Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Back in 2009, Obama said that his energy plan will cause energy bills to skyrocket.
In 2015, Obama says his energy plan will save you money (from 14:45)
The following is a condensed version of the relevant parts of the speeches (note the full 2015 speech contains additional material of interest, such as Obama’s comments about the impact of his new plan on poor people);
What has changed since 2009, other than a cap and trade system being replaced with straight out energy regulation? The new plan seems to call for the same expensive power plant changes, which Obama said would cause energy bills to skyrocket, when he spoke back in 2009.
What do you think? Are you reassured by President Obama’s statement, that you will save money on your energy bills, under President Obama’s 2015 clean energy plan?
What will save me money is to never have to pay electricity bills in the USA (or Germany, or Denmark) and stay away from countries obsessed with the (taxable) myth of CAGW
If you’re a billionaire Obama supporter or a rent-seeking multinational corporation, his energy plan will make you money.
Everybody else pays through the nose.
This is redistribution of wealth from the middle-class and the working class to the mega-rich progressive investor class. As for the poor, they will find everything more expensive and will need more assistance just to stay where they are. Want to get ahead? Good luck, because the more you make the more you will pay.
If Obama Energy does for energy what Obamacare did for healthcare I’ll be in the poorhouse in no time.
Costs will skyrocket.
I think Willis answered your question two days ago …costs go up 3.3 x……
And if you like your old electricity bill , you can keep it ….(8>(( … I wish…
I’m glad that my daughters are smart and going for high paying engineering jobs. They’re going to need every penny with the democrats and liberals in control.
Will Obama’s energy plan save you money?
What a ridiculous question. What has our narcissist in chief ever done that has saved money for anyone?
Supply, meet demand.
I bought a $7,500.00 EPA-approved wood stove last year. THAT will save me money.
Ultimately. No thanks to the Tiresome One.
Obama and the EPA are crooks, they are pathological liars. The day this man was born placed a curse on America and the World. He is a living,breathing cluster F bomb to the economy and all the good things American!.
Obama is a politician. Politicians lie—- that’s how they get us to elect them in the first place. So—do I expect Obama’s plan will save me money? In a pig’s eye.
At about 16:30, is he really drawing a connection between asthma and climate change?
You would think that claim is self-evidently preposterous. If renewables were cheaper than coal they’re certainly not cheaper than building nothing and simply using existing, adequate plant. The last thing any developed country needs is more electricity supply.
But the people have been lied to SO much I suspect “47%” will actually hear this and think “Obama is making my power cheaper AND saving the planet” – I’m predicting it polls well. In Oz, an uncosted ecoloon wishlist seems to be and the meeja is howling down any attempts to “scare” people about costs of $100bn for something we don’t need.
Of course. The more you spend, the less you’ll lose once hyperinflation kicks in.
Essentially everything he says is a lie. “Like your doctor, keep your doctor”, for example
CO2 has risen 10 percent in the last two decades and temperature has not budged a bit (satellite data).
QED. Hypothesis of man-made global warming is falsified.
Tell your representatives to stop listening to this sh*t, stop accepting the premise of stupid “climate-deniers” questions, and stop accommodating ANYTHING this administration proposes. Tell the media to “Sit on it and spin”, as Ted Cruz recently did [a bit more eloquently]
Go on offense! Challenge everything they say and every scheme they hatch. Demand facts. Conduct investigations across the board. Issue subpoenas. Send Federal Marshals to confiscate records, computer files, hard drives, the works. Indict those who have fraudulently used federal grants, those who have suborned perjury, those who have conspired to avoid FOIA information requests, those who have given false testimony to Congressional committees, etc., etc.
Deal with this corrupt regime as it actually exists. Kick some butt.
The fate of our Republic is at stake.
So no, the Obama energy plan will not save you money, nor make electricity more plentiful or reliable. What a shock.
As an Ontarian already in the grip of the rent seekers, who are currently pushing to have industrial wind turbines placed in an area in Prince Edward County that is not only the biggest flyway between Ontario and New York but also (supposedly) a wildlife area, Obama and the EPA’s plans to take coal off-line may take the sting out of our over-priced electricity bills, knowing yours will now sky rocket. What a great way to level the electrical costs playing fields!
It costs a lot of money to go green, if that means building a massive gas powered generation system to back up unreliable green power or to replace coal, so replacing America’s coal plants with gas plants will be a boon to the turbine manufacturers (and others). Sure power rates will go up, but think of all those construction jobs and how well the gas producers will do.
Yes what ethanol did for feed costs and the cost of food!
What do you mean I am being sarcastic?
Will Obama’s plan save you money? Yes, if you’re applying for renewable energy subsidies.
He is a despicable person and history will substantiate that fact.
Hey, you never know. Maybe in an alternate, topsy-turvy, black-is-white reality it would save money.
It will not save money. It will cost money. It’s ObamaCare all over again!
For sure.
Once you hit poverty you have no money to spare, so Obama will save you from making any spending choices.
Sort of what all these do-gooders all aspire to, it is a free world as long as you chose what they want of you.
if you believe this is “efficient” and “relatively painless”, you obviously haven’t been paying attention:
5 Aug: Bloomberg: Don’t Like Obama’s Carbon Plan? Fine, Here’s Cap and Trade
by Mark Drajem and Lynn Doan
Now, while the Chamber (of Commerce) said it opposes the new Environmental Protection Agency’s carbon regulations, many company representatives say they’re pleased that trading can be used to help them keep down the cost of cutting their use of coal under the EPA regulations.
“Trading is one of the most efficient ways to get the market to act,” said Arvin Ganesan, vice president at Advanced Energy Economy in Washington, which represents companies such as Johnson Controls Inc. and First Solar Inc. “It yields results and minimizes the cost on customers.”…
“It’s a really big leap forward,” said Bob Wyman, a lawyer representing companies such as Alstom SA, Calpine Corp. and Boeing Co. which support the EPA’s efforts and say they want them to work. The way EPA set it up, states can enter a trading system by default and so that may be the easiest option.
“It makes it easier for the rank-and-file officials to say that this is doable,” said Vicki Arroyo, the head of the Georgetown Climate Center. “It will be relatively painless.”…
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-04/don-t-like-obama-s-clean-power-plan-fine-here-s-cap-and-trade
We all forgot something. I remember clearly, in Obama’s first term, the administration made a huge push for a Cap And Trade system. This was a major policy initiative and part of his “Fundamental Transformation”. After a while the bill got bogged down in congress. To get it moving, the president made open threats, on numerous occasions, that if the C and T bill failed, he would use the EPA to regulate the power industry. And he made it clear that the regulation would be far worse than any C and T legislation would be. He was outright blackmailing congress, there is no other way of putting it. In any event, congress declined on the C and T bill.
Viewed from this historical perspective, this program is nothing more than president Petulant making good on his threats. This regulatory agenda is designed to hurt and cause harm, it is just that simple.
What kind of morally bankrupt leader would actually propose such a thing.
C’mon, it could be worse.
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