Lewandowsky and Cook – back from the dead with another smear paper

Having had their first paper “Recursive Fury” retracted by the journal that originally published it, these clowns are back with a reboot that has the same sad message: “people who question the veracity of global warming/climate change are nutters”.

What’s funny is that Lew et al don’t seem to realize they are talking about a large percentage of the population who have these questions:

PI_2015-07-01_science-and-politics_2-01[1]But, that doesn’t stop them from essentially labeling everyone who does not agree with “climate change” as having “conspiracy ideation” mental issues. Cook_lew-ethicsThe paper was published in a B list journal called the “Journal of Social and Political Psychology” which advertises open access. What is interesting is that the recycled Lew paper was not published in the original journal that retracted it, even though the journal made this statement:

In the light of a small number of complaints received following publication of the original research article cited above, Frontiers carried out a detailed investigation of the academic, ethical, and legal aspects of the work. This investigation did not identify any issues with the academic and ethical aspects of the study. It did, however, determine that the legal context is insufficiently clear and therefore Frontiers wishes to retract the published article. The authors understand this decision, while they stand by their article and regret the limitations on academic freedom which can be caused by legal factors.

Yes, they stand by it, but given where the reboot was published “just don’t publish in our journal again” is the real message.

If Lew et al. were looking for nutters, it seems just a look at the Table of Contents from the Journal they published in would be a prime source. Just look at some of the paper titles:

lew-journal-tocHere’s the Lew Paper:


Recurrent Fury: Conspiratorial Discourse in the Blogosphere Triggered by Research on the Role of Conspiracist Ideation in Climate Denial

Stephan Lewandowsky, John Cook, Klaus Oberauer, Scott Brophy, Elisabeth A. Lloyd, Michael Marriott

Abstract

A growing body of evidence has implicated conspiracist ideation in the rejection of scientific propositions. Internet blogs in particular have become the staging ground for conspiracy theories that challenge the link between HIV and AIDS, the benefits of vaccinations, or the reality of climate change. A recent study involving visitors to climate blogs found that conspiracist ideation was associated with the rejection of climate science and other scientific propositions such as the link between lung cancer and smoking, and between HIV and AIDS. That article stimulated considerable discursive activity in the climate blogosphere—i.e., the numerous blogs dedicated to climate “skepticism”—that was critical of the study. The blogosphere discourse was ideally suited for analysis because its focus was clearly circumscribed, it had a well-defined onset, and it largely discontinued after several months. We identify and classify the hypotheses that questioned the validity of the paper’s conclusions using well-established criteria for conspiracist ideation. In two behavioral studies involving naive participants we show that those criteria and classifications were reconstructed in a blind test. Our findings extend a growing body of literature that has examined the important, but not always constructive, role of the blogosphere in public and scientific discourse.

Keywords

rejection of science; conspiracist discourse; climate denial; Internet blogs


If anyone wants to bother to read it, here are links to the paper.
Full Text: PDF HTML

UPDATE: Barry Woods, who was instrumental in the original retraction of the first Lew paper, adds this in comments:

The complainant were vindicated on a key ethics concern.

Fury, named and labelled real identifiable people. with pathologivcal psychological traits.

Recursive Fury Mark 2, does not.. (nobody is identifiable, so the complaints were right)

I added this comment to Prof Lewandowsky’s blog

Hmmm – table three now has anonymous ID’s… (instead of names)

(thus at least one ethics concern HAS been accepted and addressed)

but as Recursive Fury was the most downloaded paper (Stephan’s own words), which had table 3, with the people actually named…

It isn’t really that anonymous now even now…

Perhaps, now this is published, you should take down the original from here:

http://www.cogsciwa.com/

http://websites.psychology.uwa.edu.au/labs/cogscience/Publications/LskyetalRecursiveFury4UWA.pdf

I was amused by this though (from the new paper):

“Conversely, a peer-reviewed critique of LOG12 and LGO13 has recently appeared in print (Dixon & Jones, 2015) (accompanied by a rejoinder; Lewandowsky, Gignac, & Oberauer, 2015),which exhibited none of the features of conspiratorial ideation that we report in this article and which involved authors that were not part of the blogosphere examined here. Crucially, such academic discourse, however critical,does not involve the attempt to silence inconvenient voices, which has become an increasingly clearly stated goal of elements of the climate “skeptic” blogosphere.”

