People send me stuff…
Readers may recall back on May 13th of this year I posted about a change in policy related to hate mail and hateful comments that get sent our way in:
Hump day hilarity: WUWT’s new policy on hate mail – your hate mail will be published
Since then, it seems the hate mail has dialed back a bit, probably because the sort of people that hurl this dreck are cowards who don’t put their name behind their words, sort of like “Sou” at “hotwhopper”, (aka Miriam O’Brien) who prefers daily denigration from the comfort of her imagined anonymity. This person is no different, but at least he/she says it’s a fake name.
Name: Shol Vadi
Email: shol.vadi@gmail.com
Message: Do you know what astounds me the most about this world?? The fact that there is a dedicated and extremely sophisticated group of people which is out there just to obfuscate science. They are full time into it! And they are even successful in misleading people. How do you sleep at night knowing that you are abetting in such a farce crime?
Anyways, I don’t have much about denier mentality. Do you get sleep at night?
But who cares. Deniers are loosing heavily. For decades you have succeeded, but the downfall was inevitable.
Leave the science to the scientist, will you?
Faux Name
Time: August 18, 2015 at 11:20 am
IP Address: 50.65.104.139
It seems this “faux” person is from Edmonton, Alberta Canada. It seems English isn’t their primary language, or they are simply poorly educated. It is hard to tell from the broken writing.
You know what astounds me in this world? That there are people with so little moral character that they have to hurl insults about scientific integrity from behind faux names.
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Thats a love letter.
I had no idea we were so successful in the eyes of the faithful.
Now if only my Big Oil check would come in.
“The fact that there is a dedicated and extremely sophisticated group of people which is out there just to obfuscate science.”
Is this Conspiracy Ideation!
“The fact that there is a dedicated and extremely sophisticated group of people which is out there just to obfuscate science.”
…Conspiracy Ideation
John Coleman
August 18, 2015 at 4:12 pm
While reading all these comments something I have overlooked for years suddenly came strongly into focus. The vast majority of commenters on this website hide their identity behind false names.
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Think of them as nicknames sweetcheeks…
It has been about 28 days since the last hysterical outburst.
lunar cycle?
John
Hi Anthony
Don’t let the hate mail get you down. Consider hate mail as an endorsement and that you are getting under the skin of these sick puppies. I would recommend that you visit Gerard Henderson’s Media Watch Dog site and see how he deals with hate mail. Go to the bottom of each weekly post.
That’s hate mail? To me the boredom caused by having to read it is its most disturbing effect. Passing by a school playground I have heard worse than that. I have said worse things than that to people I like.
O’ for a draft of vitriol that hath been
Penned in quick rage espousing crude distains
And personal attacks — a silent din
Of language in which no reason remains
A distillation of all that is left
After even grammar and spelling go —
Thereby something not completely bereft —
A silent scream of no art that we know
In ages past till reason ruled the mind
Before civilizations first began
The grunting savage vented his wind
And such were the rages of every man
Eugene WR Gallun
I used to teach maths in a western Sydney high school.
That is a particularly insipid effort from shol, and wouldn’t even get him in the front gate !!
nuff said !! 🙂
Dear Shol Vadi (aka: maybe sleepless over possible skeptic sleeplessness),
I think skeptics do want to leave climate science to scientists and do not want to leave climate science to pseudo-scientists.
When one reads (as I have) Mark Steyn’s book ‘A Disgrace to the Profession’, it is clear that many independent thinking PhDs in science have found that academics like Michael E. Mann (and his associated climategate friends) have produced what can reasonably be considered to be pseudo-science. Based on that then we can reasonably evaluate Mann and company to be pseudo-scientists; it is important to efficiently separate their pseudo-science from science.
John
“Dedicated and extremely sophisticated,” they said.
Anthony, you old devil you. Pat you on the back 😉
He/she calls climate skeptics “a dedicated and extremely sophisticated group of people.” Nice.
I suspect another one of those psych Cook ups is on the way-
‘97% of deniers are into propagating hate mail’
Well, at least we’re loosing…
David Ohls?
“Shol” originally put losing. But after the HADCRUT and GISS adjustments, it was loosing.
Not read all replies. Too many.
As an Albertan (trying hard to fight for sanity in climate information), I am embarrassed by this.
I suspect that the person is well educated and faking the mixed grammar…it is not difficult.
The Alberta Greenpeace staff/members and Pembina Institute people are all capable of such a letter. The writer is probably some 25 to 35-year old idealist who has swallowed the Kool-Aide (from Pembina et al) and thinks we can exist on wind and solar even in this cold, northern climate. They do not get it.
