The Pope's Encyclical Exposes Real Agenda Behind Global Warming

Guest opinion: Dr. Tim Ball

Many times quotations are truncated to change the original meaning. When the larger quote is examined, a very different meaning often emerges. For example, most say, “Money is the root of all evil” when the full quote of Timothy 6:10 is “The love of money is the root of all evil”. This addition creates a very different emphasis and perspective. Lord Acton’s quote that “All power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely” is similarly altered by the sentence that follows, “Great men are almost always bad men.” A frequently used quote in the climate debate quotes in “Science Under Siege” by Michael Fumento is Senator Timothy Wirth’s,

“We’ve got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing,

When you add the latter part of the sentence that says, “in terms of economic policy and environmental policy ” a different understanding emerges. What is the “economic policy”? The answer is the economic redistribution of wealth by the government, or socialism. Now the quote parallels what Pope Francis is identifying in his Encyclical “Laudato Si.

Global warming was always that, the problem is most people still don’t know, although there are signs they are learning. The recent Pew Center poll indicates more people recognize global warming as a political issue. Publication of an article on WUWT discussing the ongoing debate about humans and their role in nature is another indicator. I commend Anthony Watts for recognizing the need for airing a wider context for the debate. The problem is most don’t know or understand the political issues involved. Few are aware of the link between global warming, climate change, and overpopulation. Most don’t know that the objectives of the United Nations Environment Program, the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) were to demand population reduction because too many people were using too many resources and destroying the Earth.

The person who believed this vehemently was Hans Schellnhuber, Director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) so he became a senior advisor to the Vatican. He is a member of the IPCC, which might explain his appointment, but It might also be due to his beliefs as a Pantheist, which one dictionary defines as

the doctrine that God is the transcendent reality of which the material universe and human beings are only manifestations: it involves a denial of God’s personality and expresses a tendency to identify God and nature.

Some describe Pantheism is the antithesis of atheism, which would attract a religious group. However, Schellnhuber believes global warming will solve the overpopulation. In a presentation in Copenhagen in 2009 he said that if global temperatures rose 9 degrees Fahrenheit Earth’s population would be devastated. He commented,

“In a very cynical way, it’s a triumph for science because at last we have stabilized something –- namely the estimates for the carrying capacity of the planet, namely below 1 billion people,”

The irony lost on environmentalists and advocates against global warming is that if overpopulation is the real problem then according to Schellenhuber global warming offers a solution. The same argument holds for Malthusian controls, such as disease, wars, and famine.

The latest Encyclical by Pope Francis is a revolutionary document in which it appears Pope Francis decided that overpopulation is a bigger problem than Church doctrine, especially when the increased population is industrialized, developed and prosperous. These are exactly the positions underlying the goals of the UN Agenda 21, the White House, and most other nations. Like them, the Encyclical uses global warming as a front for a political agenda. The problem is the political agenda contradicts fundamental traditional Catholic belief and teaching. The church has always fought against birth control and abortions. Ironically, just 11 years ago the Vatican openly and actively fought the UN and the White House over these issues.

Overpopulation is the central concern of environmentalism and environmentalists. The concern obtained global and political attention in the 1960s through the Club of Rome and, in particular, the publication of Paul Ehrlich’s book The Population Bomb. Overpopulation remained a central issue through the 1970s and 1980s but moved to the background after 1988 when James Hansen appeared before the US Senate subcommittee and began the shift in the public arena to global warming. Publication of the first Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Report in 1990 shifted the focus to global warming in the scientific and political arena.

The importance of overpopulation continued as part of the United Nations Environment Program and Agenda 21. The Clinton Administration led by Al Gore and Timothy Wirth focused on the 1994 International Conference on Population and Development in Cairo, Egypt. It was the third conference after the first in Budapest in 1974 and the second in Mexico City in 1984. The Clinton Administration believed the Mexico meeting did not achieve the goals of population control they desired. They decided to make a determined effort to narrow the focus in Cairo, just as they did with the Hansen Hearing. Senator Timothy Wirth arranged the Hansen hearing, including pulling Hansen from obscurity in NASA. As Undersecretary of State for Global Affairs, he also participated in the planning and policy positions taken by the US government in Cairo. As one author explained,

In league with several Scandinavian and West European countries, UN and World Bank population technocrats, and feminist, anti-natalist, and environmentalist NGOs, the Clintonites sought to engineer a dramatic shift in the focus of the Cairo conference. The packaging (“Population and Development”) would remain, but the content would be dramatically altered-with the earth’s “carrying capacity,” “gender equality, equity, and empowerment of women,” and “reproductive rights” supplanting mere “population and development” as the issues of moment.

These actions explain Wirth’s truncated comment discussed earlier in which the last phrase shows global warming was just a vehicle for the greater objective of population control.

Most of the objectives of the Cairo Conference contradicted traditional Catholic values but none more than the promotion of abortion. In a remarkable action, six days before the Conference the Vatican issued a statement accusing Al Gore of misrepresenting the Conference agreement on abortion.

 

Since preparations for the conference began in April, Pope John Paul II and his aides have taken the lead in condemning it as likely to legitimize abortion as a means of birth control, in direct contradiction of Roman Catholic doctrine on the sanctity of life from the moment of conception.

Today’s broadside by Joaquin Navarro-Valls, the Pope’s chief spokesman, was the first time that the Vatican had formally accused the United States of being the principal sponsor of pro-abortion policies and also the first time it had publicly attacked a high American official by name.

“Mr. Al Gore, Vice President of the U.S.A. and member of the American delegation, recently stated that ‘the United States has not sought, does not seek and will not seek to establish an international right to abortion,’ ” Mr. Navarro-Valls said at a news conference today. “The draft population document, which has the United States as its principal sponsor, contradicts, in reality, Mr. Gore’s statement.”

The White House denied the accusations that angered many in the Democratic Party, as the Los Angeles Times noted,

What promised to be a sharp and much needed debate over methods of population control is liable to end in a fog of public-relations spin control. Critics of the U.N. population conference’s draft proposal allege that it promotes abortion as a method of family planning and favors individual sexual health and liberty over the health of the family. For eight months, the draft had the unwavering support of the Clinton Administration; two weeks ago, shortly before the conference began in Cairo, however, the backpedaling began. After the Catholic hierarchy in this country threatened that Catholics would leave the Democratic Party, and after it became clear that several Islamic countries would ally themselves with the Vatican, Vice President Al Gore and Timothy Wirth of the State Department insisted that the United States was pursuing policies more or less the same as those of the Catholic Church. Could this possibly be true?

Prior to the Cairo Conference, the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) cosponsored a meeting with Ted Turner (CNN), the Pew Charitable Trust and one branch of Harvard University. The moderator was CNN employee Marvin Kalb, who opened by saying that the world is frighteningly overcrowded. Al Gore spoke first and tried to discount the demographic transition model as an appropriate solution to population control. Typical Gore, I am rich with a big carbon footprint, but you are not allowed.

Now the Vatican is in a different political bed than in Cairo. As Time reported,

An unusual convergence of interests between Roman Catholic and Muslim leaders put the organizers of the United Nations-sponsored conference on the defensive around the flash points of abortion and sex education for teens.

In the Encyclical, Pope Francis rationalizes the latest affiliation and position by dismissing those who question the evidence. Scientists practicing proper skeptical science and others with alternative views are dismissed in a very unchristian manner.

Obstructionist attitudes, even on the part of believers, can range from denial of the problem to indifference, nonchalant resignation or blind confidence in technical solutions.

Luckily, the climate change portion of the Encyclical is minimal and wrong. The evidence provided shows that those with “obstructionist attitudes” on climate are correct. The main theme of the Encyclical is population and its errant ways concerning the environment. This shifts the focus away from climate and back to the larger issue of overpopulation, which is good because that is an easier debate. The public understands the fundamentals of population dynamics better than the complexities of climate. Besides, Catholics reject the church view on birth control as the statistics indicate. This trend occurred despite the fact that birth control was mandated in an earlier Encyclical Humanae Vitae. It is a fascinating position taken by men who will not allow women to be priests and practice the most unnatural behavior of celibacy. As a defrocked priest friend of mine, now married told me, I laugh when I remember, as a single celibate priest, counseling couples about marriage.

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218 thoughts on “The Pope's Encyclical Exposes Real Agenda Behind Global Warming

  1. “…[B]irth control was mandated in an earlier Encyclical Humanae Vitae.”
    Mandate, tr.v,: To make mandatory, as by law; decree or require”
    So, no.

    • You are correct. It should read: “…birth control was forbidden in an earlier Encyclical Humanae Vitae.”

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    • http://w2.vatican.va/content/paul-vi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae.html
      Unlawful Birth Control Methods
      Similarly excluded is any action which either before, at the moment of, or after sexual intercourse, is specifically intended to prevent procreation—whether as an end or as a means. (16)
      …Consequently, it is a serious error to think that a whole married life of otherwise normal relations can justify sexual intercourse which is deliberately contraceptive and so intrinsically wrong.

      • Also from Encyclical Humanae Vitae
        Recourse to Infertile Periods
        Neither the Church nor her doctrine is inconsistent … but condemns as always unlawful the use of means which directly prevent conception, even when the reasons given for the later practice may appear to be upright and serious.
        ==============
        “but condemns as always unlawful” seems pretty clear.

    • @Jorgekafkazar
      Yes mandated is not the correct word. It should be one of banned, outlawed, prohibited, anathema, forbidden, or proscribed

    • 1) Tim Ball has not read or understood Humanae Vitae. Clearly.
      The principle purpose of the letter by Paul Paul VI was to preserve human reproduction as a result of an intensional act of love between a man and a woman, married, and not to be handed over to government. You may recall that China was implementing the one-child policy in the 1960.
      2) Tim Ball did not read or understand Pope Francis’ June18th Encyclical either. Clearly.
      Francis repudiated population control as scapegoating the poor.
      http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Blog/3962/Pope_Francis_blasts_abortion_population_control_in_new_encyclical.aspx
      Tim, you are at risk of injuring your own credibility by saying things that are not true about things you have not made the effort to become familiar about. How could you say the opposite of the truth and have people take you seriously?
      Tim Ball, wrong… really wrong this time… again.

  2. Besides, Catholics reject the church view on birth control

    That is certainly true for forms of contraception. The dissonance in congregants lies in abortion.
    I think it is para 120 of the Encyclical where the Pontiff lays out the absolute position of the Church on abortion. So when the Environmental Left cites the Encyclical, they do so with chosen parts. A form of Cherrypicking favored text, and ignoring disfavored texts within a single (in?)coherent document.

    • The “Environmental Left” cherrypicking? Heaven forfend! Next you will accuse them of “adjusting” or “Dowdifying” the text.

  3. Excellent piece as always by Tim Ball. The irony is that education and economic development is the path to population control by humane means. The path favoured by radical environmentalists likely results in population control by famine, pestilence and war.

  4. Anyone with just a small dose of common sense can see right through the lies that is global warming. It has always been and always will be about politics and control. The heart of man is desperately wicked.

