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World’s Leading Scientific ‘Skeptics’ of Man-Caused Global Warming
Invite Public and Press to Open Events April 27 and 28 Just Outside the Vatican
The Heartland Institute is sending a team of climate scientists to Rome next week to inform Pope Francis of the truth about climate science: There is no global warming crisis!
Monday, April 27, 1:00 p.m. GMT +2 (7:00 a.m. ET)
Hotel Columbus
Via della Conciliazione
33 – 00193
Rome, Italy
A slate of independent scientists and policy experts offer a “prebuttal” to the Vatican’s April 28 “Climate Summit.”
Tuesday, April 28, 1:00 p.m. – 2:30 p.m. GMT +2 (7:00 a.m. ET)
Palazzo Cardinal Cesi
Via della Conciliazione n. 51 (Piazza S.Pietro)
00193
Rome, Italy
Climate scientists and policy experts lay out a detailed case explaining why climate science does not justify the Holy See putting its faith in the work of the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
Both events are open to all press and the general public. Go to Heartland’s Vatican Environment Workshop page for real-time updates, presentations, and podcasts.
For more information, please contact Jim Lakely at jlakely@heartland.org (preferred) or 312/731-9364 (in Rome beginning Monday, April 27) or Gene Koprowski at gkoprowski@heartland.org or (office) 312/377-4000 or (cell) 312/852-2517 (in Chicago).
The Pontifical Academy of Sciences on Tuesday, April 28 is hosting a workshop titled “Protect the Earth, Dignify Humanity” to “raise awareness and build a consensus” among people of faith that human activity is causing catastrophic global warming. The Heartland Institute – the world’s leading think tank promoting scientific skepticism about man-caused global warming – is bringing real scientists to Rome next week to dissuade Pope Francis from lending his moral authority to the politicized and unscientific climate agenda of the United Nations.
The Vatican’s summit features two men – Ban Ki-Moon, secretary-general of the United Nations, and Harvard economist Jeffrey Sachs – who refuse to acknowledge the abundant data showing human greenhouse gas emissions are not causing a climate crisis and there is no need for a radical reordering of global economies that will cause massive reductions in human freedom and prosperity.
Heartland’s experts will send this message to Pope Francis: Please do not put the enormous weight of your moral authority behind the discredited and scandal-prone United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Instead, speak out for the poor and disadvantaged of the world who need affordable and reliable energy to escape grinding poverty.
“The Holy Father is being misled by ‘experts’ at the United Nations who have proven unworthy of his trust,” said Heartland Institute President Joseph Bast. “Humans are not causing a climate crisis on God’s Green Earth – in fact, they are fulfilling their Biblical duty to protect and use it for the benefit of humanity. Though Pope Francis’s heart is surely in the right place, he would do his flock and the world a disservice by putting his moral authority behind the United Nations’ unscientific agenda on the climate.
“People of all faiths have a moral calling to continually seek the truth,” Bast said. “That is why Heartland is sending a contingent of real scientists to Rome next week. We are bringing the Vatican a message of truth for all with open ears: The science is not settled, and global warming is not a crisis. The world’s poor will suffer horribly if reliable energy – the engine of prosperity and a better life – is made more expensive and less reliable by the decree of global planners.”
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Tell him the benefits of preventives also. – They could actually help in releasing less human induced CO2 to the atmosphere….
We need more CO2 not less.
The Church doesn’t believe in preventives. It believes in abstention. It’s only a matter of time before they declare exhaling CO2 a sin.
jorgekafkazar April 25, 2015 at 11:45 am
The Church doesn’t believe in preventives. It believes in abstention.
Think about that comment, jorgekafkazar.
If the Catholic Church believed in abstention rather than ‘preventives’ (is that American for artificial contraceptives, or specifically condoms?) there would be no next generation. I don’t suppose that you meant to, but you are confusing two things. (Don’t worry, it is normal practice for non-Catholics to make confused comments when they comment on the Catholic Church.) The Catholic Church teaches two things which are relevant to what you are saying. The first is that sexual relations should be confined to people who are married to each other. That is called chastity. Thus people who are not married to each other should abstain from sexual relations. That’s your abstention. The second thing is that sexual intercourse should be open to life. That means that no artificial means should be used to prevent conception.