ref: “and which involved authors that were not part of the blogosphere examined here”

Jones and Dixon were very much involved in the blogosphere with respect to this paper and are well know climate sceptics (Jones FOI’d the Climate Research Unit,( and eventually won) when they refused to supply data, he did this on basic scientific principle, when Climate Audit was refused CRU’s data. And from the climateate emails, showed how the scientist were discussing how to deal with J Jones and Don Keiller, (having words with their university’s)

Prof J Jones even gets quoted in Mark Steyn’s book, criticizing Michael Mann, Ruth Dixon has a well respected blog, and Jonathan Jones has comments in the blogosphere about LOG12 quite often during the period (Climate Audit and Bishop Hill)

an example recently being this (at Climate Audit)

Prof J Jones:

“From one point of view there are only four things wrong with the original LOG13-blogs paper. Unfortunately those four things are the design of the experiment, the implementation of the data collection, the analysis of the data, and the reporting of the results. As a consequence of this interlinked network of ineptitude it is very difficult to disentangle all the errors from each other.

The LGO13-panel paper, by comparison, is much better. The design is relatively standard: no worse than many papers in the field. The implementation is still very poor (see for example the discussion at our post on satisficing), but it’s not so bad as to render the data completely useless. The analysis is still incorrect, but this time it is possible to tease out how and why it is incorrect, rather than just noting that it’s all a horrible mess. The reporting is still poor, but that doesn’t matter for a reanalysis.

So the original point of our comment was to see what we could say about the analysis of the data from LGO13-panel. Somewhat to our surprise we found that, once we knew what to look for, the same analysis also worked for LOG13-blogs, albeit not so clearly because of the appalling skew in that dataset. We don’t say much about other issues, not because we don’t believe they are important, but simply because it’s best in a comment to pick one important issue, where the argument can be made very clearly, and then run with it.” – Prof Jonathan Jones

http://climateaudit.org/2015/03/27/jones-and-dixon-refute-conspiracy-theorist-lewandowsky/#comment-755932

Prof Henry Markram (co founder of Frontiers) explains why he retracted recursive Fury)

“The studied subjects were explicitly identified in the paper without their consent. It is well acknowledged and accepted that in order to protect a subject’s rights and avoid a potentially defamatory outcome, one must obtain the subject’s consent if they can be identified in a scientific paper. The mistake was detected after publication, and the authors and Frontiers worked hard together for several months to try to find a solution. In the end, those efforts were not successful. The identity of the subjects could not be protected and the paper had to be retracted. Frontiers then worked closely with the authors on a mutually agreed and measured retraction statement to avoid the retraction itself being misused. From the storm this has created, it would seem we did not succeed.

For Frontiers, publishing the identities of human subjects without consent cannot be justified in a scientific paper. Some have argued that the subjects and their statements were in the public domain and hence it was acceptable to identify them in a scientific paper, but accepting this will set a dangerous precedent. With so much information of each of us in the public domain, think of a situation where scientists use, for example, machine learning to cluster your public statements and attribute to you personality characteristics, and then name you on the cluster and publish it as a scientific fact in a reputable journal. While the subjects and their statements were public, they did not give their consent to a public psychological diagnosis in a scientific study. Science cannot be abused to specifically label and point out individuals in the public domain.” – Markram

http://www.frontiersin.org/blog/Rights_of_Human_Subjects_in_Scientific_Papers/830

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Gary Pearse
July 8, 2015 1:02 pm

I’ve decided to unilaterally add a new feature at WUWT: Best comment of the day:
paqyfelyc
July 8, 2015 at 8:44 am
2.1 (attested by 33 AD ) : crucify two known thieves together with the one you want to smear
[thief 1 :] link between lung cancer and smoking, and [thief 2 :] between HIV and AIDS
checked

July 8, 2015 1:09 pm

Lewandowsky et al cannot accept that they are wrong. Conspiracist ideation is effectively falsified by Lew’s two original surveys. In looking at the blog and US population internet surveys about 15 months ago I concluded:-

A recent paper, based on an internet survey of American people, claimed that “conspiracist ideation, is associated with the rejection of all scientific propositions tested“. Analysis of the data reveals something quite different. Strong opinions with regard to conspiracy theories, whether for or against, suggest strong support for strongly-supported scientific hypotheses, and strong, but divided, opinions on climate science.

