(Via Vatican Radio) Pope Francis has decided to set up a “World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation” which will be celebrated on September 1st annually.
He made the announcement in a letter to the heads of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace and the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity.
While the words’ “global warming” and “climate change” aren’t specifically mentioned in the text, the purpose seems clear in the context of his recent encyclical when they say “the future of creation”. Something that Dr. James Hansen has touched on in a 2009 presentation “Climate Threat to Creation: Implications for Intergenerational Equity and Justice“. and also in 2007 with “An Opportunity to Lead the Nation in Stewardship of the Earth and Creation“. The language here seems very similar and the mention of the Encylical Letter. Laudato Si, 7-9 removes any doubt.
My view: God helps those who help themselves. If the planet is going to hell in a handbasket as they claim, praying about it won’t do much good.
Below in English is Pope Francis’ letter announcing the “World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation”
To my Venerable Brothers
Cardinal Peter Kodwo Appiah TURKSON, President of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace
Cardinal Kurt KOCH, President of the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity
Sharing with my beloved brother the Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew his concerns for the future of creation (cfr Encylical Letter. Laudato Si, 7-9) and taking up the suggestion by his representative, the Metropolitan Ioannis of Pergamum who took part in the presentation of the Encyclical Laudato Si on the care of our common home, I wish to inform you that I have decided to set up also in the Catholic Church, the “World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation” which, beginning this year, will be celebrated on the 1st of September, as the Orthodox Church has done for some time now.
As Christians we wish to offer our contribution towards overcoming the ecological crisis which humanity is living through. Therefore, first of all we must draw from our rich spiritual heritage the reasons which feed our passion for the care of creation, always remembering that for believers in Jesus Christ, the Word of God who became man for us, “the life of the spirit is not dissociated from the body or from nature or from worldly realities, but lived in and with them, in communion with all that surrounds us.” (ibid., 216). The ecological crisis therefore calls us to a profound spiritual conversion: Christians are called to “an ecological conversion whereby the effects of their encounter with Jesus Christ become evident in their relationship with the world around them.” (ibid., 217). Thus, “living our vocation to be protectors of God’s handiwork is essential to a life of virtue; it is not an optional or a secondary aspect of our Christian experience.”(ibid).
The annual World Day of prayer for the Care of Creation offers to individual believers and to the community a precious opportunity to renew our personal participation in this vocation as custodians of creation, raising to God our thanks for the marvellous works that He has entrusted to our care, invoking his help for the protection of creation and his mercy for the sins committed against the world in which we live. The celebration of the Day on the same date as the Orthodox Church will be a valuable opportunity to bear witness to our growing communion with our orthodox brothers. We live in a time where all Christians are faced with identical and important challenges and we must give common replies to these in order to appear more credible and effective. Therefore it is my hope that this Day can involve, in some way, other Churches and ecclesial Communities and be celebrated in union with the initiatives that the World Council of Churches is promoting on this issue.
Cardinal Turkson, as President of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, I asking you to inform the Justice and Peace Commissions of the Bishops’ Conferences, as well as the national and international Organizations involved in environmental issues about the establishment of the World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation, so that in union with the needs and the local situation , this celebration can be rightly marked with the participation of the entire People of God: priests, men and women religious and the lay faithful. For this reason, it will be the task of this Dicastery, in collaboration with the Episcopal Conferences to set up relevant initiatives to promote and illustrate this Day, so that this annual celebration becomes a powerful moment of prayer, reflection, conversion and the adoption of appropriate life styles.
Cardinal Koch, as President of the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of Christian Unity, I’m asking you to make the necessary contacts with the Ecumenical Patriarchate and with the other ecumenical organisations so that this World Day can become the sign of a path along all believers in Christ walk together. It will also be your Dicastery’s task to take care of the coordination with similar initiatives set up by the World Council of Churches.
Whilst I look forward to the widest possible cooperation for the best start and development of the World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation, I invoke the intercession of Mary, the Mother of God and of St. Francis of Assisi, whose Canticle of the Creatures inspires so many men and women of goodwill to live in praise of the Creator and with respect for creation. I support this pledge along with my Apostolic Blessing which I impart with all my heart to you, my dear Cardinals, and to all those who collaborate in your ministry.
From the Vatican, 6th August 2015
Should we tell them that this is NOT one of the Koch “brothers” or just let them be confused? 😎
We are all brothers under God.
Let it be, oh, let it be.
Let it be…
Indeed, that will be the prayer in the late 2020s and 2030s.
Oh, Global Warning, let it be, let it be !
Well not to worry; Mother Gaia knows the serial number and Temperature of every molecule in the universe, so she will make sure that the Temperature is exactly what it is supposed to be.
So it will all come out in the wash; she’ll be right Mates.
G
NO, we are NOT all brothers under god.
Regards
Climate Heretic
PS /Sarc
“Indeed, that will be the prayer in the late 2020s and 2030s.”
Do I get my money back if my farming plans in Greenland go haywire?
Whisper words of warming, let it be.
More likely one of the Marx brothers. This pope is a bit different.
+10 and clever as all get out!
Gary, you won this thread.
the ecological crisis which humanity is living through
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Who today fears Cholera or Diphtheria or Smallpox? Yet these conditions are great killers created by God that are part of the natural environment. Why should humans cherish the natural environment? The Vatican is about as removed from the natural environment as one can get.
Show me a Pope that is willing to go live in the wilderness, in the natural environment, removed from the conveniences of modern life. The current Pope would not be able to feed or care for himself in the wild. The environment that he cherishes would quickly kill and devour him.
Pick any wilderness region on earth where the environment is largely untouched by humans. In almost any spot on earth a naked Pope would die of exposure within a day or two at most. The only areas where a naked Pope could survive more than 2 days, he would be quite literally be eaten alive by insects.
Humans were cast out of The Garden of Eden by God. Mother Nature doesn’t give a damn about humans. She kills us pretty quickly once we are separated from our technology.
Hey Pope, Don’t you know that telling lies is a sin? And perpetrating the lie that ‘man made’ climate change is a crime against all mankind, and an abomination against God? Don’t you know that when you come in His name with a lie,you portray yourself as the anti-Christ prophesied in the Bible?
Only a fool would believe your words, and only a fool would tell them.
Oh, dear!
Will those praying be exhaling?
God help them if they are.
Bears will no longer be able to poo in the woods because it’s bad for the planet..?
Where will Mickey Mann find his next tree, then !!!!!
Our Mother, which art in Gaia, Hallowed be Thy name. Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done, on Earth as it is in the Universe. Give us this day our daily cellulosic roughage, and condemn us for our emissions, as we condemn those who emit against us. Lead us not into using into temptation to bear children or to burn fossil fuels. And deliver us from evil polluters. For Thine is the Kingdom as represented by a General Circulation Model, and the Power of Groupthink of school teachers and NGOs, and the Glory of the Paris CoP 2015, forever and ever, or 2100 by which time we’ll all be drowned, starved or burned to a crisp. Amen.
Good, I’ll be praying for enough more global warming to avoid another frozen pipe and the ice damming I got last winter in Massachusetts.
It will cost you a lot!!
Me too! We didn’t even have a summer here either.
In the Pacific NW, we’ve had and are having SUMMER! But news outlets aren’t centered here; so we hear very little about AGW…
So how many millions of innocents has he just now condemned to an early death by cold, malnutrition, starvation, famine, disease, and illness from bad water, no sewage, poor food, no transportation, no clean cooking, and no sanitation?
Damn his socialism, his protected ivory-tower idealism and his ill-advisors.
Advisors? He is 100% to blame for his actions. Any rational human being could see the truth if they just stopped their bleating, bead fumbling and incomprehensible Latin mumbling and simply employed commonsense and reason.
Catch 22. If the Pope ’employed commonsense and reason’ he would not be the Pope.
Indeed, well said.
Calm down and reread it again. This was a suggestion by the Orthodox as a step for calendar synchronization that the Pope has responded positively to. There is nothing explicit about global warming here and it’s unlikely to be taken that way by Catholics who had not already drunk deep from the global warming koolaid. For them, every initiative is an excuse to talk about global warming anyway so, really, not a big difference.
Calendar synchronization has been a Catholic/Orthodox issue since 1582 when Pope Gregory XIII introduced his new calendar. This not only predates Michael Mann, global warming, but also socialism.
