Guest essay by Joe Ronan
Today we see another set of meetings in Rome. One is that of the Pontifical Academy of Science, and the other the Heartland Institute. Both organisations are hoping to influence the widely heralded Encyclical from Pope Francis that will include references to climate change. Given that the text of the Encyclical has already been finalised, and is currently being translated, there may not be much that either party can do to affect it’s content. The headlines they are making will be building up expectations on both sides, and it’s worth having a closer look at the background to an encyclical.
What is an Encyclical?
Simply put, it is a circular letter written by the Pope to the Church which forms a part of the Ordinary Magisterium or teaching of the Church. It is not a formal statement of the type that is regarded as infallible doctrine, as it usually deals with moral guidance and the application of existing doctrine to current matters. In the past encyclicals have dealt with such subjects as war and social issues of all types.
What will this one cover?
Despite the emphasis being put on climate change in the press, it’s unlikely that the central part of the document will concern itself with just that subject. Rather it will treat that as one factor among many in what Pope Benedict XVI called ‘human ecology’, a term that Pope Francis has adopted enthusiastically. It will touch on many aspects of life for the poor and vulnerable, including the misuse of economic power and the many injustices that man visits upon man in our world.
Is the Pope endorsing a particular view of climate change?
In the coming encyclical, the indications are that it will certainly include some discussion on how to react to the planet’s continually changing climate. On this issue, (as a non-scientist with some technical training) he will be largely dependent on the advice of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences which has made a number of statements on this topic.
The PAS is in turn dependent on interpreting the IPCC 5th Assessment Report (AR5) which was completed in 2014 and is a wide ranging review of the known science and data on the subject.
So the starting point will be a largely accepted position that the climate has warmed and that at least half of this change is very likely due to man’s actions. *
Is the Church making pronouncements on Science?
The Church is accepting the judgements of it’s scientific advisers. There is of course precedent for the scientific consensus to be wrong, and the Pope seems to be well aware of this as he mentioned in a press conference on his flight back from the visit to Korea in August 2014;
“But now there is a rather difficult problem, because, up to a certain point, one can speak with some assurance about safeguarding creation and ecology, including human ecology. But there are also scientific hypotheses [to be taken into account], some of them quite solid, others not. In this kind of encyclical, which has to be magisterial, one can only build on solid data, on things that are reliable. If the Pope says that the earth is the centre of the universe, and not the sun, he errs, since he is affirming something that ought to be supported by science, and this will not do. That’s where we are at now. We have to study the document, number by number, and I believe it will become smaller. But to get to the heart of the matter and to what can be safely stated. You can say in a footnote: “On this or that question there are the following hypotheses…”, as a way of offering information, but you cannot do that in the body of encyclical, which is doctrinal and has to be sound.
So there is clear recognition here that anything that depends upon hypothesis is unlikely to make it into the main body of the document.
If so, do Catholics have to believe everything he says?
The encyclical will have the status of the ordinary teaching authority of the magisterium, so is not lightly put aside. This works both ways of course; one of the reasons that Pope Francis makes the comment quoted above is that he is conscious that what is written needs to be correct, and will have gone to some trouble to identify those issues which are subject to change and interpretation.
A great problem is that many people form an opinion on a document or an issue based on press reports, or other third party interpretations. These can be very selective in nature, and often ‘spin’ the substance of the document in very creative ways. There is no substitute for reading a document in it’s entirety and understanding the full case that it puts. A Catholic has a duty to fully inform his or her conscience about what the Church teaches, and then (and only then) act according to their conscience or ‘moral compass’. The Catechism of the Catholic Church (892) and Lumen Gentium (para 25) make it clear that the full documents have to be considered in their context and character and reference that to other speeches and writings in order to fully inform themselves. A good example is that of Humanae Vitae, the encyclical that dealt with contraception. There are many people who say they disagree with it; considerably fewer who have actually read it!
Is this science, religion or politics? Is the Pope calling for specific policies or changes in behaviour from Catholics?
The Pope has made it clear that one of his great concerns is the welfare of all humanity, and particularly the poor and vulnerable. The encyclical will no doubt deal with many aspects of human behaviour with respect to dealings with our neighbours and with the environment and so will impact on all areas of our thinking and behaviour, including in the areas of science, politics and religion. This teaching will likely give particular moral guidance, but will not deal with the specifics of policy or attempt to ‘take a side’ with respect to political systems. It will require a Catholic to consider the teaching, and to apply that in an informed way to their decisions and actions in their everyday life, including in the political sphere.