As Jonathan Jones acknowledges, I reached basically the same conclusion as Dixon and Jones – though they used a more rigorous method.
This is not the only area that the Stephan Lewandowsky – a Professor of Cognitive Psychology – fails to grasp the plain obvious. As I realized quite early on, Lewandowsky blames the mistrust in “climate science” on what he considers to false thinking about the world, evidenced by belief in conspiracies and “free-market ideation”. (For which you can mean anyone on the political spectrum from Libertarian party member to moderate Democrat.) But the mistrust is more basic than that. The climate community have many times got their forecasts wrong, but never acknowledge it. They branched out from their field of applied geography into politics, ethics, public policy-making and economics. In all these areas they are largely clueless activists. They still do not acknowledge that others have a valid point of view, or something to contribute to the debate. Would you distrust people who claimed they have a monopoly on truth, when it is blatantly obvious they do not?

Reply to  Kevin Marshall
July 8, 2015 2:43 pm

Yes, I certainly would.
And do.
But I do not hate them.
In fact, I pity the fools.

Aphan
Reply to  Menicholas
July 9, 2015 9:11 am

Mr. T? Is that you? 🙂

kim
Reply to  Kevin Marshall
July 10, 2015 6:07 am

Nice point, Kevin. False thinking. It’s almost as if Lewandowsky, and many alarmists, have never even engaged in examining skeptical thought. It is false thinking to think that skeptics think falsely.
They’ll learn.
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Eric H.
July 8, 2015 1:24 pm

As a certified lay man in this arena: 1) I don’t think the world is flat, 2) Smoking causes pre-mature death in 1 in 6 smokers. 1 in 12 if confounding factors are taken into consideration. Of course I read this some place but it was backed by studies and seems reasonable. 3) Second-hand smoke dangers have been greatly exaggerated. I have read a few papers on this and equate the alarm to be that of the alarmist global warming claims. 4) The benefits of vitamins and nutritional supplements have been greatly exaggerated. 5) Vaccinations are good for society. 6) HIV causes AIDS 7) The holocaust was real 8) The CFC-Ozone depletion connection is thin and doesn’t prove that the ozone holes at the poles are man made. 9) CO2 is a greenhouse gas, the green house effect is scientifically supported and doesn’t conflict with the 2nd law of thermodynamics, CO2 levels have increased since pre-industrial times, global temperatures have increased but the increase is dependent on the years selected, scientific evidence that links CO2 to the increased temperatures as well as future global temperatures is tainted by environmental activism and political bias, Reducing CO2 emissions will do little or nothing at controlling climate change. 10) The health and environmental effects of GMOs are mostly unsubstantiated and exaggerated….I think 10 is enough.
My point: Although I may be more educated on the above than the average Johnny Q, I am by no means an expert or even a novice in any of the above fields of study. My skepticism about man made climate change has nothing to do with conspiracy ideation but is based on what I think are reasonable conclusions based on what I know. I may be wrong…but I do not see conspiracy. I wonder what Lew and Cook would have to say about me?

Reply to  Eric H.
July 8, 2015 1:51 pm

What Lew and Cook might say about you:
Options-
1. You’re wrong on at least 5 of the 10…making you only 50% intelligent.
2. You’re wrong, but you couldn’t help it because the Koch brothers (or someone else) paid vast amounts of money to confuse you and distort the truth.
3. You’re not only wrong, but we can tell that it would be a waste of time to try to teach you anything at this point.
4. You’re conclusions are not reasonable, because reasonable people would have gotten all 10 correct. And agree with us.
5. You’re probably not a published scientist, therefore you’re just wrong. 24/7. On everything. Always.
6. Just because you posted this on an internet blog doesn’t make it “important” or “constructive”.
🙂

Reply to  Aphan
July 8, 2015 2:36 pm

Excellent, Eric H. and Aphan!

