Friday Funny Bonus: blinkered @greenpeace activists can't tell the difference between steam and CO2

From the “cooling towers are evil fossil fuel icons” department and the mind of Greenpeace comes this hilariously funny (and stupid) tweet. It demonstrates the usual m.o. of Greenpeace these days, blind uneducated vandalism in the name of a cause. Mind you, this isn’t some rogue splinter faction of Greenpeace putting out this photo, it’s the central office.

climate-crime-billboard-greenpeace

What these bozo activists don’t seem to understand (along with many journalists that make the same mistake) is that cooling towers emit clouds of steam and water vapor, not carbon dioxide. Even the highly liberal ABC in Australia gets this:

steam-is-not-co2

Rightfully, the Galileo movement helpfully fixed the billboard for the Greenpeacers  in a followup Tweet:

climate-crime-billboard-greenpeace-fixed

This is obviously a Photoshop job, but wouldn’t it be great if we could identify where this vandalized billboard is at, and have somebody fix it for real?

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kamikazedave
August 28, 2015 8:13 am

Water vapor is a much more potent greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. So maybe this is a climate crime /sarc.

Marcus
Reply to  kamikazedave
August 28, 2015 8:17 am

Yes !! Lets ban WATER !!! LOL…

Scott Basinger
Reply to  Marcus
August 28, 2015 8:29 am

Dihydrogen monoxide is a serious threat. Many people have died because of it.

Reply to  Marcus
August 28, 2015 8:36 am

And if it ain’t that stuff, it’s the hydrogen hydroxide that’ll kill ya….

ShrNfr
Reply to  Marcus
August 28, 2015 9:34 am

Yes Mr. Basinger, most especially when it is inhaled to excess.

Reply to  Marcus
August 28, 2015 10:36 am

CO2 and H2O are molecularly equal villains in enabling carbon based life .
Without them all the evils and tribulations of life would be non-existent .

Reply to  Marcus
August 28, 2015 11:56 am

Hydroxylic acid is particularly dangerous. It will dissolve any known substance, and is particularly dangerous to structural materials such as steel. It is especially hazardous when it comes into contact with any electrical equipment – and our modern society is increasingly dependent on such technology for its very survival. Historically, sudden, spontaneous, uncontrolled releases of this potent chemical have been known to produce death tolls well into six figures.
It is a major scandal that this practically ubiquitous substance is readily available to untrained members of the public and it is essential that it should be tightly controlled or even banned as soon as possible.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Marcus
August 28, 2015 12:37 pm

When you live in or around Portland, Oregon, you learn not to make jokes like that. Because they’ll do it. It’s utterly amazing how last year’s absurdity becomes today’s mandate.

Paul Coppin
Reply to  Marcus
August 28, 2015 3:05 pm

Terrible stuff – there is no safe harbour -In large quantities it will render you incapable of respirating. In small quantities it destroys even the very best scotch.

Bert Walker
Reply to  Marcus
August 28, 2015 3:50 pm

Steam? Excuse me I believe you are referring to “Oxygen pollution”

PiperPaul
Reply to  Marcus
August 28, 2015 4:44 pm

Dihydrogen monoxide is present at almost all fatal shark attacks!

Eugene WR Gallun
Reply to  Marcus
August 28, 2015 5:31 pm

Portland Oregon — Where they banned paper supermarket bags to save the trees mandating only plastic bags could be used — and then two years banned plastic bags to save the climate mandating that only paper bags could be used. An election cycle here merely changes the specific type of nuts who run things — but the generic level of nuttiness always remains the same.
Eugene WR Gallun.