Is this going to cause controversy and division in the Church?
It is certain that in the days after publication there will be many words spoken and written across a wide range of commentators that will highlight particular lines, phrases, or even short sets of words, that will be set up to indicate that the Pope and the Church advocate this or that policy, or political system, or stance on other matters. This will in turn lead to counter pieces, refutations, re-analysis and re-interpretation ad infinitum particularly since many groups have specifically stated that they are looking for the Holy Father to produce a document that will strengthen their particular world view.
This is all good. The whole point of an encyclical to engage in teaching and to spark debate; to encourage thinking deeply into an issue and to question ourselves and our own actions. It is very easy to look at such a document in terms of how it supports a particular political viewpoint. But Popes generally, and Pope Francis in particular have a habit of ploughing their own furrow, and not being aligned with a particular way of doing things. Rather they look to inform each of us individually as to how to live our lives, and govern our own actions in the light of Church teaching. We, each of us individually, are asked to read and understand the teachings as they apply to us, not as we think they apply to others.
Personally, I expect that what is written will be fully in accord with, for instance, the concerns highlighted here recently on the way poverty stricken people are denied access to life saving energy sources.
One thing is certain, the coming encyclical will contain a lot of surprises to people at all points on the political spectrum. And it will challenge us all to look again at how, in a practical way, we love our neighbour.
*Summary for Policymakers (IPCC-AR4, vol 1, page 10): “Most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.”
Joe Ronan is a Catholic with a science background in analytical chemistry. He resides in the UK.
Oh great, the church is getting involved in consensus science.
Yes, and will burn Bruno at the stake again. (He was the first real modern astronomer who lived in Prague before Galileo came along much later…Galileo surrendered to the Pope and wasn’t burned, instead he lied about science).
Argh. And the modern liars visit the modern Pope hoping he will shut up the modern scientists.
Argh. The modern Scientists who also lie, and the modern anti-human greens, will visit the Pope, hoping he will shut up the rational few. I doubt he will axiomatically do so. I expect temperance.
Don’t be too quick to take Bruno as a hero. He was a bit of a twat. But didn’t (quite) deserve his fate.
FYI… Yes Bruno was an arse. and..Bruno was not condemned for his defence of the Copernican system of astronomy, nor for his doctrine of the plurality of inhabited worlds, but for his theological errors, among which were the following: that Christ was not God but merely an unusually skilful magician, that the Holy Ghost is the soul of the world, that the Devil will be saved, etc.
Just keeping the ignorant informed.
Wasn’t this the church that invented the “Devil’s advocate”? If they use one now, there is hope…..
You gotta love a Bruno. I mean any guy that writes a book titled “On the Expulsion of the Triumphant Beast” while he’s in exile and being sought by his persecutors who are applying huge political pressure to the country he resides in has CAJONES!
They accepted the consensus the last time, and there were some pretty good reasons for that consensus.
1. If the Earth moves, we will see regular variations in the distances between the stars. (This would result from parallax effects.) We don’t see any variations. Prediction falsified.
2. We have a functioning mathematical model based on the geocentric theory. We can use this model to make pretty accurate predictions.
3. Can Galileo give a good account of how this telescope thingy actually works? We know empirically it works on terrestrial objects, but how can we be sure that it works on heavenly objects as well? And if we can’t be sure that it works on heavenly objects, how can we trust his data?
“Blasphemy!
“All I said was that this meal was good enough for Jehovah
“He did it again! You’re only making it worse for yourself”
You’re floundering a bit … the ‘meal’ was ‘halibut’.
But given that was your sole error, it was probably just a fluke.
+100
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A flake? Flukes invoke thoughts of those cuddly whales.
All flukes are flounders, but not all flounders are flukes.
Flukes and flounders are types of flat-fish. That means that, while they started life swimming upright, during the larval stage they lay on either their left or right side, and the eye facing towards the bottom migrated to be top-facing.
So, some flat-fish are right-side-up (their left eye migrated to the right side), and some are left-side-up (meaning that their right eye migrated to the left side).