Eric H.
Reply to  Aphan
July 9, 2015 11:20 am

I think you probably nailed it Aphan. I tried to post at Tamino’s site one time and I think I heard all of the above and more. Of course any point I made was quickly edited out by Tamino…

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Eric H.
July 8, 2015 3:10 pm

re: Eric H. July 8, 2015 at 1:24 pm
“As a certified lay man in this arena… 2) Smoking causes pre-mature death in 1 in 6 smokers. 1 in 12 if confounding factors are taken into consideration…”.
Of course that means that smoking doesn’t not cause pre-mature death in 5 of 6 smokers or 11 in 12 if confounding factor…..
It’s all in the eye of the beholder.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 8, 2015 3:13 pm

double negative…. oops

Eric H.
Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 9, 2015 11:21 am

Agreed. Your chances of living past 68 as a smoker are pretty darn good.

July 8, 2015 1:41 pm

Recurring Furry, as in yet another hairball.

Charles Nelson
July 8, 2015 2:07 pm

I know that time passes quickly but I am constantly amazed at how many of the younger Warmists I argue with simply have never heard of CLIMATEGATE.
Sometimes when I’m battling on comment sections and I run into heavy opposition, I simply post excerpts from Climategate emails, one at a time. Such is their fear of these few statements that the insults and provocations usually stop immediately!
I think it’s everyone’s duty to remind the world that the key scientists, in the lead body which promoted the Global Warming scare WERE conspiring to deceive.

Reply to  Charles Nelson
July 8, 2015 2:29 pm

Word, Dog!
(As the yung-uns would say.)

Reply to  Menicholas
July 8, 2015 2:31 pm

For any who are not fluent in youngsterspeak, the phrase “Word, Dog”, translates as “Right you are, my good man”.

Reply to  Charles Nelson
July 8, 2015 2:50 pm

When you post the “excerpts” do you include the context or just the sentences that have a suggestive meaning when taken out of context?

PiperPaul
Reply to  Joel D. Jackson
July 8, 2015 6:40 pm

Why should he answer your question when all you’re going to do is find something wrong with it?

Reply to  Joel D. Jackson
July 8, 2015 7:04 pm

PiperPaul, 😎

MarkW
Reply to  Joel D. Jackson
July 8, 2015 7:10 pm

This mythical context does not have the impact that your conspirational mind imputes to it.

mobihci
Reply to  Joel D. Jackson
July 8, 2015 9:13 pm

i found it funny that when presented with some of the more telling emails, and they reply its all about the context, if they really knew the true context (most dont) they would never say such a thing. the true context is MUCH more damning than the little clips of information in the emails themselves, and it gives you the opportunity to present just how they fit in context.

David A
Reply to  Charles Nelson
July 9, 2015 2:50 am

Does anyone have a decent compilation of the most damming climategate emails.?

Reply to  David A
July 9, 2015 3:07 am

To get the context you need a fair few of the emails.
So try this.
http://www.lavoisier.com.au/articles/greenhouse-science/climate-change/climategate-emails.pdf

Reply to  David A
July 9, 2015 6:04 am

Nice link ‘M Courtney’, thanks! +1

July 8, 2015 2:29 pm

On rationality of a ‘nutter’
‘Sensible’ people think that climate change is driven by CO2, regardless how insignificant its concentration is, since it happens to be around 24/7.
‘Nutters’ ignore ‘sensible’ thinking and go for something irrational.
Only a ‘nutter’ would pursue ‘ridiculous’ ideas, while ‘sensible’ scientists will comfortably and forever run in circles chasing their own tail, having the brain tattooed with the capital bold CO2 .
One wonders why anyone would want to be a ‘nutter’ when it is so easy, convenient and useful to be ‘sensible’.

LarryFine
July 8, 2015 2:32 pm

It’s been my experience that the vast majority of Internet trolls accept Global Warming as fact, and the reason may be because it feeds their pathological need to harm others. Attacking and insulting “deniers” is socially acceptable and even encouraged in the Climate alarmist community, and that’s an engraved invitation to sociopaths.
It has recently been reported that internet trolls are far more likely than the general population to display serious psychological illnesses in real life. These people are often narcisscistic, Machiavellian psychopaths.
Based on their logic, Climate alarmist are psychopaths. Which journal can I get this discovery published in? And when can I expect my Nobel Prize?