Louis Hooffstetter
Reply to  Marcus
August 28, 2015 7:09 pm

Politicians don’t want to ban CO2, they want to tax it.
And they would certainly tax liquid water, and water vapor as well if they thought they could get away with it.

lenbilen
Reply to  kamikazedave
August 28, 2015 1:58 pm

Dihydrogen monoxide must now be banned
The thought of its use must forever be canned
So the delegates spoke
in Cancun, what a joke.
It wasn’t exactly what Watt once had planned.
http://lenbilen.com/2012/01/30/dihydrogen-monoxide-the-main-source-of-greenhouse-gases-a-limerick/

Sly
Reply to  lenbilen
August 28, 2015 5:14 pm

don’t forget the other killer… oxygen dihydride

Reply to  lenbilen
August 28, 2015 6:35 pm

Damn stuff can pit concrete, that’s how bad it is.

Reply to  lenbilen
August 28, 2015 9:41 pm

Nah. That’s the people trying to chisel their icy walks with shovels and chippers when shoveling earlier would have been easier.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  kamikazedave
August 28, 2015 10:33 pm

Yes what you are seeing in the picture is water droplets condensed from the invisible steam.

Marcus
August 28, 2015 8:14 am

When the climate STOPS changing , THEN we should be worried !!

G Mawer
Reply to  Marcus
August 28, 2015 9:25 am

Well said!
Let’s make that our mantra.

Mike B.
August 28, 2015 8:19 am

If we’re schooling Greenpeace in scientific accuracy, let’s get it right. It’s not steam, it’s water vapor. Steam is invisible.

Reply to  Mike B.
August 28, 2015 8:38 am

Water vapor is transparent.

urederra
Reply to  dbstealey
August 28, 2015 8:56 am

It is colorless, same as CO2, but you can see them by the change of the refractive index.

Bryan A
Reply to  dbstealey
August 28, 2015 5:07 pm

Perhaps a better repair to the defaced sign would be another sign stating “Hate Crime” with an arrow pointing at the climate crime meme. This is, after all, what this sign really is!

Reply to  Mike B.
August 28, 2015 9:30 am

It’s not the steam you see, it’s the micro droplets of water condensing from the steam.

ShrNfr
Reply to  Paul Jackson
August 28, 2015 9:36 am

Mie scattering actually. Best described by the even and odd orders of Riccati-Bessel functions if I remember by physics.

Mike
Reply to  Mike B.
August 28, 2015 9:51 am

If we’re schooling Greenpeace in scientific accuracy, let’s get it right. It’s not steam, it’s water vapor. Steam is invisible.

Well, if we’re going to get it right, let’s get it right , right?
Steam IS water vapour, hence both are invisible. The white fluffy stuff is liquid water droplets.
Now since the Greenpeace poster just points an arrow at the structure behind it and does not say “whilte fluffy stuff is a climate crime” no one is going to get very far being smart about scientific accuracy ( especially if they don’t know what steam is ).
At least this is not usual visual lie of cooling tower shot at sunset and photoshopped to make the white fluffy stuff look black and “dirty”.
In order to criticise this campaign you’d need to be able to say where the climate “wierding” CO2 is being emitted from. I think you’ll find it is coming out of the same hole as your “steam”.

MarkW
Reply to  Mike
August 28, 2015 10:35 am

The stacks that release the CO2 are the tall skinny ones, usually located within a few hundred feet of the cooling towers, but they are definitely separate from the cooling towers.

Dahlquist
Reply to  Mike
August 28, 2015 12:31 pm

That’s a nuclear plant. Isn’t it?

Menicholas
Reply to  Mike
August 28, 2015 1:21 pm

Dahlquist,
Hard to say from the shot if it is a nuclear power plant. Some conventional plants have the same sort of cooling tower.
But many see these and assume they are the reactor buildings.
Of course, the reactor building is typically a squat and nondescript concrete structure nearby. The reactor building itself has no stacks, except for some vents.

Crispin in Waterloo but really in Singapore
Reply to  Mike B.
August 28, 2015 4:06 pm

It’s fog.

