New York's new Climate Change Museum

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Remember back in the boring old days, when science museums contained meticulously researched information about the distant past, such as the age of the dinosaurs, interesting mineral exhibits, or educational demonstrations of scientific principles?

All that is about to change, with the planned construction of New York’s new climate change museum – a museum dedicated to fantasy theories about things which might happen, if we accept the predictions of climate models, which have yet to demonstrate any predictive skill whatsoever.

According to Grist;

For many, climate change is not yet personal, but Miranda Massie is trying to change that. Massie is the executive director of the forthcoming Climate Museum in New York City, a project that seeks to make the impacts of and solutions to a changing climate intimate and tangible. The museum was chartered by the New York Board of Regents on July 20, which brings the project one step closer to the fabled red ribbon.

It’s a venture steeped with ambition — a word that has seen a lot of play in the climate space recently. In the run-up to the negotiations in Paris this December, the United Nations has framed countries’ carbon-cutting commitments in terms of their levels of ambition; diplomats and policymakers have termed the apparent lack of political will necessary for a 2C world the “ambition gap.” In climate policy, ambition is everything.

The museum, which Massie aims to launch in an interim space of 10,000 to 20,000 square feet within the next two years, will be the first of its kind in the United States. (Hong Kong is home to the small Jockey Club Museum of Climate Change.) Backing her up is a heavy-hitting team of advisors and trustees, including environmental, legal, and communications leaders from the likes of Columbia University, New York’s Environmental Justice Alliance, NYU’s Tisch, NRDC, the London Science Museum, the National Audubon Society, and Harvard’s Kennedy School. Danish-Icelandic installation artist Olafur Eliasson lent early visionary sketches for the museum. While most plans are preliminary, one of Massie’s hopes is for an initial pop-up installation on Governors Island next summer.

Read more: http://grist.org/climate-energy/move-over-moma-new-yorks-new-climate-change-museum-is-about-to-be-the-hottest-place-in-town/

What a wonderful outing for the kids – all the excitement of a trip to the big city, then a few hours wandering around the climate museum, filling their impressionable little brains with messages of despair, destroying all their hopes and dreams.

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246 thoughts on “New York's new Climate Change Museum

  1. Why haven’t they built a museum for the alien invasion that’s coming next year? What, hadn’t you heard? Didn’t you get the memo?

      • … and true believers will be able to watch this on a state-of-the-art audio visual display!

    • They hadn’t tweaked the weasel-word clause in the invasion model sufficiently, I’m afraid.

    • I am going to quit my job, and take up permanent residence outside the museum, wearing a sandwich board that says “The End Isn’t Nigh”.
      Just to make sure the absurdity is 100% complete.

      • Excellent.
        Looking at Cthulhu up there menacing that rowboat, I’ve always wondered how something with glowing eyes could see.

      • Mike:
        As I remember the ancient Greeks thought that we see due to some sort of rays emanating from our eyes – i.e. that sight was an active rather than passive process. Of course, that doesn’t really fit with being unable to see in a dark room…

      • Cthulhu is a god. Why wouldn’t he have glowing eyes? All the better to awe us mere mortals with their power and invincibility.

      • Actually, handing out broadsides with corrections to the errors that will be found inside is a good idea. Make them simple to understand, colorful, and accurate. Examples: model projections vs. measurements, bad temperature measuring stations, the failed predictions of CAGW. Be factual, polite, and friendly. It will drive them mad inside. Having a real location for skeptical education is a gift they really don’t want to be giving, but they never weren’t to bright about communication.

      • Climate scientists have glowing eyes. They use them to see things that are not there. I am not sure if they are red.

      • Mike,
        It’s actually quite easy for something with glowing eyes to see……for I have observed the “Whitewood Lake Monster”. It was a cold, dark, rainy, fall night when I shut off the generator I was using while building my “back woods” cabin. The lake turned pitch black. I looked across the leafless black trees to the lake, and saw the monster. It was silently drifting along the shoreline, it’s glowing yellow eyes floating several feet above the water. With no sound, at all, it easily traversed the jagged shoreline, barely visible in the black night. It slowly approached my exposed shoreline point! Bravely I stood my ground to protect my treasured homestead!!!
        It was……..a bass fisherman. He wore spectacles, with a small flashlight mounted on each bow. The flashlights were either low on batteries, or wired in series to preserve battery life. He steered the electric motor with his foot, so as not to bend down to move the tiller. The glowing “eyes” were to see. For with each cast, he would hold the lure up to the light to clean the weeds from the hook.

      • Yes SMC … the alarmists come here, drop a conspiracy theory then go somewhere else and make up rubbish saying we support conspiracy theories because of the the CT posts on here. Could be one of many that drop these bombs then run like hell. Too chicken to say anything they may end up tying themselves in knots .. e.g. David Appell the other data, what a laugh that was.

      • heh… I wish David Appell would show up again. It was hilarious the last time and I would love to break out the popcorn while he is dissected.

  2. Oh so, I trust they will site it on what will become known as James Hansen Drive, predicted to be underwater before the building was commissioned..
    As classic as the display at Kilauea Volcano, where human emissions are described as an ecological problem, then inside the visitors centre there was an estimation of Kilauea’s contribution.
    Somebody at the National Park has a sense of humour.

