get a copy to show support
I’ll tell this to Philippe. A good motivation for hurrying up the translation….and some balm on his wounded hearth.
Goede morgen Henri,
Nice to see all reactions here… I have followed his interview, but am pessimistic about the outcome: maybe he will be reinstated in his job, but I don’t think he ever will be allowed to say a word about COP21. That is far too sensitive for the current government… I am a little jealous about what your group can do in France and the French speaking part of Belgium, Flanders still is sleeping and the media don’t allow much criticism on that point…
Goede morgen Ferdinand.
I’ll be back in Belgium end of next week and I would like to meet you and brainstorm together on some “subversive actions” able to shake a little bit the public opinion in Flanders, and force the local media to tell the truth about IPCC and the COP21. mMy be also, if still possible, to brief correctly the Belgian government before the COP21 in Paris (with a little help of our good friends, well in place in the local Establishment).
Don’t be too modest. Everybody here respect your knowledge and values your contributions to the discussions.
Also, your support, and the one of your friends, in “tackling toughly” van Yperseele (the finally non elected Belgian candidate to the IPCC chairmanship), after he censored a conference of Fred Singer I tried to organize in Brussels has been highly appreciated.
And we are just warming up (to cite Larry King, now retired from CNN)……
Signed
I am a stalwart sceptic but would much prefer to sign a petition with name and address only, without my Email. You never know how the Email address will be used.
See comment above. Your email is needed to legitimize your signature. I have only one WW. Worried about spam? Select any such stuff and moveto spam folder. The smart filters are AI programs that learn email adresses Nd topics and will move automatically (well, in my two browsers).
Just do not do on line banking except through secure channels, even then minimize, and beware phishing attacks. I get several every week. Plus always have a never on line banking backup, just in case.
Just use your junk email address…
A real, physical letter, signed in ink and posted with a stamp that costs, trumps a 1,000 online petitions any day
I can guarantee your e-mail address will never been used by “le collectif” for any other purpose than this sole petition. But, please understand that for the credibility of our action, we must be able to proof eventually that each support given to the petition is real and is not generated by a computer program; or that one same person does not bring in several signatures or posts.
We think that Identifying you by an e-mail address is safer for you than with a precise physical address, I am quite sure you agree with that.
On the other hand we use your e-mail address as a filter forbidding you multiple support to the petition. Of course you could use different e-mail addresses, from different PoPs (points of presence) and eventually through public wifi connections. Well, this is not foressen by our software (I think), but if you go that way you must be really mortivated, a little bit naughty and clever. I will have no other choice than congratulate you for the efforts yo made to support our cause..
Of course we may be victim of a cyber attack hacking our address book, just like any other site, and as happened to us this morning actually; However I think we have shown that we are able to defend ourself quite properly against such intrusions (the hackers could only block the access to the site for a while) and that we are thus as safe as any other site on which you login with your email address.
e-mail Bill O’Reilly at Fox. He publicized the Rico story about muzzling free speech, and now here’s another one.
Signed. The totalitarian scum must be resisted.
V for Vendetta – Remember, remember the 5th of November!
Signed now 1,115
Ben says
“Let us give the pope the benefit of the doubt”
Not a chance.
Here we have an individual with massive connections and resources at his disposal. Clearly disregarding common sense alone which should incur serious doubt about the over-hyped claims regarding AGW he tends to ignore even the most basic logic and support a ludicrous position based upon the most unscientific tenets that have been postulated in the history of man, with the exception of his religious screed of course. There are only two alternatives in his case, either he knows not yetchooses to side with the AGW gang, or he knows the falsity of the claims and chooses to side with the AGW gang. In both instances he is both incorrect and immoral, not a good place for the Vicar of Christ to be-but hey, he is continuing the long tradition.
FREE CO2-SAVE THE PLANET.
Just like the ABC in Oz which has massive resources available to it to do a little homework but won’t for fear of discovering a few indisputable facts and logical flaws that contradict their position, which of course should be neutral.
