Aussie Government Climate Skeptic Purge Continues

Maurice Newman, Chairman Australian Prime Minister's Business Advisory Council
Maurice Newman, Chairman Australian Prime Minister’s Business Advisory Council

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The Guardian reports that Australia’s new climate alarmist Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, has not renewed outspoken skeptic Maurice Newman’s appointment as head of the Prime Ministers Business Advisory Council.

According to The Guardian;

… Former prime minister Tony Abbott appointed Newman as one of his first acts after winning government in 2013.

Newman has used a weekly column in the Australian to expound private views on climate change, including that the world was ill-prepared for a period of global cooling and that the United Nations was using debunked climate science to impose a new world order under its own control.

He also called for a government-funded review of the Bureau of Meteorology (BoM) to “dispel suspicions of a warming bias” in its temperature record-keeping, something freedom of information documents have recently revealed was under consideration by the prime minister’s department.

Turnbull’s spokesman said the new prime minister, who has strong personal links to the business community, was still considering whether he needed a formal business advisory council. He said Newman had not been reappointed. …

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Releasing outspoken skeptic Maurice Newman from his advisory role seems unlikely to help Turnbull’s credibility on climate issues. Prime Minister Turnbull has publicly stated that he wants to continue with Abbott’s climate policies. Given Turnbull’s track record as a fervent supporter of carbon pricing, this commitment to continue with Abbott’s climate policies, is not considered credible by at least some leading Aussie skeptics.

The Australian public voted overwhelmingly for Abbott, and his anti-carbon pricing manifesto in the last election, so there seems to be some sensitivity at the top levels of government, about creating a perception that putting a supporter of carbon pricing in charge of Australia’s government, will lead to the current government embracing carbon pricing.

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Phill Williams
September 27, 2015 11:35 pm

Your comment is a study in irony.

Phill Williams
Reply to  Phill Williams
September 27, 2015 11:56 pm

As is your ‘name’

September 27, 2015 11:38 pm

The coalition partner, the National Party extracted an agreement from Turnbull that he would not change climate policy before they agreed to continue to give him support. Otherwise Turnbull could not have formed a government.
Turnbull once said, he had stopped listening to skeptics. However 18 or 19 years of no rise in temperature is knocking on his deafness. His environment Minister wrote a paper on the economics of global warming back in the early 1990’s. Yet the same lack of rise in temperature has not penetrated his blindness.
Canberra is the political capital of Australia. It was selected to stop the bickering between Melbourne and Sydney. The result is that Canberra has become a socialist haven city of public servants that cut themselves off from the rest of Australia. Australia’s unions represent 17% of the working population but over 60% of that are public servants and media. Since their unions have invested heavily in windpower to match their occupations, they need to believe strongly in global warming.
Turnbull was a barrister and a very good one, but like a lot of barristers, he thinks he is the smartest man in the room, so he loves the sound of his own voice. The Canberra media also think they are an elite bunch of bloviators. So it is a match made in wind for Turnbull and the media.

Ben Palmer
September 27, 2015 11:39 pm

“But no-one wants an advisor who bases his views on pseudoscience” And of course for you, science which is does not toe the mainstream is “pseudoscience”. Remember Galileo, remember Alfred Wegener?

Climate Heretic
Reply to  Ben Palmer
September 28, 2015 1:54 am

Remember Barry Marshall? Who got the Nobel Prize for showing that stomach ulcers were caused by bacterium rather than stress. What about Joseph Goldberger? Who showed that Pellagra is a disease caused by dietary deficiency but for political reasons his opponents continued to claim it was infectious.
There are others such as William Harvey for blood circulation, Doppler for light frequency shifts, Peyton Rous for showing viruses can cause cancer, Ignaz Semmelweis for washing hands and on and on and on.
All of them had to fight against resistance before their ground breaking work gained the recognition they deserved.
Climate Heretic

Bob Burban
Reply to  Ben Palmer
September 28, 2015 3:31 pm

And there are also Giordano Bruno and Ignaz Philipp Semmelweis, who paid the ultimate price for science.

