Oh noes! Fishy modeling study says 'Fish and Chips' to disappear in the UK

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The Galleon Fish and Chips Shop in Conwy, UK – soon to be doomed by climate change. Source: Wikimedia
I get this daily newsletter from a paid political pot stirrer called “Climate Nexus”, which is actually a Madison Avenue PR firm. They write today of a new paper, Rutterford et al.:

fishy-studyThe punch line from Climate NEXUS:

From Fish and Chips to Just Chips: Some of the most traditional and cherished staples of the English diet may become scarce as a result of climate change, a new study finds. As North Sea waters continue to warm, haddock, the eponymous fish in “fish and chips,” is expected to decline, as well as plaice and lemon sole. Already, the North Sea has warmed four times faster than the global average over the past 40 years.

They claim (using a modeled fish abundance of course) that Atlantic Cod and other species will be significantly affected by “warming seas”.

fishy-study-fig2cThe laughable thing about this study is that they don’t seem to be aware of real-world variables, such as the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO), and its effects on fish stocks, either anecdotally from the fishermen, or from the recent peer reviewed literature, “Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) modulates dynamics of small pelagic fishes and ecosystem regime shifts in the eastern North and Central Atlantic”, Alheit et al. where it is stated:

  • Abundance fluctuations of fish populations correspond to alternating AMO phases.
  • Regime shifts in eastern North Atlantic ecosystems are associated with AMO dynamics.
  • AMO affects Mediterranean fish populations.
  • European clupeoid populations exhibit synchronous multi-decadal changes in abundance.
  • Contraction of sub-polar gyre assumed to trigger synchronicity in fish populations.

And the correlation from that paper:

Fig. 7.  First principal component (PC1) based on the main long-term data sets of small pelagics available in the Eastern Atlantic and Mediterranean between 1945 and 2010. The Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) is superimposed.
Fig. 7. First principal component (PC1) based on the main long-term data sets of small pelagics available in the Eastern Atlantic and Mediterranean between 1945 and 2010. The Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) is superimposed.

They make no mention of the real-world effect of AMO at all in the paper that I can find. It’s models all the way down:

fishy-study-conclusions

At least there’s a small caveat that won’t make into any alarming news story:fishy-study-conclusions2This narrow focus on models over reality might be due to the fact that the lead author, Louise A. Rutterford, is a biologist, and I don’t think the word ‘meteorology’ is in her vocabulary.

Fish and chips are far more likely to disappear due to the actions of nanny-state food police like Bloomberg who think none of us should be allowed to eat fried foods, than to disappear because of human-caused climate change.

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Joe Chang
April 14, 2015 8:30 am

On a business trip to London 15+ years ago, at dinner, all the English people ordered Indian, steak or something. When I ordered fish & chips, they all laughed at me. I gathered that they fish and chips so frequently in their schools years that they were never going to eat it again.
In any case, Atlantic cod on our side was severely depleted years ago, and has not recovered since.

Reply to  Joe Chang
April 14, 2015 8:39 am

Cod are a primary food source for those cute, fuzzy, furry, seals. The ones that 30-40yrs ago were quite a rarity, worthy of an hour drive to the islands on the coast of Maine to see the seals. Now?…they’re everywhere.
Might that have had an impact on cod?, as has been covered here on WUWT before?
Also, there are (at least WERE in the 90s) more than a few boats in the Portsmouth/Kittery area of the NH/Maine coast that were commercially fishing for dogfish (sand sharks to the rest of us) which were then processed and shipped over to our friends in the U.K. to be used for…..wait for it…
Fish and Chips 🙂
I’ve had it…and it’s pretty good 😉

Bubba Cow
Reply to  jimmaine
April 14, 2015 9:59 am

perhaps they can ship the sand sharks in with the wood pellets . . .

Charlie
Reply to  jimmaine
April 14, 2015 10:04 am

Dogfish and brown shark. That is correct. The seals are everywhere. The are even by the Verrazano bridge most of the year now

Peter Charles
Reply to  jimmaine
April 14, 2015 10:56 am

Indeed I remember it well. It used to be called rock salmon and was always my choice from the fish and chip shop when I was a kid in the 50s and 60s. It was particularly delicately flavoured, at least compared to Cod. You did not have to worry about bones either.