Generally speaking, left-side-up flounder are called flukes, and right-side-up flounders are called flounders.
“So the starting point will be a largely accepted position that the climate has warmed and that at least half of this change is very likely due to man’s actions. *
*Summary for Policymakers (IPCC-AR4, vol 1, page 10): “Most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.”
So there you have it…the science is settled and history repeating itself? Lets hope not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair
Newsel, What do you mean? How is history repeating itself? In 1585 Copernicus published his book on Heliocentic Solar System. Pope Paul III accepted it as a theory. The Church listened to one of its scientists. Then in 1633 Galieo wrote his theory, which neither he, nor anyone else could prove. His theory was that the planets orbited in a circular path around a FIXED sun. A theory that was already known and accepted as possible 60 years earlier. Galileo was asked if he could prove that the sun was fixed. He admitted that he could not prove that. Nor could Kepler or anyone else. But Galileo did something else. He said that the sun was the center of the “COSMOS” as a philosophical assertion, thereby violating his relationship with the church as the teaching authority on religious matters. See Galileo stepped out of science and entered the realm of philosophy. That is what angered the Pope who used to be his pal.
So how is the fact that the present pope, by listening to most scientists, with whom I disagree btw, is repeating what happened in 1633? I don’t see your point.
Paul, It was a stretch but I was just trying to make a point that “Science acknowledges reason, empiricism, and evidence, while religions include revelation, faith and sacredness. These methodologies are totally different.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_between_religion_and_science
For example: in 2014 the EPA funded a “study on “The Role of Faith-Based Organizations”. Hate to think where this could be heading….the EPA preaching from the pulpit with the backing of the Pontiff? I would prefer that the any and all religious bodies stay out of this debate and not expose those bodies to abuse as propaganda outlets for either side of the debate.
EPA Study Objective: “Climate change—which affects traditional faith-based efforts to improve human health, mitigate poverty and redress social inequity….More Americans belong to religious groups than any other type of voluntary association and faith communities play an important role in facilitating the kind of social transitions that are necessary as the nation responds to climate change.“
http://cfpub.epa.gov/ncer_abstracts/index.cfm/fuseaction/display.abstractDetail/abstract/10407/report/0
Well said, Paul Westhaver.
Newsel,
I understand you now, but I don’t accept the premise. Western Universities grew out of the Churches (Charlemagne’s Church Schools) out of desire to educate the public and learn and discover how God’s world operates. Faith and reason are intertwined in the RC Church and always have been. The false separation, as per wiki, does not exist and I dismiss it on its face.
Visit the Vatican’s observatory or the Pontifical Academy of Science web Site or visit the Center for Faith and Reason. http://www.magiscenter.com
Have you never read The Summa? The 14 Volumes will only take you 2 years non stop. It is the foundational work for all of western reasoning, which you are using right now. BTW. Thank a fat “dumb ox” called Thomas d’Aquino.
Who invented the Big Bang?
Paul,
“See Galileo stepped out of science and entered the realm of philosophy. That is what angered the Pope who used to be his pal.” Question: Was Galileo’s belief in heliocentrism and his support of Copernicanism “philosophical” or based on observation, geometry and mathematics?
Newsel,
You must be aware that the Pope during the Galileo trials was Galileo’s greatest supporter, Pope Urban VIII, formerly Cardinal Barberini. He got Galileo a pension in Rome since Galileo was not a natural citizen of Rome.
Here is the quote of Cardinal Barberini’s position wrt heliocentrism (which was previously adopted by the Church after Copernicus) in a letter to Foscarini. (First Trial)
“I say that if a real proof be found that the sun is fixed and does not revolve round the earth, but the earth round the sun, then it will be necessary, very carefully, to proceed to the explanation of the passages of Scripture which appear to be contrary, and we should rather say that we have misunderstood these than pronounce that to be false which is demonstrated.”
He was referring to Joshua. ie the biblical description of the movement of the sun across the sky.
Now Galileo could not prove a fixed sun and a moving earth and admitted so, and he agreed to not publish in the vernacular and not to publicize it until he could prove it, necessitating a review a Joshua.
Well Galileo, despite his contract said that Joshua was wrong. That provoked a violation of his contract in his first trial… initiating a second trial. He just pissed of the people who were helping him.