“Let us give the pope the benefit of the doubt”
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surely he is guided by divine wisdom and doesn’t require our forgiveness. What better way to hide this Society of Pederasts? The working of the Lord are beyond our understanding. or so we are told. bunch on hypocritical old child fzckers more likely.
I really think he knows (i am a roman catholic) – don’t forget he is a “jesuite” – and maybe the last pose
CO2 : “le CO2 est innocent” by François Gervais – I read the book – interesting, but I am not a scientific
sorry, please read : pope
It is clictivism, but I signed to show that people do notice these things.
Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia on October 16, 2015 at 3:32 pm
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Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia,
First time to see the term ‘clictivism’. Johnny likes it. Do you mind if I use it?
John
Signed it just now.
Sign it, please.
https://www.change.org/p/remy-pfimlin-pr%C3%A9sident-de-france-t%C3%A9l%C3%A9visions-pour-que-philippe-verdier-soit-confirm%C3%A9-dans-son-emploi-%C3%A0-france-t%C3%A9l%C3%A9visions
1,195 supporters right now
305 needed to reach 1,500
I signed.
I am no number.
I just want to be free.
1,231
Last time I checked french Amazon, his book was sold out.
So quick, Amazon, buy in more copies. Urgently.
I also noticed that “the Hockey Stick Illusion” is now £30+ minimum price for a used copy!!
I should have bought it for the cover price when it came out.
A private seller is already asking for £45 for Verdiers book.
Which tells us something about supply and demand.
So…things are going exactly according to plan. Mwahaha…
I’ve signed – with a statement of support in terrible French! I hope they will understand.
Fabius has a certain notoriety in England for his sympathetic remarks about the British. This is in character.
RCS,
I was thinking of stating my reason for signing the petition in French. But, I chose to do so in my native English because my only French language education was 2 years of French class in high school in New York State (1965-1966). I got top of the class grades but …… that is the last time I used French …. its been almost 50 years. NOTE: I think the two most beautiful languages to the ear when spoken are French and Mandarin.
: )
John
signed, thank you!
I signed it, and I seldom sign petitions.
As far as I can see, Philippe Verdier is simply being honest. He was told to be dishonest, and simply wouldn’t stand for it. Therefore, because he didn’t do what he was told, he is to be punished.
The message the French government is attempting to send seems clear: If you do not tow the line, it doesn’t matter how established or popular you are, they will strip you of your job, your income and your dignity.
This sort of bullying is tyranny, and must be opposed. Some may be frightened and cowed, however those who own a shred of courage must take a stand. Rather than thinking they created a cowed public, the government must see they made a big mistake, and roused a sleeping giant.
Rather than cowing opposition on the eve of their wingding in Paris, they must see that they have once again shot the foot they planted squarely in their own mouths.
Rather than seeming politically wise and adroit for being bullies, they must see they are clumsy buffoons.
Rather than the wingding in Paris being a propaganda extravaganza, suggesting Alarmist save the oppressed, it may well be turned right around, and suggest Alarmists oppress the saviors.
Therefore I urge all, and most especially those who love Truth in France, to object loudly and strenuously to the dastardly way Philippe Verdier has been treated.
No matter how small your voice may be, remember, as I do, that it takes only one pebble to start an avalanche.
I signed, and I never sign petitions. (I usually feel it’s pointless, too late, too generic, etc. This one is not – I think.)
Signed – what I think is most encouraging is that people are starting to see value in countering at least the obvious corruption and strong-arming. To me it shows that the group-think has finally peaked, and we will be starting to see improvement. People will argue about the methods, and eventually start disputing the science. Not saying it will happen anytime soon, but this is encouraging … On a related note, I don’t think I had fully realized until now how frankly frightening such rabid devotion to any cause can be. Being Italian I have read a lot about fascism for my entire life, but only recently did I start to truly understand what it must have been like.
Reblogged this on pattikellar and commented:
OMG People. Come ON! Punished for being skeptical about a hypothesis??? Where the hell is Charlie Now!!!????
“Where the hell is Charlie Now!!!????” They must be afraid of the climatists. They are the ones who can really cause you harm.
Signed.