    • John July 5, 2015 at 3:01 pm: I hate to seem censorious here, but I think, if you actually counted, you would find that the hearts of some men are desperately wicked, and the hearts of most men are not educated in any way to fight such wicked hearts in any meaningful way. One of the philosophical problems with polarized debate is that it makes us forget the real issues; it makes us forget that we can sweep corruption out of office with a ballot; it makes us forget that the people with the most to lose believe they have no horse in the race; and it makes us forget that given the state of public and private education in this country, it is unlikely that any parties (legislators, lobbyists, and voters) will ever know enough to sort out the existing mess, including identifying which aspects are misrepresented on all sides, without massive push-back against the political status quo, and a return to the days of quality education (yes, I realize there were no days of universal quality education to get back to, but even in the poor little town in California where I grew up, I got a first-rate public education followed by a state scholarship in the ’50’s and ’60’s. In those days, public education cost a pretty penny, but was considered to be worth it; nowadays, public education is “communism”, and funded at the lowest possible rate, with not unexpected results.

  5. Another great essay by Dr. Tim Ball. Thanks for the work. It was a walk down memory lane for some of us of a certain age.
    I think I could only add that the unifying theme is power. Various groups want to increase their power over others and they have found environmentalism as a good vehicle in their pursuit of power.
    “The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” ~~ H. L. Mencken

  6. The Encyclical doesn’t endorse population reduction or, for that matter, birth control as issues.
    It does take the idea that sea level rise is going to be hard for the world’s poor to cope with and so is immoral for the rich to ignore.
    The science is weak but he ethics not so.
    Even the Guardian worked out that the Pope wasn’t an asset to their Green Cause.

    • sea level rise is going to be hard for the world’s poor to cope with and so is immoral for the rich to ignore.
      ==========
      poverty is going to be hard for the world’s poor to cope with. a whole lot harder than sea level rise, as not a whole lot of poor people can afford waterfront property, but most every poor person can afford poverty.
      How can morality be a product of how much money you have? Is it OK to steal for example if you are poor, but not if you are rich? What if the person you are stealing from is also poor?
      If it immoral for the rich to ignore poverty, it is equally immoral for the poor to ignore poverty. What is truly immoral is to preach a message that leads to poverty.

      • Well said.
        The Catholic Church has consistently promoted poverty and suffering as good in and of themselves. Its doctrine goes beyond claiming that “the poor ye will have with ye alway”, to claiming that poverty is good and better than becoming rich.
        To keep its scam and protection racket going, the Church, like the US Democrat Party, needs to make ever more victims.

      • Seconded, well said.
        “The science is weak but the ethics not so.”
        ======
        Ferdberple, thanks for succinctly showing that the ethics is also weak.

    • M Courtney you are correct. Tim Ball is reading is own versions of both encyclicals digested through the bowels of the the deliriously hating. Ball has utterly lost his mind on this.

  7. There is a lot of inter-related stuff in his musings….
    … don’t fence (poor) people out … gated communities are bad?
    … air conditioning facilitates development … development is bad … don’t use air conditioning?
    Politicians are good at saying/writing things that will be interpreted in different ways depending on the bias of the audience. Does the church (and by church I mean its members, clergy, leadership, & potentially God) really want a true politician as its leader?

    • In one part of his encyclical, the Pope complains about how much food we throw out. But if his desire to ban air conditioning and refrigeration came to pass, how much more food would be wasted before it could even get to market? The cost of fresh food would necessarily skyrocket, especially in cities where the poor tend to live. Milk, a primary food for small children, does not grow on trees, nor does it last long without refrigeration. I have to wonder if the Pope considered any of the unintended consequences that would occur if he got his wish.

      • The “issue” of food waste crops up pretty regularly, and it is pretty idiotic. Its sole function is to cause guilt, basically for living in a prosperous country. If people waste their own food, then they are throwing their own money away. So what? It’s their money. Some of the food waste is on the production or storage side, but that is up to industry to fix, where possible. Some perfectly good food does get thrown out, but the issue is how to get that food to those who might be able to use it.

      • his desire to ban air conditioning and refrigeration
        ==================
        The Pope is truly a man for the ages. The Middle Ages.
        Why ban only air conditioning and refrigeration? Heating and cooking also takes huge amounts of energy.
        Think of how much energy we could save going without clothes in the tropics, eating raw food naturally warmed by the sun. As global warming kicks into high gear, we could all go sans clothes. In colder climes, a hair shirt will suffice.
        Truly the Pope has the recipe for Living the Good Life on our macrobiotic diet of raw rice, wheat and potatoes. Free from the worries that come with air conditioning and refrigeration. Content in the knowledge that that anything we need can be answered through prayer to God; the universal free pizza delivery service.

      • Loius H
        About 50% of the food grown in Africa is lost before someone can eat it. I’d say that is an example of what happens when refrigeration, infrastructure and pest control are largely absent. If the money wasted opposing the unlikely prospect of human-induced global warming had been spent on infrastructure and education in Africa, neo-Malthusians would go the way of the dodo.
        The food problem was and is not about supply, it was and remains about access.
        I feel my personal responsibility is to maintain a dialogue space where the whole truth is always available. Consultations should always include it. We can’t make perfect people but we can create perfect opportunities, again and again.

      • Obama recently advised *us* to eat food that was past it’s use-by date so as not to waste food.
        Isn’t it charming how the Glorious Leaders look after us? I wonder how many chefs looked after the Obama family (and their friends and retinue) during their separate vacations on opposite sides of the globe?

    • Absolutely, Don. These politicians definitely do NOT practice what they preach; thus, they’re hypocrites. They changed the term “global warming” to “climate change” in an effort to fool the people; but the people aren’t zombies; they can feel heat and cold.
      The main contributor to the world’s climate’s not human activity; it’s the Sun. To narrow down the Sun’s major impact on Earth’s climate is this: the more sunspots the Sun has on its surface, the warmer the global climate; the less sunspots it has on its surface, the cooler the global climate. The climate hasn’t warmed in 18 years now; it has mostly remained the same – up to the winter of 2014-15, when temps dropped by .36%. Even NASA has admitted as such.

  8. Although not usually articulated, the actions of government and the various “-isms” of today (environmentalism, feminism, etc.) have several effects in common. They diminish the potency of the traditional power centers like religion, family, and local government, and shift it to a more central government system. The other effect is to reduce population. They use the language of science, religion, and logic to tell us it’s for the good of the planet, the community, the children, equality, etc., but it’s really all about the shift of power to a central (ultimately worldwide) government and reduction of the human population. That’s not to say that overpopulation is not a problem. It’s just that telling someone you can’t have children wouldn’t be very popular. So it’s hidden in statements like, “You deserve to have a choice if you want this baby or not.” Or, “Don’t you want to do something important with you life rather than be stuck at home with diapers and an oppressive spouse?” The language is seductive on a personal level, especially to the young. But the net effects all seem to lead to an ever more powerful central government with continued erosion of individual liberty, and decreased population.

    • The policies that the left fight for the most have one thing in common, they’re harmful to human life.
      Pro birth control
      Pro abortion
      Pro euthenasia
      Pro (sterile) homosexuality
      Anti (fertile) heterosexuality
      Anti GMO rice and wheat
      Anti pesticide use
      Anti fertilizer use
      Anti DDT
      Anti refrigeration
      Anti fossil fuels
      Anti CO2
      Anti vaccines
      Anti development
      And the harder they’ve tried to “perfect” human society with their totalitarian regimes, the more people they’ve outright slaughtered.

      • “And the harder they’ve tried to “perfect” human society with their totalitarian regimes, the more people they’ve outright slaughtered”
        Well said, Larry!

  9. I spent way too much of my time trying to think of a reasoned reply.
    And came up with this:
    Trying to change my baser instincts is gonna be tough, inspirational talks generally wear off after about 37 minutes (unfortunately).
    There are only a very few people who’s opinion I’ll take to heart, and none of them live in Rome.
    /

  10. The Roman Church has made opposition to birth control a central tenet and now they are stuck with it. People also obey the laws of supply and demand. When the supply of people is below the demand then people are valuable and treated as such. When the demand exceeds the supply not only do such things as worker rights go out the window but opposition to wars also declines.

    • Joel, “When the demand exceeds the supply not only do such things as worker rights go out the window but opposition to wars also declines.”
      When the demand for labor exceeds the supply of labor, wages and workers’ bargaining position improves… Workers’ rights don’t go out the window, their standard of living increases…
      It’s Statists’ control over the economy through labor laws, excessive rules and regulations, anti-trust laws, taxation, etc., that increases the costs of labor, thus decreasing the demand for labor and leads to higher unemployment, uncompetitiveness and decreased standards of living.
      Governments should only be involved in protecting individuals’ natural rights to life, liberty and property, which is basically the ONLY legitimate function that governments should have. Governments should only exist to SERVE the people, now it’s people that serve the government, which is tyranny…
      The free markets and free people are perfectly capable of deciding when new energy sources are viable. The market is telling wind and solar that their technology is too expensive, diffuse, intermittent, unreliable and inefficient to exist, which is why governments must subsidize them… Without wind/solar subsidies, wind and solar companies would not exist….
      Eventually, new technologies like Thorium Molten Salt Reactors or Compact Fusion Reactors will completely replace fossil fuels as these new technologies will be cheaper, cleaner, unlimited, efficient, have very high energy densities, etc….
      Just let the free market determine when and what new technologies are adopted to replace fossil fuels rather than some feckless government hacks in Washington DC or Paris.

      • But how? How do we get rid of the Statists?
        Universal suffrage doesn’t work, it is obvious.
        We need to make the State work like a corporation, where only those who contribute to the society can vote, where there’s a lot of vertical mobility, where every “government service” is paralleled with an out-of-pocket “pay-per-service” opt-out. This “corporate state” wouldn’t be perfect, of course, but it would be much better than the current self-perpetuating majority of parasites. However, only a catastrophe, a total disillusionment in the existing system, could provide necessary conditions. Nobody wants a catastrophe. Therefore, it is very unlikely that we will see any radical improvement during our lifetime.

      • Alexander– The ONLY way to rid the world of Statist regimes is for citizens to establish a Constitutional which lists the limited powers the government can spend money on…
        Even a limited-governent Constitution doesn’t assure Statism will not evolve if the Courts make rulings which change/reinterpret the meaning and intent of the Constitution, as we’re seeing in the US…
        The US Constitution worked from 1793 to about 1890 and enabled the freest and fasting growing economy the world has ever seen.
        After the Sherman anti-trust law was passed, Capitalism and the rule of low effectively ended in the US. The establishment of income taxes and the Federal Reserve in 1913 pretty much drove a stake through the heart of America’s Constitutional Republic…
        I guess more important than a Constitution is a universal and fundamental philosophy of a country that holds no man has the right to live off the property earned by another and that no man or government has the right to initiate force against another individual.

      • How do we get rid of the Statists?
        I suggest we should implement an intelligence test at the voting booth, which questions such as:
        1. Is professional wrestling real or fake?
        2. If your car says Dodge on the front of it, do you really need a horn?
        3. Why is it called lipstick if you can still move your lips?
        4. etc.

      • Samurai–There are over 4000 products made out of petroleum and its derivatives. We will NEVER replace carbon-based fuels because they will NEVER run out—constantly produced by the NUCLEAR REACTOR we sit on. Are these devices going to power planes? Maybe a millennia from now. I suggest you read https://www.fauxscienceslayer.com to understand the science—-or just fall on your SWORD!!

    • me thinks you got your last sentence reversed: Supply >> demand = human life is cheap.

    • Workers rights never go out of fashion, after all every single worker is also a person.
      What is going out of fashion is the attempt to generate new rights out of whole cloth. There never was a right to the job of your choice at the wage of your own choosing.