    • TUESDAY, JULY 28, 2009
      GRAMMA BONES
      James Latimer Jones, our mentor, upon his death, has his ashes and spirit set free along with the bones of more than one hundred ancient Native American Indians brought from across the Southwest by Gramma Bones to Hasler Research Center for study by Inductively Coupled Plasma Atomic Emission Spectroscopy.
      On the phone I can barely understand her, and must frequently ask her to repeat herself. It was something about analysis of zinc in human bones she wants. How much would it cost? Several labs had quoted her fifteen to twenty dollars for each sample and for only one element, zinc, by atomic absorption analysis and she could personally pay for 20 samples or so.
      I ask this person, a student at San Diego State University working on her masters thesis, to visit us at the lab and explain for us what she is trying to accomplish. We’d show her our capabilities and the lab. I was guessing and hoping that being in the same room and being able to see her would help facilitate communication.
      Our Director of Research, Dr. Chris Anderson, thinks it might be a good idea to just go ahead, do the work as a freebie, and get a paper out of it. Anything to show that our Inductively Coupled Plasma (ICP) actually works! Claude Veillon and Marvin Margoshes, two of the resident spectroscopy gods at the National Bureau of Standards (now NIST, National Institute of Standards and Technology) in their earlier publication (1), were thorough in their condemnation of ICP’s as being subject to severe interferences and having no real quantitative analytical utility whatever in their concluding statement.
      On the appointed day, our receptionist Norma Hampel calls back to the lab to tell me Pauline Stedt has arrived. She appears to be in her leathery late sixties, has a stuffed briefcase in one hand and a cane in her right hand. We greet each other while I fumble about shaking her hand without removing her cane support. One side of her face is drooped and I understand why I have such difficulty understanding her speech.
      Then as quickly, I can see how difficult it is for her. Every word she chooses is an effort for her to recall, and then form into intelligible sounds what it is she wants to convey about her project work. On the way to the conference room and library she drags the leg corresponding to the drooped side of her face.
      When we’re settled in, she explains that she has a simple hypothesis for her masters thesis in physical anthropology. She wants to settle the ongoing tug of war the cultural and physical anthropologists had been fighting for decades. Each camp would claim that a burial site had been inhabited by either of the two major Southwest Native American groups, the Freemont (hunter-gatherers) or Anasazi (sedentary-agricultural).
      She hypothesizes that the Freemont would have higher zinc levels in their bones being meat eaters, and that the Anazazi would have lower levels of zinc because they ate more plant material containing phytate which would complex zinc making it less available for absorption in the gut and to be sequestered in bone tissue. Nice simple hypothesis. All she has to do is try to prove it!
      Pauline digs a plastic bag of individually wrapped bone fragments out of her briefcase and she unwraps a few of them. There are digits, wrist and ankle bones, rib fragments, vertebra. They are identified by a numbering system she has in her notebook. I ask about the ink used to identify them. It might contaminate the analysis results, I point out. We’ll have to have a sample of it, or of them, or remove it before analysis by dry grinding with non-contaminating carbide tools. Does she have any of the soil from which these bones were excavated? No, but some notes kept by the archaeologists. Red and yellow ochre was part of the burial dress of some.
      “Can you get some?”
      “Maybe.”
      It looks like we might as well run all 28 elements we have in the spectrometer array because we surely will find a lot more than just the zinc she’s looking for. Other elements may have been carried in or out of the bone based on burial conditions, and long term interactions with the surrounding soil and moisture conditions. There goes the neat hypothesis out the window!
      Now she’s fearful and almost in tears that the analysis would cost a fortune she doesn’t have. I apologize, telling her that I had gone into our meeting assuming we are going to do her analyses free of charge. What a relief! Now she could continue going forward, she says.
      Then, with intensity she asks, “When can we start?”
      “Jon and I have some project work we need to finish.”
      “How long will it take?”
      “Maybe two months.”
      She looks disappointed. I explain that when we get started we can rip through sample analyses at one every couple minutes, and for 28 elements simultaneously!
      By the look that passes across her face something clicks in her head, but she makes no mention of it.
      “Oh”she says, changing the subject, “I almost forgot. These are copies of the papers I could find on analysis of ancient bones.”
      More homework for me. That’s a wrap for now, and I ask Pauline how she got started on this pursuit, not mentioning that it’s rather late in her life to set out to get one’s masters in physical anthropology.
      She tells me she married a young sailor in San Diego, raised four navy brats while working as a nurse assistant to an orthopedic surgeon group, and her husband has finally retired from his military service.
      It’s her turn now!
      So, as a surgical nurse in orthopedics, she has a running start on the science background needed, plus the solid practical experience and background in bone structure and identification. Physical anthropology was a natural for her!
      She gets half way through her second semester of anthropology classes and has a stroke, then another. Can’t walk, can’t speak, can’t write. She works at getting herself unaided into a wheel chair. Hires a student assistant to help get her to and from and around campus. Takes a tape recorder to class for notes (with permission of course) and types them manually (no laptops then, not even Apples) and starts all over again toward her initial goal.
      Pauline leaves Hasler Research Center (HRC) and is off again on her mission. That afternoon I drafted a design for a plexiglass piston and cylinder with which to pulverize our bone samples for weighing, acid digestion and analysis without contaminating them with the metals we would be looking for.
      We hadn’t heard from Pauline for over a month when she called from a museum out in the pucker-brush somewhere. She reported she’d traveled a great loop in the Southwest through Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada and Utah where she’d begged and pleaded with museum directors and curators pitching her thesis to obtain more samples of well-provenanced bone in the two categories, Anasazi and Freemont. Now she has seventy five more samples! Was that OK, she asks. Sure, I reply. I figure she’ll get some solid statistics out of this collection.
      I finish reading all the reference papers Pauline has gathered on analysis of bone and find that regardless of analytical instrumentation or method employed, not a single author has wondered if their work was validated by analysis of bone with values obtained by definitive measurements, thus settling any question about analytical errors unwittingly committed.
      Now, I’m becoming concerned about what we’ll use for independent well-analyzed certified reference materials to validate our methodology and work! I contact George Alexander at UCLA who routinely does trace element analysis of environmental samples for the good folks at the Nevada Nuclear Test Site. George tells me there is no available human bone certified reference material, but he can give me some of “Oscar” for which he has generated trace element values, including the major elements Calcium and Phosphorus. This is a treasure! And even better is that “Oscar” has never been in the ground to get contaminated, or lose elements to the soil by leaching.
      Earlier, Pauline had offered to obtain a 1 gram sample of Native American bone thought to be twenty to forty thousand years old. It was one found on the California coast and had been age dated by Dr. Jeffery Bada using his new aspartic acid recemization technique. It could be a good indicator of long term compositional drift of bone in soil, but it still wasn’t a beacon thoroughly established as having the “true values” ascribed to Certified Reference Materials produced by the National Bureau of Standards that all could reasonably agree were “true and correct”.
      George at UCLA, who’s experienced doing work for nuclear agencies worldwide, directs me to the work of Isabell Tipton, a British chemist, who during and following the Second War established elemental concentration values for whole human cadavers for their nuclear development programs. I imagine her stirring up a giant pot of human stew (hair, toenails and all except the socks) until completely dissolved in acid. I wonder “Was she a vegan before, or after? Did she have a bowl of soup for lunch?”
      Anyway, these data Isabell generated became known as “standard man”. Additionally, she broke her “standard man” tabulations down into separate organs such as liver, brain, heart, spleen, and others including bone. Here are at least literature reference values available to us for uninterred human bone tissue, in the absence of physical material other than “Oscar”.
      My colleague, Dr. Jim Hinthorne, a geologist with a specialty in rock formation, suggests Phosphate Rock from the NBS (now NIST) pointing out that it was fossilized material from an ancient Pliocene seabed laden with bone and shark teeth. Its matrix and trace element composition is very similar to soil-contaminated human bone which is Pauline’s interest, but best of all, this bone is very well characterized by independent expert analysts who are in agreement about its composition within very narrow ranges. This becomes our beacon and anchor for valid objectively verifiable analytical results.
      Pauline returns with over one hundred bone samples, intending to do her project up right. With the bones contributed by George Alexander we had a total of one hundred twenty bones. My young son, Russ, persuaded me to include a bone he excavated in Sycamore Canyon near Santa Barbara. As a youngster he’d been fortunate to be allowed on a National Geographic sponsored survey near Tonopah Nevada at a site which dated back five to ten thousand years. He is very interested in the procedures of archaeology, and inspired by Pauline, whom he dubbed Gramma Bones after she’d joined us for a few meals at our home as we worked on her analyses and their interpretations.
      It is time to begin the sample analysis work now. The first task is to prepare the individual bone samples for analysis. I wait until the weekend when it would be quiet around the labs and machine shop. I need to concentrate and focus on the task without interruption or distraction. Everything is in place and ready, but I just can’t bring myself to start. A step in the process is missing.
      I take a quiet time to “have a talk” with each and all of my subjects to explain why we are gathered here this Saturday morning. To explain exactly what we are doing. What will happen to them. That their spirit will be taken into solution and pass up through the core of this argon plasma, hotter than the surface of the sun, to be atomically excited, and emit their specific light telling their ancient stories to all of us who are living now. Then they will journey up into the sky, finally returning to re-join Earth as the original thermonuclear burnt and exploded star dust from which we, and all our ancestors, and all that we know, are made.
      After that, the mundane repetitive process of sample weighing, dissolution, digestion, and presentation to the instrumentation flows through to a resulting blizzard of data which need interpretation. What is the story to be told in these snow banks of raw information?
      These bones begin to tell their story right away, as part of the story becomes clear even before analysis.
      I have a perfectly intact finger digit to crush for weighing. Upon crushing I find grains of sand as large as several
      millimeters! How’d it get in there? No cracks, crevices or holes were evident before opening the digit.
      These “sand” grains must have formed as fresh new crystals in the hollow space over time following burial,
      because silicon is found only at low parts per million (ppm) levels in unexposed human bone. As much as thirty
      eight weight percent (380,000 ppm) of one sample turns out to be nitric-perchloric acid indigestible silica grains.
      This evidence of contamination from the outside is ominous for Pauline’s general hypothesis.
      Essentially, the data show both major and trace elements alike have concentration ranges a factor of ten to one hundred times greater than expected for unexposed and uncontaminated human bone tissue. The story is that elemental bone composition is not stable over time when exposed to interaction with moisture, soil, and burial artifacts.
      This is illustrated in Figure 1 where n is the number of bone analyses comprising the data presented. The horizontal axis is concentration of element found, and the vertical axis is a smoothed frequency of occurrence at concentration indicated. The hatched segments are the literature reported ranges of elemental concentrations for unexposed human bone. The very narrow range for K (potassium), Mg (magnesium), and Na (sodium) reflect that these elements in living bone are normally under tight homeostatic control, but when the bone is exposed to soil they literally drain out of this dead tissue.
      The case for Cu (copper) and Zn (zinc) are debatable. However, Sr (strontium), Ba (barium), Mn (manganese), Fe (iron) and Al (aluminum) for the most part, appear to intrude into the soil-exposed bones we examine, as was the case for silicon showing up as “sand” grains inside the bones examined earlier at time of crushing for weighing. These results were devastating to the original general hypothesis Pauline had formed for testing.
      Without fear or hesitation Pauline marched straight forward and boldly drew her conclusions. Her hypothesis had not been confirmed. Instead, she drew in her Masters Thesis a sizeable list of lessons to be learned about archaeometry of bone tissue for elemental composition, and validation of analytical methodology for trace and major elemental analysis of human bone tissue. Determined as ever, she decided she needed to continue her work and pursue her PhD.
      In retrospect, we might have sieved through the samples analyzed qualifying for further examination only those for which concentrations of both major and trace elements fell within the ranges expected for unexposed human bone, only then, looking for possible significant differences between cultural populations for zinc in bone as she had originally hypothesized.
      We did some follow up work for Pauline on the subject of intrusion and exchange of elements in bone. Another worker in the field, Gilbert, (2) had selected tibia (shin) as the best sample material to work with. This is the thickest cross section and highest density of all human bones, has none of the usual porosity of other bone, and has the least turnover thus being more likely to preserve nutritional history (living bone is constantly being destroyed by osteoclasts, and at the same time in another location is being built anew by osteoblasts).
      She obtained a section of shin for us. One section we analyzed whole. With the next adjacent slice of tibia from the same individual we removed by abrasion with silicon carbide the outer “skin” of several millimeters which visually appeared to be stained when compared with the interior.
      We were gratified to learn that the section which had been “peeled” of its outer layer showed concentration values more nearly comparable with “Oscar” and the literature values of unexposed bone, whereas the “unpeeled” section showed the drift of elements characteristic of leaching and intrusion illustrated in figure 1. Gilbert’s conclusions were congruent with our observations and measurements.
      Pauline’s work pointed to what needed to be done in the future. A potential mentor for her, Professor George Armelagos, Department of Anthropology at University of Massachussets wrote her … “your thesis … should set the standards for methodology for years to come.”
      I lost track of Pauline when she went East to explore possibilities of continuing her studies and work, and I relocated from Santa Barbara to the Los Angeles area, but I believe she completed her PhD at University of California Riverside.
      ____________
      1) Hypothesis failed: knowledge gained. No loss: net gain.
      2) Pauline’s willingness to ask for help … and get it … was a large lesson for me.
      ____________
      (1) An evaluation of the induction-coupled, radio-frequency plasma torch for atomic emission and atomic absorption spectrometry Claude Veillon, Marvin Margoshes,
      Spectrochimica acta. Part B, Atomic spectroscopy, Vol: 23, Issue: 8, Date: 1968-8, Pages: 503-512. ISSN: 0584-8547,
      Abstract:
      A study has been made of the induction-coupled, 4.8 MHz, plasma torch as a source of atoms for emission and absorption spectrochemical analysis. The factors evaluated include sensitivity, limits of detection, inter-element effects, limitations, and general convenience. In agreement with other reports, the plasma torch was found to give useful emission signals for several elements which are difficult to excite in chemical flames, such as B, Ta, and Ti. The value of the source for atomic absorption spectrometry was found to depend on the availability of bright line sources. Pronounced inter-element effects were found, affecting particularly the emission signals. In most cases, these inter-element effects were enhancements of the emission, although in one case a suppression was observed. Except for a few refractory elements, the 4.8 MHz plasma torch does not appear to be a suitable replacement for the chemical flame.
      (2) Gilbert, Robert I. Trace Element Analysis of three Skeletal American Indian Populations at Dickson Mounds. Ph.D. Dissertation, University of Massachusetts.
      Footnote 1: [Since the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA) of 1990 forbids any disturbance of burial sites and their contents, this avenue of inquiry was closed. Kennewick Man stirred the controversy again a few years later. Pauline’s kind of study would be prohibited in future.]
      Footnote 2: [When James Latimer Jones, our mentor at Hasler Research Center died, Jon and I, with the support and encouragement of his wife Betty, ran a few hundred milligrams of his ashes through the same plasma which our Native American visitors had earlier traversed on the way to rejoining with all of nature.]
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      POSTED BY RAF LEON DAHLQUIST AT 3:57 AM