Editor
Reply to  Mike B.
August 28, 2015 7:16 pm

Dry steam is 100% water vapor and is transparent. Wet steam is between 0% and 100% water vapor and has visible water droplets (well, at 0% it’s water at 100°C). Dry steam made even hotter is superheated steam. It’s the stuff steam turbines are made for.
Steam mixed with air is, I guess, steam mixed with air. And that’s what the photo shows.
http://www.tlv.com/global/TI/steam-theory/wet-steam-dry-steam.html

Louis LeBlanc
August 28, 2015 8:30 am

A slight correction — that isn’t steam coming out of the cooling tower stack, it is condensate.

Louis LeBlanc
Reply to  Louis LeBlanc
August 28, 2015 8:34 am

Further correction — it isn’t even water vapor, the gaseous form of water, which is transparent.

John Silver
Reply to  Louis LeBlanc
August 28, 2015 8:42 am

You beat me to it, steam is invisible.

Jpatrick
August 28, 2015 8:32 am

Bodes ill for the “hydrogen economy”, which I haven’t heard about in a while.

ShrNfr
Reply to  Jpatrick
August 28, 2015 9:36 am

Obama will claim that because of this fact there is inequality and we have to have black steam to make up for it.

Reply to  ShrNfr
August 28, 2015 11:22 am

Just add carbon.

Reply to  ShrNfr
August 28, 2015 9:19 pm

Obama didn’t build it, so he may as well shut up.

Editor
August 28, 2015 8:38 am

Their stupidity knows no bounds. CO2 is a colourless odourless gas. Water vapour is a colourless, odourless gas that condenses in the air into tiny droplets, called steam,that refract light and are therefore visible, but still odourless, steam dissipates relatively quickly due to the relatively large surface area/volume ratio allowing evaporation and return to water vapour . Smoke is not colourless, smells to high heaven and takes a long time to dissipate. This is not science, it is observation and understanding of physical processes, dispassionately. Greenpeace lost the knack of doing that years ago!

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  andrewmharding
August 28, 2015 11:16 am

Water droplets are NOT steam. They’re water droplets. Steam is above ambient temperature by 140F, more or less. After release, as it cools, water droplets appear. What you see coming out of a cooling tower is clouds, a mixture of water vapor and water droplets.

Reply to  jorgekafkazar
August 28, 2015 2:25 pm

Jeez…seriously people?? FYI – there are three (3) types of steam;
1) Saturated Steam (dry)
2) Unsaturated Steam (wet)
3) Superheated Steam
These pictures are examples of Saturated Steam. Also things like steam from a pot of non-boiling water, ‘sea smoke’, breath vapors on cold days & clouds, etc. In essence, water condensing from a gas to a liquid in a mist-like form…also known as ‘flash steam’.
Unsaturated & Superheated Steams are water vapor boiled under pressure at temperatures above 212F (sea level).
http://www.tlv.com/global/TI/steam-theory/types-of-steam.html

BFL
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
August 28, 2015 4:08 pm

Fog = Cloud on the ground
Cloud = Fog in the air

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
August 28, 2015 9:52 pm

Krob, these pictures don’t show steam of any sort; they show clouds consisting of visible water droplets, invisible water vapor, plus fan-driven air coming out the top of a cooling tower. I spent 20 years specifying and designing this kind of system.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4azsQnHJggU/TpVpdRLJ0oI/AAAAAAAAAEE/vcAzb7w_Cys/s1600/cooling-tower-induced-flow.gif

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
August 29, 2015 9:21 am

Jorgekafkazar is correct, I operated cooling towers when I worked in a power plant. Cooling towers become necessary when the natural source of condenser cooling water becomes too warm or is not available with sufficient volume to maintain turbine outlet vacuum. They are mainly used when rivers or lakes are unavailable or too small to handle the thermal impact of the effluent. Nuclear installations must use a closed system to contain possible radiation excursion so cooling towers are most often associated with them.
These clowns could have taken pictures of cooling tower fog on any cool morning, on the rooftops of their local buildings that use water cooled condensers for refrigerators and chillers.
The University at which I worked most of my career tried using a cooling tower to air-cool the campus chilled water loop, but humidity levels made it impractical most of the summer and it began to get colder in winter than the engineers had predicted, so it wasn’t cost effective to maintain for so few productive hours of operation.
They had gambled that winters would be above freezing enough to save us the power the absorbers and chillers used. Instead we got more sub-freezing weather and increased maintenance. So failed alarmist predictions cost the taxpayers oodles and gobs on public education infrastructure mistakes.