Her Generale, God Emperor by Birth foretold in ancient hebrew scripts, François Gérard Georges Nicolas Hollande will not be pleased.
Paris (forget France) is counting on Trillions by the second of Francs pouring into the City from the World, like a cosmic black hole, during UNFCCC COP21.
This flow of money is Paramount, and ordained by God to Paris. It cannot be stopped! Death to the Infidel who tries. Glory to the Rose Line of Christ the Conquistador drinking the Blood of Man in the dark of the night.
During COP21 Philippe Verdier will be arrested, detained, toured, beaten and brought before the world on camera, naked, to answer to his High Crimes and Treasons against the Church of Anthropogenic Global Warming.
No matter his words. The Troll with a whip will lash him as he tries to speak.
He is Guilty, Guilty and must be punished by torture (on Camera, to the pleasure of Obama) and decapitation after death according to Old French Law (Muslim) with a wink from Obama, The New Son Of Humanity.
It is done. He will die. His body burns in a ditch, unmarked, except for the body of dead dog beside him without “God’s” Climate Warming blessings.
AAAHHHHH Blessed Be God The Highest.
Signed as 1425.
Done.
Done
I signed, but I fear I was pretty pompous about it. I said that as one who feels the need for freedom of speech it was my duty, my honour, and my pleasure to sign.
I meant every word. But it was still pompous.
Truly, you are French.
Huguenot on my father’s side. Very perceptive of you.
I signed, too, with one word:
Freedom.
(And that was pompous, too. But I meant every word of it.)
signed 1450!
Remember it is 4-5 am there right now that is why the slow down should pick up soon but a poor site never heard of them and as others said I’ll have to find out how well my anti-spambot works.
I signed as 1,499.
Change.org server seems to have problems.
So I see. Sabotage can’t be ruled out.
I’ll check out with the webmaster. He will try to fix the problem asap
William Connolley thinks he’s amusing…. at least he links to the telegraph.
all in all, the Verdier story remains at 20-something results in the main media grouping on google. no AP, Reuters to help spread it around and no MSM interest in reporting any CAGW scepticism, however mild.
16 Oct: Science Blogs: Frances, top weatherman
Posted by William M. Connolley
It (it? Philippe Verdier, possibly-ex-weatherman) is all a bit silly, but here’s a snapshot from the Torygraph if you like. Its the same old stuff: We are hostage to a planetary scandal over climate change – a war machine whose aim is to keep us in fear… I received a letter telling me not to come. I’m in shock… This is a direct extension of what I say in my book, namely that any contrary views must be eliminated. Apparently the IPCC “blatantly erased” data that was contrary to their conclusions. Yawn…
http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2015/10/16/frances-top-weatherman/
Uh oh.
The server is misbehaving.
You can try refreshing the page, and if you’re still having problems, just try again later. We’re doing our best to get things working smoothly!
Dunno. It is not beyond the French government to use ANSSI as a weapon in cases like this and it is certainly not beyond the Agence nationale de la sécurité des systèmes d’information to use dirty tricks. Change.org does not have an outstanding security record.
Error 502 Ray ID: 236a07cefeef0ab4 • 2015-10-17 06:43:42 UTC
Bad gateway
La révolution française, of course.
Oh oh, sounds like France might be involved in Weather Cooking again:
Wow, just replace the words “weather cooking” by “computer models” and there is a very good parallel with current times…
When was that speech delivered?
Uploaded Dec 2008
I signed. However. Doesn’t the world realize the best thing out of France is an empty airplane? They are the most useless, trouble starting humans on the planet? Doesn’t anybody read history anymore? The stupid burns.
I try not to blame whole countries for the goonery of their elites . . ‘member freedom fries? ; )
simple-touriste October 16, 2015 at 6:32 pm
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=fr&u=http://www.eco-mobilite.com/&usg=ALkJrhg7MzVO7Kvh081qCWMFbMKUmy_6PA
Apparently he original link to the petition given by Anthony has been “damaged” (guess by who?). it seems to be have been blocked at a Gateway in Marseille (France)
If you did not yet sign the petition, please use the direct link which is still active (for the moment?)
https://www.change.org/p/remy-pfimlin-président-de-france-télévisions-pour-que-philippe-verdier-soit-confirmé-dans-son-emploi-à-france-télévisions
Obviously you cant have people on TV who tell the truth. That defeats the purpose of mass media.