      • Dahlquist,
        Very moving story of a dedicated lady, who despite her handicap wanted to go on with her life and science, no matter the outcome for what her original ideas were… Hat off for such a courage!
        What a difference with the science fiction museum they are going to build all based on the fantasy of failed models…

      • Ferdinand,
        Thanks for the reply.
        This was a story my father wrote about this wonderful woman, Pauline. I recall it very well and even have her thesis paper to this day. I was a teenager at the time and she actually did use a bone from one of my discoveries in a deep pit in the canyon mentioned… as a calibration sample.
        It seems that so many do not really understand the scientific method of testing a hypothesis to the ultimate confirmation or falsification of that hypothesis. And also to the many discoveries and additions to the general knowledge and understanding of natural processes…Which contribute to the general knowledge for further discovery and understanding. ( So much information it is a chore to try to list the benefits to science from a simple test of a hypothesis ). Pauline had an idea, but it was proven undoable in the strictest sense, but the knowledge gained from the study gave valuable information for future advancement in this area of study, and probably many others as well.
        The story is just about one method and one hypothesis. There are many, many old and new ways for testing an idea. This is just one story about the way things are done in the scientific method, in this one area of analytical chemistry/spectroscopy/metry, but in general, how science is, and should be done, regularly. No ifs, ands, buts or assumptions, possibilities, and maybes, as is the pseudo science of climate research today. Climate study today is not science. Not only is it not science…It is political and emotional. Science has no room for anything other than facts and real, proven data.
        Dahlquist

      • Good science, which many – myself included – feel is sadly lacking in some parts of the Watermelons’ Scam.
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    • yet, they have. To accompany the black-balled reservoirs steeping in Cauliflowernia Sunshine.

    • You have to understand–New York on any given weekend resembles Dr. Seuss’ “Solla Sollew.” Only here can you see 800 “men” with 5-day shadow riding skateboards down broadway, complete with helmet cams and shirtless. Only here do you see 5,000 similarly self-styled “adults” dressed up in Santa suits. Or with shamrocks sprouting from their noses, drunk off their rocks in public. The whole PLACE is some kind of “museum,” mostly of immaturity, absurdity, and insanity.

  3. It is very akward to make a museum of the future.
    It would be more informative to make a museum of the past climate change, so that peoble could see that there is not so much new.

    • But they’ll get to revise the museum every year, thus creating yet more work for otherwise useless climate-obsessed people.

    • it would be interesting to see how the revisionists would deal with the past climate actually. i mean, look at the hockey stick! it is as flat as a tack before the AGW, so they would have to present a past where hmm lets see-
      1- the arctic sea ice is always growing and the antarctic is always shrinking
      2- the ice core data really shows no change over the past thousands years
      3- the little ice age paintings were just that and other proxy data from around the world at that time are just a fluke
      4- the vikings thought greenland was a great place to farm ice, as they do
      5- the sea level starts changing hundreds of years ago because man built many fireplaces!

    • Right next door too the 6″7″-and-over Jockey Club? IIR, they keep small-jockey clubs* behind the bar within easy reach in case those little fellows from next door try to sneak in.
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      *Similar to, but shorter than a cricket bat, for those unfamiliar.

  4. Oh wow, a museum of stuff that hasn’t happened yet, there’s a novelty!
    Only the climate science industry could have dreamed that up.

    • And in November, when their big pow-wow in Paris results in not ONE piece of paper that binds anyone to anything (as per the last 30 years), they’ll blame it on us skeptics skewing public opinion. Hey, we can dream! 😉

      • Goldrider: “And in November, when their big pow-wow in Paris results in not ONE piece of paper that binds anyone to anything (as per the last 30 years)”
        You do them an injustice.
        In fact, there is one vital issue that has been decided every year, without fail.
        That is which five-star resort will host the next great billion bollar p!ss-up, complete with the carbon footprint of a small industrial nation.
        Funny how these get-togethers never seem to happen in Scunthorpe or Skegness, isn’t it?

    • You missed the point: It’s an tentative plan for a museum that might be built which would show stuff that hasn’t happened yet. And yet, the plan could be finalized and the museum could be built showing stuff that COULD happen…… if only there was enough money. Or some such nonsense like that. Phew. Confusing.

      • Which is why Eisenhower wanted lots of pictures and documentation of the concentration camps. Because he knew people would deny the Holocaust ever happened.

      • You have a slight problem there Bolshevictim. There is plenty of evidence that supports that the holocaust actually did happen. Personally I think the comments should be removed as this site is nothing to do with the holocaust. If you want something interesting, look around SkS there are photos of Cook in NAZI uniform.
        If you dont believe me here is the photo.
        https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/1_herrcook.jpg

      • Mods
        I. like Man Bear above, would seek to have this comment removed promptly.
        Thanks for considering.
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        [Reply: since it’s an opinion without any specifics, commenters here can take him to the woodshed. ~mod.]

  5. I saw the same type of thing at a countryside solar plant in Asia a few years back. All fire and brimstone, and flies, and a recording of the dead guy (the last one apparently) telling what went wrong. Worse than any Sunday school I ever heard of (other than Jim Jones’s I reckon). It’s child abuse provided by the state and connected enterprises. But, those poor kids have to go and learn how to accept $0.32 / kwh electric power, I guess, even though they are already poor and living in a malfunctioning country.

    • Class trips by every grade from every school in the city, for starters. Let the propaganda roll. Profs at CUNY and Columbia U. make up assignments to visit and report.

      • That is really the truth. This will be used to further the propaganda forced down our children’s throats. It will then likely be used as a template for more museums around the country.

      • I learned from being a parent,that while helping them grow up over time, that they need to feel SAFE in their lives. Filling their heads up with doom and gloom propaganda,is child abuse plain and simple.

      • “It will then likely be used as a template for more museums around the country.”
        If they had an sense, they’d have long ago sent a mobile museum, or a dozen of them, like bookmobiles, maybe in pairs or triplets, on tours visiting schools across the country.
        (OK Soros, where’s my $1 million consulting fee?)

    • Except the creationist have no plans that will cause you harm, funded it themselves, and are actually talking about the past. Other than that pretty much the same.

      • I wouldn’t say they, “have no plans that will cause you harm”. Their blind faith in the Bible and complete disregard of evolutionary science would be a problem if it wasn’t completely disregarded by the vast majority of society.

      • In case you did not et the memo, we no longer have to worry about wrecking science.
        Although this museum will be like icing on an ice cream cake…stuffed with icing.

      • SMC These days in the United States you can ignore fundamentalist stuff but not environmentalist stuff stop being so silly. Those of us who enjoy science wherever it may lead have always been rare among the human race!

      • Fossilsage, I don’t think you can ignore the “fundamentalist stuff” anymore than you can ignore the “environmentalist stuff”. Both have their good aspects and both can be, and have been, corrupted. The good aspects are generally ignored or taken for granted and the bad aspects make headlines.

      • SMC, how exactly does someone else’s none belief in evolution harm you?
        Or are you admitting that you are one of those people who stay awake at night obsessing that somewhere there is someone who doesn’t agree with you on everything?

      • MarkW, someone’s non-belief in evolution doesn’t harm me. And no, I don’t stay awake at night worrying about it. However, the fanatical belief in something, whether it is creationism or CAGW, has a real possibility of causing harm. As for creationism and the belief behind it is pretty harmless. CAGW and the belief behind it however, is potentially very harmful.