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
August 29, 2015 1:27 pm

Actually, the reason you see so much fog from an hour-glass shaped tower is the increase of turbulence from the design. Turbulent air can hold more of anything, including fuel in a boiler burner. I have an aftermarket device in my diesel truck to do it at the primary turbo intake.

Ryan
August 28, 2015 8:39 am

“Climate Crime”?! How is that even a thing? Oh my, the times we live in…….

August 28, 2015 8:39 am

Let’s ban WATER!

fretslider
Reply to  Curious George
August 30, 2015 3:15 pm

People will sign anything…

Bernie
August 28, 2015 8:40 am

And my favorite super-fund worthy site: http://tinyurl.com/naopg78

Ken
Reply to  Bernie
August 29, 2015 8:42 am

Holy cow! Look at all the CO2 being emitted by those geothermal plants! I thought those were supposed to be clean.
You can’t trust anybody any more.

Betapug
August 28, 2015 8:41 am

Not just Greenpeace. Enter “CO2 pollution” into a Google Image search…. watch and weep.

Ken
Reply to  Betapug
August 28, 2015 1:38 pm

Are they that stupid? Surely not all of them are that stupid. If I am correct, then they are deliberately disseminating false information. Isn’t there some kind of law against that? Maybe not.

Lawrence
August 28, 2015 8:43 am

Shouldn’t we ban breathing, given the increased CO2 we output?

Lady Gaiagaia
Reply to  Lawrence
August 28, 2015 10:33 am

IMO the goal is to tax breathing.

James Schrumpf
Reply to  Lady Gaiagaia
August 28, 2015 5:02 pm

Or “thingy”!
https://youtu.be/QmFYHmGkfxw

Lady Gaiagaia
Reply to  Lady Gaiagaia
August 28, 2015 5:09 pm

Well, “thingy” would tend to increase release of CO2.

MarkW
Reply to  Lawrence
August 28, 2015 10:37 am

A lot of environmentalists want to reduce the world’s population of humans down to under 1 billion, a few advocate no more than 100 million. That’s a heck of a lot of humans who are going to have to stop breathing.

Reply to  MarkW
August 28, 2015 1:02 pm

I’m pretty sure they’re willing to wait and let mother nature run her course but they just don’t want us reproducing at a growing rate.
We’ll be allowed to fade away, with Obamacare.

Menicholas
Reply to  MarkW
August 28, 2015 1:24 pm

We will not go from 7 billion to a hundred million by attrition. It will require some serious dying.

Gamecock
Reply to  MarkW
August 28, 2015 3:22 pm

Maybe Bond shouldn’t have stopped Blofeld.

Marcus
Reply to  MarkW
August 31, 2015 9:38 am

So when are all the Green Liberal Lemmings going to start jumping off of cliffs ???? It’s their idea after all !!!! There are at least 150 million in the U.S.A. …Wouldn’t that be a good start ?????

August 28, 2015 8:44 am

aka: Oxidane
http://quezi.com/11668 “Why is Oxidane so deadly”

Tim
August 28, 2015 8:58 am

It shows the IQ/educational levels that they can still control.

nc
August 28, 2015 9:12 am

Steam in itself is invisible, water vapour in itself is invisible. What one see’s is condensate, water droplets mixed in with the steam or water vapour as these condense.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  nc
August 28, 2015 11:32 am

Technically, what one sees is the particulate condensed phase, as you indicate. The term condensate, however, is used in industry to indicate any liquid phase resulting from cooling of a vapor. The most common “condensate” is the liquid water phase formed within steam-heating systems. Cooling towers do not emit steam–the temperatures are close to ambient.