The link at the top of the page to the video where ‘he explains his ideas and book’ seems to be down, and labelled as private by the author.
Anyone know what happened??
May be Anthony has an explanation.
I’ll check from my side with the webmaster of the petition and with Philippe verdier directly, if I can reach him (during the WE).
Philippe has also a podcasted interview in English with the BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p035dk68
Ah – it has returned!
😉
Vincent Bolloré, one of the few billionaires controlling the private media in France (see wikipedia for details)
Follows the Francs. 🙂
a friend of sarko – the man with a yacht
Signed and remarked…# 1845
oups sorry, my last post was an answer to a question by ratuma.
Mistake corrected
counter at 2111 but I don’t seem to be able register my support for Philippe Verdier in thier poll. Nothing happens when I click the button.
Not a world shattering response in any case.
I should think that splashing there stupid “climaterealiste” name right across the top probably ensured no one from the other side of the debate will be voting out of a conciencious call for freedom of speach.
Nice move “Collectif des climato-réalistes”, not so strong on political reasism are we?
Please try again. Our server got some trouble. Overcrowded? Cyberattack?(the French Government has a special cyberteam to silence climato-skeptics…).
Who know but the website of the petition is again operational.
Sorry for unconvenience…
La grande nation. Craignant de la mondialisation. Napoléon, le
premier européen. Vous ne serez pas à genoux devant le thermomètre.
Hans
Cold weather certainly conquered Napoleon in Moscow in 1812.
Vive le changement climatique , alors !!
non c’est plutôt “Charlemagne” –
concerning “‘l’europe” non ” the european union ” we do not want it – we did not want it – many tks to Robert Schuman – Jean Monnet and the USA
2,137 supporters right now
363 needed to reach 2,500
So what happens at 2500 ? If that level of support gets sent to the head of TF2 and he has how many tens of millions of french viewers, he will probably be more encouraged to sack him next week, not less.
It would have been smarter to present it as a neutral petition in favour free speech than to rub everyone who goes for the climate alarmism up the wrong way by the confrontational “Collectif des climato-réalistes”
It’s done now, but not smart.
At first sight you are right, of course.
But we (the Collectif…) have the feeling (without formal proof, so far…) that all this has been orchestrated by Laurent Fabius, who is at the same time in charge of organizing the coming COP21, but who is also Minister of Foreign Affairs of France (which underlines the international political dimension of the first of his two tasks). We think that, as Minister of F.A, he must be attend to the image of his vertuous(?) nation (an important part of the strategic plan and electoral promises of President Hollande).
Remember also that the Declaration of Human Rights (including Freedom of Speech…) is a French invention, written in the wake of the French Revolution.
Making from the case of Philippe Verdier an international “buzz” (thanks to the support of all of you) is a way to highlight internationally (and remember Fabius is Minister of F.A….) the contradictions exhibited by this government (hosting the COP21…) between acts (I mean censorship) and statements (I mean being a vertuous natiion). A real shame actually.
By this way we have, all together, a fantastic tool to tarnish the image of that government, positioning himself as a leader of politically correctness, including the promotion of all the warmist utopies we know all too well.
Who knows what happens? The important thing is this move has already pushed the French government into an even deeper hole. They have apparently initiated a cyber attack on change.org, whose server is located in California, US, at CloudFlare. I guess they failed to obtain a license from American authorities in advance to do that, much less from CloudFlare, which has all kinds of interesting implications. They might have come to their senses in the meantime, heeding the law of holes though. Anyway, the first lesson to learn for both sides is that governments are not all that powerful after all.
They may try to block access from inside France, the technical means are given, mainly due to the child porn farce. However, there is no way to do that in secret. Once the French public becomes aware of the deed and word starts spreading via social media, the the govt’s cause is lost.