The Church never condemned Copernicanism. Rather it shelved it until i could be proven.
Galileo was a Copernican. In a letter to Kepler 1597 he admitted that concealed that view to avoid the ridicule from the scientific community and the protestant reformation biblical literalists, not the church authorities. His contemporary scientists colleagues rejected Copericanism except for Kepler and a few others.
Galileo observed the phases of Venus and dispelled the concept of “transparent planets” indicating an orbit of Venus around the sun, but he never generated a proof. The important contribution of Galileo was his reliance on empirics to prove hypothesis. That was his greatest contribution the science. Bear in mind that he suggested a whole boatload of things that turned out to be nonsense so it was hard to separate the wheat from the chaff.
If Galileo could offer objective proof to his theory (Copernicaism) then he would have been off scot free. He was unable to generate proof but he just kept yakking when he agreed not to.
The Church NEVER condemned Copernicanism. Some people in the Church did as well as nearly every scientist of Galileo’s day. It was a new idea and new ideas are…new.
Paul,
If I read you correctly Galileo spent the last years of his life locked up because he had an hypothesis which he floated and which “pissed” off the Pope? Now, more recently, where have I heard that before? From what I can ascertain the RC considered him to be a heretic. “He was tried by the Holy Office, then found “vehemently suspect of heresy”, was forced to recant, and spent the last nine years of his life under house arrest.”
Does not sound like a philosophical difference of opinion to me nor do I buy your assertion that the matter was shelved until it could be proven at a later date. The man observed, calculated and suggested an hypothesis contrary to that being espoused by the omnipotent RC Pontiff and his buddies. No doubt he was his “best friend” while he was just trying to deflect the message. Machiavellian?
Now, given today’s debate, do you see my point?
Newsel,
You are ignoring the central point and I wrote it out so diligently with my 4 fingers!
1) it wasn’t the Pope.. the Pope was his friend. The Pope got him a pension and a luxurious apartment down the hall from the Pope. They were friends. He wasn’t imprisoned. He was living in the Papal palace.
2) He pissed off a lot of people especially the Holy Office who were very busy with a flaring protestant reformation.
3) His science wasn’t judged as wrong initially. It was his claims about the book of Joshua that got him in trouble.
4) He was house arrested because of a breach of contract regarding vernacular disposition of his UNPROVEN heliocentricity, which all other scientists declared as crap.
5) After his second trial, he was imprisoned.
6) He was not imprisoned after the Copernican Hypothesis was prohibited because of lack of proof.
You said” The man observed, calculated and suggested an hypothesis contrary to that being espoused by the omnipotent RC Pontiff and his buddies. ”
Not True. At the time the church had ALREADY adopted Copernicanism. So they agreed. It wasn’t until he wrote out the implications in the common language ( Italian I think) and declared Joshua wrong that he got into trouble.
That isn’t me saying that. That is the historical record.
You may not like that version, but I can’t help that.
Paul,
Taking one bullet at a time:
*It wasn’t the Pope.. the Pope was his friend. The Pope got him a pension and a luxurious apartment down the hall from the Pope. They were friends. He wasn’t imprisoned. He was living in the Papal palace.
Alleged friend and he had zero access to the outside world for the last few years of his life – sounds like prison to me.
*He pissed off a lot of people especially the Holy Office who were very busy with a flaring protestant reformation.
I’m on the side of Henry the VIII on this one.
* His science wasn’t judged as wrong initially. It was his claims about the book of Joshua that got him in trouble.
Book of Joshua: “The needs of the centralised monarchy favoured a single story of origins combining old traditions of an exodus from Egypt, belief in a national god as “divine warrior,” and explanations for ruined cities, social stratification and ethnic groups, and contemporary tribes.”
And he had a problem with that line of thinking? I’m with Galileo on that one.
* He was house arrested because of a breach of contract regarding vernacular disposition of his UNPROVEN heliocentricity, which all other scientists declared as crap.
Help me out here: just what is a “hypothesis”?
* After his second trial, he was imprisoned.
For what? Being a squeaky wheel?
* He was not imprisoned after the Copernican Hypothesis was prohibited because of lack of proof.
Again: Read hypothesis.
Paul, your theological education has messed up with you line of reasoning.