      • Except the creationist have no plans that will cause you harm, funded it themselves, and are actually talking about the past.

        Those “ignorant” creationists built churches, hospitals, schools, food banks and instilled a moral foundation that has made Western Civilization the envy of the world. What have these leftists given the world? Communism? Fascism? Human Slaughter unseen since the beginning of time? Hoaxes like DDT, Ozone Hole Global Warming? Entitlement programs that are certain to make the US the next Greece? Irresponsible spending designed to bankrupt America?
        http://www.thenation.com/article/weight-poor-strategy-end-poverty/
        Morally Bankrupt Propaganda techniques detailed in Rules for Radicals.
        They are attempting to base America upon a complete set of lies and misguided ideologies.
        Corruption on an epic scale that has destroyed the credibility, reliability and integrity of the Government, Educational System, Scientific Community, Media, Legal, NGO and Culture.

      • SMC , you seem to be suffering from some Dawkinesqe religion bigotry. Take your small mindedness somewhere else.

      • Richard Dawkins is, apparently, an atheist. I’m not. Sorry if you seem to feel my comments constitute religious bigotry.

      • Well, according to the creationists, the earth is only about 10,000’ish years old… which would make the rest of the universe only slightly older.

      • Just because we don’t understand it, doesn’t mean we have to invoke miracles. Or anthropomorphize it.

      • Coincides nicely with the Holocene. Creationists put the beginning of earth at 4003 BC, give or take the week it took to assemble the parts. That coincides nicely with the point where man started keeping a diary.

      • MONDAY — This new creature with the long hair is a good deal in the way. It is always hanging around and following me about. I don’t like this; I am not used to company. I wish it would stay with the other animals. . . . Cloudy today, wind in the east; think we shall have rain. . . . WE? Where did I get that word-the new creature uses it.
        TUESDAY — Been examining the great waterfall. …
        Extracts from Adam’s Diary (translated & edited by Mark Twain)

    • I am not religious in any sense of the word, I do not worship a god of any creed. I believe the world is at least 14 billion yhears old. I am completely agnostic and I also do not have any problems with anyones beliefs as they are fully entitled to them as I am in my beliefs as long as they dont come near me wagging their finger.
      Be it Islam, Hindu, Creationism, Judaism, Christianty, whateverism. Making fun of someone because they are of one creed is no different to the Naziism of the Early 20th century.
      There are other religions that think the world began 3 or 4 thousand years ago and christianity is one of them. Look at the first chapter in the old testament.

      • The earth is about 4.5 billion years old, or so. The universe is estimated to be about 14 billion years old… or so.

      • There are other religions that think the world began 3 or 4 thousand years ago and christianity is one of them. Look at the first chapter in the old testament.

        Yep, Islam, Judaism and Christianity all share the Old Testament. The misguided selective moral of the left however is directed at Christianity. Their blind hatred towards Christianity and morally bankrupt double standards allow them to create hate speech symbols directed towards Christians when Creationism is detailed in Genesis of the Old Testament. This hate symbol is really an insult to Muslims and Jews. Christians focus on the New Testament. Also, I’ve never seen the Left Wing complain about no gay marriages being performed at Mosques, they only attack the Catholics.
        https://ajmacdonaldjr.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/darwinfish.jpg
        BTW I dare the Left Wingers that sanctimoniously drive around with that hate symbol on their Priuses to use an image of Mohamed to mock those of religious faith. All religions have issues, yet the Left only attack those do gooders Christians. They want gays in the NFL lockerroom, but not Tim Tebow. The hypocritical intolerance of the left is beyond description.

  6. …late of course, but it is good to see that the museum crowd has just learnt to get its snout into the climate change funding trough.

  7. Wouldn’t a museum of climate have exhibits talking about all the times in the last 10K years when the earth has been much warmer than it is today?

    • the new “science” reality–Pick any recent convenient date–say 1880, or 1970, or??? and the world at that point in time is set in stone–always was exactly that way, and any change from that static point is obviously the result of us pesky humans going about the business of living.

  8. ‘ All that is about to change, with the planned construction of New York’s new climate change museum – a museum dedicated…’ – a museum dedicated to Fear Mongering…

      • the chance to continue teaching critical thinking has passed. eg critical thinking on the subject of global warming will lead you to understand the failure of the hypothesis, yet there are a large portion of the peers in the field willing to ignore the scientific method. if that percent is higher than 50% then the game is up. it no longer pays to think critically and will eventually just cause you trouble. this is where we are at now with human development in general. it is the reverse of the enlightenment.

  9. Is there a museum of the dangers of not doing vaccinations against, well, everything?
    With calamities sent on the people, etc.

  10. Let them do it. Let them chisel their predictions into a mighty granite edifice, if that is what they wish to do.
    In twenty years, when children still know what snow is, when Polar Bears are continuing to thrive, when no trend of rising hurricane frequency and power has materialized, when the Bangladeshi delta and the Maldives are still above sea level, etc etc – then…
    Well, actually, then people will have just as much reason to figure out that these predictions are bullcrap as they do now. Because all these predictions were made 10, 20 or 30 years ago, and have already failed.
    Anyway, if brain-dead journalists and bloggers plan to continue to parrot the idiotic model based predictions then they might want to consider closing the comments section below their articles.
    Because, people are waking up – and we won’t put up with this shit anymore!!
    As demonstrated in the comments below this hilariously stupid piece of garbage from newsweek:
    http://www.newsweek.com/polar-bears-start-dying-ten-years-thanks-climate-change-349828

    • Sorry M. le frog, won’t happen.
      Wrong predictions will go down the memory hole, any trends that point to their predictions occuring will be trumpeted, and if we fall into an ice age, they’ll say: “See, our cuts in CO2 worked.”
      You can’t win.

    • LOL, why would warming kill the polar bears? Do they eat ice? Polar bears seem to do just fine is zoos around the world. I would image the less harsh environment would allow the polar bears to thrive. In the series “Planet Earth” there is a scene where a Polar Bear swims across to an island with many huge Walruses. The bear, being about 1/2 the size of one of these walruses, attacks a big one. The bear gets gored, and stumbles off to die. The narrator blames the bear’s death on climate change. That isn’t a joke.

    • I hear hear at The Verge they are no longer allowing comments on climate related articles. They have always been liberal in permitting no holds barred contributions. Some denizens of WUWT have been citing well sourced arguments from here with some effect. Others counter with the ‘science’ of Cook and Mann. It has been pretty active, not to say acrimonious.
      I presume the skeptics have been effective, otherwise The Verge would see no need to close a public discussion space.

  11. I guess they haven’t gotten the memo:
    Tomorrowland $140 million dollar bust.
    Anyone with an ounce of integrity should be able to a setup to a huge financial loss in this. But hey, at least they are not calling it as such. Just Climate policy motivated with “ambition.” And they are likely spending someone else’s money, not their own money at risk.
    Climate ambition = an activist’s world view where truth and uncertainty hold no relevance.

  12. A museum for the greatest scam in history …?
    Why not wax figures of the Mann, Hansen, alGore et al. in the horror section of Madame Tussauds …?

      • Bottom melt, of course. From all the methane rich hot air that they are blowing out of their ass.
        (Although, I have now learned that the correct term is basal melt. That scary melting story that can distract everyone from the clear evidence that satellites observe that there has never been so much Antartic sea ice.)

  13. Governors Island is the perfect place for it! It’s only 172 acres & NOBODY goes there. Except Hillary C. She had her re-re-relaunch there. Could not be a better place for this museum to the absurd.

    • Just goes to prove the current generation is way smarter than those that preceded it. Myself, my parents and my grandparents all thought the government couldn’t tax the air we breathe. Gen X Y and Z posivitly insist on it.

      • Don’t include Gen X. We’re too busy rebelling against the Baby Boomers. Gen Y (I don’t know) is too busy being brainwashed.

      • Old44 says, “Myself, my parents and my grandparents all thought the government couldn’t tax the air we breathe. Gen X Y and Z posivitly insist on it.”
        Paul McCartney is now “looking at the data” and concluding that the evidence for AGW is incontrovertible. You picked the wrong sex-drugs-occult prophet to hold up as an example of “don’t lay a heavy trip on me man question authority” philosophy.
        Try again?
        An alternative explanation is that the Cannabis Generation is the source of all of the weapons grade environmentalism, and further, that the Boomers are now miseducating the successive generations with increasing intensity. Eric Worrall is correct to point out that the intended audience for this Climate Museum is school children.

      • I assume McCartney has decent accountants.
        Top tax rate – before the Brown and Osborne fiddles – is 45%.
        Ahhhhh!
        The fiddles.
        All sorts of allowances and decreases, which make the UK possess the most complicated [SURELY] tax regime in the world.
        Surely taxes should be
        low
        compulsory
        unavoidable . . .
        What is not to like.
        Auto

  14. This is not a museum in any sense of the word. It is purely a propaganda device. I see that there is an “impressive” list of supporters, I.e. other museums, a university, Audubon Society, Harvard’s Kennedy School and so fourth, but who is actually paying for this? Which individuals by name are involved at the monetary level? Where is the money coming from? Probably some of it is from involuntary NY taxpayer contributions. Find out the names of the promoters and you will know who is most invested on bringing about carbon taxes and credits. Miranda Massie is just a hired mouthpiece for the others.
    There seems to be a real desperation among many AGW proponents to convince skeptics that AGW is real. There is potentially a lot to be gained monetarily by the government through increased “carbon” revenues and also by financial interests through carbon credit trading. All that carbon trading does is to introduce another essentially valueless inflateable and deflateable currency into the financial system. This will allow speculation and further abuses by insiders which will syphon off real wealth.