In other words, this is deep in the weeds of Catholic/Orthodox unification talks and will likely have zero global warming implications.
“Sharing with my beloved brother the Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew his concerns for the future of creation (cfr Encylical Letter. Laudato Si, 7-9)”
Laudato Si, 7-9
1) The spiritual perspective is now part of the discussion on the environment.
2) The poor are disproportionately affected by climate change.
3) Less is more.
4) Catholic social teaching now includes teaching on the environment.
5) Discussions about ecology can be grounded in the Bible and church tradition.
6) Everything is connected—including the economy.
7) Scientific research on the environment is to be praised and used.
8) Widespread indifference and selfishness worsen environmental problems.
9) Global dialogue and solidarity are needed.
10) A change of heart is required
http://americamagazine.org/top-ten-takeaways-laudato-si
If it’s “calendar synchronization” that is behind Francis’ latest environmental spiel then it’s an extremely esoteric point that will fly over the heads of most everyone, Catholics included. But regardless of the Pope’s intent or meaning, climate doom-mongers (most of whom are irreligious leftists) will enthusiastically interpret his words as an endorsement of their agenda. For them it’s propaganda gold.
The Pope has recently waxed critical of “unbridled capitalism”, “greed” and “climate change” as sources of all evil in the modern world. He doesn’t seem to grasp that those who happily quote his careless, misguided rhetoric are no friends of the Church. In fact most are at best indifferent and many are hostile to religion and not a few despise the Catholic Church in particular. His encouraging them like this adds to their credibility and boosts an agenda that will lead to more poverty and suffering in the world, not less.
TMLutas is correct – There is nothing explicit about global warming here and it’s unlikely to be taken that way by Catholics.
The post addressed the fact that the words of CAGW were not directly stated, but no doubt implied…
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“While the words’ “global warming” and “climate change” aren’t specifically mentioned in the text, the purpose seems clear in the context of his recent encyclical when they say “the future of creation”. Something that Dr. James Hansen has touched on in a 2009 presentation “Climate Threat to Creation: Implications for Intergenerational Equity and Justice“. and also in 2007 with “An Opportunity to Lead the Nation in Stewardship of the Earth and Creation“. The language here seems very similar and the mention of the Encylical Letter. Laudato Si, 7-9 removes any doubt.”
Worst pope evah. But a good pinko commie agitator as Archie Bunker would say. Dunno which is worse – the commie pope or the pedophile priests.
Really?
It’s the latter.
latter
That depends on the rate of information leakage on each.
The former is worse by far, helping to insure that billions of 3rd world people will be denied their right to dig their way out of poverty using cheap fossil fuel the way the 1st world did ~150 years ago.
This is great! I love it… it’s an act of faith for something that isn’t actually a problem… so when it becomes clear that the problem is solved, we can thank the Pope. LOL!
Gov. Rick Perry of Texas tried that approach – praying for rain, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_Prayer_for_Rain_in_the_State_of_Texas
It did not work. In America, perhaps a rain dance would have been more successful.
Not a bad idea, a cold dance to halt the heat! Perhaps Deney Terrio could put some nice moves together for us.
It did seem to work in south eastern Australia a few years back. A pinko journalist asked the then Prime Minister John Howard whether people should pray for an end to the drought which had been going for several years, and he said yes. The middle class left wing media went into hysterics, but on the Sunday conservative churches all over the drought stricken areas prayed for rain, and on the Tuesday and Wednesday we got more rain than we had got over the previous few years in total. Yes, I know, pure coincidence etc. But the thing you can have real faith in is that middle class pinkos will always end up beclowning themselves.
Britain did the same back in 1976 (long before Global Warming, I might add).
The UK had a record breaking summer and drought that got pretty serious. So Mr Dennis Howell MP was appointed as the Minister for Drought, and within three days it had started raining. It was all down to his circular dancing in his office, it was explained…
http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/philip-eden/The-greatest-drought-on-record.htm
Ralph
Maybe Wiki has been to hasty, After all, look at today,s drought map as compared to what Wiki is showing back in 2011. That was a deep widespread drought. So it took God a few years to set it right. Besides He thought that the Texans might get the wrong message if He tried to fix it faster, and ended up flooding them out of their homes……http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/
as the “permanent drought” ended, perhaps it did work.
Why is the Church not praying to make it colder? When did it become a sin to go shopping on the weekend?
This is great! I love it… it’s an act of faith for something that isn’t actually a problem… so when it becomes clear that the problem is solved, we can thank the Pope. LOL!
Prayer seems largely harmless, to me at least. So if he thinks it helps, go ahead.
Just so long as his praying doesn’t involve others paying.
Prayer seems largely
harmlessuseless, to me at least.Fixed it for ya. No charge.
It might be both harmless and useless — no contradiction there.
I like having a “World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation” . But means our job is to show the pope that to properly take care of Creation, it demands scientific integrity NOT bogus claims to create climate fear
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or
http://landscapesandcycles.net/American_Meterological_Society_half-truth.html
Amen!
Jim,
The CAGW agenda is being used as a Proxy for HC Depletion, which is a real issue, but one which TPTB (including Big Oil) does not want to address directly.
Re-Energize Iowa: An Opportunity to Lead the Nation in Stewardship of the Earth and Creation Jim Hansen, 5 August 2007
A price on carbon emissions is needed to stretch oil and gas supplies as we develop technologies needed for the world ‘beyond petroleum’. The carbon price will drive efficiency and low-carbon or no-carbon energy sources. If instead we continue business-as-usual, addicted to more and more fossil fuel use, as oil begins to run out we will be unprepared
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/2007/Iowa_20070805.pdf
al the best
brent (retired downstreamer)
the Chicago Mercantile Exchange(CME) does a pretty good job of signaling future prices and supplies. We don’t need a government edict to enforce some imaginary price on the future. We began to run out of oil the day Drake’s first well came in. We’ll always have oil,, for a price, and if that price gets steep enough there is the technology available to meet the demand. If oil you must have, just make it, probably using nuclear reactors as a heat source.
Because I needed another reason to rue getting baptized Catholic so I could marry my now-ex in a cathedral.
So nice to see the Lefties’ having one of their own in the Vatican. In the end, it’s somewhat understandable: whether the Statists or the Religious, it’s all about the feelz.
But are we supposed to pray for global warming or against it? I am confused. 🙂
Chuckle, more plant food please.
Well you pick your own Temperature; it’s the only fair way !
Doesn’t anybody care that there are NO green stars !
Green is NOT a black body Temperature.
G
I’m going to pray that God saves all creation from “climate scientists” like Micky Mouse, Cookthedata and Nutterbelly and psychopathogens like Stewandpoutski.
(psychopathogen- an unstable, mentally ill person who infects the brain tissue of anyone willing to believe him/her)
As I have said before, who is going to save the planet from those who are trying to save the planet.?
Stephen Heins,
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (often translated as “Who will guard the guardians?)
More like, who will save us from those trying to save the planet? The planet doesn’t need saving. It was just fine doing what planets do before we ever arrived and it will continue doing it long after we are all gone. And right now it has no knowledge of anyone trying to save it nor would it care one way or the other.
/preaching to the choir
According to the pope’s own bible, God destroyed the surface of this planet with global rain because he repented that he had ever created humans. Observing today’s climastrologists, I can’t say that I blame him. He should try it again – this time with global snow.
@noaaprogrammer August 12, 2015 at 8:21 pm
Yeah, God just might be PO’d enough by the hubris of the Planet Savers to try a do-over. God promised not to use water again and snow is the frozen form of water, so snow is probably off the table. I’m thinking the Supreme Being would have something else in mind… more cosmic, like an asteroid or something. Maybe we shouldn’t dismiss Planet X out of hand, eh? ;o)
“As Christians we wish to offer our contribution towards overcoming the ecological crisis which humanity is living through. Therefore, first of all we must draw from our rich spiritual heritage the reasons which feed our passion for the care of creation, always remembering that for believers in Jesus Christ, the Word of God who became man for us, “the life of the spirit is not dissociated from the body or from nature or from worldly realities, but lived in and with them, in communion with all that surrounds us.” (ibid., 216). The ecological crisis therefore calls us to a profound spiritual conversion: Christians are called to “an ecological conversion whereby the effects of their encounter with Jesus Christ become evident in their relationship with the world around them.” (ibid., 217). Thus, “living our vocation to be protectors of God’s handiwork is essential to a life of virtue; it is not an optional or a secondary aspect of our Christian experience.”