Here is the way it works. People chat back and forth and eventually the truth is revealed.
I laid out a pretty accurate accounting of the case for Galileo and for the Church. I laid out the science and the scripture and the politics with good historical references. References that you and everyone has likely never seen before. They are objectively reasonable. Others have told me so.
So what to make of you and what you just wrote?
I don’t see any new facts, I see just an empty opinion from a person who is hostile the the RC Church and quite possibly invincibly ignorant.
What you wrote betrays your state of mind and undermines you earlier pretense of civility. So I will allow your ad homena define and polemic rhetoric define you. Thanks for facilitating a broader education of the Galileo canard. We have all enjoyed it.
Paul W
Well presented and factually correct. What is remarkable is how completely the story of Galileo is misrepresented as a way to mocking not just the RC Church but all religious systems. The strangest claim, to me, is the idea that religious matters are not susceptible to scientific enquiry.
I see it repeated here at WUWT again and again that ‘there is science’ and ‘there is religion’ as if there is nothing factual in religion, and everything ‘scientific’ is factual.
There is no shortage of fact-free science and charlatanry, just as there are religious quacks making money on TV. Neither disqualifies the truths in science or religion. They should work more together on the calculus of the Golden Rule.
Paul, civility is a two way street…”Here is where you discover who the ignoramuses are and are not. Hint… they are the first to drag out Galileo.” Although it may have been a stretch, I just happen to disagree with your interpretation of history and how Pontification may impact today. Thanks for the chat.
Paul Westhaver on April 28, 2015 at 6:04 pm
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Paul Weshaver,
I think you are naïve in thinking that the Roman Catholic Church’s (RCC) account of the treatment of Galileo can be accepted without at least two other non-RCC sourced corroborations of what happened; one being Galileo’s account and one being a third party’s account. Galileo’s account was intimidated under duress and restricted less he be further subject to the Inquisition. There is a limited third party’s account.
Here is a passage regarding assessment of Galileo’s treatment by the RCC from one of the best and more objective histories of Christianity (Paul Johnson’s ‘A History of Christianity’ (1976). Be patient in reading the assessment because the story of Galileo’s treatment by the RCC is, according to the research of Paul Johnson, related to and influenced by the RCC’s judgement and treatment of the Hermetic philosopher Girodano Bruno.
Galileo was brutally treated for his scientific ideas and scientific work, it should not be pretended that he wasn’t out of desire to protect the image of the RCC.
John
Reminds me of this;
The primary question is does the earth revolve around the sun or around CO2, which is the center of the universe.
“If the Pope says that the earth is the centre of the universe, and not the sun, he errs, since he is affirming something that ought to be supported by science, and this will not do. ”
If, according to big bang theory and mainstream cosmology, the universal space is expanding equally much in every location you could say that there is no center or that every location is as much at the center as any other. And, if so, the Pope would be right in saying the earth is the center of the universe. He would just be failing to mention that so is the Sun and Mars and Andromeda…
Joe Ronan,
I just read this presentation. Thanks. It was right on the money and very helpful. It is worth mentioning that the PAS is made up of some non believers.
I believe that the Pope is wrenching this topic out of the hands of the UN-IPCC. I hope he succeeds. It will be less definitively an advocate of CAGW for sure.
Good job.
Would you do another article? One that addresses the anti-catholic and anti-human forces within the green movement and how they are in fact the enemy of the RC Church? I think you are equipped for such a task!
Tim Ball’s article touches on it.
I would very much support that idea, Paul.
One thing that has been sorely lacking in this whole long-lasting, miserable saga has been a proper in-depth analysis of the extent to which the modern environmental movement has turned against humanity itself in a way that none of the established religions — in which I include Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism and Sikhism — could, if they are serious about the tenets of their faith, condone.
If Joe has the time and the skill I would hope he would be prepared to do the necessary research and produce a definitive paper on the subject.
newminster,
I invite you to join me, and several others on this page, hopefully Tim Ball (just read the similar comments) to tabulate all of the anti human efforts by the green movement since the 1900s. I think it would make a best seller!
Two of the world’s leading pro-abortion advocates were addressing a Vatican workshop on the environment today.