July 8, 2015 2:35 pm

Illogical psychobabble fraudsters that are so entranced by their own flawed work, continually seek to republish the same nonsense?
Just how dense are these loons?
Instead of tearing their work apart and rebuilding it from the bottom while addressing all of the very valid claims, they instead seek to republish the exact same foolishness addressing only ethical personal lapses?
Consider that several different psychologists have reviewed and dismissed the original paper as fatally flawed not counting the original paper’s horrible design, execution, data collection and analysis.
Yet these clowns insist on supporting zombie rumors by pretending to resurrect the ignoble deceased insult to cellulose plant growth?
Ah, the sweet entrancing lure of Paris must overwhelm what little is left of intelligence and common sense the authors have been hiding.

Reply to  ATheoK
July 8, 2015 3:01 pm

Shhhhh…don’t disturb them in their natural habitat. People are studying them. 🙂

Reply to  Aphan
July 8, 2015 9:21 pm

So sad, I hope it’s true.

Caligula Jones
July 8, 2015 2:59 pm

Funny: most of the True Climate Believers I run into online (can’t really call it debating) believe in at least one of of: 9/11 Was An Inside Job, non-traditional medicine (i.e., chiropractic, homeopathy, etc.), false-flag operations (i.e., most of modern news), etc.
BTW, having worked in government for 26 years, I subscribe solely to the idiom: never attribute to conspiracy that which rightly should be attributed to incompetence.

LarryFine
Reply to  Caligula Jones
July 8, 2015 4:32 pm

Jones,
Exactly! People who’ve worked in government for any appreciable length of time are the least likely to believe conspiracy theories, I think. Well, unless they’re one of “them”.
“Run from your wives! …I mean, run for your lives!”

July 8, 2015 3:00 pm

Larry,
No offense intended, but I have a very strong moral, and logical, objection to people attempting (like Lew, Cook etc) to diagnose or assign mental illness to others over the internet. (Or stereotype, or pigeonhole, or anything of that sort) No one has the ability to read the mind or heart of someone else, and no professional, ethical psychologist would EVER assume to be able to do so, much less any average person. I put it bluntly like this…how YOU behave, and what YOU say, tells me more about you than anything you could say about someone else.
There are narcissists and belligerent and annoying people out there that don’t fit the diagnosis as a “sociopath” in real life. Not all sociopaths have a “pathological need to harm others” and not everyone that you decide is a “troll” really is one. Some climate alarmists are just stupid, gullible, and uninformed.

LarryFine
Reply to  Aphan
July 8, 2015 4:28 pm

(Oops! I posted this message in the wrong place. I’ll try again…)
Aphan,
No offense taken. My post was meant as satire to spoof those who try to characterize all skeptics as crazy conspiracy theorists. I simply applied their methodology to my observations of which side of Climate Change most internet trolls are on and the results of recent psychological research on trolls.
Now if I can just get this discovery published in a major journal, I feel certain that a Nobel will be mine! 😉

Aphan
Reply to  LarryFine
July 9, 2015 8:57 am

Leo, I really liked this summary. I think you are very accurate.

Aphan
Reply to  LarryFine
July 9, 2015 9:01 am

Now I am leaving responses in the wrong place! Sigh. Mod…can you delete the post to Leo here?
Larry, thanks for explaining. My sarc detector is on the fritz.

July 8, 2015 3:20 pm

From the Journal’s Publication Ethics and Publication Malpractice Statement
climate science

Disclosure and conflicts of interest
All authors should include a statement disclosing any financial or other substantive conflicts of
interest that may be construed to influence the results or interpretation of their manuscript.

If you published a paper titled NASA faked the moon landing:Therefore (Climate) Science is a Hoax: An Anatomy of the Motivated Rejection of Science and folks pointed out the that less than 1% of respondents believed in the conspiracy in the title (10/1145), would it not be a conflict of interest to do a paper analyzing the responses without recognizing this fact that was hidden in the original paper?
There is no sophisticated and complex conflict of interest here. Just a bunch of dogmatic people who cannot recognize that there are are other points of view possible, that have proven to be more valid than their own.