A colleague and I both received vitriolic hate mail a few years ago … bordering on threats that were almost harsh enough to take to the police. I still have that letter. Very sad.
BTW, there has to be a clue in Shol Vadi. Anyone? Google comes up blank.
Keep up the battle Anthony … and all of your contributors and readers.
CAS
“a dedicated and extremely sophisticated group of people which is…”
Is the writer referring to the group? Obviously, if the writer were referring to people the pronoun should be who are and not which is. Then in the next two sentences, the writer uses the pronoun they; probably referring to people and not the group that was emphasized by the use of which.
Probably an NDP EA (executive assistant). Oh. That may have been rude. I the other hand, I have known a number of Ministers and their EA’s over the years and some of them actually speak like this though their “public” statements are normally vetted by a writer. This could easily have come from deep I see government given teir current activities in soliciting input on “Climate Change”. And yes, I have already made two short submissions with a much longer detailed one on the way. I suspect others are doing the same so the temperature is rising.
We live in interesting times.
Stupid auto correct. But I imagine you get it. Maybe the writer was using a “dumb” phone too?
Sounds like it might have been written – in a misleading, dumbed down manner- by that faux Nobel prize winner who shall remain nameless.
The yapping chihuahu, has yapped..! 🙂
Lucky for it, it was behind a 6ft fence.. my Rotty is due for his feed !!
When arguing against the CO2 story, a new phase in my education began, both in print and via the
internet. The aggressive vitriol of some of the believers was an attitude I’d never encountered before – OK, maybe I was naive!
I think that many are truly convinced that life on Earth is in danger because of CO2. Others seem to be hitching a ride on the coat-tails of this very fashionable scare for reasons I can’t imagine – but then, I’m not a psychologist. Perhaps there’s a need of some kind to belong to a herd. Whatever, there is this odd mindset present which assumes that anyone who disagrees is either completely stupid or has sinister ulterior motives.
Yet I’ve noticed that in all my encounters in print and on the internet over the last few years, not a single believer has come up with figures or observations to back up their arguments. Not one has argued their case in their own words. The lame ‘leave it to the scientists’ won’t do! Links to videos are sometimes given, sometimes to a favored journal – as if to say ‘just read this and you will be enlightened’ – but never do the writers come up with their own views obtained from these links and set out in their own words, using their researched figures. They are incapable of constructing their own arguments to show that they’ve taken the trouble to look at some figures in detail. They’re probably too lazy to do so. Even science graduates such as the Member of the European Parliament I wrote to aren’t immune to this mindset.
When I first began to take an interest in the danger we supposedly face, I went into it with an open mind. Very soon I noticed that the self-styled gurus at ‘Skeptical Science’ selectively avoided issues they didn’t like. The condescending attitude to people who thought differently about things was very clear.
It didn’t take me long to make up my mind about the quality of this particular website!
I’m not surprised at the hate mail – yes, delete it. Why should anyone put up with it? It’s not as if the writers have anything worthwhile to say.
Interesting that you were made more sceptical by the antics of the SkS crowd.
On a previous thread there were a lot of testimonies about why readers of this blog became more sceptical.
And one of the main reasons was the antics of the RealClimate crowd. That website sank itself with its own censorship and hypocrisy.
(I summarise the reasons in this comment here).
But it’s curious that the similar behaviour (with similar reaction) is continued to this day across the Alarmist Blogosphere.
MCourtney: Thanks for the link – it certainly aroused a lot of comments. Going back to my early days, after I’d read Al Gore’s book, I came across Professor Robert M. Carter’s “Climate – The Counter Consensus”. It was clearly of a far higher calibre and of course scientific, but for a lesson in propaganda methods Gore’s book is outstanding!
“Faux” is French for false or fake. French is mush used in Canada.
Sou is not pleased : 🙂
“You know what astounds me in this world? That there are people with so little moral character that they have to hurl insults about scientific integrity from behind faux names.”
That’s part of the reason I use my real name. When someone is hurling insults at you, it’s hard to keep from retaliating in kind- and looking like a pig in a slough. Using my real name helps me by preventing me from posting anything I will be later ashamed of.
Ah, the poor baby. Little doubt that loosing this missal was soporific.
Rock a bye, baby
In alarmist trope.
Nature will see you
Safely to sleep.
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I suggest whenever you meet someone with this mindset and intellect, you simply thank them for confirming the Dunning-Kruger effect, and move one.
http://www.ipligence.com/geolocation
The above program and site shows precisely where that location is – Queens Park Village in Calgary Canada.