Keith Willshaw
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
August 28, 2015 12:12 pm

Not really.
Air at normal temperatures CAN and does contain water vapour, just not very much of it. What is rising from the cooling tower is a mixture of water droplets entrained in rising air and water vapour. In fact the loss of heat due to the evaporation process is a major factor in the efficiency of the cooling tower.
We don’t normally regard atmospheric water vapour as steam because its relatively cool but even steam contains water in the liquid phase. The reality is unless it is superheated, steam from a boiler is mix of the gaseous and liquid phases of water.
While the water coming out of a steam condenser is indeed condensate the phrase is more commonly used for liquids separated in distillation.

Menicholas
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
August 28, 2015 3:41 pm

Careful, the “Cold Steam ” cranks might decide to jump in here.

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
August 29, 2015 9:35 am

The same fog comes off the surface of the water at the circulating water outlets of a riverside steam cycle power plant on a cool still morning or evening. I wish I had a picture to post of the huge cloud on the river and seemingly small cloud of steam from the scrubber outlet of our nearby coal plant on a still winter morning.

Neil Jordan
August 28, 2015 9:18 am

(Some sarc here) It’s worse than the other commenters mentioned. Dihydrogen monoxide is the reaction product of mixing hydroxylic ACID with a base hydrogen hydroxide. Also, exhaled breath contains potent greenhouse gas water vapor in addition to “carbon”.
Sent from my iPhone
>

H.R.
Reply to  Neil Jordan
August 28, 2015 10:23 am

It’s worse than the other commenters mentioned. Dihydrogen monoxide is the reaction product of mixing hydroxylic ACID with a base hydrogen hydroxide.

Good lord, Mr. Jordan!!! EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!!!!
;o)

Editor
Reply to  H.R.
August 28, 2015 7:20 pm

Be sure to wear eye protection when you mix acids and bases…. IIRC, it’s better to add the acid to the base, but I recommend diluting both with water.

Menicholas
Reply to  Neil Jordan
August 28, 2015 3:43 pm

No carbon, as such, in exhaled breathe.
Any more than the stuff I sprinkle on my food is chlorine and sodium.

Caligula Jones
August 28, 2015 9:21 am

Green Warriors don’t know water from pollution, just like they don’t know ancient lines carved into a desert from publicity stunt:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/20/greenpeace-lima-nazca-lines-protest-suspects

Bruce Cobb
August 28, 2015 9:22 am

Greensleaze are the true climate criminals, commiting vandalism and other acts in the name of the climate.

August 28, 2015 9:35 am

Go easy on them, Greenpeace are the ones who wanted a worldwide ban on methane. Them confusing steam with CO2 is small beer, also not a good thing to ban, I hasten to add.
https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2013/03/01/sleeping-with-the-enemy/
Pointman

Albert Paquette
August 28, 2015 9:39 am

Was that message written on parchment peeled from a birch tree? Uh, no, it looks like something that was manufactured using energy. Did the energy come from a wind turbine? Only 5% probability of that happening. How about the ink or paint used? Was it squeezed from some fruit or other source of colourant? Not likely. My guess is that we’re looking at something like a water-based latex. But hey! The end justifies the means, doesn’t it?

AnonyMoose
August 28, 2015 9:47 am

It’s actually not hard to find that location. The Tweet has a short URL which goes to a newspaper article. The caption on the image says “Climate change activists’ graffiti on a billboard near the Didcot coal-fired power station in Oxfordshire, UK.”

Realist
Reply to  AnonyMoose
August 28, 2015 10:38 am

Yeah, it took me 2 seconds to find out what/where this was.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didcot_power_stations
It is indeed a fossil fuel power station. The picture is taken out of context since it looks like its pointing towards a cooling tower.