Best wishes for success on this mission. He should be fully willing to listen, or at least one would think that a man of his nature and spiritual outlook would listen with an open mind.
Did you forget the ‘sarc’ tag, or…? An open mind? This is the head of the Catholic Church, goldminor! An open mind? I can’t believe you said that.
Yes, I said an open mind, and I meant that in every sense of the word. I found it hard to understand how he could have arrived at his views on the climate debate in the first place. If he has taken his stance on faith, then he certainly shows that the Pope is indeed fallible. Whoever has advised him in reaching this decision is also derelict in not doing a diligent study to properly inform him of the two sides of the story.
>>Yes, I said an open mind.
Come on, Goldminor.
The entire edifice of the Church is based upon faith rather than facts. In fact, the less facts the better, because facts can be troublesome – both to the Warmist Church and to the Catholic Church.
Ralph
Note he referred to “a man of his nature” and not “a religion steeped in dogma”. We’re not talking Pope Benedict or Pope Urban VIII who turned Galileo over to the Inquistion the second time.
It’s certainly worthwhile to get all sides of the story to Pope Francis.
There’s the problem – right there. He is the man, the Pope and the figurehead of the Catholic Church all in one. As a man, he can be progressive and free-thinking, but be constrained from doing much by the office of the Pope and the conservative nature of the Church hierarchy. I hope he not only listens with an open mind, but has the wisdom to free himself of some of their constraints.
As a man, I believe this pope leans left. Hopefully, at the minimum, he will refrain from lending his authority to the CAGW crowd. To keep from amalgamating religion, politics, and science, the skeptics should also refrain from encouraging the pope to endorse their viewpoint.
But noaa, the position of a “skeptic” is to seek after truth, whatever the source. I hope the Pope is also a truth-seeker for that’s the only worthwhile viewpoint.
I was raised Roman Catholic. I am grateful for that, and for what they instilled in me. On top of that they were excellent teachers, and understood the need for proper disciplining of young puppies. The high school I went to was run by the Jesuits. That was also very good. You learned or you dropped out and went to a public school. I was certainly into the Catholic teaching. I was an altar boy for many years. However, my epiphany came when the time came to receive the Sacrament of Confirmation. I was 12 years old. Being an altar boy, I was to be in the main procession for this ascension to a new level as a Catholic. As such I was certainly excited and filled with anticipation. Yet during the unfolding of the ceremony, I came to realize that what I was searching for was not going to be found on that night. I knew this with all of my being that my path lay elsewhere. And so I went in search on my own, with the gifts I had been given.
I was to receive the true Gift of Confirmation 4 years later. All of my life up to that point, I had only prayed for 2 things for myself. First was for wisdom, and secondly for faith. I received both when I was 16 years of age in the year 1966. Although the fulfillment of the second prayer request was unexpected. I did not receive faith. I received the gift of no longer needing faith to know God.
goldminor, no one’s arguing with that. I am a devout atheist, but I have absolutely no care in what you or anyone else believes. Believe what you want! My point is that the head of the Catholic Church, and Catholicism itself, isn’t, and isn’t ever going to be, ‘open minded’. It’s a contradiction in terms. Religion is a search for comfort, not for the truth. Even you must be aware of that. As such, ‘a’ religion insists that you close your mind to all the other beliefs and to the truth itself. A religion insists that you believe ‘that’ religion! Otherwise you are merely spiritual, and not a member of a particular religion. Do you see?
Sorry to be blunt, but to talk about the head of the Catholic Church being open minded is pure nonsense. And believe me, I’m being as polite to you as I can there! It’s much worse than saying that Michael Mann will look sceptically at the issue of AGW. I’m not criticising your faith (as I said, believe what you want. Who cares, really?), I’m having a pop at your choice of words and phrases. The head of the Catholic Church simply CANNOT be open minded. In this life, you either take things on faith, or you seek evidence. The head of the Catholic Church is the former, I am the latter.
@ur momisugly The Ghost…you sound so certain that his thoughts are fully closed on this issue, and on other issues. Your thoughts are certainly firmly set in stone. It will be interesting then to see what comes from this meeting. Overall, I would think that the odds are no better than 50/50 of the Pope changing his stance. Still, I am an opened minded man myself, and as such I will not prejudge another,s thoughts, absent evidence to the contrary.