This is meant to coerce/corral/manipulate Christians into the warmist’s groupthink. This act is sickening.
Let’s ask ourselves, “What would Jesus do?”
Would Jesus allow the moneychangers into the temple? – make no mistake – the warmists are a creation of the moneychangers (bankers).
Would Jesus use the subversive tactics of warmists? Would Jesus lie to get his way?
Would Jesus place blame where it doesn’t belong – ie bear false witness?
Would Jesus force anyone into an non-optional course of action based on the above three?
Would Jesus try to encourage the elimination of human beings as the warmists want?
What this Pope is doing is trying to do is force all Christians to become a slave – a ‘convert’ to the Green religion (agenda) – a humanist anti-God religion, and make Earth worship the center of life.
All of the above is the very definition of what Jesus was against.
The Pope therefore cannot truly be a Christian.
I don’t know what the Pope is, but he’s not very observant or scientific, and I think he is deliberately trying to change the very definition of what it means to be a Christian.
There is no ecological crisis demanding such obedience to such blatant manipulation.
How far would/will this Pope go towards achieving the warmist’s Earth-“purifying” objectives.
A better question, “What did Jesus pray?”
John 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
Jesus Christ came to save Man, not the whales.
The Pope’s twisting of Scripture is no better than Hayhoe’s.
PS I know that many here don’t care one way or the other what the Bible says. I didn’t make this comment to start a debate along those lines. I made it merely to point out that the Pope’s call doesn’t quite line up with Scriptural “observations”. Perhaps he should read all of John 17?
Amen, brother.
Thank you for what you have said.
Also I have always looked your “Handle” thus I offer this with respect
E carried me away
To where a dooli lay,
An’ a bullet come an’ drilled the beggar clean. 70
‘E put me safe inside,
An’ just before ‘e died:
“I ‘ope you liked your drink,” sez Gunga Din.
So I’ll meet ‘im later on
In the place where ‘e is gone— 75
Where it’s always double drill and no canteen;
‘E’ll be squattin’ on the coals
Givin’ drink to pore damned souls,
An’ I’ll get a swig in Hell from Gunga Din!
Din! Din! Din! 80
You Lazarushian-leather Gunga Din!
Tho’ I’ve belted you an’ flayed you,
By the livin’ Gawd that made you,
You’re a better man than I am, Gunga Din!
michael
Oops Liked not looked
Well I’m going to inform my bishop that I think Francis is making a fool of himself and embarrassing Catholics worldwide because there is no ecological crisis. Gaian rubbish.
Francis claims that the ecological crisis corresponds to a threat by mankind against God’s creation, as if God is neither immanent nor transcendent.
I wonder then, to whom are we to pray?
Ban Ki-Moon?
I think this Pope is going to shrink the faith significantly. He seems unaware that the poor are the pawns in the great godless enterprise of Malthusian elites using climate to usher in a world government run by them (the ‘elites’ also want a much smaller earth population – so guess who goes and who stays).
My own favorite Biblical quote.
” Jesus wept ! ”
g
These sick priests and Bishops of Rome have absolutely ZERO moral authority, period. The Roman Catholic Church stoked the murder of 6 million Jews through blood libel. If not directly involved, the church and Pious XII were silent during the Holocaust. Its priests actively shielded Nazis and facilitated their escape to South America after the war. Incredibly, convicted Nazi war criminals were being offered sanctuary in France well into the 1980s.
Not to mention the rampant pedophilia and rape of children perpetrated by Roman Catholic Priests throughout the world. Covered up and facilitated, of course, by Roman Catholic church authorities, who to this day offer sanctuary to these sick, deviant child molesters and their enablers in Vatican City.
Spot on.
You’ve nailed it.
He’s certainly an apostate.
Bob, I think you may have misinterpreted what the Pope was in reality saying.
Your statements from “Let’s ask ourselves” to “elimination of human beings as the warmists want?” are perfectly correct. The Pope is condemning the CAGW alarmists, not supporting them, and all should use exactly what the Pope said to point out, long and loudly, that there is no support in scripture for their position. I agree he may not be “very observant or scientific” but his words are fully in line with the views of Lord Monckton, or Willis E, and almost all those on this site who query the lack of scientific knowledge and practice of the CAGW promoters.. Some are obviously, from their remarks, not Christians, but they will still agree with you and the Pope that what Jesus would say and do now bears no relation to the desires of those supporting the pretence of AGW, C or not.
Gunga Din has found (thank you) the perfect reference from John’s Gospel in chapter 17 verse 9 = “I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.” Jesus prays for PEOPLE, not the inanimate creation.
Bob, if you are a Christian, may God give strength to your elbow in pointing out to your fellow church members (and your local and far-flung communities) the correct interpretation of what the Pope said, not the distorted version you are likely to hear from the warmists and alarmists. If you are not a Christian, well, do the same anyway.
I’d appreciate it if you would spell how you think the alarmists are being condemned by the Pope.
Dudley, the point is the Bible does say what Gunga Din noted, but the Pope has, nevertheless thrown his support behind the CAGW alarmists. This Pope is different. Surely it won’t be said that he didn’t understand that the CAGW clique and the UN are elitists who want to reduce the population down to 1-3billion (depending on who you choose). The elitists are denying poor countries cheap energy and it has even been said that a pandemic of major proportions wouldn’t be enough – policy ‘initiatives’ were needed.
Ironically, China has set up the Asian Monetary Fund to fund the kind of projects that the WMF and the World Bank won’t fund to help the poor. Obama was outraged and tried, without success, to join the AMF so that the existing system under Western control wouldn’t be compromised. Asia will develop Africa and other poor regions and the Pope will be stuck with the Malthusian elites. I predict a grand exodus of Catholics from the faith under this Pope when they come to realize who his bedfellows are.
The Pope can claim the day of prayer was a total success since there has been no global warming in over 18 years. It reminds me of the old joke about the man that clapped his hands to keep the elephants away. See it works!
Maybe that it works retroactively.
He’s planting watermelon seeds.
…My view: God helps those who help themselves. If the planet is going to hell in a handbasket as they claim, praying about it won’t do much good….
I’m wondering why God would allow this to happen? After all, He made the Earth, so you’d think he would be a little more protective of it? And even when He did Sodom and Gomorrah over, he arranged for the few righteous to flee.
Doesn’t he care about punishing the innocent with the guilty? It’s things like this that lose a religion its followers…
And an ideologue Pope Frank.
More like an idiot frankenpope.
I deny any relation and all association.
That’s krankenpope !
Fits perfectly.
g
Ah, but he works in mysterious ways, Dodgy G!
My view: God helps those who help themselves
And God help those who get caught.
The denial of energy to the poorest on the planet will result in massive misery. The escathological cargo cult of the CAGW has an agenda that will do precisely that.
24-years late. The Greek Orthodox Church established the care for creation liturgy in 1991 during Pope Parthenius III regime!
Old boy Pope Francis and the Vatican and the Latin Church are really behind the times!
Christianity evolves by adopting Pagan rituals.
http://www.goarch.org/ourfaith/ourfaith8048
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarch_Parthenius_III_of_Alexandria
Ha ha
Here in Michigan we will absolve those who caused this warming if they send some our way during this next winter. After three really cold and snowy winters in a row, we will welcome some warmth. So will my remaining boxwoods.
I guess I could pray that the lie of CO2 pollution is exposed and we can get back to solving the real pollution issues. But they are local and give the Pope no global leverage.
I am quite sure that if Man is such a threat to God’s creation, God WILL stop Man from destroying His work!! Supplications have never gone down very well with the almighty, Fire and Brimstone on the other hand did wonders in the past!! Sodoma and Gomorra a prime example, not that the tower of Babel was insignificant either…..The pope is trying to make Himself relevant so taht he can sign up a few more members!!!
I like this. Now we can check for correlations between the first of September and Global climate effects.
If there is a correlation, we have a testable theory that God exists.
If there is no correlation, we have evidence that God exists, but he can be swamped by natural factors.
But if God exists he would not supply us with a scientifically proveable method, because that denies faith.
And if natural factors can thwart God, then he is not a God.