  15. This screams potential! WUWT needs to secure the rights to the gift shop, you could sell; find the missing heat board games,Michael Mann sea rise survival waders, climategate playing cards, 3d like temperature records with homogenising glasses and hockey stick pens, pendants, mugs and posters.

  16. I hope.the climate museum, keeps a low footprint by eschewing air conditioning, and eschewing any exhibits which might require electricity. Who gives a damb about fun interaction,the planet is at stake here!
    In San Diego, in our Scripts aquarium, 1/3 of the museum is dedicated to global warming. Just about every natural history and sciece museum has a climate change propaganda floor any more. Seems like this is a big waste of money.

    • I keep asking what effects global warming has had, and now I realize what they are. Exhibits, museums, myriad newspaper and net articles. To say nothing about the ‘academic’ endeavors and their fallout: trips to exotic places and not-so-exotic for meetings and conventions. Yes, global warming is the gift that keeps on giving.

  17. Good. In 30 years, after the whole “climate change” nonsense has been laughed and hooted off the world stage, it will be place the tykes can go and learn about the stupendously stupid ideas people actually believed, causing man to switch to vastly more expensive, less efficient and less reliable forms of energy for absolutely no good reason. It will be an amazing and cautionary tale.

    • How are we going to explain to future generations, why whilst pretending to be primarily interested in cutting the burning of fossil fuels, we excluded big hydro and nuclear? The two most cost effective large scale producers of low carbon baseload electricity supply.
      Oh dear. This current era is going to end up looking as daft and self-defeating as the era of Pope Innocent and the ill-fated fourth crusade.
      I’m embarrassed for my own generation of fools.
      I suspect that when the history is written, it will not look kindly upon our delusions and extravagance.
      And the various wars that we started won’t look like such a brilliant idea either.

  18. Will if New York suffers a other bitterly cold winter.
    Then am expecting that this project will be put on ice. 🙂

    • I don’t wish another horrid winter on NY, but it would be kind of poetic to have a few pics of the museum partly buried in snow drifts and ice… 🙂

  19. I think it would he appropriate for the climate change museum to be part of a larger museum that includes other notable persons / groups that failed to understand long term resiliency and adaptability including:
    .
    . Thomas Robert Malthus’ Essay on the Principle of Population
    . Paul Erlich’s Population Bomb
    . Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring
    . Al Gore former VP now profiteer on the climate movement, author of numerous climate fiction works
    . Michael Moore works cannot begin to describe
    . Hollywood actors Leonardo Decaprio, Robert Redford, Matt Damon, George Clooney, Cameron Diaz, Cate Blanchett, Brad Pitt, etc.
    . Corrupt former head of IPCC Rajendra Pachauri
    . Congressional ‘don’t bother me with details’ senate and house members specializing in purely rhetorical climate arguments including … Boxer, Waxman, Markey

    • Shouldn’t that read, Jetsetting Hollywood actors Leonardo Decaprio, Robert Redford, Matt Damon, George Clooney, Cameron Diaz, Cate Blanchett, Brad Pitt, etc.
      By the way Cate Blanchett should be referred to by her correct title of “Carbon Cate”

    • Good ideas for a skeptic “museum” of the contrary. Problem is, keeping it standing, as the green terrorists would no doubt have it torn up/burnt in no time.

    • Must include Margaret Thatcher, who pushed the idea into international politics because it was useful for her domestic policies.
      (Allegedly changed her mind after leaving office, but the damage was done.)

      • RoHa
        You’re right, but based on the science (or simulcram thereof) available in the 1980s, Mrs. T’s was a not unreasonable approach.
        She did have other things to look at.
        Had she looked at the state of – then – meteorology and climatology, with care, she may have asked more questions.
        Maybe Ronald Reagan – and the Plutonium Blonde – sought the end of he Cold War.
        Not a small legacy, ending the Cold War.
        Auto – an unashamed admirer of Mrs. T, though receptive to some of her faults. No-one is infallible, not even me!

  20. Excerpt from the Grist article:
    …”Backing her up is a heavy-hitting team of advisors and trustees, …”
    ==============
    Is there such a thing as a soft-hitting team ???
    Just cus they brought out the heavy hitters it is somehow supposed to affect my thinking ?
    Generally it just leads to the digging of a deeper trench.
    “In God we trust, all others bring data.”

  21. Don’t worry. When kids come out of the museum to see the streets covered in three feet of snow, they might have a little giggle.

  22. Anyone who under estimates the resources behind the climate change propaganda machine and thinks that true science will win the day is naive and will be surprised when the carbon restrictions are in place and electricity prices soar as promised by our President.
    This article is an example of the anti science crowd who are planning a victory over honest science.
    Ignore the plan at your own peril. Remember that restricting electricity is the first step, transportation fuels are also on the agenda next.

    • I don’t think anyone is underestimating the resources of the CAGW faithful and the effectiveness of their propaganda. The funding disparity is on clear display in almost every western government (except maybe for Australia, now). As for the propaganda aspect, all you have to do is look at any major news/entertainment venue to give you an idea of its pervasiveness.

      • You kidding? You think Oz has defunded these people? That $10bn CEFC still the rest, the Ship of Fools still have jobs and every uni is shunning Lom of Borg because it might disrupt the real $$.

  23. I’ve seen pictures of what New York will look like in a few years with water half way up the Statue of Liberty. Are these people putting their museum on stilts, or are they betting against their own propaganda?

    • They’ll should put it near the top of the World Trade Center and build a ferry terminal at the level they believe the water will rise too, once Greenland and Antarctica melt.

  24. Based on the popularity of climate change books and videos I’ll bet there will be long lines. /sarc

    • What WUWT diorama? If WUWT has a diorama in the ‘museum’ it’ll be in the section labeled ‘The Heretics’ and will include apocalyptic visions of hell and fate that awaits the evil deniers.

    • Pictures of thick- headed older people who just don’t get it (but who really DO get it,) but who are dying off and won’t be relevant for much longer.
      Ps This missive is based on recent musings from the Climate Fearosphere about this very topic.

    • Nahhh… WUWT won’t have a diorama, but we could take up a collection to sponsor a Polar Bear petting zoo. Once we pay for the Polar Bears, ongoing expenses would be minimal.

      This Way to the Polar Bears!
      Pet the Polar Bears!!
      Hug the Polar Bears!!!
      Feed the Polar Bears!!!!
      Once-in-a-lifetime Opportunity!

      After signing the release, please remove all belt buckles or other metal objects before entering.

      It’s the least we can do to enhance the Climate Change Doom and Gloom experience.

      • Yeah, Crispin, economically, it’s a no-brainer. Glad you recognized that. A little money for someone to pooper-scoop; a little money for someone to sit down once a week and send out form letters of condolences, and a little money for postage for the form letters. Admittedly, the air-conditioning expense will be a little higher than the norm for the rest of the building. But, a large part of the ongoing expenses can be offset by selling the belts, purses and electronic devices on eBay and lifting any cash out of the wallets. A modest tax-deductible charitable donation can be charged to their credit cards before the cards are returned to the next-of-kin. (Note to self: gotta train the bears not to eat the wallets.)
        /Jonathon Swift-like satire

      • “by the door…a bottle of compressed co2. ”
        Hey, a carbon sequestration demo. Great idea as long as there is plenty of ventilation…

  25. Climate Change Theater: a media stage where self-serving actors pretend to be very concerned about imaginary threats and overact accordingly. All citizens are forced to purchase admission tickets and repeatedly told that ticket prices are going up.

    • “Scotty, we need more heat to the planetary forcers!”
      “Cap’n Kirk, me engines can no’ take the strain!”
      ” Mr. Scott, can you try reversing the climate polarity?”
      ” Aaay Cap’n, that just might do it. But the polar modulators could rupture!”
      “Shunt…warp… power…through…glacial…inhibitors”
      “Captain, I JUST DON”T KNOW!”

  26. According to Wikipedia A museum (/mjuˈziːəm/; myoo-zee-um) is an institution that cares for (conserves) a collection of artifacts and other objects of artistic, cultural, historical, or scientific importance and makes them available for public viewing through exhibits that may be permanent or temporary.
    Therefore it must be the story from ice ages past, climate changes in the past and why the next move must be towards a new ice age. It will educate about the Finger Lakes, the little ice age, research on ice cores, and the evolution of failed climate projections in the past, now historical exhibit A,B,C,D,E… on the folly of holding on to faulty models.
    If not, it is not a museum.

  27. Let ’em build it. Let ’em pour their treasure into it.
    No one will visit. One more tiny lesson will be learned.
    Slowly, lesson by lesson this nonsense will burn itself out.