Keith Willshaw
Reply to  Realist
August 28, 2015 12:18 pm

Problem is the coal fired station at Didcot was closed sometime ago and the cooling tower in the picture was demolished. The only working unit is highly efficient modern combined cycle gas turbine station that uses smaller fan assisted units.
Dumb twice over it seems.

mikewaite
Reply to  Realist
August 28, 2015 1:06 pm

I was working at Chilton , looking down on Didcot when power stations A and B were still working and they were laying the foundations for the Diamond Synchrotron.
A red kite drifted over from the Ridgeway, circled around above the circular track of Diamond , then , having given its approval , moved over to the plume from one of the cooling towers , soared in and out of the plume , getting higher and higher until it disappeared from view . No choking or spluttering as far as i could see, just a kite (lazy bird, likes others to do its work for it , loves roadkill) enjoying the last days of the fossil fuel era.

SR
August 28, 2015 10:24 am

That “colorless odorless” condensate is really dihydrogen monoxide!!! How can you be so callous? Think of the children!

simple-touriste
Reply to  SR
August 28, 2015 12:05 pm

In France, just between the 1st of June and the 26th of July, 199 persons died from acute dihydrogen monoxide exposure. This is worse than expected!
These powerplants are killers!
Source : http://www.francetvinfo.fr/faits-divers/noyades/la-hausse-des-noyades-en-france-en-trois-graphiques_1020391.html

August 28, 2015 10:44 am

Well someone near Oxfordshire needs to ride a bicycle over there, gently take samples so we can analyse the paint for toxins, get tire and shoe molds from iprints in the dirt near the sign so we can determine the carbon “footprints” made by the transportation they used and whether their footwear was made with fossil fuels, and check for any vegetation damage done that could have occured while painting was done. Then, carefully correct the sign using organic paint without disturbing the already fragile ecosystem there, and report.
I’ll find a couple of grad students, an art professor and some psychologists who can write a scathing manuscript about the findings to submit for peer review.

Jay Dunnell
August 28, 2015 10:52 am

Taking a stab at comedy…
This is not pollution, Greenpeace, This is the industry’s effort to increase the albedo of the planet in order to counteract the rising CO2. Man made clouds, just like some informed scientist on your side demanded we do. Just give it time…

Boyfromtottenham
August 28, 2015 11:04 am

This is not humorous, it is propaganda! The Activists who made that sign know full well that its a lie, but they are going to keep repeating it until it becomes ‘truth’. Just like using the ‘carbon’ instead of ‘CO2’, etc. They are not stupid, they are very clever at using propaganda and disinformation. Skeptics are stupid if they think this is funny – it’s deadly serious.

knr
August 28, 2015 11:13 am

For the hard core Greens any power generation not is no renewable is a ‘climate crime ‘ for they know that a renewable only approach is the way to return to their mythical ‘ideal ‘ past, full of simply country folk and 101 mad , bad and rubbish ideas that in no way reflect the hard, grim and often short lives which was the reality of the ‘rural ideal’ they wish to return to.

Joe
Reply to  knr
August 28, 2015 11:32 am

we could send then to a sugar plantation on an island in the Caribbean, they can eat second grade salted cod for protein, oh wait, that’s been tried before.

Scott M
August 28, 2015 11:35 am

Maybe they understand that water vapor is the number 1 greenhouse gas

Eric
August 28, 2015 11:42 am

The photo is from here http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/aug/26/campaigners-mass-climate-action-paris-conference-noam-chomsky?CMP=share_btn_tw
The photo is of a cooling tower at a coal fired power plant in Oxfordshire, UK.
The original Greenpeace tweet contained a link to The Guardian article that says it is a coal-fired power plant.
WUWT may wish to update its post regarding this item.

simple-touriste
August 28, 2015 11:44 am

From the “cooling towers are evil fossil fuel icons” department and the mind of Greenpeace comes this hilariously funny (and stupid) tweet.

Bull.
These towers are nuclear icons. (*)
So they have to emit nuclear “radiations” (*).
And in the Simpsons they can acid rains (**).
(*) It’s annoying that not all nuclear plants have them.
(**) Radionuclides is a word too complicated for children and Greenpiss activists, distinction between radiations and radionuclides gives them headaches. And “radiated water” leaks from Fukushima Daiichi. I like “radiated” water.
(***) I think Burns’ plant is a representation of every polluting power plant or industry. TV entertainment doesn’t need to always be perfectly accurate, but some Grauniad commenters like to argue “based on the legal knowledge I got watching TV shows”… Some people think TV is reality. (****)
(****) See how these “footnotes” make my comment so serious and sciency?