Provided, of course, the French is still the free people they were rumored to be, instead of a freedom loving one. That’s the only important point. If they are not ready to rally en masse to protect freedom of speech, “Collectif des climato-réalistes” or not, they’re doomed anyway.
Who knows what happens? The important thing is this move has already pushed the French government into an even deeper hole. They have apparently initiated a cyber attack on change.org, whose server is located in California, US, at CloudFlare. I guess they failed to obtain a license from American authorities in advance to do that, much less from CloudFlare, which has all kinds of interesting implications. They might have come to their senses in the meantime, heeding the law of holes though. Anyway, the first lesson to learn for both sides is that governments are not all that powerful after all.
They may try to block access from inside France, the technical means are given, mainly due to the child porn farce. However, there is no way to do that in secret. Once the French public becomes aware of the deed and word starts spreading via social media, the the govt’s cause is lost.
Provided, of course, the French is still the free people they’re rumored to be, instead of a freedom loving one. That’s the only important point. If they are not ready to rally en masse to protect freedom of speech, “Collectif des climato-réalistes” or not, they’re doomed anyway.
His revelation about foreign minister Lauren Fabius meeting all the TV weather presenters and pushing them to repeatedly talk about climate chaos is appalling but not that surprising.
I guess that would have caused some ructions.
His labour union ‘Force Ouvrier’ seems to be backing him. Must be great to go into a discussion with management holding a big red banner with FO written on it !
I have no ideas of the political positioning of Philippe Verdier. In France, between well educated people we agree to avoid political or religious confrontations (remember, we had religious wars for centuries between protestants and catholics and all the wounds are still not healed, believe me). On the other hand, our Collectif is open to any “honest man” (in the renaissance meaning of the word), without political or religious believes or affiliations discrimination.
This being said, it is common in the French public sector to be affiliated to a union, and indeed those are highly politicized. The unions of course organize strikes (a systemic weakness for the French economy) and they are also, by Law the sole social partner allowed in the Conseil d’Entreprise, where organization and manpwer problems are debated.
But also, they provide legal support to their affiliates in case of trouble with the direction. This is why, preventively, Philippe Verdier used their umbrella, just in case…
Also, he played quite cleverly one union (F.O.) against another (CGT), as the attack aimed to get him sacked came precisely from that other union.
Well this is just my personal opinion and I share it completely with myself 😉
Salut Henri,
I have no idea either, from some of what I’ve read I’m not sure I’d support what he says for the most part ( he says he believes ‘climate change’ is real ) but that does not affect my support for his right to publish his book without getting harrassed by his employer.
I read some unions were calling for his dismissal, showing their untennable position and hypocracy about freedom of speech. Thanks for bringing me up to speed and naming names.
He is very well advised to be supported by a union in this sort of confrontation. TF2 will be watching very carefullly what they say to him next to explain thier actions.
IMO they will try to drag this out until after COP-out21 is over and then put him back,
Your collectif may be open to any honest man but anyone calling themselves “realists” is really staring out by saying “I’m right”. I’m sure that all the alarmists regard themselves as “realists” too.
If you want to start a polemisised oppostition to the alarmists polemic , it’s one approach. It is not one which lends itself to a non partisan support for freedom of speech.
It was good idea to try to support M. Verdier but I don’t think fronting it with such a name was the best way of acheiving that aim. It has just scraped throught the 2500 mark. That is a demonstation of a lack of interest, not resounding support for your man.
If you had done it in the name of “le collectif pour la libre expression” you may have got broader support.
If you think that you agree to avoid political confrontations with a name like you have I suggest you think again. If you think that you can discuss climate and avoid political confrontations you are living in a dream world.
Bien a toi, Herni.
Hi Mike,
I guess you are right about the name of the collectif. I was actually not personally involved in this label, having joined the group later. Our aim is not specifically to support Philippe Verdier and launch a battle in the name of the freedom of speech (in which case the name you suggest would have been indeed perfect),. but to denounce the farce of the COP21 and that non scientific concept of consensus that IPCC put continuously forward.