So this Prayer day proves that God exists and that he doesn’t exist. But only for Catholics
Let us pray…
Oh God, Lord of Hosts, We are thankful for the Bountifully Warm times in which we live. We are truly blessed with harvests capable of sustaining the thronging masses which you have seen fit to allow to thrive upon this Earth. We further thank you for allowing such diversity of creation to have evolved such that we have more to eat than just Pond Scum and more to drink than just brackish water.
We pray to be kept safe from the evils that would be beset upon us from the entity known as EPA (Evil Personified Agency), protect us from those fools that see fit to tell us that even the exhalations of the respirations you’ve seen fit to give us, that stuff of food for the Plants, that first link in the massive food chain, which thrive upon this Earth, are Toxic to the very existence of that same said life. Lead us not down the path of Hubris that seems to infect those very EPA Leaders. Help those with influence to see the great truth and light in the grand design of this Earth that CO2 is Vital to our very existence and that a Warmer life is far better than a Colder life
Seems harmless enough. At least he isn’t naming witches who may have caused the global ecological crisis – in his head.
I agree. Having a communist pope is good for Catholic Church third world recruiting. Plus we can always use communists who respect the environment, because they sure made a mess in the Soviet Union. On the other hand, won’t it hurt the political chances for Mr Jeb Bush?
This looks more like an attempt to prevent the decline in Catholic numbers by grabbing onto the “hip” religion of AGW. What’s next – ISIS declaring jihad on “deniers”?
Well, we gave the “Romans” a good thrashing and drove them away from our shores. They had brutally ruled our forefathers and our islands. (It was quite some time ago).
Their eventual conversion to christianity was just another way to CONTROL using a religious belief system: so, here we go again !
Methinks a heavenly and most beautiful psalm by choir-boy cherubs (a viral video) could do the trick, singing eyes-upward to a craven, pope-like image… “We send our methane unto thee, we all ate cabbage, voraciously”. (Sound effects at full ‘parp’ volume with a kneeling and praying audience fainting in their pews like falling dominoes).
Just sayin’ !
The care of creation requires its honest accurate understanding .
The eKoStatists are guilty of crimes against reality .
So what is new?
Believing in the evil of global warming is a mater of religious like conviction rather than a rational scientific thought.
In this case Vatican again needs to re-examine state of its credo, as it did on number of the past occasion.
Here’s a Prayer, Your Holiness:
Lord save the Eagle and the Hawk, the Bat and the Buzzard and all those wondrous creatures given wings as art Thine own Angels and which are now laid waste across hill and dale by the awful spinning machinery of death which was brought forth by those who line their pockets by deceit and mark their passage with bloody feathered corpses rotting in the Sun.
This will establish a new entry in the Guinness Book of Records:
“The most atheists that pray on any given day.”
The cult now has a church.
+100
Now that is a good comment ! 🙂
Now, every Catholic priest with a congregation, will be promoting the CAGW agenda during Mass. And the congregation need not question the science behind it…Just simply have faith in the reality of it.
Now could well be the time for Vatican Radio to make the announcement:-
“The Pope has eloped!”
The word ‘denier’ will change to ‘blasphemer’.
I’ll totally go with your “God helps those who help themselves” theorem.
Luckily I wasn’t the one that awoke that sleeping dog.
But, whatever.
This is really a shame…he stands to alienate half of his audience
Climate Change is going full-on Religion. In other words:
That should help anyone who’s ambivalent or unsure in the science community to understand what Climate Change has now become. Richard Feynman is turning in his grave.
Perhaps his Holiness should stick to this oldie but goodie:
God, grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change, The courage to change the things we can, And the wisdom to know the difference.
Particularly the wisdom part.
Reblogged this on TheFlippinTruth and commented:
Dude should just stick to peddling fairy tales.
I wonder how your average church goer will react to the edict from this new Pope that there are now two Gods to worship…the Supreme Being and now the Earth?
Not too well methinks. Watch for a massive drop in regular church goers.
LOL. Anything to prove God exists. Does he then pull out the God Article with graphs to prove God heard and acted?
His own personal CERN tunnel?
Disclaimer, not rubbishing God just formal religions.
Gaia worship? I thought the Bible sez not to pray to false gods.
Who prays to Gaia ??
She is just a super Maxwell’s Demon, who sees all, and knows all, and tells nothing (to us).
But a useful notion to contemplate what we might know, if we were able to know the unknowable.
For example; if I have a mole of gas (atmosphere) which at STP occupies 22.4 liters, I have a set of molecules with serial numbers ranging from 1 up to Avogadro’s number.
Now U and I cannot read those serial numbers, but Mother Gaia can.
So she can look at any instant and see which serial numbers occupy which kinetic energy slot in the Maxwell-Boltzmann KE distribution graph that applies to a gas in thermal equilibrium at a single Temperature.
So there is an available pixel on that M-B distribution graph for every single molecule in the sample so there are Avogadro’s number of pixels in the area under the graph.
Now as I said, U & I cannot read the serial numbers so we see a static picture, with every pixel occupied by some molecule or other, and the shape of that graph is characteristic of the Temperature.
So what exactly does Mother Gaia; my Super Maxwell’s Demon see ??
Well she can of course read the serial numbers; all of them, instantaneously.
And every time she looks, she sees that all of the serial numbers have shifted, and swapped places, in an infinite variety of patterns, but always, with one molecule on each pixel, but the number on any pixel changes randomly.
Ergo, we can say, that over time, any single molecule, let’s say # 3141592656 will eventually have been seen at every one of those pixel locations, by M-G.
So we can say, that for that molecule number 3141592656, it has a time varying kinetic energy, that fluctuates in the exact same Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution pattern, as that exhibited by the whole mole of gas, at that particular Temperature.
Now traditionally we say that any single molecule in free flight; i.e. not in a collision with other molecules has NO temperature.
Temperature is a macro thermo-dynamic property of huge assemblages of molecules.
Any single molecule cannot have a Temperature.
But we can say that a single molecule has a pseudo-Temperature, which is the TIME AVERAGED KE of that molecule, and has the same M_B KE over time as a volume of gas at that same Temperature.
Mother Gaia knows that; but she will never tell us, and we can’t read the molecule’s serial number, to watch it move around in KE space.
g > G
George I heard it as: Sees all, hears all and knows SFA.
There is a simple link to email the vatican. What little respect I still had for the catholic church dissipated when they elected the current creature as pope. John Paul I respected but not this creature.
You keep saying “creature”, care to define the term ??
I thought in the 10 commandments it said thou shalt have no other good before me. Since global climate warming is a religion the pope may get cross way with his boss
Pretty obvious what’s going on here:
Romans 1:
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,…
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever.
SR
This Pope is the kind of person St. Paul warned us about in his letter to the Romans.
Chapter 1-25. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator.
How sad, when the truth is so much easier and just a finger tip away.
There have been old ones who looked me in the eye, “Son some people are just no good and there is nothing you can do about it but stay away from them.”
Sad in this case for sure.
Hes right,
Let us all pray for global warming,
the last thing we want is the cooling
Thus, every September 1 we will witness the observation of The Roman Catholic Church’s Cargo Cult Climate Science Day.
That action requested by the Roman Catholic Church confirms Richard Feynman’s observation that cargo cult science is a religion.
John
Former NOAA scientist warns of Arctic cooling and claims the US govt is fiddling with temp data. Big surprise NOT.
http://notrickszone.com/2015/08/12/now-starting-to-see-a-dramatic-cooling-in-the-arctic-says-former-noaa-meteorologist-extremely-cold-from-2025-to-2050/#comments
It may behoove the Pope to remember that he does NOT speak for all Christians, regardless of how much he thinks of himself…
Certainly not this one, not even Catholic.
Seems like he’s trying to hijack his own holiday- Labour Day!
Eminently reasonable, since belief in AGW has much more in common with religious belief than in the scientific method.
So, is that the day the Vatican is going to divest itself of oil company stocks?
To the Dear Leader of the Roman Catholic Church,
Adversus solem ne loquitor.
John
And another bit of advice for Il Duce: Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere
Dominus vobiscum to that.
Pope blows it again, September 1st is already a day of national pray, the start of hunting season.
i suppose I too could spare a prayer, may god protect and deliver me from the mendacity of do-gooders.
however is there is/are god/s seems to me they already have Al Gores number.
This Catholic Pope is horning in on Big Al’s racket.
Professional Jealousy?
if there is…
This shows what a failure Earth Day has been.