  11. I been hearing about population control since the 70’s But, it goes back to the Fabian Society and their madness to control and power to do it with. Co2 and over population is nothing more than a way to justify the means to grow governments and the new State Capitalism. I believe end game is one world government. Just think, five hundred years from now there may be Hunger Games fallowed by Star wars.

  12. Hi Tim, thought provoking article. Thanks for all the efforts you go to, to write all this up and share. I noticed a finer point on the quote from Timothy. The love of money is ‘a’ root of all kinds of evil … not ‘the’ root. Not that it matters much in the overall intent of your article, but it certainly matters in the general sense.

    • Not according to the King James version; the root of all evil, not a root of all kinds.
      Neither version represents reality, but we all love a good platitude.

      • “A root” is correct, since in none of the surviving texts is there a definite article before Ῥίζα (rhiza, root). For example:
        RP Byzantine Majority Text 2005
        Ῥίζα γὰρ πάντων τῶν κακῶν ἐστὶν ἡ φιλαργυρία· ἧς τινὲς ὀρεγόμενοι ἀπεπλανήθησαν ἀπὸ τῆς πίστεως, καὶ ἑαυτοὺς περιέπειραν ὀδύναις πολλαῖς.
        Also the “kinds” is implied. πάντων τῶν κακῶν literally reads “of all of the of evils” (genitive case, plural).

      • Since I don’t know Greek, ancient or modern, I should defer, but not yet!
        Since ancient Greek had definite articles but not much of an indefinite article, can you assure me that the omission of any and all articles would favour the modern translation?
        Is it really correct to infer ‘kinds’ because of the case of the article?
        Articles and adjectives match case with their nouns.

      • Dr. Ball did speak of checking context. Here’s a bit of the immediate context.
        6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
        7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
        8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
        9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
        10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. {erred: or, been seduced}
        11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
        (1Ti 6:6-11 KJV)
        Keeping the remoter context in mind, money or just the love of the dollar can’t be the root of ALL evil.
        The “tree of the knowledge of good and evil” wasn’t “The Money Tree”. “Money” didn’t exist then. (Go back a few verses before what I quoted.)
        The point of verse 10 is that those in verse 9 are “playing with fire”. 😎

      • mebbe
        July 5, 2015 at 8:03 pm
        Because the author of Timothy (who could not have been Paul, but was a late first to mid-second century writer) did not use the definite article (“the”), the best English translation is with an implied “a”. Had he meant to say “the root”, he could and presumably would have written it that way.

      • The “kinds” is implied because otherwise the genitive case τῶν (“of the”) applies to nothing. It’s not needed unless there is an implied noun to which “of the” applies, because there is already πάντων (“of all”) and κακῶν (of evils). So that, as noted, a literal translation would be “of all of the (?) of evils”.

      • For anyone still following this post I’d like to add that, “I Timothy 6:9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.” is about those that will to be rich, not just those who are. Maybe they are rich and maybe they are not rich. But that is their drive.

  13. “The public understands the fundamentals of population dynamics better than the complexities of climate,” the author states. I think scientist the same..

  14. If you think population is a problem, and we can’t grow exponentially for long, then raise the standard of living and watch the birth rate drop. Works in all races, cultures and religions it has been tried in. So what do you need to raise the standard of living? Lots of inexpensive energy. What are they trying to ban with their OCD CO2 nonsense? Lots of inexpensive energy. So they want their cake and to eat it too. Time for a reality check folks.

    • TRM, the reality is that with 7 billion people on this planet, there is no longer any “inexpensive energy” It has recently got very expensive, and as the population grows, it most certainly isn’t going to get any cheaper.

      • TRM, the reality is that with 7 billion people on this planet, there is no longer any “inexpensive energy” It has recently got very expensive, and as the population grows, it most certainly isn’t going to get any cheaper.

        False. The CAGW religion is forcing those artificially high energy prices. Oil in particular is more than 2/3 government “fees” and taxes.

      • ” artificially high energy prices”

        You used to be able to sink a well, and the oil reservoir’s pressure let the crude flow on it’s own. Today, not only do we need to drill, we have to frack to get the oil.
        ..
        You used to be able to sink a well down a few thousand feet and get crude. Today, you have to go down two miles.

        Don’t care about taxes and fees, the capital costs to produce a barrel of oil today (adjusted for inflation) is much higher than they were in the past.
        ..
        And it’s not going to get cheaper as it gets harder and harder to find new reserves.

        “Cheap energy” is a thing of the past.

      • Joel,
        Don’t you ever get tired of being wrong, often because you fail to make the simplest searches?
        A gallon of gas in 1945, a lifetime ago, cost 21 cents. Adjusted for inflation, that’s $2.77 today, even though the rigged CPI grossly understates inflation.
        Guess what today’s AAA average gas price is.
        $2.767.

      • Joel,
        So on your planet production costs are not reflected in product prices?
        Why am I not surprised?
        The fact is that energy is less expensive now than in the past, and would be even more so but for idiotic government policies.

      • “So on your planet production costs are not reflected in product prices?”

        You crack me up. Does your portfolio lack shares in the major oil companies? The profitability of these companies has plummeted recently or have you not noticed? You know why? Because they’re having difficulty with the price of oil. They’re taking a hit…….why? …. because in some cases they are selling their product for less than it costs them to produce it.
        ..
        See, your problem is that you’re looking at short term prices instead of looking at the long term.

      • “Guess what today’s AAA average gas price is.
        $2.767.”

        ….
        That reminds me of Senator Inhofe bringing a snowball onto the Senate floor.

        Quoting today’s average price is the same as saying “it’s cold outside, that proves global warming isn’t happening” I guess you forgot what the price of a gallon of gas was two years ago.

      • Joel D. Jackson
        July 5, 2015 at 7:13 pm
        I am looking at the long term.
        The fact is the world is awash in petrochemicals and hydrocarbons in general, and this happy state will continue indefinitely.
        As T. Boone is fond of saying, “Nothing solves high energy prices faster than high energy prices.”
        Why am I not surprised that I have to explain elementary economics to you?

      • Here’s a simple lesson for you in oil economics.

        It costs more to frack a well than to not frack one.
        ..
        See?

        Please tell me know if this is too complex for you to understand.

      • “Proved reserves keep growing every year:”

        Proved reserves are a function of the price of a barrel of crude.

        It is not a measure of the physical quantity of oil in the ground.

      • Joel,
        The Bakken field companies are being driven out of business, in case you haven’t noticed. Crude is much cheaper now that a year ago and likely to stay that way for quite some time.
        The oil market is perturbed by idiotic government regulations, or energy would be even cheaper than at present. WTI is costlier than need be because we can’t export it, and Brent artificially higher than the market would price it.
        The stubborn facts keep getting in the way of your various delusions.

      • Joel D. Jackson
        July 5, 2015 at 7:41 pm
        It’s a function of a number of things, but this discussion followed from your false, baseless assertion as to the expensiveness or inexpensiveness of energy.
        The indisputable fact is that energy is getting cheaper, not more expensive, is liable to continue doing so at least until cheap, sweet, light Gulf crude is all gone, and would be even more so but for idiotic government policies designed to make energy more costly.

      • “WTI is costlier than need be because we can’t export it,”

        Gee, if we exported it, it would reduce the supply.
        If you reduce the supply doesn’t that increase the price?

      • Why the focus on gas and oil? Nigeria and South Africa are sitting on top of huge coal deposits and have access to a lot of cheap labor to mine it. Help them build coal-burning power plants to supply Africa with CHEAP dependable electricity and their economies will take off. When that happens, the birth rates will plummet.

    • What raises the standard of living? I would argue that good government is more essential than inexpensive energy.

      • You think Sweden has no liberty?
        You think Norway has no liberty?
        You think England has no liberty?
        You think Germany has no liberty?

        Wow…..I didn’t realize you have a warped view of “liberty”

      • Not warped, just a fact.
        My definition of liberty is the same as that for all libertarians, ie that socialism is necessarily slavery to the state.

      • “The price of gas today is a direct measure of how cheap or expensive energy is.”

        Too funny!!!!!

        You want me to believe that Saudi Arabia’s attempt to quash the facking revolution, and maintain market share is not manipulation of the market?

        Get real….. the laws of supply and demand go out the window when the big boyz start flexing their muscles.

      • ” socialism is necessarily slavery to the state.”

        Good.

        The next time you take a drive on the “socialistic” roads we have, please make sure you ask permission from the slave master first.

      • Joel– You wrote, “The next time you take a drive on the “socialistic” roads we have, please make sure you ask permission from the slave master first.”
        Socialism is a philosophical construct, it’s not simply the government spending money…..
        Under Capitalism/a Constitutional Republic, INDIVIDUAL citizens may freely grant the government the power to build roads with their taxes, but that doesn’t mean road building is an example of “Socialism”…..
        Statism (of which Socialsm is just one manifestation) is the philosophical construct that the State has ultimate authority to spend money on whatever it likes, regardless of whether or not individual citizens have granted that power to the State….
        In Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution, the Federal government was granted the right to build interstate roads, accordingly, road building isn’t an example of Socialism as individual citizens gave that power to the Federal government.
        Under a free Constitutional Republic, individual citizens only gave the Federal Government 18 simple tasks to perform…. Any task performed outside these 18 powers is an example of Statism, as the power to perform such tasks was not granted to the government to perform them…
        BTW, it IS unconstitutional for the Federal Government to provide public funds for Intrastate roads, bridges, etc…. American citizens ONLY gave the government the power to build Interstate roads….
        Only Individual States have the power to build intrastate roads….
        See how that works?

      • Joel– You wrote:
        You think Sweden has no liberty?
        You think Norway has no liberty?
        You think England has no liberty?
        You think Germany has no liberty?
        Scandinavian countries, England, Germany, US, etc. now have MUCH less liberty than they once had…
        For example, in the 1900’s, TOTAL government spending in performing the 18 tasks the Constitution allowed only cost tax payers 7% of GDP…
        Now, US: Federal, State and rules and regulation compliance costs amount to 50+% of GDP. The vast majority of government spending or forced compliance costs are unconstitutional, regardless of Supreme Court rulings that ruled otherwise…
        No government has the right to spend money without the consent of individual citizens.
        Morally, the government does not have the right to steal from one group and give to another group without the consent of individuals, which pretty much covers all Federal Welfare programs. If someone is UNABLE to work, then citizens of the LOCAL COMMUNITY (not the state) may voluntarily provide charity for that person, but if someone is simply UNWILLING to work, then it is not the moral responsibility of others or the state to take care of that person….
        Life is not always “fair”.

      • To which I should add that England isn’t a Socialist country. First of all, it’s ‘Britain’ not England, and secondly, we haven’t had a Socialist government for over five years and, as I reported on here a few days ago, the only Socialist political party we have (the Labour Party) is dying on its feet. NO country has ‘liberty’. No American should think that they really have liberty – they don’t. There are just shades of it.

      • All these countries including the United States have less liberty. None of these countries are anywhere near a socialist state and their standard of living is dependant on the free market. Some people value liberty over a mixed system that others argue its better. Real socialist states have all been nightmares Imo. Just look at the list on wiki.

      • Govt lowers the standard of living, it does not raise it
        This country grew much faster when we had a much smaller govt.
        Around the world, large govts are associated with poverty, not wealth.

      • Joel, in socialist countries you only have those liberties that the govt permits you to have. And you only have those liberties so long as you behave as your masters require.

      • The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley:
        You say

        First of all, it’s ‘Britain’ not England, and secondly, we haven’t had a Socialist government for over five years and, as I reported on here a few days ago, the only Socialist political party we have (the Labour Party) is dying on its feet.