Of course we are nor “alarmists” or “warmists”, neither “negationists” believing that the earth is flat. We try to force an open debate based on real experimental facts (not models because we know of course that rubbish in = rubbish out) and quantify the experimental and algorithmic errors associated to their consolidation (just like what happens on this site, actually).
We know (some of us are university professors of mathematics or of [heat and mass transfer & energetics] engineering) also that the climate is a nonlinear complex system with many feedbacks loops, having each their own time constant, and that that system is multi-periodic, even slightly chaotic, thus unpredictable on the medium to long term, and certainly not subject to be handled properly with linear methods like moving averages or regression lines. Our core business is to try to vulgarize those ideas to the public, the media, the industry and the deciders. We are of course not the only ones involved in this kind of approach, but we focus on France (and Belgium) where we are still “preaching in the desert”. All a job actually…
Mike, Fabius being the ‘Minister of FA’ would also get a laugh!
Wikipedia
what’s the laugh, Billy?
Fabius went to “ENA” – (école nationale d’Administration) and being a socialist is just the opportunity he had to get involved in politic with François Mitterand (if I remember well) – anyway :
“Etre de gauche ou être de droite, c’est choisir une des innombrables manières qui s’offrent à l’homme d’être un imbécile ; toutes deux, en effet, sont des formes d’hémiplégie morale.” José Ortéga y Gasset
let hope it is the end of our troubles and that “the scum” of that society is going to disappear and let us free
Mike – If I said the Minister of “SFA” would that make you laugh? Or perhaps that isn’t an expression in your neck of the woods? SNAFU. FUBAR. 🙂
I understand he has already been replaced by Monsieur Lysenko.
Isn’t that ‘Comrade Lysenko’?
db, someone is using your name to post AGW garbage on American Thinker. He claims to be a WUWT Mod. LOL
Check it out:
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/10/climate_change_and_leftist_hypocrisy_comments.html#disqus_thread
Thanks George. No, that isn’t me. I only use ‘dbstealey’ on this site and no other site, ever.
I got a call from a friend about it. If there’s ever a problem, Disqus can be subpoenaed and then our identity thief pal will be working for me. I hope he’s a homeowner. ☺
db, you are welcome, my friend. Keep up the good fight.
George,
I kind of like the fact that he wishes he was me.
Now, if the identiy thief/impostor would get a life, we’d all be better off. ☺
He may have been reinstated but the management will ease him out using other excuses.
Wasn’t it Voltaire who said:
I may disagree with what you say so I am giving you the arse.
Mjw
October 17, 2015 at 3:28 pm
I think you were kidding. The real Voltaire quote was pertinent to this issue – this may not be exact but close: “I may disagree with what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it.”
Unless of course you live in France today. And after Charlie. What could they be thinking? Or not thinking perhaps.
“Je ne suis pas d’accord avec ce que vous dites, mais je me battrai jusqu’à la mort pour que vous ayez le droit de le dire.” Voltaire
I signed with complete name and affiliation: “Je SUis Phillipe.”
Hmmm, I thought this petition would pull in in the tens of thousands. After all it has been posted all over the world. I wonder how many votes came from France? Maybe they are not too in love with this guy. I still think he got a raw deal and should retain his job. Let me check my facebook – Hmmm, just what I thought. I posted this on Facebook when it first came out. No likes and no comments :-(.
I do have over 50 facebook “friends”…
Actually I have 74 “friends”. There are only 2, maybe 3 that react when I post something on “Climate Change”. They get annoyed if I send them a direct email. Especially with that great Ted Cruz/Greenpeace President video…
Here’s an email example from that Ted Cruz Video:
“Phil I love you, But politically I don’t agree with you and I like to leave science things like climate change
to Science guys not my friendly neighborhood Graphic Artist or numbskull right wing only give a shit about corporation republicans.
I won’t be convinced by such videos. I don’t care for ANYONE running on the republican side for president(and that is because I DO pay attention) and I am thrilled you don’t vote”
love
Rxxxxx
(I do vote, but it’s hard because I live in the Baja)…JPP
If you check the comments on the petition website, you’ll find out that about half of them come from France. You have also to know that, so far, there is only a very smal number of climato-sceptic (or better “realist”) blogs in French. This is why we launched in parallel a “conventional” media campaign over the WE.
