Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Arnold Schwarzenegger has joined an unprecedented group of politicians, celebrities and faith leaders gathered at the summit of conscience meeting Paris, who have demanded immediate action on climate change.
According to the Guardian (quoting Schwarzenegger);
“I’ve starred in a lot of science fiction movies and, let me tell you something, climate change is not science fiction, this is a battle in the real world, it is impacting us right now.
“I believe the science is in. The debate is over and the time for action is now,” he told an invited audience of intellectuals and spiritual leaders from all faiths. “This is bigger than any movie, this is the challenge of our time. And it is our responsibility to leave this world a better place than we found it, but right now we are failing future generations.”
“This year alone we will dump 40bn tonnes of carbon emissions into our atmosphere. The World Health Organization says that air pollution causes over 7 million premature deaths every year and all over the world we can see flooding, monster storms, droughts and wild-fires that are completely out of control.”
I’m an Arnie fan, but this doesn’t mean I’ll defer my reason to Schwarzenegger’s authority as a climate expert. I don’t doubt Schwarzenegger is sincere, but the grouping now gathered in Paris, whether individual members know it or not, in my opinion represents part of an unprecedented attempt to shackle the global economy, to provide rent seeking renewable corporatists with an open opportunity to enslave and plunder the poor, by driving up the price of food and energy. To drive up prices to the point that some poor people will begin to starve to death.
If there was a climate emergency, the appropriate response would be to decarbonise the economy with nuclear reactors, not to push for renewables which even top Google engineers admit simply don’t work. Since nobody can demonstrate any global warming whatsoever since 1997, without overcooking the numbers, there clearly isn’t a problem urgent enough to justify inflicting unspeakable horror and starvation on the most vulnerable people of the world.
If you want to exercise your conscience Arnold Schwarzenegger, do some more research. Do what Bill McKibben recently did, take a short drive down the road to Chico, CA, and listen to another side to the story. Anthony might or might not persuade you – but at least you will have made an effort, to hear both sides of the story. Don’t blindly place your credibility and good faith into the hands of people who, in my opinion, knowingly or unknowingly represent the interests of unscrupulous rent seeking corporatists.
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An actor is seldom worth listening to – unless he is speaking from a script.
“unless he is speaking from a script.”
Seems he is, the message is clearly alarmist scratch.
It’s fiction rather than science fiction then.
Science fiction has the burden of at least sounding plausible.
Science fantasy?
He knows because he is a terminator from the future.
Cheers
Roger
http://www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com
He’s for real on this. The water company is telling him his groundskeepers can’t water the lawn. The Governor says climate change is to blame. If it’s ever going to rain again in California, we have to muscle up and whip tha azz of CO2!
“I’ve starred in a lot of science fiction movies and, let me tell you something”
I still prefer banging the maid.
As there’s little real science in the IPCC’s output, then the
term Science can be omitted, leaving just
Fiction.
That seems reasonable.
I prefer the more accurate Scientific Fraud.
The Pope and now Schwarzenegger. That’s a couple of big hitters there…
Yes, really famous names in the scientific community.
He needs a holiday.
Firstly Arnie needs to understand the difference between atmospheric gas pollution and CO2, Big hint Arnie, before you talk in public about Science, you actually need to have listened during your middle AND grade school science class….
Arnie just wants to be back in the spotlight. Fading fame must be mighty uncomfortable for him.
We need a holiday from him.
We did have one for a while, as he was being divorced and taking care of “things” with a broom & dustpan by sweeping his bad behavior under the rug. Amazing performance and now please Arnold, just go away.
1. This year alone we will dump 40bn tonnes of carbon emissions into our atmosphere.
2. The World Health Organization says that air pollution causes over 7 million premature deaths every year.
3. All over the world we can see flooding, monster storms, droughts and wild-fires that are completely out of control.
First of all, carbon?
Use the proper name.
It is Carbon dioxide, a colorless, tasteless, trace gas essential for life on this planet.
And what does 1 have to do with 2 and 3?
They are really scraping the bottom of the barrel….
Totally. Since Di Caprio has failed as the spokesman they have now put Arnie into bat and he speaks from the script he has been given and even tries to move the pea.
Carbon Dioxide is not pollution dear Governator.
In fact, he sounds very ignorant. Let him speak a lot.