        Yes, you did make that silly assertion a few days ago. It was ignored because it was too ridiculous to bother refuting, but if you intend to keep asserting the falsehood then it needs to be stated as being a falsehood.
        There is no indication of any kind that the Labour Party “is dying on its feet”.
        In the recent (i.e. in May) General Election the Tories won an overall majority of 331 seats with 37% of the popular vote, while Labour obtained only 232 seats with 31% of the popular vote.
        UKIP beat the LibDems by winning 13% of the popular vote while the LibDems only won 8% of the popular vote. However, the geographical distributions of their votes provided UKIP with only 1 seat while the LibDems won 8 seats.
        The geographical distribution of UKIP votes gave the Tories an overall majority of seats. The SNP won 59 Scottish seats that had been held by Labour and this gave the Tories a larger number of seats than Labour. UKIP took more votes from Labour than from the Tories in the Midlands and, thus, provided an overall majority to the Tories by providing seats to the Tories.
        Labour is choosing a new Leader and intends to regroup to regain the needed additional 6% of the popular vote to form the next government. The easiest way to regain those votes is for Labour to recover votes it lost to UKIP.
        The right-wing UKIP hopes to promote the falsehood that Labour “is dying on its feet” in attempt to hang-on to votes UKIP took from Labour in the General Election.
        Richard

      • I always find it amusing when anything the Feds do with the money collected from people who believe they will never owe the level of taxes assessed is labelled as “socialist”. Why do so many in this Christian country steadfastly forget that John the Baptist was most likely an Essene (communist) evangelist, whose follower Jesus of Nazareth became; nor that the early church described by St. Paul, on whatever continent (Asia, Africa, Europe), “enjoyed” the mandatory sacrifices and societal benefits which the abjuration of personal property rights was seen to bring to the fellowship–and Paul made sure that names were named in the Epistles to shame the economic deviants who just couldn’t let go. It seems to me that either John, Jesus, and Paul were right (Of course, I am my brother’s keeper!), in which case “communism” perfectly formed (different discussion? /sarc) is an intrinsic aspect of Christianity perfectly formed; or they were right at the time, for first-century Jews living in a Hellenized province ruled by Pharisees and Sadducees on the one hand, and the Roman Prefect and state on the other, but wrong for us, and their economic model has become obsolete, which would imply that the bulk of Jesus’s teachings dealt with no-longer-important aspects of secular life, indicating that the commune cannot solve our problems as it was intended to solve those of the First Century (this kind of thinking does have a “slippery slope” sort of feeling about it). Or did God speak to those 3 leaders exactly as they have passed on to us, but He didn’t want us in America to listen, because the American system is inherently better than Jesus’s, and He just didn’t know anything about it at the time (notwithstanding His being omniscient and immortal).
        Having said this, I must state that in terms of the role of the Federal Government, I favor appropriate, rational, and measured action wherever voluntary action can be shown to be unlikely, inadequate, or dysfunctional (again, after appropriate, rational, and measured debate) to solve a demonstrated and commonly accepted problem. I won’t see the 3 Branches functioning this way in my lifetime, alas. I just don’t believe that every societal action is by definition socialist and to be avoided at all cost, nor that every resource recognized as communally held has already been “taken” as an automatic result of that recognition. I would emphasize, however, that I also do not believe that communism can be instituted in a “perfectly formed” manner, any more than most other Americans do. My point is not that “Jesus was a communist and we should be, too;” rather it is that actions that aim to further the welfare of Society, though social (shared, common) in nature and potentially of social benefit, are not necessarily “socialist” in the most pejorative senses of that word (e.g. Marxist-Leninist or Maoist)–i.e., most of the issues we try to control are of little interest to actual Communists, while many of the things the Communists wish to control involve aspects of life that .
        And last, having said all of this, I end with the suggestion that at least some (well, many, in fact) boneheaded actions taken by the past several administrations can perfectly well have been truly moronic without being Communistic, or at least might be called accidentally or incidentally Socialistic. And even if they have economic implications of a Statist flavor, they are undertaken in the name of science and salvation (verbally, such that American voters hear the labels but no substance), so they must be fought on those terms. They tell us We are destroying the planet, and that They can save it; they are lying about both things, but calling any given aspect of the Cause’s message Statist, Socialist, or Communist, or trying to convey that any specific claim in question is communism in an environmental cloak, makes it very difficult to focus on the utter incoherence of the “anti-AGW movement” (which is how climatism is viewed by the fact-insouciant). It is also unfair to real Communists, who are obviously taking the Western climate circus no more seriously than we would a 5-year plan that dictated exactly 15,234,345 new vehicles be built in the next quarter, of which types and which colors, etc., for the use of the 237,150 inhabitants of a poor rural district with no paved roads. Boneheaded? Of course. Communist? Of course. Science-based? Well, it can be argued that most of those cars will be 0-Emission because there is no fuel for them, so the mandate is Environmentally Friendly. But Communists are not environmentally friendly, so–what? Head hurt with the labels and the cognitive dissonance?

      • SAMURAI
        July 5, 2015 at 10:42 pm
        I concur.
        The federal regime should not do what state governments can do, either by themselves or in concert; states should not do what local governments can do; local governments should not do what private associations can do; private associations shouldn’t do what families and individuals can and should do for themselves.
        Jefferson was right to observe that that government is best which governs least.
        As has been noted, the US is on the path to serfdom of Old Europe, with more freedom eroded every year. However there remains one highly significant right in which America still leads, ie we are an armed citizenry.
        Liberty means self-government, ie the sovereignty not of the state but of the person. Liberty has been decaying in the US at least since 1913 and arguably earlier, by fits and starts, but lately in a cascade.

      • Joel D. Jackson
        July 5, 2015 at 7:28 pm
        Where do you suppose governments get the money to build roads?
        The proper way to finance “internal improvements” is through bonds. Those who buy the bonds are paid back by tolls on the bridges, roads or other infrastructure paid by their users.
        That is not government but people deciding to bond themselves to pay for things they think they need.
        No socialists need apply.

      • Richard,
        IMO the most endangered party is not Labour but the LibDems.
        If the UK stays together, then Labour could well return to power at some future date, in coalition with the national socialists of the SNP.
        If however England and Wales vote to leave the EU while Scotland votes to stay in it in the promised referendum, then the UK could well unravel, despite the previous 55-45% vote by Scots to remain in Great Britain. In that case, Labour would IMO be in danger of permanent minority status (if still not dying out) in a reduced UK of England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

    • Your analogy, if I may so dignify it, could not possibly be more false.
      The price of gas today is a direct measure of how cheap or expensive energy is.
      Unless you imagine that as soon as winter turns to summer and vice versa energy will suddenly become expensive, thus fulfilling your fantasy, uour false assertion that “inexpensive energy” has ended is easily shown laughably wrong.
      Besides which the good senator’s object lesson was apt, since CACCA claimed that snow would become a thing of the past by now.

      • Only on your planet. He’s a senator and you’re not. He influences energy policy and you don’t.
        If there is no C for catastrophic, then what’s the problem? If man-made global warming actually exists, for which there is zero evidence and all the evidence in the world against the hypothesis, but it’s not a bad thing (as indeed it would not be), then why worry and try to ruin the world’s economy fighting it?
        So far more CO2 has been beneficial.

      • “So far more CO2 has been beneficial”

        Science does not assign any value judgements to it’s findings. “Beneficial” is within the realm of ethics, which is a branch of philosophy and not of science.
        ..
        for which there is zero evidence
        ..
        The evidence is abundant and prolific within the scientific community. So much in fact that most of the scientists today accept the AGW hypothesis.

        • Joel D. Jackson commented : “..The evidence is abundant and prolific within the scientific community. So much in fact that most of the scientists today accept the AGW hypothesis.”
          Care to share some of the “evidence”?

      • In all of this back n forth, one think has been overlooked.
        Innovation is born in the free market that values IP. Ben Franklin understood the key value of IP protection via strong patent protection. Socialism though hates IP. But without it, innovations withers to a crawl, only financed by government artificially picking winners and losers.

      • sturgis said: “He’s a senator and you’re not. He influences energy policy and you don’t.”
        No, he doesn’t. He’s an ex Senator, who hasn’t served in the US Senate since 1993, 22 years ago. Whatever influence he exerts on energy policy is from the outside, just as any other external organization (such as WWF or Exxon) tries to exert influence.

      • joelobryan said: “Socialism though hates IP. But without it, innovations withers to a crawl, only financed by government artificially picking winners and losers.”
        Where is socialism in all this? It’s an extreme leap to associate any global agreement on CO2 reduction with socialism. China, for example, is going to roll out a carbon tax in order to encourage a switch to lower carbon energy sources. There is no involvement of the UN or any other international organization. They will issue and retire the certificates within China. This is similar to what the US used in the late 80s and 90s to successfully reduce sulfur dioxide emissions from power plants.

      • Chris
        July 5, 2015 at 8:54 pm
        Inhofe most certainly is a serving senator. The snowball incident to which Joel referred occurred recently.
        You have Inhofe confuses with someone else.

    • The issue of over-population has little to do with Western Democracies. The problem is with the poor countries – in Africa, India, Indonesia, Brazil etc. I’m not sure how turning off an air conditioner in Canada during the summer is going to help the poor in Bangladesh during a monsoon.

  15. How odd…a complete and total contradiction
    ..and more odd that no one around him gagged him

  16. If over population really is the problem, then if the NGO activists, media puppets, local, state, national and UN bureaucrats, the academics, and all their families set the example and reduce themselves, we might be able to make a good start.

  17. That last sentence needs better punctuation…. including some quotation marks. Otherwise, a good read.

  18. “Green Pope Benedict” didn’t appeal to the CAGW “followers”, so he had to make way for the easier-to-sell Francis:
    5 July: Seattle Times: Pope Francis, science and government are reframing climate change
    The papal encyclical and the Lancet Commission report are reframing the climate issue, putting people at its center.
    By Stephen V. Sundborg & Howard Frumkin, Special to The Times
    (Stephen V. Sundborg is a Jesuit priest and president of Seattle University. Howard Frumkin, a public-health physician, is dean of the School of Public Health at the University of Washington.)
    THE long-anticipated encyclical by Pope Francis to the world on the environment was released mid-June. The Lancet Commission, a distinguished United Kingdom-based health body, the following week released its report on health and climate change. The next day, the White House hosted a summit on the same subject. Will this unprecedented alignment of key official voices — religious, scientific and governmental — change the conversation on ecological destruction and whom it impacts?…
    ***He (Pope Francis) holds a unique status today as a moral leader not only of Christians but of all peoples of the world…
    We feel the effects through more severe storms, risks of infectious diseases, food scarcity and more. There is strong evidence that the world’s poor are among the most vulnerable — a common-sense, but often overlooked, fact that Lancet and the encyclical spotlight…
    We know from our work with many university students that environmental justice is their greatest cause…
    It is their equivalent of the civil-rights cause of an earlier generation of university students. They do not need to be converted to environmental justice — we do…
    http://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/pope-francis-science-and-government-are-reframing-climate-change/
    want some Green QE to end the “fuel poverty” at least partly caused by Green CAGW policies?
    2 July: UK New Statesman: Caroline Lucas: We need to invest in a positive, green and socially just future
    The Green MP lays out her proposal for green infrastructure quantitative easing.
    Progress on child poverty, surely a bellwether for good government, has stalled – with one in six children living in poverty. And when we consider how the Government is doing when it comes to keeping children warm in their homes, things look just as bad. Last year, 2.23 million children in England were living in fuel poverty, whilst an estimated 65 people a day die in the UK in winter as a result of illnesses due to cold homes…
    One such alternative offers a route to rebuilding our economy, tackling climate change, and providing decent long terms jobs in every city, town and village across the UK.
    It’s known as Green Infrastructure Quantitative Easing (GIQE), a concept first proposed by the Green New Deal Group and an idea that, if you can get past its unappealing name, basically means investment in a positive green and socially just future.
    GIQE could contribute to strengthening the UK economy via a carefully costed, nationwide programme to train and employ a ‘carbon army’. This army would be at the frontline of the fight against cold homes by making all of the UK’s 30 million buildings energy efficient, and, where feasible, fitted with solar panels. This would, in the first instance, dramatically reduce energy bills and fuel poverty, whilst also cutting greenhouse gas emission and cutting current dependence on imported energy…
    In the case of GIQE, bonds issued by the Green Investment Bank will never need to be repaid…
    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/07/caroline-lucas-we-need-invest-positive-green-and-socially-just-future