Scottish Sceptic
September 27, 2015 11:51 pm

We all agree that’s why the climate extremists should never have any role anywhere near government.

September 27, 2015 11:55 pm

He was interviewed by Andrew Bolt on the Bolt Report yesterday, I didn’t watch all of it. But, Bolt asked him did he agree with Abbott that coal was good for humanity (In the context of raising humanity out of energy poverty). He agreed, in around about way.

Reply to  Patrick
September 28, 2015 12:28 am

Coal is also a bit good for humanity in its direct role of making iron and steel, and its indirect role of making high enough temperatures for manufacturing many other essential products.

Reply to  Patrick
September 28, 2015 12:38 am

Concrete too. Never seen a wind/solar powered Bessemer converter…but there are people whole believe that is possible.

Reply to  Patrick
September 28, 2015 1:31 am

Correction. It was not Newman on the Bolt Report, it was Frydenberg.

richard verney
Reply to  Patrick
September 28, 2015 2:57 am

Burning coal is also good for the planet which is a water world inhabited by carbon life forms. The by product of burning coal is CO2 and water. What is not to like about that on a water world upon which all life depends upon CO2? It is literally the fertiliser and giver of life.
If by some chance it also brings some warming so much the better. The planet is way too cool. Life in general prefers warmth (that is why bio diversity is at its greatest in warm and wet conditions such as tropical rain forests, and least bio diversity is seen in cold arid conditions such as the Antarctic, and why all the large land feeding animal such as the elephant, giraffe, rhino, hippopotamus etc are found in warm climes, and why there are no great cities to be found in extremely cold climes) , and a warmer world would greatly benefit the majority of life here on our planet.

Scottish Sceptic
September 27, 2015 11:57 pm

What amazes me is that people as gullible on the science as Turnbull can get to run a government. Indeed it amazes me that people actually vote for such people. Fortunately, by the shear overwhelming quantity and quality of sceptic voices on the internet these days, people like Turnbull might be able to fire a few employees but they can’t turn the tide which has clearly and unequivocally turned against the climate extremists.

Phill Williams
Reply to  Scottish Sceptic
September 28, 2015 12:00 am

Let’s keep it in perspective, less than 60 people voted for Malcolm Turnbull.

Reply to  Phill Williams
September 28, 2015 12:07 am

That will be party members only. Unfortunately, no other voting Australian voted him for PM.

Bob Burban
Reply to  Phill Williams
September 28, 2015 12:22 pm

The candidate for the post of Prime Minister in Australia is voted on by the ruling political party(s) and is not a constitutional requirement. The electorate does not vote in a Prime Minister.

September 27, 2015 11:59 pm

When the climate STOPS changing , Then I’ll start worrying !!!!

Reply to  Marcus
September 28, 2015 6:32 am

Do you have that on a hot key?

September 28, 2015 12:02 am

The Masque of Paris Nigh.

September 28, 2015 12:15 am

Turnbull (Turncoat) wants an ETS. He, and his mates at Macquarie Bank, stand to make billions out of any such system. He’s rich enough anyway, so no skin off his nose.

John of Cloverdale, WA, Australia.
September 28, 2015 12:16 am

The Goldman Sachs man triumphs! Dennis Jensen, the only scientist in the Government, is a climate (AGW) sceptic. Although he supported TurnBULL, he will never get a post in the cabinet.

Reply to  John of Cloverdale, WA, Australia.
September 28, 2015 6:49 am

finally a post which pins the blame where it belongs- the money power. the carbon credits, the tax credits, etc etc: those pigs will starve and freeze the peasants while they fly south in the coming winter.