Resourceguy
August 28, 2015 12:19 pm

Not knowing anything is their trademark and specialty.

August 28, 2015 12:21 pm

Why are there no comments allowed in the next post on NASA’s Broken Science?
[Not clear, don’t know right now. .mod]

Djozar
August 28, 2015 12:26 pm

Didn’t Penn & Teller do a show where they convinced environmental activists sign a petition to ban water (they used the chemical name instead of H2O or water)? Maybe we can get the same ones to ban the steam coming out of this administration.

Reply to  Djozar
August 28, 2015 12:42 pm

Yes, they did. I’ve mentioned this before here, but for the last five years or so when I was teaching a college essay-writing class I had a “guest speaker” (a friend of mine) come in half-way through the semester and give a lecture on the dangers of DHMO, after which he would give the class a petition to sign banning all foods prepared with DHMO from municipal properties. During that entire time only two students didn’t sign it (one because she didn’t think it would do any good, the other because she didn’t think I would actually allow a petition to be sent around in my class — which she was right about). Afterwards my friend and I would reveal what DHMO really was and then I would rail at the students for daring to sign a petition restricting other people’s choices based solely on the “information” presented by one person.

jones
August 28, 2015 12:45 pm

It’s not water vapour, it’s yucky ucky black carbon pollution….Look…
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Books/Pix/pictures/2010/3/10/1268222690808/Eggborough-power-station-001.jpg
Unlike the following depiction of pure emitted life-giving oxygen..
http://www.stewgreen.com/irrational_world/climatephotos/wind6.jpg

jones
August 28, 2015 12:47 pm

Just look at how black the poisonous carbon pollution has made these cooling towers.
http://www.v3.co.uk/IMG/138/129138/nuclear-cooling-towers.jpg
We’re dooooomed…..

August 28, 2015 12:51 pm

jones,
It’s probably just a coincidence that those pics are always taken with the sun behind the clouds of steam. They wouldn’t really want the clouds to look black, would they?

jones
Reply to  dbstealey
August 28, 2015 1:14 pm

“They wouldn’t really want the clouds to look black, would they?”
Ooooh yes…The blacker the better….

Ben of Houston
August 28, 2015 12:54 pm

Playing devil’s advocate for a moment, the generation of steam requires heat input. The fact that they have the stack means they had a boiler.
Now we know the Greenpeace group isn’t the most scientifically knowledgeable, and are downright illiterate when it comes to engineering, so they chose the wrong stack to photograph.
However, I call the “Fallacy Fallacy”. Simply because your opponent commits a fallacy does not mean they are wrong, so this line of mockery is not valid. It’s amusing, but it’s not reason. Please remember that, y’all.

Kozlowski
Reply to  Ben of Houston
August 28, 2015 1:04 pm

Which is why it is marked as a “Friday Funny.” To give the rest of us some comedic relief from the usual fare.

benofhouston
Reply to  Kozlowski
August 28, 2015 7:04 pm

I know. I don’t want to stop the mirth, just reign in the elation over what is in reality a minor detail.

Jason Calley
Reply to  Ben of Houston
August 28, 2015 7:51 pm

Hey Ben! “Simply because your opponent commits a fallacy does not mean they are wrong, so this line of mockery is not valid.”
I would disagree; here’s why. This mockery was not an attempt to show that the warmists are wrong. There are plenty of other articles on this site which demonstrate that. This particular mockery was an attempt to show that the warmists are generally stupid. I think it succeeded.

MattS
August 28, 2015 4:41 pm

It would be even funnier if that cooling tower turned out to be attached to a nuclear power plant.