  28. A museum dedicated to the fact that the climate changes?
    What next, a museum dedicated to the fact that the sun rises in the morning? But then of course there is Stonehenge, but that was probably built as a religious shrine for the faithful …..oh wait a minute….

  29. Instead of “Climate Change Museum” it should be called “Climate Koolaid Repository and Bar”.

  30. Exhibit A:
    A falsified temperature record from a weather station in Australia, as tampered by the BOM
    Exhibit B:
    An animation of Gore’s projected Arctic ice disappearance and the anomaly with reality
    Exhibit C:
    A hockey stick, made from a pine tree from the Yamal peninsula, together with an explanation of how this was used like a water divining rod to falsify the climate record
    Exhibit D:
    A model of the OCO2 satellite, with an explanation as to why it seems not to have provided much data,
    Exhibit E:
    An ice core drill if the type used at Vostok Station, Antarctica, with an explanation that the CO2 record seems to lag the implied temperature record.
    Could be quite an interesting museum if they tried.

  31. Such a place will require the faithful followers of the cult to try to crystallize and make manifest their key beliefs and credos. But the world has moved on since the easy years of the climate scaremongering, and so many more people are now sharp and knowledgeable about ‘the cause’ that this museum’s exhibits will not survive their scrutiny for very long. Laughing troops of schoolchildren, having fun rebelling against their would-be indoctrinators would make a satisfactory grand finale.

    • ahhh… please, no bad puns, I beg of you. I haven’t armored myself sufficiently in a drunken stupor, yet, to withstand the travesty of bad puns.

  32. So this is being run by the New York Board of Education? Will this be public funds or privately funded?
    New York tops the charts in $$ spent per pupil, almost $20,000 per pupil per year (FY2013):
    http://www.governing.com/gov-data/education-data/state-education-spending-per-pupil-data.html
    But is ranked only 19th in the union:
    http://www.alec.org/publications/report-card-on-american-education/
    With a C for a grading on it’s performance, and only a 76% graduation rate:
    http://www.alec.org/wp-content/uploads/RC-2014-NY.pdf
    So now they’ll divert more $$ away from the students, and ask for higher taxes because the students need it (it’s for the children, you know).
    Will this endeavor be Solar Powered, setting an example for the rest of us? They could possibly claim they are green because of the Indian Point Nuclear power plant that supplies NYC, but that’ll offend some of the other ‘greenies’.
    It would be interesting to take a guided tour and challenge their ‘facts’.
    (Think Thorium)

  33. “Steeped with ambition-a word that has seen a lot of play in the climate space recently.” If they said “robust ambition”, they’d have a two-fer.

  34. “[I want to rule] You. The world. It’s only a matter of discovering the lever. If you learn how to rule one single man’s soul, you can get the rest of mankind. It’s the soul, Peter, the soul. Not whips or swords or fire or guns. That’s why the Caesars, the attilas, the Napoleons were fools and did not last. We will. The soul, Peter, is that which can’t be ruled. It must be broken. Drive a wedge in, get your fingers on it – and the man is yours. ,,,,,
    There are many ways. Here’s one. Make man feel small. Make him feel guilty. Kill his aspiration and his integrity. That’s difficult. The worst among you gropes for an idol in his own twisted way. Kill integrity by internal corruption. Use it against himself. Direct it towards a goal destructive of all integrity. ….
    Here’s another. Kill man’s sense of values. Kill his capacity to recognise greatness or to achieve it. Great men can’t be ruled. We don’t want any great men. Don’t deny conception of greatness. Destroy it from within. The great is the rare, the difficult, the exceptional. Set up standards of achievement open to all, to the least, to the most inept – and you stop the impetus to effort in men, great or small. You stop all incentive to improvement, to excellence, to perfection. Laugh at Roark and hold Peter Keating as a great architect. You’ve destroyed architecture. Build Lois Cook and you’ve destroyed literature. Hail Ike and you’ve destroyed the theatre. Glorify Lancelot Clankey and you’ve destroyed the press. Don’t set out to raze all shrines – you’ll frighten men, Enshrine mediocrity – and the shrines are razed.” — Elsworth Toohey (The Fountainhead – Chap. 14)
    http://www.e-reading.club/chapter.php/133360/58/Rand_-_The_Fountainhead.html

  35. No doubt brought to you by the fine people at Ripley’s…Believe it or Not!
    They’re really going to build it at Niagara Falls, then they’ll really have us over a barrel. 😉

  36. The American Museum of Natural History in New York has the scam covered. One of the two curators in none other than Michael Oppenheimer.

  37. The only way this will last is if they have at least 3 movie theaters. (I mean, for displays, if you’ve seen one broken hockey stick you’ve seen them all.)
    One theater will show “The Day After Tomorrow” back to back.
    The second will show “2012” back to back.
    The third will show “Shakenado” back to back.
    I suspect “Sharknado” will be the most popular attraction.

    • PS I looked at Weather Underground’s record high temp for where I live today. They say it was 90 F set in 2007. The NWS list I have for 2002 and another for 2013 say it was 95 set in 1944. (TWC owns WU now.)
      Will the museum have a special section for climate “changes”?

  38. Um….. haven’t all the polls shown that the public has NO interest in climate change whatsoever?
    So I suspect that the museum won’t get many visitors at all….

  39. It will be a wonderful outing of awful scary things for the kiddies. I am sure that they are applying already for funding from Hollywood, the United Nations and the Vatican.

  40. It reminds me of the Millenium Experience fiasco in the UK- so ‘worthy’ and politicised that hardly anybody went to see it.

  41. It must be fun to create for yourself a new enterprise and declare yourself the director, complete with a heavy-hitting team of advisors and trustees. Oh what fun.

  42. “We need to have really strong, emotionally resonant narratives”… Says it all, really. It’s all about hooking people emotionally, which is all the entire “climate change” narrative is about – emotions, and using them to sway people who are weak-minded and naieve.

    • Bruce….”“We need to have really strong, emotionally resonant narratives”… Says it all, really. It’s all about hooking people emotionally, which is all the entire “climate change” narrative is about – emotions, and using them to sway people who are weak-minded and naive.” I that that was tried by some guy starting in 1932-33. Didn’t work out too well.

  43. It will be a monument for all ages to study the propaganda and epic gullibility and scientific illiteracy of the political left. I wonder if it will cover the coming ice age and the 10 year supply of oil promoted in the 1970s.

  44. The ambitions with climate scam promotion practically has died in Sweden, simply due to radical feminists has manage to hijack both media and politics … (the politicians in the government are far more incompetent then anyone could imagine before the national election last year – a new almost unbeatable record is set …) It’s within gender politics and asylum project for paperless welfare tourists where money are found here today and it is really pouring on that type of ‘projects’. These ‘projects’ even gets funds both easier and faster then climate bogus projects ever did … The situation has gone from bad to worse, as anyone who disagree or are politically incorrect are bombed with invectives, classified as racists or anything simular depending on the situation.
    The latest fuzz is all about racist styled band aid (plain white and beige coloured)
    I suppose some of you have already have heard about it by now …

  45. For many, climate change is not yet personal, but Miranda Massie is trying to change that. Massie is the executive director of the forthcoming Climate Museum in New York City, a project that seeks to make the impacts of and solutions to a changing climate intimate and tangible.

    Bingo!!! I’ve been arguing that our side needs to make Climate Change personal. The political Left are experts at propaganda, we need to copy some of their tactics only with truth.
    The Alarming Cost Of Climate Change Hysteria

    The Small Business Administration estimates that compliance with such regulations costs the U.S. economy more than $1.75 trillion per year — about 12%-14% of GDP, and half of the $3.456 trillion Washington is currently spending. The Competitive Enterprise Institute believes the annual cost is closer to $1.8 trillion when an estimated $55.4 billion regulatory administration and policing budget is included. CEI further observes that those regulation costs exceed 2008 corporate pretax profits of $1.436 trillion

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/08/23/the-alarming-cost-of-climate-change-hysteria/
    $1.75 trillion can build 175,000 $10 Million Dollar Schools, 175,000 $10 Million Dollar Hospitals, 175,000 $10 Million Dollar Bridges, 250 KeyStone Pipelines, 300 Blockbuster Drugs, 50% of the 2015 Federal Budget, etc etc etc. What did we get for such astronomical spending? Higher energy prices and some well paid frauds.

    • Citing budgetary costs is not emotionally engaging. If you start talking about the deleterious effects on the future children and grandchildren, you might get somewhere.

  46. Call me the devil’s advocate but I absolutely love this idea. But, it must be truly authentic. I suggest in one room the indoctrinees…er, guests, climb a ladder onto a rooftop on a hot, sunny, humid, summer day and bask in the veil of heat so they can experience true climate without AC. In another room our future indentured servants can experience January temperatures in NYC whilst waiting at a bus stop for an imaginary bus that may or may not be there in 45 minutes. For a true January experience the temperatures should be well below zero with a bit of wind. Aw, what the heck, let’s go full bore and make it a gale. And, of course, the bus never really does get there because it’s spinning its wheels (as we’re all gonna’ be) in a snowdrift. Finally, to round out the overall climate museum experience our now surly, and stinky, roof explorer and/or our rattling, frost bitten bus stop waiter get to peer through a window at the protected, artificially fossil fuel controlled climate experiencing Steyers, DiCaprios, and/or Obamas stuff their guts (especially Michelle) with some Steak Tartare, Oysters Rockefeller, and Filet Mignons.
    Anything less should be considered a false and deceitful climate change museum experience and therefore subject to lawsuit under truth in advertising statutes.