Reply to  thebillyc
September 28, 2015 7:23 am

I’m sure that the Snowbirds in Australia fly north in the winter, unlike the North American Snowbird that flies South; It just occurred to me that the snowbirds in both hemispheres fly in the same direction at the same calander dates.

bit chilly
September 28, 2015 12:40 am

i agree, excellent news. all the evidence anyone ever needed that agw is a politically driven agenda and nothing more. the fact that antarctic sea ice has been at record levels for the satellite era tends to suggest the southern hemisphere has been a lot cooler than records from the australian bom would suggest ,more proof the science in australia was abandoned in favour of supporting that political agenda in lieu of government funding .

Christopher Hanley
Reply to  bit chilly
September 28, 2015 2:35 am

“… antarctic sea ice has been at record levels for the satellite era tends to suggest the southern hemisphere has been a lot cooler than records from the australian bom would suggest …”.
Right, the satellite data shows virtually no SH warming for the entire period since 1979: RSS TropicsAndExtratropicsMonthlyTempSince1979 With37monthRunningAverage.gif

Christopher Hanley
Reply to  bit chilly
September 28, 2015 2:37 am

I’ll try that again: RSS TropicsAndExtratropicsMonthlyTempSince1979 With37monthRunningAverage.gif

Reply to  bit chilly
September 28, 2015 3:53 am

the only good thing coming from the debacle re climate is?
we now know who is willing to lie or confabulate for money
and whos NOT trustworthy to be in any positions of power or teaching in the future.
small joy, true, but some value to having the proof of bad science practitioners exposed and their names on it.

Reply to  bit chilly
September 28, 2015 5:46 am With37monthRunningAverage.gif
Fixed it for you Christopher. For spaces in URL’s you can insert %20 so it will parse them correctly.

Christopher Hanley
Reply to  deebodk
September 28, 2015 1:53 pm

Ta, WordPress and Safari don’t get along.

September 28, 2015 1:17 am

Reblogged this on Climatism and commented:
Since Abbott’s knifing, and the appointment of warmist Turnbull, the UN has ‘opened a door’ for Australia at ‘high-level (warmist) talks’ in Paris.
More Australian taxpayers hard-earned money siphoned off to the UN, to fix a non-problem. Not to mention our rights to be signed away on the dotted line.
Will we get our money and freedoms back if the atmosphere stays in hiatus for another 18.9 years?

Reply to  Climatism
September 28, 2015 6:50 am

freedom only returns with revolutions.

Steve C
Reply to  thebillyc
September 28, 2015 8:39 am

“Don’t put your trust in revolutions. They always come around again. That’s why they’re called revolutions. People die, and nothing changes.”
– Terry Pratchett, Night Watch

September 28, 2015 1:45 am

More worrying news, from Washington Post in the Aussie alarmist MSM, the SMH. Watch for the blob…

richard verney
Reply to  Patrick
September 28, 2015 3:06 am

It is good to see that the Day after Tomorrow was not a science fiction film, but should be held in the same esteem as the Delphic Oracle.

Reply to  Patrick
September 28, 2015 1:37 pm

Chris Mooney is a very selective reporter of scary stories he can further embellish. This one, with its “…the map above suggests…”
“…not absolutely the coldest it has been on record…”
“…some scientists suspect…”
“…suggesting that…”

is a bit sillier than most.
There are some good comments at WaPo, with the usual attack parrots coming to defend Mooney against [bad word that must not be typed]:

September 28, 2015 1:52 am

How is this excellent news? The LNP won in 2013 BECAUSE of their climate change policy. The LNP defeated the ALP BECAUSE of the policies the LNP brought to an election. And now, in the build up to the Paris gabfest, Turnbull, elected by the party, an alarmist and an advocate of some for on emissions trading scam, and you say this is excellent news? The LNP staffers have just sold Australia down the dunny! 2016 will see the LNP get slaughtered at the general election because of this. We will probably get to see another ALP/Green lead pantomime. All for what? Nothing! Nothing but posturing and back-slapping.
5 PM’s in 5 years!

Reply to  Patrick
September 28, 2015 2:23 am

Bit like Italy.