Global Warming isn’t about science; it’s about socialism and wealth and power redistribution. I’m sure Francis is perfectly okay with that.
Good luck with that, Heartland…
I hope you speak Spanish…
It seems appropriate to say ‘Godspeed!’
Ah, yes….CAGW “heretics” head to Rome to enlighten the Pope on the fallacies of CAGW dogma…
Historically, such envoys usually ended up with the “heretics” being excommunicated from the Church and a few imprisoned and eventually burned at the stake…
Hopefully, the Heartland envoy will only suffer being excommunicated from the CAGW religious cult…
Pope Francis is very Socialistic and CAGW is a very important doctrine of the Socialist catechism. I don’t see Pope Francis abandoning his strong CAGW religious beliefs, but miracles do happen…
I wouldn’t abandon hope yet. The Catholic Church is no stranger to frauds and corruption in powerful places. The child abuse scandal is significant enough to burn in their memory, and one of the Vatican accounting groups was found embezzling.
The pope should at least be open enough to consider the possibility that he has been lied to by powerful interest groups. There are too many lives at stake for him to simply dismiss this out of hand.
SAMURAI
This pope has his head stuck up Karl Marx’s ass. He needs to pull it out and read the bible from a different perspective.
Eugene WR Gallun
Perhaps there is a different perspective to Pope Francis’ MO. He seem genuinely involved in helping the poor. Truth is that poor islanders were indoctrinated they were hit by global worming, not a weather disaster. So Pope’s reflection to the event was a bit … lacking.
Please give this Pope a chance 😉
Brethren and cistern, let us all pray to St. Plagioclase for a miraculous cure for all sufferers from proctocraniosis.
Eugene– Pope Francis is from Argentina, which is ranked around 160th in economic freedom; just a few place above North Korea and Cuba….
Accordingly, Pope Francis was propagandized from his childhood in the joys of Socialism….
People from oppressive Socialist countries either become strongly anti-Socialist or believe the government propaganda and blame their failed Socialist system on evil capitalist exploitation….
Pope Francis is, unfortunately, strongly in the latter category, so I don’t see the Pope changing his beliefs on CAGW dogma….
Take it to ’em, Heartland!
I pray the Pope…. and the world…. will listen and understand.
I can’t say the Catholic Church has got even a poor record in science, with creationism etc etc. I hope the poor Heartland team aren’t burned at the stake – the common practice of the catholic church for scientist sceptics not all that long ago!
Cardinal Pell, now a senior member of the Pope’s advisory team was a well known climate change sceptic in Sydney before he was summoned to the Vatican. Heartland may do well to seek out Pell’s council.
It is the climate political scientists that are trying to ‘burn the poor Heartland team at the stake’.
Bast says: “People of all faiths have a moral calling to continually seek the truth,” Bast said. “That is why Heartland is sending a contingent of “real” scientists to Rome next week.”
I think the deal with the UN for the Pope to use his influence to sway the faithful towards agw belief was done a while back….dark days ahead…
Isn’t “The Pontifical Academy of Sciences” a contradiction of terms, just like Mr. Moon and Mr. Sachs are a contradiction on scholarship and science (because neither of them are scientists)?
Good for them – at least for trying. This is far too imbedded in the mindset, to expect a change in course just yet. The bandwagon is rolling and the pope and friends want to jump on.
Remember how long it took for the Vatican to acknowledge its errors regarding Galileo!
Kurt in Switzerland
P.S. Pierre Gosselin’s site “No Tricks Zone” is down. Anyone know what’s happening?
Pierre commented on Facebook that it is an Internal Server Error at the host site.
Thx, nzr.
‘The bandwagon is rolling and the pope and friends want to jump on. ‘
They need to be careful not to fall under the bandwagon, ‘twould not be music.
To the moderators – extremely important
Apologies for this off-topic comment, I hope the reason will become apparent.