  47. Good, the museum will be there for future generations to see and marvel at how they got it so wrong.
    Anthony should consider donating some of his “climate fails” so they can be part of the record.

  48. I think the museum is a great idea. When the mass delusion finally ends the museum can be converted to a museum dedicated to mass delusions of the past. All the people that participated in the delusion should be named and those who tried to stop it should be honored. As the Who sang “So we don’t get fooled again”.

  49. This just in. The Old Farmer’s Almanac is predicting another cold and snow filled winter for much of the continental US.

  50. Isn’t that on the old site of the Lysenko Urban Farm, across the street from the Breatharian Cafe?

  51. Climate change is actually very interesting due to the scientific issues, the impact on scientific theory, and the issues that have developed due to 30 years of climate wars, and lastly due to what is about to happen to the earth’s climate.
    A problem for a climate change museum, is the cause, the forcing function for climate ‘change’ is not known to the general scientific community. It is a fact that the majority of the warming in the last 150 years was due to solar cycle change not the rise in atmospheric CO2.
    As it is a physical fact that hot air rises and hot air rising causes cold air to fall, convection cooling must increase and does increase if greenhouse gases are added to the atmosphere. The so called no feedback 1-D calculation to estimate the amount of warming due to a doubling of atmospheric CO2 froze the lapse rate, assumed there is zero increase in convection cooling in response to the increase in greenhouse gas which is ridiculous, physically impossible. In addition to ignoring convection cooling the same calculation ignored the overlap of the absorption of water and CO2 which is also ridiculous, goofy (as 70% of the earth’s surface is covered with water which explains why there is a great deal of water vapor in the lower atmosphere particularly in tropical region). Both incorrect assumptions are required to create the possibility of CAGW warming. Correcting the calculation for either increased convection or the overlap of water vapor and CO2 reduces the warming for a doubling of atmospheric CO2 without feedbacks from 1.2 C to 0.1C to 0.2C. 0.1 to 0.2C is so small the no feedback warming is ball park the same as with feedbacks warming.

    It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.
    Mark Twain

    http://www.climate4you.com/images/VostokTemp0-420000%20BP.gif
    This not a theoretical issue, an issue which is removed from everyday life. We are going to have a front row seat to watch how an abrupt change to the solar cycle causes a Heinrich event.
    Most people know the planet’s temperature changes cyclically. Few people know that the reason why the planet changes temperature cyclically (the physical reason for the glacial/interglacial cycle) is not known to the general scientific community and few people now the planet’s temperature changes abruptly, rather than gradually.
    Almost 20 years ago it was discovered that the planet’s temperature change abruptly, based on an analysis of the Greenland Ice Sheet core. The paleo climatologists did not believe it was possible for the planet to change temperature as abruptly as the Greenland Ice core data indicated, so a second Greenland Ice core was drilled which confirmed the results of GSIP1 that the planetary temperature abrupt changes. Many people are aware that the planet’s temperature changes have a periodicity of 400 years and 1500 years and roughly every 10,000 years the planet experiences a super large abrupt climate forcing change.
    William,
    The assertion that summer insolation changes at 65N due to the earth’s orbital changes, which is referred to as Milankovitch’s theory, somehow causes the glacial/interglacial cycle and somehow causes cyclic abrupt climate change, is an urban legend. There are piles and piles of urban legends concerning what cause cyclic abrupt climate change. The solution to what causes cyclic abrupt climate change is that the sun is fundamentally different than the standard model. There are piles and piles of astronomical paradoxes and anomalies (which are all found in peer reviewed papers, the number of anomalies and paradoxes is increasing not decreasing, and some of which have been known more than 30 years) that support that assertion.
    Currently summer insolation at 65N is the same as the coldest part of the last interglacial. That is a bad thing rather than a good thing as the orbit position when there is an abrupt change to solar cycle determines the magnitude of the abrupt change of the sun on the planet’s climate. The silver lining is it appears the physics behind what is happening to the sun will solve the energy problem and will lead to interstellar travel. Good thing rather than a bad thing.
    There are at least 12 different observations and analysis results that support the assertion that insolation changes at 65N are physically not capable of causing the temperature changes observed in the paleo record and did not cause what is observed. The following is a sample of the paradoxes which disproof the theory.

    1) 100,000 year problem
    The 100,000-year problem is that the eccentricity variations have a significantly smaller impact on solar forcing than precession or obliquity – according to theory- and hence might be expected to produce the weakest effects. However, the greatest observed response in regard to the ice ages is at the 100,000-year timescale, even though the theoretical forcing is smaller at this scale.[10] During the last 1 million years, the strongest climate signal is the 100,000-year cycle. In addition, despite the relatively great 100,000-year cycle, some have argued that the length of the climate record is insufficient to establish a statistically significant relationship between climate and eccentricity variations.

    http://www.news.wisc.edu/9557

    2) Southern Hemisphere cools cyclically at the same time as the Northern Hemisphere
    Glacial records depict ice age climate in synch worldwide
    “During the last two times in Earth’s history when glaciation occurred in North America, the Andes also had major glacial periods,” says Kaplan.
    The results address a major debate in the scientific community, according to Singer and Kaplan, because they seem to undermine a widely held idea that global redistribution of heat through the oceans is the primary mechanism that drove major climate shifts of the past.
    “Because the Earth is oriented in space in such a way that the hemispheres are out of phase in terms of the amount of solar radiation they receive, it is surprising to find that the climate in the Southern Hemisphere cooled off repeatedly during a period when it received its largest dose of solar radiation,” says Singer. “Moreover, this rapid synchronization of atmospheric temperature between the polar hemispheres appears to have occurred during both of the last major ice ages that gripped the Earth.”

    3) Stage 5 problem (Causality Problem)
    The stage 5 problem refers to the timing of the penultimate interglacial (in marine isotopic stage 5) that appears to have begun ten thousand years in advance of the solar forcing hypothesized to have caused it (also known as the causality problem)(putative effect precedes cause).

    4) Effect exceeds cause
    The effects of these variations are primarily believed to be due to variations in the intensity of solar radiation upon various parts of the globe. Observations show climate behavior is much more intense than the calculated variations.

    5) The unsplit peak problem
    The unsplit peak problem refers to the fact that eccentricity has cleanly resolved variations at both the 95 and 125 ka periods. A sufficiently long, well-dated record of climate change should be able to resolve both frequencies.[15] However, some researchers[who?] interpret climate records of the last million years as showing only a single spectral peak at 100 ka periodicity.

    6) The transition problem
    The transition problem refers to the switch in the frequency of climate variations 1 million years ago. From 1–3 million years, climate had a dominant mode matching the 41 ka cycle in obliquity. After 1 million years ago, this switched to a 100 ka variation matching eccentricity, for which no reason has been established

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles#/media/File:Five_Myr_Climate_Change.svg

    7) Identifying dominant factor
    Milankovitch believed that decreased summer insolation in northern high latitudes was the dominant factor leading to glaciation, which led him to (incorrectly) deduce an approximate 41 ka period for ice ages.[16] Subsequent research[17][18][19] has shown that ice age cycles of the Quaternary glaciation over the last million years have been at a 100,000-year period, leading to identification of the 100 ka eccentricity cycle as more important, although the exact mechanism remains obscure
    The Earth’s orbit is an ellipse. The eccentricity is a measure of the departure of this ellipse from circularity. The shape of the Earth’s orbit varies in time between nearly circular (low eccentricity of 0.000055) and mildly elliptical (high eccentricity of 0.0679)[3] with the mean eccentricity of 0.0019 as geometric or logarithmic mean and 0.034 as arithmetic mean, the latter useless. The major component of these variations occurs on a period of 413,000 years (eccentricity variation of ±0.012). A number of other terms vary between components 95,000 and 125,000 years (with a beat period 400,000 years), and loosely combine into a 100,000-year cycle (variation of −0.03 to +0.02). The present eccentricity is 0.017 and decreasing.

  52. Doorway of this new Museum dedicated to Global Warming will be a good place for the Homeless to shelter when the New York winter temperatures hit minus 20.

  53. EPA Chief Admits Obama Regs Have No Measurable Climate Impact: ‘One one-hundredth of a degree?’ EPA Chief McCarthy defends regs as ‘enormously beneficial’ – Symbolic impact

    Read more: http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/07/15/epa-chief-admits-obama-regs-have-no-measurable-climate-impact-one-one-hundredth-of-a-degree-epa-chief-mccarthy-defends-regs-as-enormously-beneficial-symbolic-impact/#ixzz3iw6qQibC
    Climate Change Government Spending and Regulations are estimated to be $1.75 trillion/yr.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/08/23/the-alarming-cost-of-climate-change-hysteria/
    $1.75 Trillion for a “Symbolic” effort? The IPCC talks of limiting warmth to 2°C. Just how much are we willing to forgo for this fantasy?
    1) bankrupting our children
    2) reduced disposable income
    3) higher tuition
    4) fewer jobs
    5) slower growth and slower progress on everything
    6) no measurable income on climate for what we spend
    7) much less freedom
    8) higher inflation
    Bottom line, we need to have a way to communicate the costs and lack of benefits of Climate Change Regulations. WUWT should commission a series of 30 second commercial scripts and send them to the Koch Brothers. Encourage them to fund a cost of climate change section of the Smithsonian and nationwide commercial campaign. Is climate change spending spending worth the costs? What are the benefits? How certain are we?