  19. The largest problem with the redistribution of wealth, even were one to buy into the concept, is that those targeted to receive the redistributions never get them in any event, as their corrupt governments steal them. Then there is the problem of destruction of the incentive to work. Jesus was not gone long before St. Peter had to write his letter exhorting the new Christians to work if they wanted to eat and not attempt to live off of the largess of others. Invariably, socialist societies have only one true incentive and it is political, the path to the ruling class. Aristocrats are replaced with politbureaus. Interesting that capitalism and socialism seem to both merge into facism with cronyism in both cases providing some free enterprise opportunity while government keeps its thumb on the people, to one degree or another and the political ruling class marches on.

  20. The 20th and 21st centuries have been a battle between two diametrically opposed philosophies of Statism vs. Capitalism.
    Statism believes the State and/or the consensus/collective have the right to control every aspect of an individual rights to life, liberty and property through the barrel of a gun, while Capitalism believes the individual has control over his own life and property through mutual agreement and adherence to the non-initiation of force principal.
    For the past 2 millennia, Statist dictators/monarchs have exploited the Church to legitimized their tyrannical powers over individuals’ rights to life, liberty and property. Most countries (Muslim theocracies being the exception) have learned the lessons of history and imposed strict laws separating the Church and the State.
    That’s why I find it highly ironic that modern Statists (who, in general, hold the Church in contempt) now embrace the Church’s support of CAGW as a means to resurrect the age old practice of exploiting the Church to legitimize State tyranny
    Statism is a completely failed philosophy, as we’re currently witnessing with the collapse of both Greece and CAGW. It’s my hope that men will learn the lessons of history and through the collapse of CAGW, they’ll see through the fallacies of Statism, and embrace their rights to individual freedom and which only Capitalism can assure, and shun the tyranny of Statism once and for all.
    When CAGW collapses, hopefully the Church will quickly admit their error in supporting CAGW and it won’t take 350 years to admit their mistake as was the case with Galileo. Regardless, this CAGW encyclical will end up hurting the Church’s integrity quite severely.

  21. The ironic thing is that the population issue is already solved. Fertility rates in most of the world is now sustainable. We are already at “peak child”, now stable at ~ 2 billion. The ongoing rise is nothing more than the inevitable ‘fill-up’ of adults and population should peak at about 11 billion.

    • How do you know? Do you know that cancer or heart disease won’t be cured or substantially reduced in the next 100 years or so? If they are the life expectancy would greatly increase, and that would lead to a much greater population.

  22. It has been lost on the lot of you that the population problem is identified thus: There are too many Americans. When that problem is solved (We’re being diluted even now by the greatest migration in modern times) there will be too many (pick a population). An so on, until only nation states that cannot be diluted are left and all else will serve them. That is how the liberal utopia ends – with elitists and sheeple. One can imagine a time when weapons of mass destruction will not fall from the skies but be built into the infrastructure of society as a tether to maintain order. I like that it sounds crazy enough to be possible. My thanks to Senator Timothy Wirth and Hans Schellnhuber for the idea.

      • Tom when people refer to Americans in a negative light from other countries they are referring to American born Caucasian males. Never mind Hispanics are the largest ethnic group now. Just thought I’d clear up the political lingo here.

      • They aren’t being imported in order to be come Americans.
        Just listen to La Raza if you want to know what the agenda is.

  23. The common misquote about the love of money is even farther off than you think.
    For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. – 1 Timothy 6:10a (ESV)

  24. I couldn’t see a whole lot of clear evidence that would allow me to trace one foot after the other. I think this is just the mishmash noisy sound of wrong headed thinking in the guise of benevolence. Religous and watermelon types often share this in common: they seem to know what will save us from ourselves. They see very little of what we do that is good for us (in their view), and spend much time telling us what is not good for us. Mixed in the apocalyptic noise is the cacophony of suggestions as to what is good for us.
    Gives me a headache.

    • I feel your pain. Add to this that what’s good for one could be deadly for another.
      The very notion of “the greatest good for the greatest number of people” is totalitarian (fascist) in essence, and leads to misery for all.

  25. The goal of AGW proponents is to destroy Capitalism. Population control, wealth redistribution, climate change, and cleansing the environment, are all sidebars. It was easy to enlist the Environmentalists to ‘the cause’ since they are openly anti human. Cripple energy and you cripple Capitalism. Britain’s aluminum smelters are gone due to carbon taxes and energy cost. Heavy industry produces large amounts of CO2 so control their source of energy and they disappear. An audacious plan being supported by big money and power and being orchestrated by the UN under the guise of Agenda21. Capitalism has always stood in the way of Marxism/Socialism/One World Government type movements and AGW is the bogeyman du jour to get them there. They will fail because people aren’t that submissive when it comes to their standard of living and there are far too many middle class people today that like their lives and won’t drink the kool aid. The EU is the start of the plan. It was easy for the EU to mandate CO2 reductions for all the members but I doubt they’ll be able to force the people to burn down their village to save it.

  26. I don’t think i will ever finish this but the two verses i have done do make a point.
    Pope Francis Sings His Version Of A Famous Religious Song
    Or The New Useful Idiot
    Well, I don’t care if it rains and freezes
    Long as I got my plastic Jesus
    Riding on the dashboard of my car
    Al Gore’s beside Him so I know
    It’s Hell on earth despite the snow
    I’m racing to the global climate war
    It’s Armageddon straight ahead!
    Where poverty is finally dead
    For wealth sets each against all others
    The Covenant within the Ark
    Is best fulfilled by Karl Marx
    Poverty will make us pauper brothers!
    It is this Pope’s twisted reasoning. Doubt if I will finish it but you get the idea.
    Eugene WR Gallun

  27. I thought Acton’s quote worth expanding a bit more:

    I cannot accept your canon that we are to judge Pope and King unlike other men, with a favourable presumption that they did no wrong. If there is any presumption it is the other way, against the holders of power, increasing as the power increases. Historic responsibility has to make up for the want of legal responsibility. Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority, still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it.

    • Thanks, I’ll stick with the CliffsNotes version (for which Lord Acton should consider himself lucky)

      • Well, I’ve not read Creighton’s The Italian Princes (nor am I Roman Catholic), so can’t really judge Acton’s response. But at least he’s not wishy-washy–he offers no apologies for the abuses of authority by his fellow Catholics nor by his fellow aristocrats–and his observations on those abuses are accurate.

    • ‘Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
      =========================================
      IMV power only REVEALS corruption, Having been in a position of leadership and appointing others to leadership, I can say that some, given new leadership/power, immediately displayed abuse of power in disparate manners, while others remained honorable. The corruption was there all along, but only when given power was it revealed. Over time I became better at choosing.
      it should also be pointed out that this quote is in reference to power “over others”, as opposed to power of individual liberty, free choice to live where one wants, work in whatever profession one chooses, own land, etc. It is power over others that is a “necessary evil” to be strictly limited. However, individual power often “reveals” corruption as well. I have seen many a young man destroyed by a well paid job, as the funds went to various vices that ultimately ruined their lives. However these examples have only themselves to blame.
      George Washington is a prime example of one NOT corrupted by power. This great man warned the US citizens that such liberties as were established by the US, could only be successful by a moral people. This deep thought and truth should be, IMV, contemplated a great deal more. Of course, immoral leadership under a central authoritarian government is even worse.

      • The problem is that even good men, when given access to power will tend to get frustrated with the resistance of others, and after a time, start to use the power that they have to eliminate opposition to their goals. After all, they are just trying to help people, if a few unreasonable opponents have to be crushed along the way, so be it.

  28. “Long as I got my plastic Jesus
    Riding on the dashboard of my car”
    brought back old friends, now gone
    thanks

  29. I think if there is any thing that should be tackled are corrupt Govt’s that keep their people in poverty and I note that a lot of them are holding their hands out for money from the wealthy Govt’s through this so called climate warming farce .
    We are capable of feeding every one on this planet with plenty of spare . Educated people do not over populate and I note that my Roman Catholic friends are not interested in what the Pope says about birth control .

  30. Reblogged this on The GOLDEN RULE and commented:
    This article has so many important messages that need publicizing.
    Perhaps this is best highlighted by the following extracts:
    “The latest Encyclical by Pope Francis is a revolutionary document in which it appears Pope Francis decided that overpopulation is a bigger problem than Church doctrine, especially when the increased population is industrialized, developed and prosperous. These are exactly the positions underlying the goals of the UN Agenda 21, the White House, and most other nations. Like them, the Encyclical uses global warming as a front for a political agenda. ……….”
    “These actions explain Wirth’s truncated comment discussed earlier in which the last phrase shows global warming was just a vehicle for the greater objective of population control. ”
    So, for those interested in facts and truths, this is an enlightening article. Another dimension in the debate about all the issues of global warming, the Church view and its attempt to influence the public. (Not because man is “warming the planet dangerously”, but because overpopulation is counterproductive to the future home comforts of the rich”).
    Proof that the alarmist agenda is the major issue, regardless of scientific facts.
    [Bold emphasis above, mine).

  31. Interesting to read the global population meme being discussed so publicly. Some thoughts. Modern birth control is a technological achievement. Shutting down western technology and handing wealth to the poor does not enable the poor to buy technology that is no longer in production. Moving a white goods production factory to the poor nations is fairly straight forward. Moving a science/chemistry research laboratory is not so easy without a technological and educational base already in place.
    As some famous person once said “We live in interesting times.”

    • Yes, but absurd on two points.
      First of all, there is no conspiracy to keep Africa poor, the idea is completely and utterly stupid. Western countries like my own, Britain, have gone out of their way to try and help Africa, but their culture, beliefs and way of life gets in the way of the continent ever taking care of itself. They are incapable, and forever reliant on other nations to help them.
      Secondly, almost any action that doesn’t directly serve them is a ‘racist’ one, according to may of them I have spoken to. Racism exists, I’m not denying that, but the race card is used over and over. Black people always gloss over the racism that comes from black on white, as well.

      • They say that they want to help the Africans, and a few of them probably do believe that they are helping them. But in reality their “help” is what is hurting the Africans.
        First by exporting socialism to them, second by providing aid that destroys the local economy and further makes the locals dependant on govt and aid.