I have been following WUWT since I first started studying global warming in 2008. I attended meetings for both Lord Monckton and Anthony, and supported them both, on my own blog and on WUWT. In 2010 in fact, I posted the following comment on this blog regarding the disgraceful behaviour of the alarmists in trying to disrupt Anthony’s talk:
Anthony even posted two articles written by me (URLs below). But now, after a period of relative inactivity on my part due to private matters, I return to find that my reputation, both personal and professional, has been trashed here by the behaviour of an anonymous coward signing my name to malicious, fact-free attacks upon other posters (whom in fact, I admire and whose opinions I by-and-large support). None of those articles coming from American IP addresses were written by me. I regard them as deliberate defamation on the part of the coward who wrote them, and if I can obtain proof of their identity they can expect a law suit. Unfortunately, it seems it was generally assumed that I, the real me, was in fact the author of those messages, whose contents I completely and absolutely condemn as the nasty, deceitful rubbish that they are.
However I am a real person, with an on-going history of absolutely honest, argued from the evidence, commentary here on WUWT, which anyone who looks back at the history prior to the attack of the coward a month ago will easily verify. I live in Toowoomba region Queensland Australia, I was for 30 years a lecturer in computer science at the University of Southern Queensland, I retired from the uni in 2008, when I became interested in global warming. My wife and I both met Anthony in Brisbane at the Irish Club in November 2010. In fact we were the first to arrive and welcomed him before the meeting started when he came out on his own before the other speakers and started to set up his equipment. I hope these details are enough to jog Anthony’s memory – certainly the impostor won’t know them. We both have a significant public profile in Toowoomba, 120km west of Brisbane on the Darling Downs, due to my wife Gitie’s efforts in organising the peace-building Toowoomba Languages and Cultures Festival in August each year. This is the City and Region’s largest single one-day event. Gitie was the Queensland State Government’s inaugural Queensland Regional Cultural Diversity Ambassador and for the past two years the State Government has deputised us to go to remote communities on Australia Day to help them feel part of the larger community and spread the spirit of one country, united in peace across all racial and language backgrounds.
In case you are wondering if this is a trick by the impostor, I provide some more details. Since my interest in global warming started, I have authored a real book, Carbon Is Life, available both in paperback and as an ebook, the paperback can easily be checked on amazon.com, where you will find my real name, which I omit here in case it causes this comment to be deleted automatically. You can check it again on my own website, bunyagrovepress.com. If the moderators would like to write to my email as attached to this letter, I will arrange for them to be able to download a copy of the digital edition, in which they will find many comments supporting both WUWT and Anthony himself, including a recommendation in the Resources section. If any of the moderators are in Australia, they will be able to find a copy of the skeptic Quadrant magazine for April 2015 on sale in newsagents right now, with a paid-for advertisement for this book on page 55. Quadrant are quite picky who they will allow to advertise, and they accept my adverts (but not all that many from others!). Also, when Lord Monckton releases the final list of signatories in defence of Willie Soon, you will be able to see my name amongst them – now that is something the impostor doesn’t know!
Gitie and I also run our own blogs: peacelegacy.org, which is about building peace in general, but in practice has been mostly posts by me about the fallacy of the catastrophist warming theory. Anyone perusing that site will easily find many positive references to Anthony and WUWT. We also have a web site about communicating with birds, and about Australian wild birds in general: wingedhearts.org. That site has tens of thousands of bird photos going back to about 2001, and by no possible means can it be considered any kind of deception.
As a serious, skeptical author and scientist who has put in the hard yards to write a serious, science-for-the-layman book about the importance of carbon dioxide to the life cycle, including ourselves, the poor, and wildlife, I am the very last person to go to a string of spoofed IP addresses with BS anti-skeptic rubbish in order to ruin my own reputation. I do hope this is abundantly clear. My comments are always posted from my home in Southern Queensland just outside Toowoomba under my real name and using the IP address allocated to me at the time by the same well-known Australian ISP from the very beginning – absolutely never in my life on any topic have I posted as anyone else or attempted to be anyone but my true self, known to thousands of people in and around Toowoomba, including our city mayor.
As I said, my reputation and my honour, both personal and professional, are invaluable to me, so if what I have said here so far hasn’t yet convinced you that I have been the victim of one of the foulest impersonations imaginable, please contact me at the email address given with this comment (which is not my usual one, in case the impostor knows that one) or, if you doubt that it is genuine, look up my email address on wingedhearts.org and use that. I will be glad to provide whatever extra information or evidence as to my true identity that you may require. As for the future, I suppose I shall always have to log in to post, or the impostor might just start up again.