July 8, 2015 3:41 pm

Re: Lewandowsky & Cook 7/8/15:
Internet blogs in particular have become the staging ground for conspiracy theories that challenge the link between HIV and AIDS, the benefits of vaccinations, or the reality of climate change.
Lewandowsky & Cook promote climatology to a science by citing climate change (omitting manmade) as coequals alongside HIV/AIDS and vaccination models. Some minimally science-literate interlocutor needs to ask the L&C to explain why the epidemiology models successfully predict disease rates, while the AGW model successfully predict nothing.
Science reporters, like the authors, are unaware that Modern Science requires models to work, while Post Modern Science requires instead that they be (1) peer-reviewed, (2) published in certified journals, and (3) claimed to have consensus support from a clique of certified practitioners. The two versions of science monopolize center stage today, but their criteria are mutually exclusive, PMS being what philosophers call the deconstruction of MS. MS thrives in industry, as it must, including pharmacy labs, while Climatology is academe’s poster child for PMS. All the latter has to do is seed government regulations and dislodge money.

Hot under the collar
July 8, 2015 3:50 pm

This ‘Recursive Fury’ paper should be required reading for any psychology course because it is a very good example of author ‘psychological projection’.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  Hot under the collar
July 8, 2015 4:05 pm

You don’t need to be a psychologist to recognise that Lew and his sidekicks are displaying some very odd, even obsessive, behaviour.

mobihci
Reply to  Chris Hanley
July 8, 2015 9:40 pm

very true, and the fact is, the amount of eyes that see that scribble will be a tiny fraction of those that read this one blog. if their aim is to clear their minds by some self-confirmation to their religion, then it wont really help. just more people will see how dishonest they are. each passing paper will bring further ridicule too.
i think the sane are backing away from global warming, only those with vested interests remain to defend it, and these two are an example of those that placed their careers and reputations on the line. they have no where to go, and their egos wont let them take the path of truth.

Dave
Reply to  Chris Hanley
July 9, 2015 3:21 am

When Lew’s current paper doesn’t have the desired effect, he could quite probably turn to stalking. He needs therapy…

Tom J
July 8, 2015 5:48 pm

There is a branch of psychology, wedded to philosophy, that maintains life cannot exist without meaning.
Now, think of a shrimp; a creature of the ocean. And, it’s netted by a trawler. It is surrendering its one and only life but, nonetheless, that ultimate sacrifice gave it meaning. A mere invertebrate, it is soon to provide gastronomical joy to a vertebrate – a higher being. What great worth and meaning that shrimp’s life has been.
Now try, just try to visualize that deceased shrimp’s spirit hovering overhead its cocktail sauce embalmed body as the spirit shrimp sees its former self being forked … try to visualize this … being forked and brought up to …
… that … that … that open mouth!
On that man! To that open mouth. And no way to stop it.

Neo
July 8, 2015 7:47 pm

They left out that some climate skeptics also don’t believe that artificial sweeteners were safe, WMDs were in Iraq and Anna Nicole married for love.

Ursus Augustus
July 8, 2015 8:52 pm

Ah, La Lewny.
Sometimes I just can’t get enough of La Lewny. Cook just turns me off, he’s a complete nuff nuff in my opinion but La Lewny is something special. His facial ticspressions are mesmerising.
Go to

to see what I mean.
Its like going to some strange religious ceremony in some obscure language. You just go with the flow and watch the perfromance.
Episode 10: is good too. try

There’s lots more
Enjoy.

mobihci
Reply to  Ursus Augustus
July 8, 2015 9:53 pm

hahaha, video 1 – there is a conspiracy… by conspiracy nuts to bring down the climate establishment!!!
this just has to be self-parody.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Ursus Augustus
July 9, 2015 12:26 am

It’s obvious to me that this guy has used LSD and psychoactive drugs IMO. He has likely experimented with at least one or more those things that are casuing those tics and mannerisms that he can’t control that he is not aware of.
But what I find amusing is he is accusing skeptics of being alarmists based one just a few data points, when in reality it is exactly the opposite.
The Climate Change Believers are the ones now who ignore the big picture and press to focus on a few manipulated data sets and just the Arctic ice levels being soemwhat low. They need people to ignore the contrary evidence that builds uncertainty to Climate Change. Such as the Antarctic Sea Ice levels at record highs, Greenland Ice pack now growing, Arctic multiyear ice now higher, inconvenent growing glaciers in the Humalyas that need to be ignored. Droughts come and go. Regional patterns change, but it is the CAGW believers who press the CA drought as evidence of Climate Change. Hogwash, and we all know it.
Mr. Lewandosky is the nut case. No doubt about that.