Dawtgtomis
August 28, 2015 6:14 pm

Ironic to me that in the 1950’s all one had to do was look out the window to see a haze of coal smoke over any small town or big city, it didn’t matter what country. The human race really has cleaned up it’s act and the air and water show it.
Like every other movement that starts out beneficial, extremists have moved in to push the ecology movement into a frenzy of idealism that has become completely incoherent of reality and science.
Scientific jargon has very few words which invoke emotion, so it is useless to the campaigners.

benofhouston
Reply to  Dawtgtomis
August 28, 2015 7:08 pm

The most numerous and vocal supporters of this movement are in their 20s or low 30s, and are too young to remember the bad old days. Many are so inoculated that we are going to heck in a handbasket that they actually reject even EPA data that shows that air quality is improving.
Trust me, that was an infuriating discussion. It was almost as bad as dealing with the Flat Earth Society.

Reply to  benofhouston
August 28, 2015 9:27 pm

I think you are being a bit unfair to we members of the Flat Earth Society.
If you accept the consensus view that the earth is roughly spherical, how can you ever have a level playing field (LPF)?
The middle of such a theoretical construction would be nearer the centre of gravity of this proposed sphere than the edges, so if a billiard ball was placed on a perfectly smooth LPF it would roll towards the centre.
Not what level means on my understanding.

Jack
August 28, 2015 10:00 pm

Don’t give the Auustralian ABC too much credit. It only took then 20 years to correct the mistake and only then after many corrections. This is the station that has a science advisor on staff that believews sea level rise will be between 8 stories high to 100m. They also cheered on the Antarctic Ship of Fools that were stranded in ice they predicted wasn’t there.

August 28, 2015 10:34 pm

In Hunter Valley NSW the power company anticipated this by setting up its OWN roadside billboards. These inform the ignorant and greenies (BIRM) that they are emitting clouds of clean water from their cooling towers.

Bruce MacKinnon
August 29, 2015 4:51 am

Enjoyable commentary yáll. As pointed out by some, the actual CO2 as said comes out of the tall chimneys but is invisible. The scrubber equipment is so efficient it no longer produces a lot of black smoke like it does in cheap China that has not bothered about clean air until quite recently. The area over a big coal powered station is a no fly zone because any engine that will need oxygen as part of its engine input will suddenly stop because when in full cry there is virtually 100% emission which is oxygen free, so the aircraft would be in trouble, possibly.
Emission might be able to be photographed with an infra red camera at night. I would show a big inverted cone.
In Oz this minute comparatively would blow out over the vast Pacific Ocean and Southern Ocean, where it would be breathed in by plankton and seagrass which would turn it back into oxygen for us humans to breathe. The Carbon Cycle which we all were shown in out first week in high school biology. Australia produces little CO2 and we also have the biggest set of welcoming lungs on the planet just offshore and onward and out.

Warren Latham
Reply to  Bruce MacKinnon
August 29, 2015 11:57 am

Now THAT is a breath of fresh air !
Many thanks and Regards,
WL

Anna Keppa
August 29, 2015 9:10 am

During my freshman “Introduction to Engineering” class discussing enthalpy, latent vs. sensible heat and other such topics, the prof took pains to tell us “steam tables” didn’t refer to the stainless steel tubs our cafeteria served its food in.

Ian L. McQueen
August 30, 2015 8:52 am

Just a minor correction on the chemical name of H2O. A chemical is either a “mono” or a “di” (for simplicity), but not both, otherwise they cancel each other out. So I would spring for “di-hydrogen oxide”.
Ian

mrmethane
Reply to  Ian L. McQueen
August 30, 2015 10:14 am

H2O2 dihydrogen peroxide?

Gunga Din
Reply to  Ian L. McQueen
August 30, 2015 1:09 pm

An oldie but a goodie.
http://www.dhmo.org/
(The alarm is the same. The names have been changed to exploit the innocent.)

Gunga Din
August 30, 2015 1:05 pm

Activist don’t care about accuracy. They care about impression.

0jr
September 4, 2015 4:49 pm

how dumb evrybody knows nuke reactors are safe and clean

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