  32. “A less controversial argument was that the climate wars had little or nothing to do with science – it was all about politics, which is to say power and money. That was never a minority viewpoint but I think it’s a journey that a lot of newly converted skeptics go on. Some skeptics are welded to the “point out the flaws in the science” approach and they’ll do a few mea culpas and amend their ways, as well as retracting all those crap papers. That’s never once happened.”
    https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2015/06/26/there-can-be-no-doubt-now/
    Pointman

  33. You are wrong about the policy behind global warming action groups. They do not want socialism they actually have openly stated they want a return to what they see as benevolent feudalism. This requires poor access to transport for the masses ensured buy a costly energy policy. This means they are then forced to work for the local land owner who of course would be the wealthy celebrities as well as the existing aristocracy who currently are the greatest buyers of land.
    Of course the benevolent part would rapidly disappear at the very first sign of the shortages that inevitably occur in even the tiniest downturns in what without cheap energy is a marginal existence.

  34. Would it be possible to have an edit facility please? The buy instead of by was the result of cutting out a bit and leaving the wrong by. Sorry about that.

  35. ‘it appears Pope Francis decided that overpopulation is a bigger problem than Church doctrine, especially when the increased population is industrialized, developed and prosperous’
    Actually the indstrialisation and prosperity was- and is transient for the majority. Automation using robots is restoring poverty in cities rather than on the land of pre-industrial feudalism. Automation excludes huge numbers from wealth creation and concentrates it in far fewer hands.
    If you want to promote capitalism you have to face this and explain why replacing humans with robots is not economic genocide. I’m not saying it is, I’m saying it MIGHT be.
    Thing with capitalism is that the worst morals can make the most money sometimes. If that happens, quoting the bible is for the birds. You ether lower your moral standards or regulate capitalism. Your choice as morally upstanding capitalists.
    I personally put creating stable conditions for stable families to survive and thrive higher than any economic theory. So should all Americans if you believe in ‘the pursuit of happiness’. Your nation was founded to pursue happiness, not money, after all. Are you telling me that there is a greater happiness on earth than seeing your children grow up happy and inspired to give the same to their children??
    Do you believe that the only way to achieve happiness is via Neoliberal economics??
    If so, why???

  36. The pope’s encyclical just didn’t make sense from a scientific viewpoint, so I couldn’t work out what on earth was the point of it until I realised that the encyclical wasn’t about climate, but instead climate was just being used a thin veneer to justify a whole raft of political actions.
    But unfortunately, those political actions are as economically incompetent as the science is scientifically incompetent.
    The climate is certainly being used for political ends.

  37. It is certainly political but a search for more power over the believers. Past times people were poorly educated and under developed so leant on the Church for guidance and comforf Now in Western countries people are educated and prosperous and have less reliance on the Church so believer numbers are falling. So the Church, through this Encyclical, must act.
    Thanks Tim.

  38. There is an evil spirit behind the environmental movement that wants to kill all humans. It may be invisible, but it’s not transparent; it’s very plain for all to see, for those with eyes to see.

  39. Tim, the population issue is as flimsy as the CO2 issue. The UN Population Survey’s “Low Fertility Band” (version 3 of its spreadsheet) is the only one that’s been close to accurate for decades, and it projects a peak, then decline, at about 8bn in the 2040s. Back <7bn by 2100.

  40. This essay, like numerous other ones, points out that the whole “anthropogenic global warming” hogwash is really all about both politics and religion. Those two boil down to power. This is all about power over people and trying to drive the vast majority into poverty. Energy poverty.

  41. Anthony Watts, James Delingpole, Richard Fernandez and Burt Rutan are cited on the back of the dust cover of David Archbald’s book Twilight of Abundance available at all the usual places on the web.
    Anyone addressing the issue of population might want to review this book. There are many nations whose agricultural fails to produce enough food to feed their populations. Archibald points out the danger to the world’s food is cooling. It’s really, really simple math. Move the latitudes just a small bit and the grain producing belts start disappearing.
    What’s interesting is both the melting-down-the-poles and the solar-grand-minimum-glaciation folks reach the same conclusion. Imho, the alarmists are simply wildly wrong in their analysis and their methods for solution of spreading misery and death to solve a problem they’re hiding. Call them sneaky .

  42. Tim Ball points out, quite rightly, that some sayings are frequently misquoted. He then says:
    “Catholics reject the church view on birth control as the statistics indicate.”
    Now the members of the Catholic Church are found all over the world. That’s what ‘catholic’ means: universal. So when Tim Ball says, “Catholics reject the church view on birth control” and does not qualify the statement in any way it would be reasonable to assume that he is claiming that Catholics across the world reject the church view on birth control. He then claims to have evidence to back up this claim about what Catholics believe. But all that his statistics do is to refer to a survey carried out in the USA. So, at best all he can do is to claim that the majority of Catholics in the USA (who are a relatively small minority of all Catholics) reject the Church’s teaching. I suppose that it’s a good example of the old adage about ‘lies, dammed lies and statistics.” But somebody whose use of statistics is so sloppy should not really be writing articles for publication on this website.

    • Catholics of my acquaintance in Latin America, including my wife, also use birth control. They must likewise do so in Europe, given its low birth rate.
      Not a statistically significant sample, I know.

  43. A slight redo
    Pope Francis Sings His Version Of A Famous Religious Song
    or The New Useful Idiot
    I don’t care if it rains and freezes
    Long as I got my plastic Jesus
    Riding on the dashboard of my car
    I’m driving fast to where I’m going
    Through carbon hell though it is snowing
    Headed for that global climate war
    It’s Armageddon straight ahead!
    So Adam Smith must not be read
    For wealth sets each against all others
    The Covenant within the Ark
    Is best fulfilled by Karl Marx
    For poverty will make us pauper brothers!
    Eugene WR Gallun

    • A better version
      I don’t care if it rains and freezes
      Long as I got my plastic Jesus
      Riding on the dashboard of my car
      I’m driving fast to where I’m going
      My horn a’ honking, headlights glowing
      Racing to that global climate war
      Its Armageddon straight ahead!
      For just as Adam Smith has said
      Creating wealth sets each against all others!
      The Covenant within the Ark
      Is best fulfilled by Karl Marx
      Shared poverty will make us Christian brothers!
      Eugene WR Gallun

  44. I have observed that religious leaders are more often focused on propaganda than they are on practical solutions to mankind’s problems. The warmunists are particularly so.

  45. I didn’t read every single comment but it seems like I’m the one who has to make the obvious point.
    When the UN was pushing the overpopulation/population control agenda, the blame for this would always fall on large developing nations (read: China and India). Given their UN Security Council status, it was always going to be pushing it uphill to get them to accept any such agenda.
    On the other hand, CAGW lays the blame squarely at the feet of rich, developed countries so it sells very well in developing countries. China and India will happily go along with any agenda which not only absolves them of any blame but which also undermines the strength of the developed nations.
    The Catholic Church dislikes the overpopulation/population control agenda because the only proven ways to control population are increased affluence, increased education and access to cheap birth control methods. The Catholic Church is against all these things because they know these things are also associated with decreased faith in the power of the church.
    Likewise, the Catholic Church will happily buy into the CAGW scam because it is aimed squarely at rich, developed countries where the church’s power is at its weakest and it denies the fruits of modern industrial civilization to poor countries where its power is strongest.
    The beauty and power of the CAGW scam is that is adaptable to so many different positions. It can be twisted to meet whatever is “needed” by so many different groups. I suggest it might be impossible to find one other issue on which the Catholic Church, China and environmentalists agree on. That’s how I know it’s a scam.

  46. Ironic to me that he chose the name Francis, and times his affiliation with the Church of Omnipotent Greenhouse In Carbon just before France hosts what the warmunists hope will be their biggest conquest yet.

  47. At this time it seems I have been exiled by the Catholic Church.
    I will gladly return to the Catholic Church when the Church returns to being Catholic.
    This Pope is engaging some of the most blatant and offensive dog whistling since Jews were called “perfidious”.
    The anti-science transparently political move of this Pope and his advisors not only makes them look foolish. They reduce the Church and divert it from its mission.
    Shame on Pope Francis. He may join ranks with some of the worst Popes in history for this.

    • ‘I will gladly return to the Catholic Church when the Church returns to being Catholic. This Pope is engaging some of the most blatant and offensive dog whistling since Jews were called “perfidious”.’
      No offense, but isn’t that a bit contradictory? Surely sectarianism toward people of other religions is traditional Catholicism, so if the Church “returned to being Catholic” it would make it worse.

      • Not really. Respecting the existence of differences can foster coexistence far more peacefully than asserting that at the core, our beliefs are all the same. The latter creates a need for one sect to rout out dissent in the other, lest its core belief be challenged.

    • Francis would face some stiff competition for worst pope, but he’s definitely in the running, and remarkably soon after assuming (or usurping) office.

  48. It’s what I’ve been writing for years: this whole movement is about giving government, particularly the central government, control. Control of citizens, private entities, and economies. We can call it socialism, but, what it really is is Progressivism, what Jonah Goldberg referred to as “nice fascism”. Nice because they are doing this For Your Own Good. It’s an authoritarian political doctrine that merges with socialist/Marxist leanings toward heavy handed control of economies, businesses, etc, even owning the means of production.
    This is why the “climate change” movement exactly mirrors exactly everything else the Left is attempting to institute.
    Funny thing is, if this actually comes to pass, these same Progressives will be screaming bloody murder about their own cost of living skyrocketing, why they can’t simply drive somewhere or take a fossil fueled flight without massive costs, why food is expensive and limited, why their companies are laying them off, and why government is all in their personal business.

  49. When you are a hammer everything looks like a nail. While I agree that most global warmist are overpopulation advocates, you cannot place Pope Francis among them. In fact the opposite is true, the Pope’s encyclical attacks overpopulation arguments and states, “To blame population growth instead of extreme and selective consumerism on the part of some, is one way of refusing to face the issues. It is an attempt to legitimize the present model of distribution”. So overpopulation argument actually what he believes is the real problem. I have great regrets for this encyclical and I am not trying to justify it in any way, but your analysis of his position is way off.
    For those who feel separated from the Church because of the encyclical (and encouraged by misinformation in articles like this one) I completely sympathize. But I take heart in the colorful history of the Church’s past leaders and all their human weaknesses. I particularly enjoyed reading about The Cadaver Synod where Pope Stephen dug up the previous Pope and put him on trial. Quite the reminder Our Savior founded the Church on humans and not angels.

    • I’d say that Stephen VI is in the running with Francis for worst pope. Both are at least top ten, IMO. Francis might be the worst since the 16th century.
      While possibly not personally the worst pope (although also in the running), the Roman bishop who did the most damage to the RC Church was arguably Leo X, pope from 1513-21. His sale of indulgences to reconstruct St. Peter’s Basilica led to the Martin Luther’s 95 theses and the Reformation. There might be about a billion more Roman Catholics today if not for Leo’s excesses.
      As Alexandre Dumas wrote, “under his pontificate, Christianity assumed a pagan character, which, passing from art into manners, gives to this epoch a strange complexion. Crimes for the moment disappeared, to give place to vices; but to charming vices, vices in good taste, such as those indulged in by Alcibiades and sung by Catullus.”
      Born Giovanni di Lorenzo de’ Medici, the second son of Lorenzo the Magnificent, ruler of the Republic of Florence, at his accession Leo reportedly told his brother Giuliano: “Since God has given us the papacy, let us enjoy it.”
      His extravagance and love of luxury offended not only Luther, but also some cardinals, who, led by Alfonso Petrucci of Siena, plotted his assassination. Leo’s spies discovered the conspirators, who then died of “food poisoning”. Some argue that Leo and his cronies simply concocted the hit charges in a moneymaking scheme to collect fines from the various wealthy cardinals whom he detested.
      Luther, who had lived in Rome, and other contemporaries, also charged Leo with gross indecency. Luther claimed that Leo vetoed a measure restricting the number of boys that cardinals could keep for their pleasure, “Otherwise it would have been spread throughout the world how openly and shamelessly the pope and the cardinals in Rome practice sodomy”.