The pope is a fantasy writer.
What has been written is the introduction to his latest fantasy novel.
Was it really necessary to reproduce the original letter? The title itself was enough to gag on. At least give some warning like “The following may cause extreme gastronomic expulsion”.
So what the pope is saying is that the God that created Heaven and Earth, Parted the Red Sea, flooded the earth, was involved in countless miracles, and to Christians had his only begotten son be crucified, died, and be buried, and only to rise again to save mankind, is not capable of creating a system that can handle the increase of 1 molecule of co2 out of 10000 molecules of air over a 100 year period. His very stance on this re-enforces and likely to the delight of many, that the whole concept of God is a big fairy tale. As so often happens, it is dark forces from within that destroy what is meant to be good. If the concept of God is beyond belief, I can understand why people would think that. What I cant understand is how this pope doesnt see how he is undermining his church’s own teaching. Is, or is not God all powerful, and did, or did he not give man dominion over the earth. If so then the fact that global progress has skyrockets in the fossil fuel era, the geological time record shows no linkage between co2 and temp speaks volumes as to the deception that has engulfed the catholic church.
Joe,
I have read a great deal of your work over the years. I know that you care about this earth. I know that you would never pour motor oil down a street drain, release a tide of arsenic into a river or burn down a forest. I know that you wish well for this earth.
I think that you and me and most of us agree with the pope that we wish well for the earth on matters of stewardship.
I will pray for this beautiful gift of ours and I will do my best to keep it beautiful for my children. I know that you may do so as well Joe.
I will not ask God to do the absurd. I will not ask the maker of all things to act against his own design and rid us of CO2, a plant food, the basis of human life. I will not ask God to save us from global warming since it has been the warming of the globe since the last ice age which has contributed to the gift of life. I will not ask God to help the people who hate human life to advance population control measures and harm the poor people in the 3rd world. I will not ask God to advance the interests of socialism.
It is appropriate for the world’s religious to pray for our benefit, whether it manifests or not.
Inside the mess of the intent of the encyclical is both good and profound error. Pollution is bad. OK. But CO2 is not a pollutant.
I believe that this great earth is perfect and that, overall, humanity, via everyday use, can’t harm earth. Nuclear warfare is another thing.
I will pray (I really will) that God’s will be done, on earth, as it is in heaven. I do not know what constitutes the will of God. nevertheless, His will be done.
Well most of the encyclical is great. I am curious as to how some of the popes new friends are reacting to other parts, oh lets see, how about the veneration of Mary, or some of the other stances that to most of us that still believe the Catholic Church is part of Gods plan to spread his word, take so seriously, but they laugh at. Look the road to hell is paved with good intention. There have been many popes that instead of focusing on God focus on the waves around them, the problems of the world and try to solve them. This ranks up with some of the profound missteps that have led to the schism in the original church, which by the way I think overall is a good thing since it begat many sects of Christianity that reach for God above with a grassroots fervor that does not come from top down dictation. I have shown 2 charts which renders the papacy defenseless, the hockey sticks of progress in the fossil fuel age and the factual record of co2 vs temps over the last 10k years. I thing William Briggs idea that they may be doing this to gain “relevance” with many younger, now brainwashed people, has validity. In any case I dont believe this decision is with both feet in the city of heaven, but instead made with one foot in the city of man.
Joe,
I see that you also perceive shades of gray smear in all of this. The organism that concocted this horrendous mess is the UN and I think Francis may see evangelization opportunities in the disaffected greens in the city of man. And! there are creepy hangers on ie, the Malthusians and the Liberation Theologists who find kinship in the Francis brand of stained glass. 85% of the encyclical is, like you said, pretty good and is absolutely an affront to the leftists. They will drop Francis at the first opportunity, AFTER, they get what they want and at the first sign of resistance on population control. Cheers.
If He fails we still have Allah.
It is tactless to remind His Holiness of a geological time. His world is only 4,000+ years old.
Nope. The Church invented, acknowledges and advances the Big Bang Theory, invented by Father Georges Henri LeMaitre PhD (physics) in 1923 which places the modern universe at ~13.5 billion years old.
That is not true. The church’s position is that time as we see it and God sees it can not be discerned. We are finite men, seeking to define the infinite. None of us know the mind of God and the story of the creation is certainly open to debate as to exactly a “day” was given that before all this, there was no day, nor anyone to observe it. I am openly critical of the pope on this, much of the reason having to do with his ignoring of faithful that have another opinion in making his decision, but there is no reason to pile on. Let todays troubles suffice
Joe, Check out Robert Spitzer’s SJ presentations on creation and the Borde Vilenkin & Guth theorem. It is refreshing to see a competent polymath like Spitzer doing his thing.
If God answers prayers surely he will answer the pope’s prayers. So I think climate change mitigation is as simple as a prayer. If the pope is serious about climate change all he has to do is pray.
yup
Well, that was easy; Scorched earth and boiling seas, averted…. NEXT….
Thanks for publicly advocating reason and facts Mr. Bastardi. Although I know the risk is real, we need more scientists and public figures to do the same.
What kind of dope to they smoke to choose the Pope. It must have been quite a smoke fest as considering how long the smoke rose from the chimney. Is he chosen by the principle of “the last man standing” or the only one not yet OD’ed?
I’ve heard that the wine cellar at the Vatican is pretty amazing …
Pope Francis is just as narrow minded and dogmatic as predessors who persecuted Galileo! The mainstream climate scientists are rubbing their hands with glee at the unscientific gobbldigook the pope believes!
This Pope has made the same error as those in the Church who persecuted Galileo – not by being anti-science, but by accepting as spiritual truth the reigning scientific consensus.
The Bible does not call on Christians to be anti-science, but to be skeptical of those who believe science demonstrates that there is no God:
1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith.
SR
Ah, but the Pope has followed the findings of modern day Galileos.
When Galileo found new evidence through the use of the telescope, he proposed new hypotheses which were confirmed by further research. And as modern day scientists have found evidence of Man-caused Climate Change, they formulated new hypotheses which were subsequently confirmed by further research.
In Galileo’s day some rejected the new findings because they contradicted preconceived notions of the physical world –just as those on WUWT reject the findings of modern day science because they cannot grasp the idea that man’s burning of fossil fuels is warming the climate.
As the medieval thinkers died out, they were replaced by those who embraced Galileo’s work. Just as today’s reactionaries will also be replaced by a younger generation, of which 80% today accept AGW.
I’m sure that Galileo once said the same thing as many are saying now: ‘Good riddance to the old f**ts!’
Actually there was no scientific consensus that reigned in Galileo’s time that contradicted Galileo. He was the scientific consensus. The church was not following anything “scientific” at all.
What they are doing now is the opposite of in Galileo’s time; they are going with the scientific consensus.
The poor US Catholics: they are told “no abortion” (vote GOper) and “no warming” (vote Dem).
trafamadore says:
Actually there was no scientific consensus that reigned in Galileo’s time that contradicted Galileo. He was the scientific consensus.
Read, and learn something.
@ warrenlb,
You think you’ll out- live us old f**ts ?
The only reason you can even make such a comment is because you are not forced to speak German or Japanese, but feel free to enlighten us anyway.
warrenlb says:
…those on WUWT reject the findings of modern day science because they cannot grasp the idea that man’s burning of fossil fuels is warming the climate.
If I had a dollar for every baseless assertion like that emitted by warrenlb, I’d probably be retired on the beach in Tahiti.
For years I have asked warrenlb and others to simply post a verifiable measurement quantifying just how much “man’s burning of fossil fuels is warming the climate.”
Response: *crickets*
In other words, warrenlb’s entire argument is composed of baseless assertions like that. I have no doubt that he believes in MMGW. But on this “Best Science” site, it’s “Put up or shut up.” warrenlb’s baseless assertions and appeals to authority are amusing, but by themselves they are completely unconvincing. We need measurements quantifying MMGW. We need that data.
But warrenlb has yet to put up a single measurement quantifying MMGW. His religious belief in MMGW is like the Pope’s, except the Pope admits his belief is based on faith, not on scientific measurements — while warrenlb pretends he understands science. Of course, he doesn’t; he can’t ‘put up’ any measurable evidence, because he has none.
Like the skeptical scientists of today, Galileo was persectued for going against the people who controlled the academy, publishing, and the courts. And like today, there was good money, praises and awards to be had for going along with the consensus.