September 28, 2015 2:05 am

According to polls, most Australians accept mainstream science on climate change and want action taken. We don’t have Murdoch’s Fox ‘News’ talking heads and far right shock jocks to continually misinform us like the US does. Although there a few hard-right radio shock jocks and Murdoch journalists who like to whip up the more gullible uninformed public with pseudoscience and evidence free nonsense claims.
It was a relief to have an embarrassing science-rejecting sexist numbskull like Abbot who wants to lead Australia back to the 1950s get the boot. Unfortunately, Turnbull had to make some compromises with the hard right, so there won’t be a lot of changes to policies right away.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 28, 2015 4:53 am

No, Abbot showed that he was a good opposition leader who focused on fear-based deceitful destructive tactics. The Labor party was a mess (still is). It was an easy win for the Liberal-National coalition. Abbot has had incredibly low approval ratings for the last 2 years. Perhaps many Australians realised what a mistake they had made and had probably not realised just how far to the hard right the ‘broad church’ of the LNP had become under his ‘leadership’ while he was in opposition. There was no way the LNP was going to win the next election with Abbot and his uber conservative regressive fear-based sloganism. Labor just had to sit back and do very little to let Abbot and his hard-right conservative cronies destroy themselves in the polls. Turnbull as leader has changed that. Now Labor will have to get their act together and actually come up with some decent policies. Unfortunately, Turnbull, who is more centre right, had to make so many compromises with the hard right regressives to enough party room votes, that he runs the risk of being completely ineffective in getting any changes happening.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 28, 2015 10:35 pm

No, Abbot showed that he was a good opposition leader who focused on fear-based deceitful destructive tactics
Complete and utter lie about the deceit and destruction.
Save the communist invective for your green chums. So warped.

Reply to  ceist8
September 28, 2015 4:47 am

Most Australians, if this is your evidence, are idiots!

Reply to  Patrick
September 28, 2015 5:10 am

Yep we do have fair few idiots in Australia, but not for that reason. But we pale in comparison to the far more numerous and more vocal idiots in the US. 😀 Luckily, there are also a lot of intelligent rational people in the US. But they aren’t the ones who swallow everything the far right ‘libertarian’ shock jocks tell them or whatever Roger Ailes tells them to believe via Fox Entertainment “News”.

Reply to  Patrick
September 28, 2015 8:46 pm

I rarely see as many far-far-far left, deluded nut jobs as Australia and New Zealand seem to be filled with. They’re as gullible as they get.
These are the same ones who suspect that EVERYONE who looks at the woefully confused “science” and sees fabricated garbage are programmed by far-right whatever.
ceist8 is just another example of this level of ignorance and delusion.

Reply to  Patrick
September 29, 2015 3:29 am

Well said CodeTech!

JB Goode
Reply to  ceist8
September 28, 2015 6:17 am

What on earth is ‘mainstream science’?
Have you been scraping that stuff off the back of the head of cane toads and smokin’ it?

ferd berple
Reply to  JB Goode
September 28, 2015 6:55 am

What on earth is ‘mainstream science’?
the science that future generation of scientists invariably prove to have been wrong. time and time again as history shows.

Reply to  ceist8
September 28, 2015 6:34 am

I love the way the communists declare that mainstream science is whatever the govt tells you it is.
To a communist, socialists are conservative.

Reply to  ceist8
September 28, 2015 6:48 am

So what your basically saying is that you can only see one side of an argument in Australia since all of the mainstream media are on the Warmista bandwagon. Must be nice to not have to think down there. Then again, you also have that permanent drought..oh wait…

Reply to  ceist8
September 28, 2015 6:56 am

yes, the public is so smart to believe everything the media tells them to; the priests come forth from the temples to bless their faithful flock daily, all is well in la-la land. oh- dont forget to look forward to importing more ‘refugees’ soon with your new PC gummint, mustn’t keep your clean (not for long) streets to yourselves.