      • Eight other worthy candidates for worst pope, just from the middle 638 years of the papacy (if you believe it started with Palestinian fisher Peter):
        http://www.oddee.com/item_96537.aspx
        Besides the aforementioned Stephen VI, who put the corpse of his predecessor on trial, and Leo X, who ignited the Reformation, there were, in chronological order:
        “Sergius III was Pope from 897 to 911, and has been the only pope known to have ordered the murder of another pope and the only known to have fathered an illegitimate son who later became pope; his pontificate has been described as “dismal and disgraceful.” The pontificate of Sergius III was remarkable for the rise of what papal historians call a “pornocracy,” or rule of the harlots, a reversal of the natural order as they saw it, according to Liber pontificalis and a later chronicler who was also biased against Sergius III. This “pornocracy” was an age with women in power: Theodora, whom Liutprand characterized as a “shameless whore… [who] exercised power on the Roman citizenry like a man” and her daughter Marozia, the mother of Pope John XI (931–935) and reputed to be the mistress of Sergius III.
        “John XII was Pope from 955 to 964. On 963, Holy Roman Emperor Otto I summoned a council, levelling charges that John had ordained a deacon in a stable, consecrated a 10-year-old boy as bishop of Todi, converted the Lateran Palace into a brothel, raped female pilgrims in St. Peter’s, stolen church offerings, drank toasts to the devil, and invoked the aid of Jove, Venus, and other pagan gods when playing dice. He was deposed, but returned as pope when Otto left Rome, maiming and mutilating all who had opposed him. On 964, he was apparently beaten by the husband of a woman with which he was having an affair, dying three days later without receiving confession or the sacraments.
        “John XV was Pope from 985 to 996. The Pope’s venality and nepotism had made him very unpopular with the citizens, as he split the church’s finances among his relatives and was described as “covetous of filthy lucre and corrupt in all his acts.”
        “Benedict IX was Pope from 1032 to 1044, again in 1045, and finally from 1047 to 1048, the only man to have served as Pope for three discontinuous periods, and one of the most controversial Popes of all time. Benedict gave up his papacy for the first time in exchange for a large sum of money in 1044. He returned in 1045 to depose his replacement and reigned for one month, after which he left again, possibly to marry, and sold the papacy for a second time, to his Godfather (possibly for over 650 kg /1450 lb of gold). Two years later, Benedict retook Rome and reigned for an additional one year, until 1048. Poppo of Brixen (later to become Pope Damascus II) eventually forced him out of Rome. Benedict’s place and date of death are unknown, but some speculate that he made further attempts to regain the Papal Throne. St. Peter Damian described him as “feasting on immorality” and “a demon from hell in the disguise of a priest” in the Liber Gomorrhianus, a treatise on papal corruption and sex that accused Benedict IX of routine homosexuality and bestiality.
        “Innocent IV was Pope from 1243 to 1254. Certainly the Inquisition represents the darkest of Roman Church history, and it was Innocent IV who approved the use of torture to extract confessions of heresy. He aggressively applied the principle that “the end justifies the means.” It is shocking to learn about the deranged instruments of torture that were used on so many innocent people. One of the most famous people to suffer at the hands of Roman inquisitors was Galileo. The church condemned Galileo for claiming that the earth revolved around the sun.
        “Urban VI was Pope from 1378 to 1389. He was the first Pope of the Western Schism (which ultimately lead to three people claiming the Papal throne at the same time). Once elected, he was prone to outbursts of rage. The cardinals who elected him decided that they had made the wrong decision and they elected a new Pope in his place, so he took the name of Clement VII and started a second Papal court in Avignon, France. Later he would launch a program of violence against those he thought to have been conspiring against him, imprisoning people at will and mistreating them brutally. Later historians have considered seriously that he might have been insane.
        “The second election threw the Church into turmoil. There had been antipopes, rival claimants to the papacy, before, but most of them had been appointed by various rival factions; in this case, the legitimate leaders of the Church themselves had created both popes. The conflict quickly escalated from a church problem to a diplomatic crisis that divided Europe. Secular leaders had to choose which pope they would recognize. The schism was repaired forty years later when all three of the (then) reigning Popes abdicated together and a successor elected in the person of Pope Martin V.
        “Alexander VI was Pope from 1492 to 1503. He is the most controversial of the secular popes of the Renaissance, and his surname (Italianized as Borgia) became a byword for the debased standards of the papacy of that era. Originally Cardinal Borgia from Spain, Pope Alexander’s claims to fame were taking over much of Italy by force with the help of his son Cesare (yes, his son), a racy relationship with his daughter Lucrezia (some say her son was his), and his affinity for throwing large parties, bordering on orgies, that usually culminated with little naked boys jumping out of large cakes.
        “Clement VII was Pope from 1523 to 1534. A member of the powerful Medici family, Clement VII possessed great political and diplomatic skills – but he lacked the understanding of the age necessary to cope with the political and religious changes he faced. His relationship with Emperor Charles V was so bad that, in May 1527, Charles invaded Italy and sacked Rome.
        “Imprisoned, Clement was forced into a humiliating compromise which forced him to give up a great deal of secular and religious power. Eventually, Clement became ill and never recovered. He died on September 25, 1534, hated by the people of Rome, who never forgave him for the destruction of 1527.”
        Clement made good his getaway (through the gallery connecting the Vatican with the Castel Sant’ Angelo) from Charles’ troops thanks to his Swiss Guard fighting to the last man. The only guards who survived were the few who accompanied the fleeing pope.

      • Yes, you didn’t want to get on Martin Luther’s bad side, his anti-Jewish books shaped antisemitism even to 1930s Germany.
        One interesting Pope is Urban VII who was pope for 12 days in 1590 yet had enough time to set the first world wide ban on smoking in or near Churches. Urban VIII would make it an excommunicable offense when he wasn’t putting Galileo on trial I guess.

      • Deld,
        Urban VIII IMO doesn’t make the cut, despite his abuse of Galileo out of personal spite.
        While he was a warrior pope, he was one of the more successful ones.
        So many bad popes from which to chose. So little time.

  50. Palestinian fisher Peter? You must mean fisherman.
    A fisher is a small carnivorous mammal native to North America. It is a member of the mustelid family and a part of the marten species. The fisher is closely related to but larger than the American marten.

  51. Well I took down my Penguin English Dictionary vintage 2001 and #1 is the marten of North America Martes pennanti also called Pekan and #2 is archaic a fisherman.
    Therefore if thou art mispleased I earnestly beseech thee to forgive these my misdoings.

    • Martes is a genus, not a species. A fisher is a species of marten, of which there are many. It doesn’t belong to the marten “species”. Hence, a fisher is not “part of the marten species”.
      As I showed you, “fisher” for a person is not archaic, regardless of what Penguin incorrectly says. It is in common usage for bait and fly “fishers”.
      Googling brings up 8.3 million hits for “fly fisher”:
      https://www.google.com/search?q=fly+fisher&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
      In this PC age, its usage is actually increasing because feminist fisher-persons prefer “fisher” to “fisherman”.

      • Genus? Species? The #1 definition for the word talks about some kind of an animal irrespective of its classification and sure what would Penguin Books originally published in Britain know about the English language? But you are obviously never wrong so from henceforth the next time I see some fishermen about to embark on a fishing trip I shall say to them, “Are you fishers off to do some fishering?”

      • Rick,
        Your confusing genus with species is not semantic but significant.
        And the fact is that “fisher” is if anything more common today than in the 19th century, from which your Penguin dictionary derives.

  52. [snip – over the top -mod] If they are so worried about the poor they could sell off the vast riches in the Vatican and donate the proceeds to the poor.

  53. Nothing in the climate change agenda controls the population or provides a benefit to humanity. The motivation behind the climate change agenda is the love of government power. Saving the planet is just another excuse for more government power. It doesn’t matter that the government already has almost complete and total control over everything already. The lust for power is infinite.
    The the love of government power lust list:
    1. The government has power to print the money. The banking system is just another branch of government deciding what and who gets the funding and priviledge of going into debt.
    2. The government has the power to tax even though the government doesn’t need taxes because of the power to print the money. The purpose of taxes is to exert government influence over the people and economy.
    3. The government has the power to spend the taxes it just took away. This creates huge distortions in the economy favoring government priorities such as the military-industrial complex. Also the creation of the huge and wasteful fraud the healthcare industry has become.
    4. The government has the power to regulate through brute force. If the people do not obey they are just jailed or killed. Gun control laws and drug wars are a good example which have no benefit to society except to provide more power to the government.
    The above list is not enough. Now the lovers of government power want direct control over every drop of energy produced. Saving the planet is just the excuse. The government just wants more power.

  54. Pope Francis Sings His Version Of A Famous Religious Song
    or The New Useful Idiot
    I don’t care if it rains and freezes
    Long as I got my plastic Jesus
    Riding on the dashboard of my car
    I’m driving fast to where I’m going
    Horn a’honking, headlights glowing
    Racing to that global climate war!
    It’s Armageddon straight ahead!
    For just as Adam Smith has said
    Creating wealth sets each against all others!
    The Covenant within the Ark
    Is best fulfilled by Karl Marx
    Shared poverty will make us Christian brothers!
    Chorus???
    Once I had a plastic Mary
    She proved only temporary
    Praying on the dashboard of my car
    I threw her out and went to buy a
    Statue of a naked Gaia
    Symbol of the global climate war!

  55. It amazes me in this day of immediate information globally,that the fact that Earth is in the middle of an Interstellar gas cloud,that has been heating up the entire solar system since around 1996; is never referred to. Go Google and read Dr. Dimitrieve’s paper, ” Planeto physical changes affecting all life on Earth today.”
    As we warm up from this cosmic toaster we expand,resulting in earthquakes and volcanoes increasing in activity.The solar cycle is now into a cooling Maunder Minimum,the volcanic ash will cool us down ( apart from the undersea ones off S.America heating the ocean a la El Nino! ) Fukushima will do a significant job of reducing fertility and population,along with Chernobyl.Is nobody taking a step back and seeing the overview of the reality of our situation.It seems that those in power are more interested in their own survival,and want to eliminate the unwashed masses and useless eaters.We ALL have a right to life !

  56. Chorsu???
    Once I had a plastic Mary
    She proved only temporary
    Praying on the dashboard of my car
    I threw her out and went to buy a
    Statue of a naked Gaia
    Symbol of the global climate war!
    She is the third divinity
    The Holy Ghost of Trinity
    God feminine as Christ was made a male!
    No sin against Her gets a pardon
    “unforgivable” since the garden
    The Holy Spirit we must never fail!

  57. “They don’t care about resources or poverty or pollution. They hate us, the humans. They consider us dangerous and sinful creatures who must be controlled by them.” — Vaclav Klaus on the climate change doctrine.