At the same time, a press conference at the Palazzo Cesi, in Rome, organised by the Heartland Institute, was addressed by two leading SPUC officials on behalf of Voice of the Family, warning that the population control lobby was advancing its agenda by means of the workshop held today by the Pontifical Academy for Sciences.
http://spuc-director.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/leading-global-pro-abortion-advocates.html
Thank you Paul.
I will probably do something on the released encyclical, and have a few other subjects in mind. Trying to cover the whole green movement would be quite a task, not sure if I’ve time for that, but I’ll keep it in mind, it may fit with some other ideas I have.
I’d like to help if you do go after the whole ball of wax. I have the time and inclination. Contact me through Anthony if you want to get started. Also, we should engage Tim Ball.
Joe Ronan on April 28, 2015 at 3:33 pm
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Joe Ronan,
Are you related to C.A. Ronan who wrote the book ‘Galileo’ (London, 1974)?
John
If the religion of man-made climate change can assimilate the mainstream religions of the planet, and the benevolent God of the new testament becomes the angry God of the old testament, salvation through works will replace salvation in the sacrifice of Jesus, and faith in the government will replace faith in God for many of the mesmerized masses. Of those who refuse “the mark of the beast” many will believe the anti-christ has arrived as prophesied in the revelation of St. John.
I cannot find in the bible where God commands us to prioritize saving the this temporary habitat which He owns (and He only can control), above saving and caring for the souls and bodies of our fellow children of His!
Please allow me to reiterate my poem to Papal perspective:
Those who would be global planners,
Speak in agitated manners.
Moaning of impending doom,
Like Debby Downer in the room
Incessantly they go on preaching:
“Children, guilt we should be teaching!
For we’ve sinned, by overreaching
Mother Gaia’s limit!”
Men of true theology
I’ve never known, who cannot see
This earth does not belong to ye,
Who only live here in it.
The planet then, is God’s alone
And all its elements He owns!
Perplexing mortal-man’s control,
And vexing now, the Papal Soul.
If God has commanded us to use the earth wisely, should our wise usage benefit the world he has provided and maintains, or should it benefit mankind? That is what I see as the theological question, from my talks with my dad who was a Lutheran minister and chaplain for 63 years.
Reblogged this on Head Space and commented:
Make way for the new inquisitions
Wait. Wait. You’re saying you DO expect the Spanish Inquisition?
Will there be Comfy Chairs?
Only if other skeptics like Giordano Bruno are made martyrs for science
The Pope is going to stand on the balcony of one of the biggest palaces on earth and tell us we have to live in Tiny Houses (aka: huts) and not use the Popemobile or Popejet to move around the planet and so the Pope and his gang of buddies living in huge palaces and flying private jets can live like kings and queens while we peasants freeze and starve to death!
Just like in the good old Medieval Times…except is was WARMER back then! Now, it is much, much colder.
The “Church” is dead. Cannabis is a healing medicine. The Pope is against healing with it. What kind of Christianity denies healing and comforting the afflicted? Catholicism has give itself over to the pursuit of power. Well what else is new? It has been that way since Nicea.
You know who endorses healing with that medicine? The Jews. And the occasional Christian sect. But don’t even mention the subject to Southern Baptists. Making God into the Devil does take some talent. So there is that.
Pot is a healing medicine? The west coasters I know point to a doubling of Schizophrenia rates for those kids who smoke pot. Is that a fact or not? It makes me cautious.
Cannabis, correctly used, has therapeutic properties and I am not aware that the Catholic Church has made any pronouncement on the subject though I imagine its use as a recerational drug where that is contrary to the law would be considered sinful.
In the Bible, there are a number of scriptures against getting drunk, but there are none against drink itself.
Jesus Christ’s first miracle was at the request of his mother Mary to turn water into wine… at the wedding at Cana? Ya know what happens when a bride and groom have wine?!!!
Having visited San Francisco during the 60’s, I can guess that many of those who smoke pot were already crazy as loons before they took their first toke.