Reply to  ceist8
September 28, 2015 11:16 am

I always find it amazing when people think reporters are the source of skeptics rather then the lack of supporting data for the theory. I watch your type the most, will be interesting to watch how your mindset shifts over time. It does leave one curious what you are worried about when the world simply isn’t warming at anywhere near the predicted and claimed level and major feedbacks needed for most of the warming simply do not work as the models continue to claim. Lots of repetition ad calls to authority work obviously. Will be very interesting to see how your mindset shifts as all this is acknowledged over time. Likely still believing those with questions were anti science most likely. Religions are hilarious.

September 28, 2015 2:15 am

September 28, 2015 at 1:45 am
More worrying news, from Washington Post in the Aussie alarmist MSM, the SMH. Watch for the blob…
They know about and are preparing to keep the scam going for the coming cold 🙁

Reply to  tobyglyn
September 28, 2015 5:18 am

Gosh. When are you predicting this ‘coming cold’ to happen? Winter?

Reply to  ceist8
September 28, 2015 6:35 am

It’s been cooling for the last 10 years.

Reply to  ceist8
October 2, 2015 4:24 am

This European winter is shaping up to be a repeat of the 1962-63 winter.
Maurice Newman is an Australian intellectual who has warned us of the possibility of global cooling, the left wing media mocked him and now Talcum Power sacked him.
Zealots have taken over the reins of government and they imagine swooping up Labor and Green voters, creating a broad church, even at the risk of destroying the Coalition.
The next election will be extraordinary.

Reply to  tobyglyn
September 28, 2015 5:43 am

Or you could find out what is causing that ‘cold blob’ in the Nth Atlantic:

September 28, 2015 2:33 am

AGW is pseudoscience complete with smoke and mirrors.

September 28, 2015 3:57 am

Abbot must have had a total brain black-out in letting such a ‘procedure’ come thru. Hopefully, you ‘Down Under’ will soonest possible straighten this mess out – just do it, damned !

Reply to  thojak
September 28, 2015 4:46 am

It’s called party politics (I call it bullcarp). And nothing to do with “democracy”.

Reply to  thojak
September 28, 2015 5:13 am

Abbot has always had a total brain black out. I think many people forget that it was Abbot who got Turnball out in 2009 in the same way and took over the leadership of the party from him. It’s such a shame that former Treasurer/Deputy leader Peter Costello didn’t stay in government. We could have had Abbot & Costello ‘leading’ Australia. 😀

September 28, 2015 4:26 am

“an advisor who bases his views on pseudoscience”
Maybe you should tell Obama that !! 🙂
EVERY one of his advisors lives in the realm of pseudo something.. not even science. !!

September 28, 2015 4:34 am

I can tell you that many people who voted for and/or were members/helpers for Tony Abbott’s Liberal (aka conservative) party are really really p****d off.
While Turnbull may have gained some of voters from the far-left Labor/Union party, I suspect that he will lose far more in the way of support from disenchanted Liberal voters.
Liberal politicians may find it quite difficult to find helpers at the next election because they have angered the Liberal member base so much.

Reply to  AndyG55
September 28, 2015 5:30 am

You are assuming that most of the Liberal party voters are hard right conservatives. That’s not the case at all. The Liberal party has a history of being a ‘broad church’ with many small ‘l’ liberals and centre right voters, not just conservative far right. The far left ‘unionist’ types who vote Labor would never vote for Turnbull. He’s too centre right. However, he will probably attract far more swinging voters than Abbot ever could. If those Tony Abbot lovers don’t want Labor to win the next election, they should be happy Abbot’s gone. They had no chance in hell winning the next election with him at the helm.

Reply to  AndyG55
September 28, 2015 5:38 am

So who are those pissed off hard right conservative Liberal voters going to vote for at the next election if not the Liberal/National coalition? Why not start the own party? They can call it the No Science No Gays Alan Jones Pity Party and have a lot of whine with their cheesy policies.

Reply to  ceist8
September 28, 2015 5:44 am

Or maybe they can do everyone else a favour and just do a donkey vote.