I think our weakness so far has been to have not put enough emphasis on how far this local “scandal” (dirty attack to Human Rights, more precisely on Freedom of Speech on a journalist) could jeopardize the success and outcomes of the COP21 and tarnish a little bit more(hopefully definitively?) the image of its organizers.
Ethics are extremely important for us (I have been for many years the VP of the European Federation of Ethics….and Sustainable Development, based in Paris), whatever the social, political or religious ideas and believes of the players involved.
Philippe Verdier is NOT a climato-skeptic; he believes in climate change and even anthropogenic contribution, to some extend; he recognizes however that consensus is meaningless in science and that the climatic system is extremely complex; in a few words, that “the science is all but settled” . But he is definitively an IPCC-skeptic, and this is what the French Establishment cannot accept
But the fight is not over….
OK – thanks for this information. I didn’t realize there was a comment section at the bottom of the Petition Page, – interesting!
I’ve signed and passed it on. I hope the public backlash is fierce.
i have signed it to
Translated from English in French (sorry the only source available att his time)
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“Un état totalitaire vraiment efficace serait celui dans lequel le pouvoir exécutif des chefs politiques et de leur armée de directeurs contrôle une population d’esclaves qui n’ont pas à être contraints parce qu’ils aiment leur servitude.”
(Aldous Huxley, lors d’un discours à l’université de Californie)
and freely retranslated in Frenglish (sorry again…):
“A really effective totalitarian State would be the one where the executive power of the political leaders and their army of directors controls a population of slaves who do not need to be submitted by force (~ ???) because they like their servitude”
(Aldous Huxley, during a conference at the Universit of California)
and I hate (effective) totalitarian States….
Missing from this thread is the obligatory alarmist saying:
“Please name one time a skeptic was prevented from doing their job based on their views”.
3.382 signatures so far…if you haven’t signed because they want your email address – not to worry.
Henri Masson says: “I can guarantee your e-mail address will never been used by “le collectif” for any other purpose than this sole petition.”
Don’t like the plea for money when signing!!
Didn’t even notice that. Are you sure? There was an option for comment which I didn’t use, didn’t see anything about donations or such.
I just checked out with our webmaster. The “promotion money” they refer too on the webpage is exclusvely aimed to get the Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc. reference to the petition to “climb up” in the order of appearance of the hyperlink when you type in “(petition) Philippe Verdier” as key words for your search, increasing this way its visibility (and thus reaching more people).
If you type in my name, you will find out that desmondblog must have spend a nice amount of money for smearing my own reputation (just to give you an example).
I understand this perfectly. I did not design this webpage…and actually I share your views and feelings about that. .
However:
1- as many “realist” websites we are not sponsored, neither by the industry, nor by the Government( that you already guessed, I think 🙂 and running a website has a cost (fees to host, equipment & maintenance, etc.). All the members of the “collectif” participate to our venture, for free, during they free time (which can be important if they are retired, which is the case of some of us).
2- As for many really independent websites you are kindly asked to participate to the running costs if wanted (this.is common practise; look around)
3- but our petition is clearly all except a fundraising or crowdfunding operation.
So please do not feel obliged to support us finacially. But if you really want, you are of course welcome 😉
Over 4008 so far. Seems like this thread is dead, But the petition signers still keep growing. Is there any news whether or not he will get his job back? Haven’t seen any updates…
Indeed no news so far, except that Philippe Verdier must meet the Direction of France Television “somewhere later this week”. As you might know, Philippe Verdier is supported by his Union (Force Ouvrière), and since the begining of the week the Unions negotiate (harshly, some unions having already slammed the door…) with the Government on a “new social deal”.. Maybe nobody wants to exasperate the other parties by putting too much emphasis on a “touchy case”….for the time being..
the choice of hollande
https://olivierdemeulenaere.wordpress.com/2015/10/20/verdier-climatosceptique-malgre-lui/#comments
4,798 supporters now. Nice!