Some of the US patents on cannabis for medical uses. BTW, A schedule I drug is defined as having no medical use:
USPO search results terms: cannabinoid and Alzheimers: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=0&f=S&l=50&TERM1=cannabinoid&FIELD1=&co1=AND&TERM2=Alzheimers&FIELD2=&d=PTXT
USPO search results terms: cannabinoid and lung cancer: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=0&f=S&l=50&TERM1=cannabinoid&FIELD1=&co1=AND&TERM2=lung+cancer&FIELD2=&d=PTXT
USPO search results terms cannabinoid and Lyme: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&f=S&l=50&d=PTXT&OS=cannabinoid+AND+lyme&RS=cannabinoid+AND+lyme&Query=cannabinoid+AND+lyme&PrevList1=Prev.+50+Hits&TD=127&Srch1=cannabinoid&Srch2=lyme&Conj1=AND
pot..omg possibly the most overrated thing since the american lawn. well they both are grass
M Simon:
Nicea was just a dust-up. It only got serious in Chalcedon in 451. When Leo I passed away in 460, therafter things were really different. Leo accomplished what Innocent failed to do in 405 AD, and without the help of Pulcheria, a woman, he would not have pulled it off.
Remarkably, Plus XII was still trying to nail down the final corner of the carpet on central authority in the 20th Century. That indicates the RC Church has been more democratic than many of it’s critics admit, for 1400 years. Not too bad, all things considered. Many have accomplished a lot less.
I look forward to a sensible statement on Climate from the Pope that places our fellow man at the centre of our concerns, not carbon dioxide. That’d be good, all things considered.
Let’s all have a pot smoke-in! 🙂
Something similar to this can be found in Catholic writings:
“For you always have the poor with you; but you do not always have Me.”
If this is true, then the only way to achieve equality is for everyone to be poor.
I’m in favor of going the other way.
Abundant and inexpensive energy will be needed.
Tell the Pope.
Who said that equality was an objective?
“Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of misery.”
I think that’s “Trickle up Poverty”.
Comprehensive, right on target thoughts presented objectively from a source that’s very knowledgeable.
Thanks Joe!
It is unfortunate that our Pope has so very little understanding of economics. His worldview boarders upon the socialism that was tried and found wanting in the 20th century. His economics is a horror for the poor that he is trying to help. Oh well. As an outcome of his socialistic economic views he will call for policies that will hurt the poor even more with his coming statement on cAGW. Oh well again.
Amen, Mark.
Correct on both counts. They are probably related lines of thinking in these seemingly different policy areas. The 5 percent of the population and personality types that create and drive companies onward and upward are already hard pressed to deal with the money grabs now. Carbon taxes and equivalent cost increases will not go un-noticed in the math of these companies. Jobs and expansion rates are the likely symptoms, in a world already showing the ill effects of aging populations in developed country markets.
There is probably a quid pro quo somewhere here with Obama and socialist Europeans to get something in return. Such manipulation of international institutions already undermined the World Bank to the point of the Chinese starting an alternative development bank in protest. It probably goes like this–It you want U.S. military help for Christians in the Middle East and Africa, it will cost you something in the lip service category.
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There is something else afoot in the Pacific Rim which is a twelve member trading block the US is promoting. It is apparently not doing so well because it binds the members to rules the US will set. It is worth investigating. Did you see recent cries of alarm from the US worrying that it was not getting finalised? If it fails and the east Asians create a different trading block with China involved they can create their own rules. The new finance bank is related to this.
If Obama wants to drive carbon trading through the wording of trade agreements it will meet stiff resistance in the East. They don’t feel guilty about much like the West does. Watch that space.
As long as he runs it past Cardinal Pell there shouldn’t be a problem – he saw through the scam years ago.
He is not a fan of Pell’s in spite of Pell heading the new “Ministry of Economics”.
I think you’ll find that the sceptics (Pell, Burke, and a couple of others) will be the last people Francis would listen to, simply becaus they are who they are.
The Pope should be concentrating on the assault on Christianity instead of this nonsense that will adversely affect the poor as previously mentioned.
It is the assault that he is dealing with in providing lip service to Obama in return for military assistance where needed.
It’s a great photo at the top. The Pope is in full finger-wagging flow, and the face partly obscured by his elbow is set in an earnest frown of supporting moral indignation.
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Thanks, Joe Ronan. Excellent article.
“The whole point of an encyclical to engage in teaching and to engage in teaching and to spark debate; to encourage thinking deeply into an issue and to question ourselves and our own actions.”
I see nothing wrong with that. Lets hope that is what comes out, but I’m still pessimistic about it.