It’s an absurd notion that an increase in tiny fraction of 1% of the atmospheric CO2 will destroy the planet. And the data agrees. CO2 levels have been wildly higher in the past, but none of the catastrophies they prophesy now occurred.
In fact, ardent Communists have admitted that the Green movement is a fraud designed to overthrow Capitalism, and that to explains why they use slander, lawsuits, persecution and fraud to advance the cause. That’s not empirical science. That’s political science.
can’t someone just tell him he is wrong
Yes. Many of us have written many letters telling him that the UN’s position regarding CO2 is flawed. I urge you to do the same.
I just watched Michael Mann interviewed on Real Time by Bill Maher. Sickening lack of serious questions, sickening “consensus” lies, same old BS. Mann said that Germany is doing GREAT with solar and wind and actually getting 30% of it’s energy from renewables. “We still have time to save the earth” says Mann. “The biggest carbon polluters are China and the U.S.” Mann claimed that 34 serious scientific organizations are on board with the “Consensus”. WTF gives this ass permission to presume his superior authority about the climate when so much is “NOT Settled”? Where does his authority come from? Is he getting paid or is he just a delusional idiot who cannot admit there are many who disagree with him who are standing on firm ground. What gives him the authority or superiority to put fear into peoples minds and lives without a real consensus when he knows the “consensus” is a lie…That the science is not settled? He is a real piece of human waste. I guess the “Authority” has spoken and he can’t deal with rejection or legitimate questions about his scientific guesses.
Imagine interlocuting with the impossibly complex and mysteriously incomprehensible maker of all things?
Quite honestly, I am not sure how to do that. Do I just think it in my head? Do I express my thoughts aloud? Do I imagine a scenario and desire it? I really doubt my own skills in this matter. As such, can anyone? And can we all do so at the same time in aid of a political objective?
I yield to Blaise Pascal’s wager and will default to practicing good but I am not so sure that socialism is an objective truth, worthy of my extreme efforts to accomplish a pitiable result.
WHAT “ecological crisis”? 100+ comments and no one asked?!
It was the first thing I noticed.
We always said it was a ‘religion’….fairly understandable that the Poop should want to get in on the act.
I was baptized a Catholic before I had the wherewithal to speak for myself. As a non-practicing Catholic, I see this declaration in light of caring for the whole of creation including the wonderful sources of oil and natural gas and coal that have accumulated within and upon the earth, and I think of the wonderful connection of life small green entities feeding larger creations up the food chain. The diatoms, the plants the fishes of the seas including those mammals that chose to return to the ocean and those creatures that we haven’t yet studied, plus all those voiceless green things that inhabit the earth may their food source be every increasing – CO2, plus all the animals, reptiles, and insects that depend and thrive upon this complicated web of connected lives. For this I will pray, the weather and climate I will leave in god’s hands as I believe it is too complex to be significantly influenced by the hand of man.
“If wishes were horses, beggars would ride “.
Maybe, but when did it turn out to be ones life’s ambition ?
The fact that I own EXXON stock in no way has influenced me in my belief that oil is worth praying for.
Is the Anti-Pope recommending a charitable donation to the Rothschilds for participation in this prayer day?
And who does he recommend praying to?
Tuesday, July 28, 2015
Neo-Catholics Should Celebrate Satanists’ Religious Freedom; Commit to Dialogue
Vatican II: Satanists Worship the One God?
http://www.remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1892-neo-catholics-should-celebrate-satanists-religious-freedom-commit-to-dialogue
Catholics: “Remove that status of a being with a goat’s head, it offends us deeply.”
Satanists: “OK, but first please remove your statue of a man nailed to plank with blood dripping from him, that is simply revolting.”
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/55375372.jpg
In Canada we call it he “Labor Day” weekend. a bit of a give away.
For those who are into prophesy is it not interesting that the #1 political and the #1 religeous leader have joined in a plan to change gobal governance? Just asking.
Max
A problem with prophecy is that it is multiply applicable according to interpreter(s). One thing for sure is: the number of prophecies and the number of situations and the number of prophesiers and the number of natural situations is large enough to make it quite probable that someone gets it right.
Nostradamus and Scripture have nothing in common.
SR
Scripture also prophesizes a coalition between northwestern Iraq, Syria and Egypt that attacks Israel (not Armageddon). Is it not interesting that ISIS seeks just such a union of territories?
SR
In about 1 hour, I an heading out to a dark corner of Gloucester Massachusetts to watch the Perseids visible at 2 AM in the NE +/- 2 hours. I hope it isn’t cloudy.
This means that AGW is now officially a faith. Belonging to the Green Church and real world science has left the building.
Now its time to remove all those ugly three armed agw symbols from the face of the planet as the believers now have their Roman Church to go to.
I suggest that all north African invaders that are flooding into Italy claim they are climate refugees and ask for transport directly to Vatican City.
Surely this pope would never turn a blind eye to human suffering. He can sell off all the church riches and provide room and board to all comers.
Good point
Please ask the Pope this:
Why is there still ice in Hudson Bay and James bay?
http://www.natice.noaa.gov/pub/ims/ims_gif/DATA/cursnow_usa.gif
J. Philip Peterson
August 12, 2015 at 9:17 pm said:
Please ask the Pope this:
Why is there still ice in Hudson Bay and James Bay?
————
Mr Pope: “Global warming is why. Now down and give me 50 hail Marys”.
Anthony says: My view: God helps those who help themselves. If the planet is going to hell in a handbasket as they claim, praying about it won’t do much good.
Ora et Labora
1) If he can get 2 billion people mobilized… to do something…by way of a communal act, like prayer, then something just might happen.
2) God does not do the bidding of man even if asked to do so. God is..Omniscient. He may well turn UP the heat if that what He wants.
Me? I am asking for clear skys to view the Perseids.
To deny the poor cheap energy
Does that give the Pope a thrill?
Perhaps he should pray for
The millions it will kill!
http://rhymeafterrhyme.net/a-communist-pope-but-are-the-poor-rejoicing/
Delusional
a : something that is falsely or delusively believed or propagated
b : a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary; also : the abnormal state marked by such beliefs.
Hence people who are religious and believe in (their) god and AGW are delusional.
Regards
Climate Heretic
PS. Something to watch about: Delusional
If the Pope accepts “CO2-Climate Change” as a component of the Catholic Religion, then ~”Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of Religion.”
very sly
5 pages from Reuters – it’s because the Church is conservative!
12 Aug: Reuters: Richard Valdmanis: Insight – Pope’s climate push at odds with U.S. Catholic oil investments
But some of the largest American Catholic organizations have millions of dollars invested in energy companies, from hydraulic fracturing firms to oil sands producers, according to their own disclosures, through many portfolios intended to fund church operations and pay clergy salaries…
http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKCN0QH0ED20150812
Perhaps the pope has not yet read “The War Prayer” by Mark Twain. It is a well-written suggestion to be careful for what you ask of the Lord.
http://warprayer.org/
Yep, be careful what you ask for, because what you get will be what you asked for. But, it may not be what you wanted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwWCXVb6bSc
“Oh Lord, open the Pope’s eyes!” -paraphrasing William Tyndale
Hmm – but he did open the Pope’s eyes, and the Pope had him burned at the stake. Nice organisation, this Catholic Church….
Ralph
Praying will help if your Christian but aside from prayer u also can’t just wait on a miracle u have to act
So I guess the rest of us will have to do nothing to save the planet. His chants to his god will do it. perhaps we asked the muslims to ask allah as well. It might work.
Prayer has always worked in the past, hasn’t it?
When the AGW religion comes crashing down will it take the Vatican with it? That would be the ultimate bogof.
Maybe he would be better off in the eyes of all Christians if he asked his God , ” Why is it that Muslims are escaping to Christian countries ?” ( I think God would reply to both questions (AGW & Muslim immigration )
GO LEARN SOME HISTORY!!
Our carbon which art in heaven
defiled be thy name
thy time is done
let thee be buried beneath the Earth and taken from the skies
You gave us this technology and fixed our daily bread
Our trespasses cannot be forgiven even if we forgive those natural processes we do not control
We have been led into temptation and must be delivered from evil
let there be no more kingdoms , power or glory
never ever again.
Amen
Just trying to help out on the new prayer format.
Hail Gaia
Full of Grace.