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The sad thing is that he has prostituted himself with two of the latest hot button memes, weather weirding and public health. These are both nonsense but are very effective with low information citizens.
It’s blame, shame and fear all the way down. Should they be ashamed of these tactics? They should be, but sociopathically, aren’t.
The social pathology is deep and getting deeper. The economic pathology is wide and getting wider.
Call the cattle home, across the sands of Dee.
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It’s too late. We have to evacuate.
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Item 2 – heard a pretty good discussion on this one – they are talking about how particulate matter in the air. That has been pretty well documented likely has little if anything to do with global warming except for the soot on ice and glaciers and aerosols reflecting sunlight away from the earth. Oh, wait. But still, volcanoes clearly put more into the air than we do.
Nevertheless, we should continue to clean up the air as we have been doing for 40 plus years. My dad died in part due to farmer’s lung. Anyone who has baled hay or tilled a field knows how much dust they may have in their lungs. So do coal miners and there was a time black lung was a major issue. I have ridden horse back through the US deserts and coughed up red dust for days. We are now aware of the risks and we can choose or not choose to avail ourselves of protection from particulate matter – including in the cab of a farm tractor.
The WHO is talking about limiting PM 10 and 2.5. Thing is, the western world is already pretty much in compliance with the standards except near sources of some of this particulate matter from industry and near highways and bus routes in high density areas of cities. I can’t argue with the goal of getting the developed world to be there too, but it won’t happen as long as they are in energy poverty burning charcoal inside their homes for cooking.
I think the number of deaths they attribute seems a little large as there are many contributing factors. But unlike the “Climate Change” that I believe is mostly natural, we can clean up our portion of the particulate matter. But old mother nature still has the upper hand in many places.
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs313/en/
Most of the deaths are from burning dung and wood in poorly ventilated homes for cooking and heating. The increased us of fossil fuels to provide energy and increase prosperity would eliminate the cause of most of these deaths, and the increased longevity and productivity would vastly increase the economic positive from fossil fuels. Fossil fuels provide social benefits that far outweigh their exaggerated social costs.
majormike1, you seem to ignore the fact that burning fossil fuels in poorly ventilated homes is no different than burning dung or wood in them. It’s not the fuel that kills, it’s the lack of proper ventilation that is the cause.
Joel, I hope you are being sarcastic, because Mike is talking about supplying electricty generated by burning fossil fuels in power stations, not a litre of kerosene in a pressure cooker.
Kerosene and propane burn cleaner (less smoke) than wood and dung.
Ray Boorman….. Mike was not talking about supplying electricity, he said: “Most of the deaths are from burning dung and wood in poorly ventilated homes” which is what I was responding to.
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rogerknights …..Smoke, or no smoke, burning anything in a poorly ventilated area is very very dangerous.
Hey Other_Andy! You say:
“First of all, carbon? Use the proper name. It is Carbon dioxide.”
That is one of the things that bugs the heck out of me! Generally speaking, if anyone refers to CO2 as “carbon” I know that they are scientific idiots. If they absolutely refuse to call it “carbon-dioxide” then instead of “carbon” they ought to call it “oxygen”. After all, CO2 (by mass) is only 27% carbon, but 73% oxygen! I guess that long heart rending speeches about “oxygen pollution” just don’t have the proper emotional punch.
Why not use the percentage of the atmosphere instead of the tons? The bigger number sounds scarier.
(Oh. And, Arnold, unless the carbon is hooked with with oxygen or other elements that would make it a part of a molecule of gas, the first calm day or rain will take it back to Ol’ Ma Gaia anyway.)
The Science is in?
Only a script reading ACTOR would recite that.
The science is in erroris more accurate.
The BBC mentioned two items from today’s newspapers this morning, the first being how arctic ice had increased, from the Daily Mail.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3168504/Arctic-sea-ice-boosted-cool-summer-2013-study-reveals.html
To maintain the balance they mentioned Arnie’s comments from The Grauniad!
We keep hearing this ” the debate is over ” mantra. Anyone here remember a debate?
They debated whether to go full bat sh%t crazy, or merely extremely alarmist. The alarmists lost.
“I’ve starred in a lot of science fiction movies” He may very well be overqualified in the fiction side, but certainly not so in the science side! I also think the term science fiction is an oxymoron unless it is associated with AGW.
never was the sharpest kinfe in the drawer..remember waaay back when he was still in the bodybuilding game n dating ms shriver..we laughed a lot at arnie for president..well using his socialclimbing ability he did make gubernator..;-) but then fouled his own nest.
he really ought to stfu and stick to movies..
guess this is just another script really another BAD one.