Lastly a comment about the general situation. We have become used to alarmists threatening us, firing or attempting to fire us, misusing our words, distorting the truth. But now we have a case where at least one of them is actually creating a complete false “history” to defame one of us and break apart our goodwill towards each other, splitting us apart one by one. Is this a result of that one person’s hatred of me alone, or is it a part of a larger scheme to find ways to wreck the work of those of us who, all differences aside, are united in wishing to know the truth? One thing for sure. If it succeeds, it will be copied.
(And yes, this comment appears under my real name – my middle name, which I usually omit.)
References:
The comment quoted above:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/11/15/formal-complaints-against-professor-ove-hoegh-guldberg/#comment-530438
The two articles authored by the real me:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/04/a-simple-analogy-on-climate-modeling-looking-for-the-red-spot/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/06/03/a-question-of-watts-are-we-heating-the-earth-too-much-with-heat/
Good on you Thomas. I have learnt you have to be vigilant and quick to defend your chosen online moniker. Have had the same done to me on other blogs. But fortunately, adding comments under their comment showed them up. Now the moderators on the blog know enough difference.
You are game man to be a sceptic at a University here. They are so blind with rage at anyone disagreeing, they have started a course at UQ for how to defeat sceptics. How more anti science can you become?
Lastly Cardinal Pell from Australia is a sceptic. He is currently getting the Vatican’s books straightened out. So not all there are disciples of the new Gaia religion.
Sorry to hear about the troll. It’s always frustrating when that happens.
Robert, has your avatar ever been a tree kangaroo?
Brilliant!!
This is going to be INTERESTING!
Who cares what ‘Jorge Mario Bergoglio’ (yes, that’s his name) thinks anyway? I don’t care what he says, thinks, does, or what he doesn’t. goldminor’s comment at the top is the funniest! An open mind??? Er, yeah, ok then.
You seem obsessed, Mr Cooley (deceased), with the idea that the Catholic Church is of its nature anti-science. I suggest you open your own mind on this matter by reading, for example, a history of the Vatican Observatory at http://vaticanobservatory.org/about-us/history
Was not the originator of the Big Bang Theory, Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître, astronomer and professor of physics at the Catholic University of Leuven a Catholic priest?
If you you want to see a list of Catholics who have contributed massively to the wealth of human knowledge over the past 500 years (without any papal interference) try Googling “Jesuit Scientists from the 16th century to the present”.
This may have more to do with what the Church can do to appear more in step with what the kids are into these days, then trying to accurately access a scientific question.
“Then” or “than”?
And the kids are starting to ignore this global warming claptrap. Again the Catholic Church is twenty years behind the times.
Eugene WR Gallun
Yes they are ignoring it. My high school son and daughter, and almost all of their friends completely ignore it. And they go to regular liberal minded public schools.
Their teachers continually tell them that humanity is destroying mother Gaia and CO2 is poison, but they are teenagers, they don’t listen to a word of it. It’s remarkable.
My teacher played a video once and warned the class that all known oil reserves would be completely exhausted if we didn’t reign in our greed. I recall my friend and I rolling our eyes and the finger wagging didn’t stop either of us acquiring V8’s as our first cars when we got our licences.
I should probably add the target for the world completely running out of oil in the video, based on known reserves and projected usage patterns, was by the year 2000.
Surely the much quoted ‘precautionary’ principle would now indicate a ‘wait for a while longer’ to check the temperature record’.
The climate models have grossly overstated any so called ‘global warming crisis.
Near surface temperature record is almost flat for 20 years.
All other temperature dependent parameters show no increase in threat to humanity.
Do ‘decarbonise’ our energy supply will drive the world economy into decline and lead to countless millions of people into real poverty and early death.
Surely what is required is a scientific study to ascertain if we really have a problem with CO2 and cost effective alternative energy supplies.
The Pope should remember Galileo let open science give the final word to direct our actions
Once again Heartland takes the lead in the long, difficult, generally unappreciated effort to correct the horrid distortion of science that has led to this damaging and totally scientifically invalid climate change silliness. Shortly after this expensive effort they will be conducting still another International Conference on Climate Change. This one will be in Washington, D.C. on June 11 and 12th. That event will probably cost them well over half a million dollars. Without Heartland, we climate change skeptics would be scattered, disorganized and almost totally unheard. Thanks Joe Bast and company. You are heroes.
