Our favorite climate publicity hound, fake Nobel Laureate Dr. Michael E. Mann is going to get some real time on ‘RealTime’, where presumably, he’ll wail about the embellished injustices heaped upon him by people that question his hockey stick, his interpretation of science, and his sanity on Twitter. Bill Maher has been known to throw some curve balls, so this might be entertaining, or maybe not. Given what I witnessed at Mann’s lecture in Bristol last year, he’s pretty much a one-trick pony with nothing new to say.
Well that was a thing that happened. More on the #GOPDebate from @BillMaher and his guests tomorrow at 10pm! @HBO pic.twitter.com/AYiSeQhA8B
— Real Time with Bill Maher (@RealTimers) August 7, 2015
Note the “submit a question” tag on Twitter: #RTOVERTIME I wonder if Maher will dare to ask about Mann’s Nobel Laureate claims?
h/t to WUWT reader “canman”
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It’s Mann in a rug and specs disguise.
And a toupee of inferior quality.
Mr. Appell, step away from the donuts.
and C2H5OH
“C2H5OH”
So that glint of intelligence someone once said they saw was really just a glassy-eyed hangover stare?
My disillusionment grows by leaps.
I did not realize he was such a handsome devil.
OMG he’s such a stud!
Sorry, I am not very clear on this. What does it matter if Mann’s hockey stick has been replicated and confirmed? Maybe there was no global Roman or bronze age warming, maybe the LIA was a local event, but the warming is not happening today as predicted. The longer the pause continues, the less likely the hockey stick.
If your theory does not agree with measurement then your theory is wrong. In time the hockey stick must either be discarded, proven true or we all agree to use the new-science, based on consensus rather than experiment.
Oh, it matters, and the MWP was real and quite global.
Here is a good example of the extent of Appell’s intellectual depth and honesty. He does not know the difference bewteen deg C and F, and refuses to admit his error.
Be sure to read the comments.
He is a dishonest lightweight.
http://davidappell.blogspot.com/2011/01/steve-goddards-big-error.html
Sorry, I refuse to give him any web count. !
Ditto.
He’s also a guy that literally takes selfies with his cat. (That’ll save you a trip to his BlogSpot, Andy, and I apologize for the visual imagery)
I’m also surprised that Dahlquist’s obscene comments have survived moderation. Never seen that kind of stuff survive here. Does not make any converts to the common sense usually supplied on WattsUp.
Agreed, Pete. But DQ at 1:27 promised to reform, and I don’t see that he’s fallen off the wagon yet. Still, it would be fool to clean up the record….
good! I’m going back to bed before I start using intemperate language myself.
I agree that ad hominems have no place in science and detract from the overall arguments.
Pete,
The poor moderators had to do overtime to clean up the mess… Hard to keep up with all the comments. Seems mostly done by now and Dahlquist promised to calm down…
I don’t have the time today to read all the comments as I have to trot off to school and do a little work, but I will read all when I get back I hope.
In the mean time, would someone please tell me if they have ever seen David Appell and Mike Mann in the same room at the same time? Seems like Mr. Appell is going to great lengths to defend a totally debunked “scientist”. ( see a retired statistician named Steve McIntyre for more details)
I wonder if he realise the damage he does to the alarmista cause whenever he goes on a rant ?
Having everybody laughing at him is not a good way to promote his religion . 🙂
His handlers/carers should have a good talk to him once his meds have stabilised his mental condition .
I want David to identify all those tree-rings, showing warming temperatures in recent decades in the NH.
Then we can know whether or not “tree-mometers” make valid temperature records, regardless of CO2 levels.
Good question Orson – come on David – surely there is some ‘other’ tree ring data stream of multiple tree ring readings that supports Michael Manns hockey stick, seeing multiple tree ring data sources from around the world to support a world wide point of view from MM would be very interesting
The people here have allowed a troll to dominate the thread with 4th grade playground banter – a big time waster for all. Ignoring the troll would have been much more helpful.
True, but not that funny.
The comment stream doesn’t seem all that funny. In fact, it’s a pretty lousy way to start off Friday.
Come on, have a cup of vinegar for a start. Some people are different….
True but I for one had a bit of time to waste………!
DA will soon be relocating to:
Trollshavn
Trollshavn is an inlet in Hordaland, Norway, nearby to Einhaugen and Trældalen. Trollshavn is close to Herland and Osterøybrua.
http://mapcarta.com/31542260
Indeed, nice place midst of the Lofoten where the last trolls are living. Have been there with my family many years ago with a trip from Svolvær. They didn’t keep us there…
Sorry, that is the Trollfjord where I was speaking of, Trollshavn is a different place…
No problem, more places in Norway where we can send trolls to live in peace with their neighborhood…
Iceland, too, is renowned for its Troll Population. And there are Skeptics, which are called Elves…**GG**
Neckbeard net nuisances SHOULD be sent to Trollshavn! (Oh wait, ‘shavn’ probably means ‘haven’, not ‘shaving’)
I take it that David Appell had his medication some time after 2:07 am or did his mummy send him to bed.
Appell posted an article at his blog at 11:31pm PDT demanding a published correction from WUWT over a guest author post from 3 years ago:
http://davidappell.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-department-of-oops-case-number-1.html
Minutes later he’s over here, trolling.
Heh. You live in his head rent free, Anthony.