Ursus Augustus
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 9, 2015 4:15 am

Interesting you should make that comment Joel. Of course that old acid head, the original acid head, Timothy Leary was a psychology PhD who taught at Harvard no less.

kim
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 9, 2015 8:21 am

Heh, ‘My name is Stephen. I think about misinformation’, from your second video.
Why, yes, he certainly does.
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hunter
Reply to  Ursus Augustus
July 9, 2015 7:23 am

Facial tics are a common complication of psychiatric drug use/abuse.

Aphan
Reply to  Ursus Augustus
July 9, 2015 9:06 am

I tried REALLY hard to not enjoy or incorporate the word “ticspressions” into my current and future vocabulary…I want to be a nice person. But alas, my soul has a dark and snide corner and I cannot stop laughing.

601nan
July 8, 2015 8:57 pm

Another “broadside” failed from CooLew! How lovely.

indefatigablefrog
July 9, 2015 12:00 am

It is hard for me to see how Dana, Lew and Cook may imagine that they have achieved anything beyond alienating both reasonable skeptics and scientifically honorable alarmists.
Even if I were a committed alarmist who wished to use propaganda and smears to support my case for the destruction of western industrial infrastructure, then I don’t think that I would want these people fighting on my side.
I formerly bought into the alarmist propositions, after a decade of subscription to National Geographic and drinking up all the kool-aid served to me by the BBC and the Guardian, but even back in those days, I still would have been shocked by this level of witless pseudo-science as churned out by Lewandowsky.
This group accuse skeptics of raising questions that tie up the debate.
But, for several years now, the debate has been focused on a crappy psychology paper which is patently an embarrassment to anyone who has the misfortune of being associated with it.
How has that helped the development of scientific knowledge?
It’s helped Dana, Cook and Lew to grab the limelight for themselves.
Are they totally blind to the fact that it is the inept and shoddy actions of individuals such as themselves that have lead many people to increasingly question whether or not they can trust the pronouncements of academic scientists?
Anyway, as is often requoted here: “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”

Reply to  indefatigablefrog
July 9, 2015 12:55 am

That’s the point.
JMason at the Guardian claimed he was a scientist and therefore sceptical. And yet he supported this paper.
Clearly, he isn’t sceptical. So he can’t really be a scientist.
Real scientists will be wary of anyone who follows into this trap. The paper is so clearly junk that anyone supporting it must have abandoned their critical facilities..
It’s a pseudoscientistometer.

July 9, 2015 12:14 am

Ho hum.
You create a conspiracy to falsify global data, subvert science and flood the media with propaganda that you basically call ‘science’.
And then when someone challenges you, you say they are suffering from conspiracy theorism.
Where’s that T-shirt?
“Sometimes there really is a conspiracy”

July 9, 2015 12:18 am

The list of scientific blunders is a long one. No conspiracy theory is needed:
Once upon a time 99.9% of scientists believed that continents had fixed geographic positions. Those of us who claimed that continents were mobile were labelled nutters.
S. J. Gould remarked that, if PhD students and post-docs at Harvard wanted to discuss continental drift, they had to do in the back stairwell. At my alma mater we were warned that if we ever wanted to teach at a university in North America we had to conceal our views on continental mobility.
Ditto in Darwin’s time for anyone who believed the Earth was older than 300 million years, the age computed by Lord Kelvin. He did not know about radioactivity and the heat of fission.
Ditto for anyone who doubted that humans had 48 chromosomes. Or that pyloric disease was caused by an organism. Or that infectious diseases are caused by organisms.
Thomas Kuhn showed how herds of scientists are formed and how the herds fragment and reform.
Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds is a history of popular folly by Scottish journalist Charles Mackay, first published in 1841.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_Popular_Delusions_and_the_Madness_of_Crowds
No conspiracy is necessary to explain belief in catastrophic man-made climate warming.