There seems to be a lot of assumptions about what Pope Francis will say. I can’t help but have my own (educated?) guesses, which agree with much that has been stated recently.
It’s certain, based just on the fact that there are 1 billion of us Catholics, that this will be huge…….. no matter what he says and the interpretations, as Joe stated will be all over the place.
However, we should try wait until hearing exactly what the pope says.
The Pope’s job is to preach and teach about Jesus, not to get involved i political matters.
If he starts talking about earthly matters instead of heavenly matters, he besmirches
his purpose for living.
I just hope it doesn’t turn out this way..
Re: Climate change encyclical, 4/28/2015
So the starting point will be a largely accepted position that the climate has warmed and that at least half of this change is very likely due to man’s actions. *
*Summary for Policymakers (IPCC-AR4, vol 1, page 10): “Most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.” Bold added.
Continuing,
The standard terms used in this report to define the likelihood of an outcome or result where this can be estimated probabilistically … . AR4, Box 1.1: Treatment of Uncertainties … , p. 121.
… the following terms have been used to indicate the assessed likelihood, using expert judgement, of an outcome or a result: Virtually certain > 99% probability of occurrence, Extremely likely >95%, Very likely > 90%, Likely > 66%, More likely than not > 50%, Unlikely < 33%, Very unlikely < 10%, Extremely unlikely < 5% (see Box TS.1 for more details). Bold added, AR4, SPM, p. 3, fn. 6.
But now,
A level of confidence synthesizes the Chapter teams’ judgements about the validity of findings as determined through evaluation of the available evidence and the degree of scientific agreement. The evidence and agreement scale underpins the assessment, as it is on the basis of evidence and agreement that statements can be made with scientific confidence (in this sense, the evidence and agreement scale replaces the ‘level of scientific understanding’ [LOSU] scale used in previous WGI assessments). There is flexibility in this relationship; for a given evidence and agreement statement, different confidence levels could be assigned, but increasing levels of evidence and degrees of agreement are correlated with increasing confidence. Confidence cannot necessarily be assigned for all combinations of evidence and agreement, but where key variables are highly uncertain, the available evidence and scientific agreement regarding that variable are presented and discussed. Confidence should not be interpreted probabilistically, and it is distinct from ‘statistical confidence’. Bold added, AR5, ¶1.4.4, p. 138.
IPCC, mortally wounded by its failed AGW model, has moved away from what was already subjective criteria, e.g., judgment, deeper into the subjective, dropping even the appearance of objectivity: not … probabilistic[]. Modern Science is a mapping of (existing) facts onto (future) facts, where facts are observations reduced to measurements and compared to standards. IPCC, lest its model be judged by the MS standard of predictive power, has discarded the ultimate standard, the probability distribution of its facts. IPCC has slid down the slippery slope into the climatology quagmire that gave us AGW, a branch of Post Modern Science.
But just the idea that the upcoming encyclical might be postmodern is a revolutionary notion for the Roman Catholic Church.
“Have no respect whatsoever for authority; forget who said it and instead look what he starts with, where he ends up, and ask yourself, “Is it reasonable?”
– Richard Feynman
Okay, that’s a keeper and I’m starting a more organized Feynman quote collection.
Didn’t Feynman borrow from this?
http://izquotes.com/quote/296611
Why should I believe that? 🙂
/trollfeed
“God is no respecter of persons.” Acts 10:34.
Should we be, unquestioningly? See through your own eyes and hear through your own ears. Nullis in verba.
If the Catholic Church endorses AGW, will the billions of non-Christians not then be compelled to reject AGW in a knee-jerk reaction? Especially if it means denying billions their abundant, cheap power in order to save some gay baby whales and polar bears?
I think you mean LGBTQIA baby whales …
Your penis needs a time out, followed by some sensitivity training, anger management, vulvar role-playing, essential oils, aroma therapy, and a gluten-free game of Earth Ball, in which the only rule is there are no rules (except for that one, which is enforced at gun-point).
I’m trying to work the Pope and the Club of Rome into a single sentence but it isn’t working. I’ll be interested to see how the Pope addresses poverty and energy use in the same encyclical, which he should. After all, so many Catholics (especially the ones who look to the church for help) are extremely poor and increased energy use has been a serious wealth creator.