JB Goode
Reply to  ceist8
September 28, 2015 6:32 am

You sound like like one of those people who feels nothing for the thousands of people who died at sea while attempting to gain access to Australia,or for the rights of children to have a mother and a father and you definitely havn’t read the Climategate emails.

Reply to  ceist8
September 28, 2015 6:35 am

It really is fascinating how the communists really do believe their own propaganda.

Reply to  ceist8
September 28, 2015 6:37 am

JB, he’s part of the crowd that still excuses Stalin and Mao for killing hundreds of millions.
After all, when you are trying to create paradise on earth, a few sacrifices (as long as they aren’t one of them) are quite acceptable.

Reply to  ceist8
September 28, 2015 7:11 am

Sou/Miriam O’Brien – is that you, dear? Weren’t you banned already?

September 28, 2015 6:27 am

Says the advent supporter of pseudoscience.

Reply to  MarkW
September 28, 2015 6:30 am

ardent, not advent, blasted autocorrect

Reply to  MarkW
September 28, 2015 10:58 am

ardent, not advent. Sheesh.

Reply to  rogerknights
September 28, 2015 6:10 pm

Goldman Sachs paid a very large legal settlement to save Turnbull’s hide.
As a result, does our new PM owe a “debt” to GS?
Google “Turnbull HIH Insurance Goldman Sachs”.

September 28, 2015 6:58 am

Actually it’s the simple fact that the 23 million Australians don’t matter at all in the scheme of things. Even if the CO2 idea was 100% correct, then Australia’s contribution to the .8 degree of warming is .006 degrees, what we call “2/3 of 3/5 of f*ck all”.
We want advisers who have brains in their heads, and any advisor that suggests it’s a good idea to spend literally billions of dollars to make a change in temps that is literally too small to ever measure is pretty much by definition brainless.

September 28, 2015 7:00 am

8 out of 55 comments.
using the pejorative term “far right shock jocks” and then equating them with “libertarians.”
parroting the CAGW meme
suddenly shows up here spamming the comments
came from the Guardian where it registered this past June and posted highly politicized nonsense about climate.
No science, no logic.

Reply to  tomdesabla
September 28, 2015 7:06 am

Here was its very first post at the Guardian:
“No only loony conspiracy ideation but the Dunning-Kruger effect and delusions of grandeur are rampant on anti-science conspiracy blogs like WUWT.”
Need I say more?

Reply to  tomdesabla
September 28, 2015 7:55 am
Reply to  tomdesabla
September 28, 2015 10:57 am

One thing I’ve noticed about extremists, they are incapable of understanding the arguments of their opponents, and in most cases, unwilling to try.
Even though most of these “shock jocks” will tell you to your face that they aren’t libertarians, that doesn’t matter. When you are as far out in left field as ceist8 is, everyone starts to merge together.
The only right wing radio commentator that I can think of who is open about his libertarian leanings, is Neil Boortz.

September 28, 2015 7:00 am

follow the money… always. bankers rule…always. until the pitchforks and lamp posts.

September 28, 2015 11:41 am

A simple approximation of the net effect of all ocean cycles, combined with the V1 sunspot number anomaly time-integral when compared to a 5-year running-average of measured average global temperatures, produces a near perfect match of R^2 >0.97 with the 5-year running average of measured temperatures since before 1900. No influence from CO2 was used or needed.
542 million years of life on land demonstrates CO2 has no effect on climate.

September 29, 2015 8:04 am

It’s unfair to call Turnbull fervent on ‘carbon pricing’. He wants to tax energy that has carbon in it. He’s fervent on ‘taxing’, not ‘pricing’.

Melbourne Resident
September 29, 2015 6:26 pm

We are not all idiots or fervent communists like ceist8 who simply wants to destroy the democratically elected Australian government, as he will find out at the next election. I am voting Nationals next time regardless and hopefully the senate will be stacked with conservatives who are skeptics and will keep the parliament sane. Lets hope Paris turns out to be the debacle it is promising to be.

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