The guy is definitely kookier than I thought. Let me be the first to suggest the early middle stages of Alzheimer’s. His staff obviously shoves him in whatever direction they want.
POPE FRANCIS — The Useful Idiot
Sings A Famous Religious Song
(I)
I don’t care if it rains and freezes
Long as I got my plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
I’m driving fast to where I’m going
Horn a’honking, headlights glowing
Racing to that global climate war
It’s Armageddon straight ahead!
For just as Adam Smith has said
Creating wealth sets each against all others!
The Covenant within the Ark
Is best fulfilled through Karl Marx
Shared poverty will make us Christian brothers!
(II)
I preach a new theology
Derived from climatology
My altar is the dashboard of my car
I had a vision, went to buy a
Naked, windup, plastic Gaia
I serve Her in the global climate war
For Gaia mends the Trinity
She is the third Divinity
God feminine as Christ was made a male
In all the nations they will herald
The Moving Spirit Of The World!
— Who bobs Her head and shakes Her tail
Eugene WR Gallun
Since AGW is a religion, it is only fit and proper that it has a day of prayer.
And AGW should also have a saint too, and I would suggest St. Mann of State Penn.
And it needs a liturgy too. I would suggest three Hail CO2s and a Hail Methane, before kneeling before the Great Arcticus and delivering the Sermon on the Glacier. The two priests would then turn to each other and give the Warmist knuckle to knuckle Grip** and the secret Word – ‘Polybear’. The other priest would reply ‘Pass Polybear’….
Ralph
** Because the Great Arcticus got frostbite and lost three fingers.
If you do not kneel and pray before the god of climate, he/she will smite you down where you stand. Simite you down I tell you. Kneel! Kneel! Pray!
oops forgot the /Sarc because I was being sarcaastic … ouch! just got Smit.
“September 1st to be a day of global warming prayer”, pontificated Francis. :0)
The days of praying to God about weather are over; Man controls weather now.
The Pope is participating in the destruction of his church.
Speaking as a Catholic this Pope is falling all over himself to play shaman to the political chiefs. A central criticism of liberation theology is the role of the church in keeping the masses compliant. In typical fashion the critics have learned best the uses of the things they criticise.
Jesus nailed to the hammer and sickle indeed. That photo explains irony to perfection.
Is it just me or does this seem like it is being given a higher priority than the plight of all the women and girls who have been taken captive by ISIS and now are being sold as sex slaves? (that is, after all their husbands and fathers have been murdered)
The real question here is whether of not the Church of Global Warming will allow their message to be taken up by this more traditional religion an possibly lose control of the message ?
Secondarily, whether our secular government will bite and descend from “Separation of Church and State” to use this “useful idiot” ?
How large would the crowds be if we took the exhumed body of JPll on a world tour.
This is all we need. Just as the world is on the cusp of cooling, the religious nutters start a prayer fest. This means they’ll take credit for the changes when it significantly cools. that said, it’s a balancing act: if we drift into another mini-ice-age they’ll have to start praying the other way. Must avoid prayer tipping point.
How adults in this day and age can still believe in this mystical nonsense – and worship some fool in white robes – is beyond me.
Ho There is no god
Ha There is a god
I can’t see the null hypothesis being falsified, somehow….
How to Counter Religion’s Toxic Effects
Wilson’s classic, On Human Nature, challenges the world’s science enterprise to explore the underlying genetic and cultural determinants of religion, which, he argues, “are powerful, ineradicable, and at the center of human social existence.” Wilson contends that the human mind necessarily creates morality, religion, and mythology and empowers them with emotional force. “When blind ideologies and religious beliefs are stripped away,” he theorizes, “others are quickly manufactured as replacements.” His strategy for countering toxic religion then is to rationally harness what he calls the “mythopoeic drive” to inspire humanistic social outcomes and to concede that “scientific materialism is itself a mythology defined in the noble sense.”
Wilson’s newest book, The Creation: An Appeal to Save Life on Earth illustrates a way to harness the mythopoeic drive. The book takes the form of a letter to an imagined Southern Baptist preacher from whom he seeks cooperation on dealing with global environmental threats. His strategy here makes no attempt to change the pastor’s commitment to God’s revealed word. Rather, he redirects the pastor’s understanding of scripture as creating a duty to save humanity from global warming. The implied logic here is that God loves humanity and wants us to save ourselves from self-created threats. But to earn the preacher’s trust Wilson must concede that he too shares the mythopoeic drive. In order to cooperate, he and the pastor must learn to understand and tolerate the fact that each must make decisions that align with their respective mythic frameworks. Thus Wilson reduces the philosophical chasm to a routine matter of religious tolerance in a pluralistic society. He is then able to say to the pastor: “You and I are humanists in the broadest sense: human welfare is at the center of our thought.” And while the book is Wilson’s monologue, we can imagine the pastor responding: “You and I are God-fearing in the broadest sense because we care about humanity’s future.”
http://thehumanist.com/magazine/may-june-2007/features/how-to-counter-religions-toxic-effects
Curb your enthusiasm
High priests, holy writ and excommunications – how did Humanism end up acting like a religion?
In his Pulitzer Prize-winning book On Human Nature, he declares explicitly that Darwinism is a new mythology replacing the old religious forms. The story is now a familiar one:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/06/25/apocalyptic-fear-mongering-sometimes-rush-limbaugh-is-right/#comment-1972315
E.O. Wilson Quotes
“Science and religion are the two most powerful forces in the world. Having them at odds… is not productive.”
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/07/04/an-ecologists-perspective-on-pope-franciss-encyclical-letter/#comment-1979059
I wonder how much of our tax money they paid the pope to spew their madness. This is just a way for the catholic church to make up for the money they are loosing to their declining numbers and income.
The Pope has effectively jailed Galileo a second time because it was he who began the sunspot count and gave all of us the reason as to why the Earth cools and warms in cycles.
Oh for christ sake. If current leaders spent half as much time on issues that actually exist. I think we have have a presidental runner that is gaining popularity telling us he will combat mostly things that don’t actually exist. It seems to be a good tactic. Our current president ran such a campaign.
Next he will start building a cathedral for Gaia, paid for by Carbon Indulgences. Al Gore will be head of the Carbon Inquisition.
Lord help us all.
Catholics are big on suffering. Looks like God’s plan is to make people like myself have to suffer and be constantly embarrassed by this pope’s craziness. Sigh.
Francis, do us all a huge favor and stick to theology – please! You were put in that chair to help people prepare themselves for a glorious existence not of this earth – not to be an obnoxious mouthpiece for fraudulent junk science. Good grief.
…and deliver us from policy over reach evil.
Meanwhile, behind the curtains we have a free for all with the money…
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-13/frankfurt-prosecutors-charge-eight-bankers-in-carbon-tax-fraud
With the combo of one upmanship and severe over reach style, the 99 percent will be harmed in the end.
There is absolutely nothing new here – I don’t do it any more, but I used to study ecclesiology all the way back to the Avignon Popes and a bit before. The Pope may have drunk some kool-aid on warming, but he certainly hasn’t on pollution or on habitat destruction, etc etc, and this goes right to a very traditional view of humanity as shepherds for creation with a duty to treat it well.
If you MUST politicize it, think of it as a license for shiny new nuke plants. 🙂
The Pope is confusing the natural environment with the Garden of Eden.
God kicked us out of the Garden of Eden and left us to contend with Mother Nature. Hardly a friendly act. Mother Nature is no friend of humans. Without technology modern humans can survive only a few days in the wild.
We were told by God to go forth and multiply. If the Pope could really speak with god, he would hear him saying “good job, well done, now use that intelligence I blessed you with for some birth control”
“Use your skills wisely,” the Almighty would say. “It has long been known that the best way to limit population is to improve the living standards of the poor.”
He might also point out that His earth, properly tended, could support many more people than it does at the present time. The “need” for birth control does not exist. The need for proper care of the planet does.
(And that does not mean following every greenie fad that comes along. It does mean taking action against those who commit genocide and those who selfishly restrict others’ access to the necessities of life — are you listening, EU and USA?!)
I suppose it only makes sense the pope would promulgate global warming. After all, it relies on faith, castigates heretics, and strives for powerful, behavioral control, as does Catholicism.
Richard,
Why confine your comment to Catholicism? You have described all religions.
There is a quid pro quo here but none of the participants have the courage to say what the deal is.