Well said John. I agree, Jo Bast and Co are heroes.
Yes, thanks to the Heartland Institute we have a voice for common sense in the climate debate.
In 1600 the Catholic Church burned Giodarno Bruno alive at the stake with his tongue stitched so that he could not address the assembled ghouls.
His crime? This amazing philosopher and scientist had claimed that the sun, not earth, was centre of the universe.
Perhaps the Heartland team should avoid any reference to Bruno during their visit.
Perhaps the Heartland Institute should remind the Pope that the Church has often been lead astray when it ventured into areas of science and politics, and that great harm and injustice has followed.
And Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they were amazed at Him.
I remind all that the position of the Catholic on the matter of what rotated about what was the ‘consensus science’ for centuries in Western Europe. It is not known as the Ptolemaic system for nothing. I see said here, once again and repeatedly, the claim that the Catholic Church was filled with ignorant beliefs is based on the Church being misled by the scientists of Greece.
Get a grip. Stop blaming the non-scientists for believing what the scientists told them. The Church had no major issues with multiple explanations until Galileo deliberately humiliated an archbishop one evening (as was his wont) and thereby generated a powerful enemy who had a mind to use it.
Like climate charts, be careful about picking historical starting points of convenience. Before Ptolemy the sky was heliocentric.
Point of difference here, Bruno was found guilty of heresy because he denied the Trinity and the divinity of Christ, his views on the universe and its nature were added to the list of charges, but they were not central. Had he simply held those scientific views he would have been, most likely, excommunicated from his Dominican Order. Still, point taken, that the Catholic hierarchy has a history of dealing unkindly with those who question their beliefs.
Yes Mark, If I may modify the last sentence…
“Still, point taken, MOST EVERY GOVERMENT OR RELIGIOUS GROUP POWER ORGANIZATION at that time period in history, has a history of dealing unkindly with those who question their beliefs, AS DID THE GODLESS FOLLOWERS OF MARX AND LENNIN, WHO PERPETUATED THE GREATEST DEMOCIDE, “DEATH BY GOVERNMENT IN WORLD HISTORY.
In this century perhaps the Islamist are the last throwbacks to such a sad chapter in human history. However I do not trust the modern progressive one world government types in the least.
David A
April 25, 2015 at 2:29 pm
“Yes Mark, If I may modify the last sentence… ”
Remarkably, you can kill 50million+ people with your political partisanship and yet in a generation or two, thereafter, recruit three quarters of the the globe to follow this illustrious path. Progressives have prepared the ground by de-educating people over this period so that the slate is clean and the message is attractive. When they said those who forget history are doomed to repeat it, I thought they were talking about a long time ago! I think we rejoiced too loudly when the iron curtain fell – the traffic of ideas and freedom wasn’t one way. Those that lost, found an infrastructure waiting for them and they knew that the loss was only temporary. Socialist blocks like the EU, UN, NGOs, and the 5th column Universities even and perhaps particularly in the US have worked their magic in the quarter century since the so called “fall”.
The majority of ordinary people wanted freedom and the dissidents, but what about those who had no employable skills outside the ideology? Marxist economists, political scientists, psychologists, apparatchik bureaucrats, amazingly found a very receptive world. They are teaching in your universities, they are planners in the UN, the NGOs needed their well honed skills. I think a decent book could be written themed – We opened the prison gates and it wasn’t the prisoners who escaped.
the first question the pope will ask $
That’s what Hillary would do
The pope would do better to focus on the Clinton-Putin connection with uranium ending up in Iran.
I wonder if the Pope has ever seen personally some of the data that is available on the reference pages here and on other web sites. If Vatican protocol allows it might be useful to take in a laptop and show His Holiness the contrast between real data and modelled predictions , and also perhaps the current Arctic and Antarctic sea ice results which to my untutored eye do not seem to be following the CAGW script as faithfully as one might expect.
The Arctic is certainly interesting to follow lately. After setting a record low during what should have been a peak period, it has now trended sideways out of the -2sd level. In another week it might reach the median trend line, if it stays on the current heading.
Yes, very interesting:
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_stddev_timeseries.png
The dip into the -3sd level occurred when the Arctic was sending all its cold air down to North America.