The “summit of conscience”. Yet again, they seize the higher ground.
Pointman
And roll the BS downhill at us.
Mister Schwarzenegger and the steroids:
Not sci-fi, merely a steroidal socialist fantasy.
I wonder if this idiot will admit to any responsibility for the Californian drought, which could have been mitigated if the powers that be – possibly even the Governor of the time – had encouraged the thought of constructing more dams to contain the seasonal rain?
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/061215-757095-california-drought-caused-by-environmental-activists.htm
good analysis of California drought by Rep. Nunes who is chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He represents California’s 22nd congressional district.
He’s right.
As presented in the media, it’s Metaphysics.
One should forgive make believers (actors) for confusing reality with the real thing.
I hope someone brings this post to his attention.
Obama is a much greater threat to life on earth than climate change.
Obama seems to be taking another president’s advice waaay too far (“If a problem cannot be solved, enlarge it”).
Arny, lets face it your just “Pardy Poopar.”
Ahnuld claims to be a Republican as well. He doesn’t seem to understand the meaning of words.
He’s a RINO… and one without cojones when faced with a Democratic legislature. Mr. “Cave-In”
Didn’t he do a film called True Lies ?
He’s an expert on fictional science I guess.
Stop your subject is not science. CC is a topic of science. CC is real but not due to gases.
he CREATOR has not made gases for GHE to warm the earth. They are great coolant of one of many cooling systems of the nature. Gases are freely moving molecules. So, they can’t form ‘green house’. Only solid materials can be fixed to make four walls. Solid transparent materials like plastics and glasses are used to make green houses, so that the sunlight goes though to heat inside the green houses. So GHG idea is metaphorical, ridiculous, fake, imaginary, spurious and greatest fraud in the history of science. Gases are helping the earth to cool down by convection method of heat transmission all the time and man has no control over the process. Therefore, don’t blame gases for GHE.
We can reduce the use of fossil fuel to almost zero percent for electricity by making correction in the hydropower engineering.
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CNN interviewed Jerry Brown last nite Australia time and began by linking the Californian drought with CAGW. can’t find it online, however:
21 July: CNN: Delia Gallagher: Pope: We cannot separate ourselves from the environment
California Gov. Jerry Brown quoted the founder of the Italian Communist Party, Antonio Gramsci, “pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will,” to encourage mayors to not be, “in any way confident or complacent,” in the fight for change…
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/21/world/pope-francis-climate-trafficking-conference/
ABC7/AP bring up the drought & claim to know what “climate change supporters” are asking!
21 July: ABC7: Adrienne Bankert: Gov. Jerry Brown blasts climate-change naysayers at Vatican symposium
Ahead of the meeting with the pontiff, Brown, who previously studied to be a catholic priest before entering politics, quoted from the Bible to make a case for moving away from the use of fossil fuels.
“God is not mocked for whatsoever a man soweth that he shall also reap and what Saint Paul said in reference to God, we can also say about God’s creation. We have heard what we are doing to that creation. What a trillion tons of CO2 and other greenhouse gasses will do,” Brown said.
It’s not the first time the governor quoted Bible verses in his speeches – but it might have been the first time he used the word “bamboozled” to describe those who believe climate change is not sound science.
“Right in the middle of this problem, we have fierce opposition and blind inertia and that opposition is well financed. Hundreds of millions of dollars going into propaganda, in falsifying the scientific record, bamboozling people of every country, television stations, political parties, think tanks, PHDs, university personnel,” Brown said…
Brown said taxpayers will not be paying for his trip to Rome.
***For all of the green changes in the golden state, California also has been under the worst drought conditions of anywhere in the country.
Climate change supporters ask – what else but global warming could be the cause of such severe weather?…
The climax of Tuesday’s inaugural session was an afternoon audience with Pope Francis, who has become a hero to the environmental movement and has used his moral authority and enormous popularity to focus world attention on climate change and its effects on the poor.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://abc7.com/news/gov-brown-blasts-climate-change-naysayers-at-vatican-symposium/868994/
Arnie is just another ‘Useful Idiot’.
Half right, he ain’t all that useful.