…or honesty.
We’ve been down this road before. Elements of Paganism were incorporated into Christianity, particularly with holy days (especially Christmas and Easter), as a means of both “bringing them into the fold”, and destroying a rival religion. Gaiaism is rooted in paganistic ideas, although in a twisted way, since man is viewed as antagonistic towards “mother earth”.
How this will play out is anyone’s guess, but suffice it to say, this appears to be an extremely unholy alliance.
I’m not sorry to say this as a Catholic. I do not like this Pope. He has been very divisive for the Church. And Jesus Christ must be puking in heaven. I have no respect for this Pope. He should be forced to watch the following video:
The Pope? I mean, really, THE POPE??? This is 2015. We always thought that AGW was just superstition. Now we know for sure.
Ok, where to begin with this? Needless to say mosquitoes, hornets, wasps, poison ivy, and bed bugs are part of creation. Am I to take care of them? You bet! I spray ’em, squash ’em, poison ’em, every opportunity I get. So, when our dearest Francis proclaims an ecological crisis (which hasn’t killed anybody that I’m aware of), and bloviates about taking care of creation is it all inclusive or is he making exceptions?
Ah, but he is. He’s just not saying. But, rest assured it isn’t any of the above because those aspects of creation make us miserable. Only the aspects of creation that we truly enjoy would these killjoys not want us to take care off. You know that, and I know that, and Francis knows that. Heck, it was an aspect of nature, of creation, that I made certain to take care of every single day when I was a teenager. Sometimes a few times a day. Jeez, I actually had to become ambidextrous to take care of it.
And that is the only aspect of creation these bizarre simpletons object to. The misery part – that they love.
For others, of course.
Is this the payment plan for getting six F-16s stationed in Turkey to protect Christians in the Middle East? I do think the WH demanded something in return for favors to the Vatican and that something is getting in line with the AGW scare schedule of almost daily events and media plants. It’s the old pay to play game.
Looking like Khrushchev was right (though perhaps not quite what he had in mind): “We will bury you!”
Looking like Khrushchev was right (though perhaps not quite in the manner he had in mind): “We will bury you!”
Yes, it’s a shoe-in.
Well, the Church is no better in science (Galileo) than in morals (Savanarola). I don’t listen to those idiots any more.
September 1st – hereinafter to be known as “September Fools’ Day”.
Hey look! It’s AlGore in his brand new, gas-guzzling Goremobile!
September Fools!
You are all welcome at the nondenominational bible churches. It is unfiltered words and inspiration.
There is no “ecological crisis which humanity is living through”. However, there is an economic crisis.
So which eco activist group will be elevated to become the green Jesuit enforcers?
I suggest that we declare “victory” on Sept 2nd and get the Pope onto other priorities.
…and THEY mocked US when we pointed out that Global Warming Alarmism had strong religious overtones.
Any religion that needs a Pope to keep the “believers” in line is a religion unsure of itself.
In my experience real Gods provide personal guidance. No need for intermediaries.
What sins against the world is the Pope referring to? Am I sinning against creation by doing what God designed my body to do, which is to exhale carbon dioxide? Am I required to “go and sin no more” to obtain his mercy for that sin?
Am I sinning when I use the fossil fuels that God designed the earth to produce, or did He put them here just to tempt us? Is it okay with the Pope if my prayers on Sept 1 include thanks to God for the gift of the earth and all its bounty, which includes abundant fossil fuels? Or should we pray for God to take that gift from us because the Pope doesn’t like it? Wouldn’t God be offended by such lack of gratitude? After all, God’s gift of fossil fuels is what makes life for billions of people on this planet possible. Without it, the blessings of education, science, and modern civilization itself would not be possible. Is the Pope not thankful for all these blessings? In any case, I sure hope His Holiness is not offended when I use his new Day of Prayer to thank God for such wonderful gifts.
I do not believe the Pope Francis is an “idiot” or “without moral authority” as has been noted above, those are emotional reactions. But why the Pope would launch himself into an international political argument with an encyclical that is so wrong on the facts, pessimistic, and overly emotional is a mystery to me. The Popes criticisms of Capitalism leave me wondering upon what his world view is based.
The United Nations Millennium Goals Report for 2014 provides statistics showing great progress in lifting the condition of the world’s poor, the real emphasis of the encyclical.
http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals/2014%20MDG%20report/MDG%202014%20English%20web.pdf
For example:
-Since 1990 extreme poverty has been reduced by half.
-Between 2000 and 2012 an estimated 3.3 million deaths from malaria have been averted, and since 1995 22 million deaths from tuberculosis.
-Access to improved drinking water for 2.3 billion people since 1990.
-Achieved gender parity for education in most regions of the world.
-Though much remains to be done: Chronic under nutrition among children has declined, child mortality has been halved, ¼ of the world’s population has access to improved sanitation, 90% of children in developing countries are attending primary school.
It is indisputable that great gains have been made in the environment as well. Crop yields have dramatically improved, in part thanks to increased CO2, making significant gains against hunger possible. GMO crops, another “green sin”, fertilization and irrigation also have contributed greatly.
Does anyone believe these improvements could have occurred without industrialization? Could this industrialization have occurred under feudalism, socialism, or communism? History has shown that only Capitalism can provide an economic environment conducive to the growth and achievements’ described above. The primary driver of that economy is energy, fossil fuels, the great Satan of the CAGW cabal.
Bad actors do and will exist in any economic model, but they are better controlled under capitalism than any of the others, particularly when operating as part of a democratic society. Markets and the political process will control or eliminate the bad actors eventually. Not a perfect system, but all other economic /political systems allow endless abuse of their populations (Korea, Iran, Cuba, and former USSR).
Pope John Paul II devoted much of his life to the defeat of socialism having grown up under the oppression of its abuses. Why would Pope Francis now seem to favor it? Did Pope Francis, having lived in Peronist / Pinochet Argentina mistake that for capitalism?
I think Pope Francis sees CAGW as a means to redistribution of wealth. He seems to view economics as a zero sum game, in which a wealthy economy can only grow by poorer economies shrinking. Nothing could be further from the truth. As Jack Kennedy once said “a rising tide floats all boats”. The gains noted in the United Nations Millennium Report would not have happened without the technological advances of the developed economies and the fossil fuels that have driven them.
After all, I once read, “we are not living in a safe climate that is becoming dangerous due to the use of energy, we live in a dangerous and variable climate that we have made more livable by the use of energy”. Sorry, cannot recall who said this.
And when the world stop on the 1st of September and prays for Global Warming how many Christians and Yadizs will the Islamic State have slaughtered by the end that day
901 –
(Via Vatican Radio) Pope Francis has decided to set up a “WorldDay of Prayer for the Care of Creation” which will be celebrated on September 1st annually.
On trail of Giovanni ‘santa subito’ Paolo II.
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ok with me; Paul, the rock on which the church is built, just a mere ‘Santa’. Subito, my God!
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Santa Francis guarded by martyrs Obama and Merkel.
With their annual 901 till the end of time.
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Maybee.God.Thinks.Of.Retirement.
from care of creation.
Hans
I think it should be also a public holiday so we could all drive around in circles
http://blog.heartland.org/2015/08/naomi-klein-admits-in-her-climate-change-screed-that-global-warming-is-all-about-anti-capitalist-polemics-and-has-nothing-to-do-really-with-science/
It is really disappointing to see the Pope team up with such obvious frauds. If/when Congress finally does take an honest look at this fraud, and the world continues to cool, the Pope will make himself and the Catholics that follow him look like fools. Out of all the scientific issues that he could focus on he chose the greatest fraud in modern history. For the CAGW crowd to be correct God would have had to had created a doomsday bomb with CO2. There is no natural doomsday bomb. We have 600 million year of history to prove CO2 doesn’t cause CAGW.
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/PageMill_Images/image277.gif
The Pope is promoting a “science” that will greatly expand the control of the individual by the Government. The Bible is largely a story of people fighting against Government Tyranny, and pursuing freedom and a homeland. Jesus was tacked to a cross by the Tyrannical Pharisees and their collusion with the Roman Occupiers. Marx is famous for his “Opiate for the Masses” comment, and the first thing communist governments do is stamp out religion.
Being very religious, I will be praying … for MORE warming.
It’s interesting that the Pope pontificates about harmless global warming, but completely ignores this ongoing holocaust.