I would hope that Appell would correct his own errors first. Like not knowing the difference between deg C and deg F, and not knowing the difference between daily high and low temps.
You have to realise that Appell is a sort of low-end journalist, trying to make a living writing climate farce in a back-water newspaper of some sort. He has very little scientific or mathematical understanding, as is obvious for all to see.
He is desperately trying to find some relevance to his baseless existence… and hasn’t yet realised that what he does here is even more worthless and demeaning to him than his day job.
Always entertaining to see people defending the idea that there was no MWP or LIA as a worldwide event. They ask themselves why the very extensive written records are never consulted. Maybe they just don’t want to believe what they say. 😉
The hockey stick was down to a cherry pick, added to previous data that showed a decline during the very same period.
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/briffa_single_tree_yad061.png?w=640
One tree showed significant warming, the rest in the region didn’t. Anybody can verify one reading, but nobody with any science knowledge should even think that it represents the entire Northern hemisphere without very good evidence. To make matters even worse, other trees in the region didn’t even support the cherry pick.
Erm, except the Yamal reconstruction was published several years AFTER the Hockey Stick papers.
Dr Mann is many things, including a recipient of the Hans Oeschger Medal.
A time traveller, not so much.
Maher is a true leftist he will only [throw] softballs.
Speaking of funnys….
Here’s a good one for you..
Weakened Solar activity could speed up Greenland ice melt !
http://www.space.com/30050-weakened-solar-activity-speed-greenland-ice-melt.html
Make of it what you will
easy , by the ‘magic’ of CO2 solar flairs have been weakened
Bill Maher is praise narcissist for the yound college age and naive and the European mainstream. He baits his snares with comments in enviro/scientific and gender/racial issues he has no experience or real knowledge of whatsoever and of course the ever original patting Europe on it’s back for its progressiveness while bashing his own countrymen ad hominem. He lives in ultimate bubble of cushy delusion and political correctness yet claims to be the exact opposite. He is painfully politically correct. Quite possibly the most irresponsible and sloppy political commentator of our current times imo. Naturally his chosen guest will fit right into his narrative and level of honesty. Everybody get their vomit bags ready if they plan to watch.
And it could be pointed out by some that his stance on Islamism isn’t much different than Mark Steyn’s. (Please see above re: Steyn’s supposed “Islamaphobia”.
Should have know Appell (or someone like him) would show up to defend the indefensible (Mann and the Hockey stick)
Has he gone home now ? Havent had so much fun since the ship of fools.
Why dont more of those alarmist types come here for a whipping?
I think you’ll find the the term you are looking for is “One tree pony”.
SEARCH
O/T Looks like Trenberth is still vaguely claiming that he is a Nobel Laureate ” shared the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize which went to the IPCC.” http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/staff/trenbert/ – also on wayback machine at http://web.archive.org/web/20150718234852/http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/staff/trenbert/
To be fair Trenberth claims a number of things which are not true such has there is ‘missing heat ‘ and he practices science, so its normal for him.
Yep. But it isn’t that blunt stunt that the abominable trickster Mann delivered. And, afaik, he didn’t vapour in court with it. The Nobel Committee, too, remained unmolested as well with that bout of vanity.
+1
10/10. My eyes are burning.
As to M.E. Mann
Still up on Amazon “Dr. Mann … … has received a number of honors and awards including NOAA’s outstanding publication award in 2002 and selection by Scientific American as one of the fifty leading visionaries in science and technology in 2002. He shared the Nobel Peace Prize with other IPCC authors in 2007.” http://www.amazon.co.uk/Michael-E.-Mann/e/B001KP3VIW
That Mann is like a contagious mould, porky everywhere repeated willingly by the MSM.
Amazon needs putting right. That is clearly disinformation.
The issue is not Amazon, they can’t check or adjudicate the credentials every author might put on their site.
The issue is as it always has been that Mann is a dishonest little twerp with illusions of grandeur.
Someday, Mann will get to do real time. Upstate.
On the local front Appell is regularly spewing his activist’s version of science.
Appell has no learning curve. By choice.
http://www.oregonlive.com/weather/index.ssf/2015/07/el_nino_and_the_blob_shown_in.html#lf_comment=350405714
David Appell
@Chuck Wiese – No, more CO2 is only a tiny feedback to warming caused by water vapor.
CO2 warming increases the saturation vapor pressure of water vapor. (See the Clausius Claperyon equation.)
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Chuck Wiese
@David Appell : You are incompetent in basic atmospheric science. Would this be so with respect to the oceans, Appell?
If CO2 warming causes the saturation vapor pressure of the atmosphere to increase, then why does the thermodynamics of vaporization require that to step the wet bulb temperature up one degree C or 80 degF to 81.8 degF requires an ambient air temperature of 2.62 times the step in wet bulb temperature to re-saturate it? And this is not linear by the Clausius/ Clypeyron equation. As the wet bulb temperature increases, the ambient ratio continues to increase as more heat becomes necessary to evaporate water from the surface.
Since the ambient air tracks with the ocean surface temperatures, where is the heat energy coming from to increase the saturation vapor pressure of the air? It is being used up as the latent heat of vaporization, Appell and can do no such thing to the atmosphere above the oceans. And when the latent heat is released back to the troposphere in the hydrological cycle, clouds are formed which blocks incoming shortwave. A negative feed back.
Chuck Wiese
Meteorologist