  58. I may have enjoyed that lovely eloquent verbiage if, at least, it wasn’t so anticlimactic (no pun intended).
    Here is THE bottom line, like it or not, we are all sharing one planet. Unless you chose to live in a hermetically sealed room your entire life with controlled food and liquids being fed to you, you will be affected in one way, shape or form by climate change extremes. And none of those will be pleasant events.

    • Lou

      Unless you chose to live in a hermetically sealed room your entire life with controlled food and liquids being fed to you, you will be affected in one way, shape or form by climate change extremes. And none of those will be pleasant events.

      To the contrary. Increased CO2 from man’s fossil fuel use creates nothing but benefits to the planet and to its plants, animals, and people.

  59. “In “The First Global Revolution,” published by The Council of the Club of Rome, an international
    elitist organization, the authors note that:
    “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with
    the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine, and the like would fit the
    bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention …The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.”
    source:
    The First Global Revolution: Club of Rome, Alexander King and Bertrand Schneider, 1991: Pantheon Books, New York, p 115
    Dr. Stanley Moneteith’s Population Control Monograph, RadioLiberty.com
    I appreciate Dr. Ball’s article but somehow he misses the mark in exposing the current “Pope” Francis and his recent encylical. Traditional Catholics are in a real quandary about this “Pope”. He seems to be making one heretical statement after another, and declaring clear heresy in a public way, and of course encyclicals and his extemporaneous speech are not technically “infallible,” but there apparently is nothing in Cannon Law whereby we can excommunicate this “pope.” We have to let him keep on doing extreme injury to the Truth and the One Who came into this world Who is Truth to give us an opportunity to get to heaven.
    The “teachings of the Church” are the correct teachings of Jesus and the Apostles, but unfortunately the Church was infiltrated by Judeo-Masonic Luciferian subversives over a hundred years ago. Adding to the problem was that Catholics adopted “Americanism” ideology and went right along with it in every way from the founding of the USA. The USA was founded upon Judeo-Masonic “Great Enlightenment” principles of Voltaire and Spinoza and the whole Satanic/Luciferian lot of them.
    Watch this 4 minute video

    Francis’ New Encyclical: Radical Environmentalism
    vaticancatholic.com
    vaticancatholic.com
    Birth control chemicals is what brought us mass abortion, that is, mass murder of the unborn. Satan came to kill and destroy the bodies and souls of human beings. Satan hates humankind and all this “global warming” big lie is straight from Satan or Lucifer.
    A priest who prays for the help of the Holy Spirit for purity and chastity is able to teach the correct teachings of the church about birth control and maintain his vow of celibacy. Priests are meant to be celibate heterosexual males according to the New Testament words of Christ and the apostles and the other writers of the gospels and epistles.
    The Church had a doctrine called “Sicut Iudeis Non” when basically, in plain old cornbread English translates to “you Jews don’t mess with our form of worship and we won’t mess with yours.” But the Jews did not abide by that very fair tenet, a tenet that was formulated so as to treat Jews equitably as Christ would have us do. The Jews, or what makes up a big part of what Dr. Stan Monteith used to call “the Brotherhood of Darkness” insidiously infiltrated the Church and now there are priests, bishops, archbishops and cardinals, and possibly even “popes”, who are infested in their hearts, minds and souls with the spirit of the Father of Lies.

    • There are no Christian priests in the New Testament. There are overseers (literally, from Greek ἐπί, “over” and σκοπος, “seer”, hence “epískopos” leading to the English word bishop). These early bishops or deacons oversaw single churches rather than dioceses.
      The NT encourages bishops to limit themselves to just one wife, whereas ordinary believers could have as many as they could afford. Paul did encourage celibacy, but it wasn’t a requirement for bishops or believers in general.

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  60. “Priests are meant to be celibate heterosexual males according to the New Testament words of Christ and the apostles and the other writers of the gospels and epistles.”
    All of the 12 followers of Y’shua were married, including Peter, who brought his wife along with him when he traveled. Mary was married to Joseph and they had a large family. The invention of monasticism in the church was a Roman creation, a class of people who have no loyalty except to the Pope and Rome. The scriptures teach that a bishop must be the husband of one wife and have a good family, and should be an example to others, leading by example and not for the sake of avarice and gain.
    For people who worship the wrong Jews (Marx, Mary and Einstein) the Europeans and Hippies sure are anti-Semitic! Any body else ever notice that.

    • Yes, several of the followers of Christ were married and requirement for priests to be unmarried was not instituted until I think sometime in the third or fourth century. Nevertheless, St. Paul I believe was not married and he recommended against it if one could possibly be celebate, but “better to marry than to burn”. He also said you will have very big problems as a married person and he wanted “priests” to not have that extra burden.
      Their is nothing “unnatural” about celibacy. It is supernatural.
      The rest of your comment was totally leftist and usual twisted Protestant stuff. Mary was ever virgin and Jesus’ “brothers” was the common word for cousins and other relatives, not necessarily actual siblings. Catholics VENERATE the Blessed Mother and DO NOT WORSHIP her.
      The entire Catholic Church was started by individuals who were Jews. It is a mortal sin to be “anti-semitic.” Catholics do not believe in “biological determinism.” A person’s DNA or skin color has not significance at all to Christ the Kind and Savior of all.

  61. Pope Francis — The New Useful Idiot
    Sings A Famous Religious Song
    I don’t care if it rains and freezes
    Long as I got my plastic Jesus
    Riding on the dashboard of my car
    I’m driving fast to where I’m going
    Horn a’honking , headlights glowing
    Racing to that global climate war
    It’s Armageddon straight ahead!
    For just as Adam Smith has said
    Creating wealth sets each against all others!
    The Covenant within the Ark
    Is best fulfilled by Karl Marx
    Shared poverty will make us Christian brothers!
    Chorus???????????
    Once I had a plastic Mary
    She proved only temporary
    Praying on the dashboard of my car
    I threw her out and went to buy a
    Statue of a naked Gaia
    Symbol of the global climate war!
    She is the third Divinity
    The Holy Ghost of Trinity
    God feminine as Christ was made a male
    “Unforgivable” since the garden
    No sin against her gets a pardon
    The Holy Spirit we must never fail!
    Eugene WR Gallun

    • Now Gaia fills the Trinity
      She is the third Divinity
      God feminine as Christ was made a male!
      “Unforgivable” since the garden
      No sin against Her gets a pardon
      The Holy Spirit we must never fail!
      Eugene WR Gallun

    • As Pope I do theology
      But something from ecology
      Was needed on the dashboard of my car
      I slammed the brakes and went to buy a
      Statue of a naked Gaia
      Symbol of the global climate war
      Now Gaia fills the Trinity
      She is the third Divinity
      God feminine as Christ was made a male
      “unforgivable” since the garden
      No sin against her gets a pardon
      The Holy Spirit we must never fail

  62. It’s like slogging through mud.
    Pope Francis — The Useful Idiot
    Sings A Famous Religious Song
    I don’t care if it rains and freezes
    Long as I got my plastic Jesus
    Riding on the dashboard of my car
    I’m driving fast to where I’m going
    Horn a’honking, headlights glowing
    Racing to that global climate war
    It’s Armageddon straight ahead!
    For just as Adam Smith has said
    Creating wealth sets each against all others!
    The Covenant within the Ark
    Is best fulfilled by Karl Marx
    Shared poverty will make us Christian brothers!
    Chorus???????
    I preach a new Theology
    Called Catholic Climatology
    My altar is the dashboard of my car
    I had a vision, went to buy a
    Plastic cast of naked Gaia
    Symbol of the global climate war!
    Now Gaia fills the Trinity
    She is the third divinity
    God feminine as Christ was made a male!
    No sin against Her gets a pardon
    “Unforgivable” since the garden
    The Holy Spirit we must never fail!
    Eugene WR Gallun

  63. This is probably it for the main verses. I don’t know if it needs a chorus.
    Pope Francis — The Useful Idiot
    Sings A Famous Religious Song
    (I)
    I don’t care if it rains and freezes
    Long as I got my plastic Jesus
    Riding on the dashboard of my car
    I’m driving fast to where I’m going
    Horn a’honking, headlights glowing
    Racing to that global climate war!
    It’s Armageddon straight ahead!
    For just as Adam Smith has said
    Creating wealth sets each against all others!
    The Covenant within the Ark
    Is best fulfilled by Karl Marx
    Shared poverty will make us Christian brothers!
    (II)
    I preach a new Theology
    Called Catholic Climatology
    My alter is the dashboard of my car
    I had a vision, went to buy a
    Plastic cast of naked Gaia
    Symbol of the global climate war!
    Now Gaia fills the Trinity
    She is the third Divinity
    God feminine as Christ was made a male!
    In all the nations She’ll be heralded
    The Moving Spirit Of The World!
    —- Who bobs Her head —- and shakes Her tail
    Eugene WR Gallun

    • Apparently I am the only person on earth who pronounces “heralded” as a two syllable word.
      In all the nations they will herald
      The Moving Spirit Of The World!
      — Who bobs Her head — and shakes Her tail
      Eugene WR Gallun

  64. Done.
    Pope Francis — The Useful Idiot
    Sings A Famous Religious Song
    (I)
    I don’t care if it rains and freezes
    Long as I got my plastic Jesus
    Riding on the dashboard of my car
    I’m driving fast to where I’m going
    Horn a’honking, headlights glowing
    Racing to that global climate war!
    It’s Armageddon straight ahead!
    For just as Adam Smith has said
    Creating wealth sets each against all others
    The Covenant within the Ark
    Is best fulfilled by Karl Marx
    Shared poverty will make us Christian brothers!
    (II)
    I preach a new Theology
    Called Catholic Climatology
    My alter is the dashboard of my car!
    I had a vision, went to buy a
    Electric, plastic, naked Gaia
    Symbol of the global climate war!
    Now Gaia fills the Trinity
    She is the third Divinity
    God feminine as Christ was made a male!
    In all the nations they will herald
    The Moving Spirit Of The World!!!!!!!
    — Who bobs Her head — and shakes Her tail!
    Eugene WR Gallun

    • So Gaia joins the Trinity
      She is the third Divinity
      God feminine as Christ was made a male!
      In all the nations they will herald
      The Moving Spirit Of The World!
      — Who bobs Her head and shakes Her tail
      Eugene WR Galliun

  65. Pope Francis decided that overpopulation is a bigger problem than Church doctrine…
    Yep … and the Catholic Church certainly has been one of the overpopulation contributing culprits because of its stance on contraceptives and birth control. The rhythm method has resulted in an untold number of avoidable pregnancies that the Vatican would not care to talk about.

  66. This is the final version. I think i have all the kinks straightened out.
    Pope Francis — The Useful Idiot
    Sings A Famous Religious Song
    (I)
    I don’t care if it rains and freezes
    Long as I got my plastic Jesus
    Riding on the dashboard of my car
    I’m driving fast to where I’m going
    Horn a’honking, headlights glowing
    Racing to that global climate war!
    It’s Armageddon straight ahead!
    For just as Adam Smith has said
    Creating wealth sets each against all others!
    The Covenant within the Ark
    Is best fulfilled by Karl Marx
    Shared poverty will make us Christian brothers!
    (II)
    I preach a new Theology
    Derived from Climatology
    My alter is the dashboard of my car
    I had a vision, went to buy a
    Naked, windup, plastic Gaia
    I serve Her in the global climate war
    For Gaia mends the Trinity
    She is the third Divinity
    God feminine as Christ was made a male
    In all the nations they will herald
    The Moving Spirit Of The World!
    — Who bobs Her head and shakes Her tail
    Eugene WR Gallun

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