  54. What a wonderful way for those eco-crazy billionaires to spend their money. Though it is so sad that those buffoons wouldn’t even notice they spent it.
    Of all the various dinosaurs the green movement demands, desires, or wants built, wind farms generator burners, solar cell bird fryers, tidal generators fish choppers, news media disinformation centers… I’d much rather they built magnificent museum edifices that one day may be turned into genuine scientific centers. In spite of their initial sad use.
    Still, those geniuses better make sure all the information is put on led screens so they can change the predictions and claims to match the latest science. Every other day or so…

  55. Someone should rent a properly on the same street and make a Climate Realist Museum complete with all the old newspaper clippings of the coming Ice Age.

  56. In Shanghai there is a small but wonderful museum dedicated to Chinese communist propaganda art. It sells copies of posters etc. online around the world. I feel sure that in another decade or two this climate museum will find its niche market just like the Shanghai one has.

  57. The ghost train or some theme park wild ride has more claim to be a museum piece than this sort of fabricated, fraudulent schlok.

  58. I can see a reverse hockey stick happening. Attendance will peak early on then trail off as fear mongering boredom and fatigue set in and visitors return to the excitement and true educational interest of traditional museums.. I would give this Climate Mausoleum, sorry Museum, two years life at the most..

  59. Here’s some similar misleading AGW-in-museum from Sydney Australia. I was at the Powerhouse Museum yesterday, and took these pics. http://everist.org/pics/ph_agw/agw.htm
    The entire quite extensive and apparently permanent exhibit was like that. I could have taken more pics, but it was too annoying.
    At least I didn’t see the phrase “hottest year ever”. Might have if I’d looked for it.

  60. It’s child abuse.
    Greedy, selfish, parents are exploiters of innocence.
    The parents sadly are the Obama machine’s delirious craving for dictatorship.

  61. It would be typical of the entire scam, if it were 5c to get in and 50 dollars to get out

  62. I suppose going to a museum of this sort is like those who think that going to a presidential legacy museum is the way to spend a day.
    “Hey, kids let’s learn nothing, but, what they want us to know!”

  63. Next will be a Climate Change theme park. Among the attractions could be “Coal Trains of Death” (actually powered by coal, and belching soot and cinders) leading to houses of horror with temps cranked up to 100F, deserts, fires, and emaciated people. Then you’d have the “Trains of the Future”, run on “clean” energy (with plenty of backup power though). The possibilities are endless.

  64. They could also have the entrance to the museum shaped like a hockey stick. Wouldn’t it be more at home in a Disney theme park? People might be put off visiting it in the snowy New York winters.

  65. I think that this is an opportunity lost. One could imagine a wonderful museum – the Museum of Climate -(not Climate change ) which would relate the history of climate science , technology and polar and ocean exploration from Ancient China and Egypt to modern space based techniques .
    Just imagine it from the viewpoint of a child: Firstly the astronomical observations in China , Mesopotamia , Egypt and the attempts to understand weather and climate so important for agricultural societies .
    Then the inventions of barometers , Torricelli and the science Renaissance , the first thermometers and how accurate they were . The establishment of continuous temperature records in England and elsewhere in Europe .
    Then the great era of ocean exploration , discovery of wind systems and ocean currents.
    The polar explorers and their trials and achievements , the realisation of Ice ages with Agassiz and all the others and the effects these had on communities worldwide.
    Finally the modern age with isotope analysis , satellite measurements , not forgetting of course the contentious subject of tree ring analysis . Then the subject of AGW and the role of CO2 could be introduced , but subjectively .
    It could be one of the most exciting science museums in the world and really be for the enlightenment of the many, especially the young , whereas the proposed facility seems to be intended purely to justify the enrichment of the few.

    • Sorry , a mistake in the penultimate paragraph : I meant to say that the the role of CO2 to be introduced “NOT subjectively “, ie the final gallery could be laid out with the arguements for and against the role of CO2 and the existence of AGW and maybe the school children asked to judge the most convincing presentation .

  66. Well, at least future generations will be able to visit this museum and enjoy the comdey presented there. It will be renamed Museum of Comedic Ideas.

  67. Progressivism at its best. We are allowing these people to run our Nation, control the IPCC and determine how 12% of our GDP will be spent. Bottom line, as long as we elect people that focus on these kinds of issues we will be electing people that will waste 12% of our GDP…and never solve any of our real problems. This is why we have a president whose party blocks Nuclear Power here in the US and helps build it in Iran. This is why we have a president that blocks oil production here and promotes Iran’s oil production. That is why we have a president that ignores the poor of the inner cities and bathes progressive climate researchers in money. And these sanctimonious nitwits mock people with religious beliefs. Such deep and enlightened “thinkers.”

    Danes and Swedes are fighting about whether “flesh-colored” band-aids are racist

    http://qz.com/479960/danes-and-swedes-are-fighting-about-whether-flesh-colored-band-aids-are-racist/

  68. During one of my trips to London, I had the pleasure of visiting the British Science Museum where, unfortunately, there was a huge new special exhibit on Climate Change….
    The Climate Change exhibit was completely deserted, though millions of GBPs were obviously spent on the exhibit…
    It was utterly depressing contrasting the incredible scientific ingenuity and genius displayed in other exhibits of the Science Museum to the deceit and disingeniousness of the Climate Change pavilion…

    • Such a display shouldn’t have even been in the Science Museum. It could have been displayed at the circus or where criminals are incarcerated–those would have been much more appropriate venues.

  69. The Core standards of education under the Obama administration includes Next Generation Science Standards which of course include teaching the consensus storyline on climate change. Around half of the states have adopted it (Walker in Wisconsin passed legislation disallowing it). This is characteristic of t he tactics used by the administration to “nudge” – brainwash the country … through education policy on what is taught in schools. It is no different at all from Nazi propaganda minister, Herr Joseph Goebbels and German Communist Willi Münzenberg who worked with Soviet spies, perfecting the art of covert mind control via propaganda to create right-thinking people to serve the state power on the basis of what appears on the surface to be but is falsely presented as the most essential elements of human decency.’

  70. “Climate Museum in New York City, a project that seeks to make the impacts of and solutions to a changing climate intimate and tangible.”
    Museum seeks to make climate change tangible, that pretty much sums up everything you need to know.

  71. “While most plans are preliminary, one of Massie’s hopes is for an initial pop-up installation on Governors Island next summer.”
    Open in the summer and set the thermostat to 85 F inside. “Pop up installations” sounds like they want the construction to go up quickly in the spring and summer, so they don’t have a long construction period, and have to suffer the indignation of having a “Coming Soon: Global Warming Museum” sign up through winter with people stumbling through snow banks and scoffing at their sign, generating months of skeptical backlash before they even open.

  72. Oh great, another irrelevant, expensive “amenity”….forget the roads and other infrastructure. *Rolls eyes*

  73. In 2009 my wife and I had a wonderful trip with our caravan around the western half of Australia. While in traveling through Western Australia, I attended Scitech, the science museum in Perth.
    It was school holiday time in WA and the museum had hundreds of school aged kids participating in a variety of activities.
    One exhibit, however, was nothing more than global warming propaganda. It had lots of faked pictures of climate disasters including Perth drowning due to sea level rise.
    My personal favourite was a supposed future news broadcast showing executives of coal companies being tried for crime against humanity.
    My disgust was mitigated, however, when I noticed not one kid paid even the slightest notice to the exhibit. I had the entire place completely to myself.
    It gave me renewed hope in our future and reminded me of the innate common sense of most people, particularly young people.

  74. There should be an exhibit that includes a satellite (Nasa may be able to provide a model for display purposes) stevenson screen, radiosondes, thermometer, and argo buoys together with a sample of their outputs so that future generations can see how impirical data is gathered.

  75. Not sure if it’s still there but the Edinburgh science museum used to have an advert for windturbines (and associated global warming propaganda) attached to a vintage steam loco exhibit.

  76. New York like other great cities has become bubbles of isolated political and ethnic/social demographic areas. It is passed off as the most diverse city on the face on the planet. In reality Manhattan has changed. It’s all about their own politics of those who mostly live there. They are ahead of the curve yet they are the only ones who see things this way for the most part. The art scene is not the same. Almost everybody that lives there has just moved there in the last 4 years. They are moving to Brooklyn now but the immigrant and working class communities realize the absurdness of these people. The real New York is on the outer boroughs now. Thank good for immigrants. I have been to Ripley’s Believe it or Not. i don’t need to go to new York for that.

  77. I will have to add that to the bucket list of museums I should visit before I die, right after Italy’s Museo della Merda in Castelbosco.

  78. Unless this has been in the works for a while it could take them 2 years to get permits to build. NYC and the surrounding areas are a bureaucratic nightmare and more about who you know and who you pay off. NYC also only allows union workers and they’re only allowed to do so much per day. I’m interested in seeing if they can pull this off in 2 years but uninterested in seeing the exhibition.

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