cd
July 9, 2015 1:02 am

I think these two are suffering from physical-science envy and want to get in on the act.

kim
July 9, 2015 6:05 am

When I first became aware of Lewandowsky, my first thought was that he was projecting. Nothing from him since has changed my mind.
A good question is whether or not he really believes his nonsense, or whether he is a charlatan taking advantage of the asymmetry of the debate, and the massive amount of money and mistaken belief supporting the alarmist position.
Ignorant or disingenuous, it’s always the same question, the same question.
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kim
Reply to  kim
July 9, 2015 6:13 am

This is also a tool for examining conspiracy. Is the proponent ignorant or ‘ingenious’?
I’ve long claimed that this catastrophism is no vast conspiracy, though there are certainly those who’ve breathed together insidiously and socially destructively. Instead, this is a social mania, a bubble of belief, an extraordinary popular delusion and a madness of the crowd.
The bubble grew for all of the natural reasons detailed at length in many skeptical commentaries. It has destroyed wealth in an epic fashion, it is a delusion and won’t stand the test of time.
We are going to have to develop, as a species, resistance to this sort of madness. I expect this short-lived social phenomena of alarm to become a vaccine against the most virulent form of this madness.
See, there will ultimately be some benefit for our detour into social psychosis.
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Reply to  kim
July 9, 2015 6:57 am

I agree Kim, it is either projection or outright lying. I tend to think in his case it is the former, if only because his videos do not make me think it likely he is a very good liar or actor.
He honestly believes his delusions, very possibly.

kim
Reply to  menicholas
July 9, 2015 7:16 am

It’s hard to tell with him. His videos scream ‘liar’ at me, but that may be my bias. He’s either stone cold mad, or desperately corrupt.
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kim
Reply to  menicholas
July 9, 2015 7:21 am

Given his involvement with the obvious propaganda mill, I tend to go with corrupt. You may be right, though, that he is only very sick, and I hope for the sake of him and his soul that you are right.
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July 9, 2015 10:06 am

At the end of the article is Professor Markam’s explanation for withdrawing the article in question. He pontificates “in science we cannot allow… ” Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t these the same “scientists” who allow that the proper treatment for some cases of identity disorder is surgical mutilation and hormone therapy to transform the biological sex of a patient! Psychology is the only field where a huge percentage of its practitioners get involved with in order to come to grips their own troubled mental condition. Since the second world war it is almost like the inmates have taken over the asylum!

Robert Grumbine
July 9, 2015 10:41 am

It’s old fashioned, I know, but I prefer that when someone presents a quote, such as

“people who question the veracity of global warming/climate change are nutters”

, the source it’s attributed to actually have said what is in the quote.
Lewandowsky et al did not say that, although you attribute it to him. Insofar as ‘nutter’ appears in the article, it is quoting people who were complaining about the prior article — that they didn’t like being portrayed as ‘nutter’s.
If you’re going to complain about ‘smear’, it’d be better founded if you didn’t start by inventing an inflammatory quote and putting it in someone else’s mouth.

kim
Reply to  Robert Grumbine
July 9, 2015 12:28 pm

It is, however, correctly characterized as a ‘sad message’. Would you care to address Lewandowsky’s gross errors rather than Anthony’s minor one?
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JoeP17901
July 9, 2015 1:23 pm

There is an article about this paper on RTCC.org
http://www.rtcc.org/2015/07/08/climate-denial-conspiracy-theories-contentious-study-republished
I keep trying to post a comment but I guess they don’t like comments by non-believers.
It seems like an innocuous comment and is related to the topic but after 4 tries still no success.
Conspiracy theory-skeptical scientists are in the pockets of Big Oil.

wally
Reply to  JoeP17901
July 9, 2015 2:12 pm

http://www.mintpressnews.com/exxon-knew-of-climate-change-in-1981-but-funded-deniers-for-27-more-years/207391/
https://s3.amazonaws.com/ucs-documents/global-warming/Climate-Deception-Dossiers_All.pdf
And conspiracy theorist warmists look for ANY connection to Big Oil so they can proclaim AHA!
Maybe they should look under ALL the rocks in academia instead of just the skeptical ones. They may find themselves in good company with Big Oil, Big Pharma and the rest of the multi-national corporatists.