I don’t think mainstream Catholics have taken much notice of various Popes for at least the last 50 yrs so i don’t see the incumbent Pope holding much sway amongst his flock on climate science. I suppose it is good P.R for the alarmists doing the cocktail circuit in Paris later in the year.
The Pope is putting all his chips on 00, when the ball has already fallen into #15. The Church may never recover from this. There are two prophecies that the days of the Papacy are numbered, with one indicating that Francis is the last of the line.
And if a crisis did occur and faith is at issue, my tribe can help y’all out with some swell peer-reviewed rain dances. (For a modest fee.)
I hope they can talk some sense into Vatican advisers and the Pope. The Pope and the Church are being made foolish by the climate doom promoters.
Global Warming: The following questions need an answer:
1. How accurate is the average temperature curve constructed based on interpolations and extrapolations over around 80% of the area where no continuous data series are not available; and where data are available, there is a large difference in density of network – for example in urban areas the density is high and in rural areas the density is low and both areas present large scale changes in land use and land cover patterns with the time.
2. How much is the contribution to the global temperature curve by (1) anthropogenic greenhouse gases, (2) land use & land cover changes, and (3) other factors.
3. Is global warming synonymous to climate change? Or Global warming is a small part of Climate Change?
4. Is climate refers to Temperature only? If not, all other climate parameters are controlled by temperature or other parameters also control the temperature over and above the natural Sun related seasonal & diurnal changes and local changes associated with topographic conditions? For example, just as that of evaporation or evapotranspiration estimates using Thornthwaite model and Penman’s Model.
5. Is natural variability a part of changes in meteorological parameters such as temperature & precipitation?
6. Is natural variability is part of changes in temperature in the Ocean waters and surface temperatures?
7. Why there are step-wise temperature changes since 1851 to date? Is it due to rise in global average temperature synchronized by natural 60-year cyclic variation in temperature?
8. What is the real term impact of local general circulation related impacts on averaging to get global average temperature?
From AR5 “It is extremely likely that more than half of the observed increase in global average surface temperature from 1951 to 2010 was caused by the anthropogenic increase in greenhouse gas concentrations and other anthropogenic forcings together. The best estimate of the human-induced contribution to warming is similar to the observed warming over this period”. That means, 50.1% is also more than half; but it not only includes anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations and also by other anthropogenic forcings. That means the anthropogenic greenhouse gas component is still less than 50%. They are all qualitative but we need an answer in quantitative terms to postulate the associated impact on glaciers retreat, ice sheet melt, ocean rise, etc.
Dr. S. Jeevananda Reddy
more than half of the observed increase
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in other words, they haven’t a clue.
A true scientist would have a figure like 74% +/- 8%. Something that can be calculated, tested and verified.
“More than half” is a nonsense figure. One might as well pull a number out of a hat.
[But it is worse than you think: “Extremely likely it is more than half …” .mod]
IPCC couldn’t be that precise. Their formulation would have to be a figure like 50% +/- 40%.
Actually your first question should be: “Is global average temperature physically meaningful?”
If the answer is no, then the rest is moot.
Is global average temperature physically meaningful?
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spot on. it can be shown that for the exact same amount of energy in and out, the earth can have an infinite number of different average temperatures.
that is because the average is linear while radiation is a 4th power. thus, if you make a small place very cold and a large place slightly warm, the average is unchanged, but the total energy changes significantly.
Dr. Reddy, before plumbing the problems of the spatial relationships and extrapolations from thermometers, we should really decide what it is we want to get from the thermometric network. If it is to detect dangerous increases in world temperatures of 2 to5C, we could get our warnings from a dozen stations in pristine locations around the temperate zone (half way between the no-warming tropics and the enhanced warming polar.. The hot late 1930s early 40s temperatures were detected in US, Greenland, the English CET, the Armagh station in Northern Ireland. This is pretty much good enough. We would use, perhaps three or four more for Asia and half a dozen for the Southern Hemisphere. Is it possible to sneak a global average of 5C, no! 3C, no! 1C, apparently not with these thermometers all showing 0.6 to 0.7C per century.
Also [sea] level. We don’t need any guages at all if the worry is 2 to 6 meters in a century. Probably air photos of a few vulnerable lowlands each decade, or just ask the Nederlands if there is a problem from time to time. No, under the guise of refining the data to detect a signal, the distaster cheering section are simply creating a signal.