David Chappell
Reply to  jimmaine
April 14, 2015 4:08 pm

Having dissected lots of dogfish preserved in formalin in my school and college years, I have difficulty in persuading my lips to get around them as food.

Reply to  jimmaine
April 14, 2015 8:39 pm

I doubt it tastes much like Cod though.

artwest
Reply to  Joe Chang
April 14, 2015 10:29 am

It gets harder to find a traditional fish and chip shop by the year whereas 40 years ago virtually every tiny village or high street would have more than one. They were the ubiquitous fast food outlet but now it’s mostly fried chicken, burgers, sandwiches, and food from assorted corners of the world.
Fish and chips still taste best on a trip to the seaside though.

meltemian
Reply to  artwest
April 14, 2015 1:53 pm

Particularly with mushy peas.

Annie
Reply to  artwest
April 14, 2015 5:10 pm

There is, or was recently, a very good fish and chip shop in Catterick Village, near Richmond in Yorkshire. They had the best chips, properly cooked in dripping!
The other really good fish and chips we ever had we ate on the sea front at Oban in Scotland.
Down Under, in Melbourne, we’ve had great fish and chips from somewhere in Huntingdale Road. I love ‘Flake’….that’s shark, and delicious, otherwise known as ‘Swimmers’ Revenge’!

Reply to  Joe Chang
April 14, 2015 4:35 pm

Joe- My husband is British, when on trips to the visit the family- theyall think it’s funny I enjoy Fish & Chips- it’s regarded as the “fast” food over there- the “cheaper” food to eat.. So basically you went out for a nice meal, and insisted on ordering the equivalent of a MacDonald’s burger. Probably why everyone laughed! Fish & Chips here is too expensive for fast food 🙂

Alan the Brit
April 14, 2015 8:31 am

We’re British by jingo, & we’re not going to let Global Warming, Global Warmists, nor Johnny Foreigner, take our fish & chips away (still thee number one take away food in the UK btw)!!!! Oh & have you colonial chaps & chappesses set a timetable for when we can have our colonies back? 😉
I wonder how they can seriously justify the squillions of taxpayers’ dosh they get given on a plate, at times?

H.R.
Reply to  Alan the Brit
April 14, 2015 8:50 am

Alan the Brit,
“[…] Oh & have you colonial chaps & chappesses set a timetable for when we can have our colonies back? […]”
With the US being 18+ trillion dollars in debt, are you sure ya’ll really want the colonies back?

Alan Robertson
Reply to  H.R.
April 14, 2015 3:55 pm

Currently $18.187+Trillions. But we an just print more.

ferdberple
Reply to  H.R.
April 15, 2015 6:20 am

we an just print more
==============
sort of. what you print you must first borrow from the Federal Reserve. A privately held bank that most Americans believe (wrongly) is a government institution.

TonyL
Reply to  Alan the Brit
April 14, 2015 8:59 am

Oh & have you colonial chaps & chappesses set a timetable for when we can have our colonies back?
During the war of 1812, you people burnt Washington DC down to the ground. Consider all is forgiven, over a misunderstanding. Would you come over and do it again, please?

D.J. Hawkins
Reply to  TonyL
April 14, 2015 9:49 am

Oh yes, double-plus good!!

Don K
Reply to  TonyL
April 14, 2015 12:57 pm

Actually they just burnt couple of government buildings. And the were responding in kind the the burning a year previous of the parliament buildings in York (Toronto) by American troops. (I know, I know, MY history books in school neglected to mention that minor detail as well).

Jon Lonergan
Reply to  TonyL
April 14, 2015 3:20 pm

Maybe you should wait till Congress is in session in Washington DC and burn it down again.

johnmarshall
Reply to  TonyL
April 15, 2015 3:33 am

We have an SAS team ready and willing.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Alan the Brit
April 14, 2015 9:43 am

“Oh & have you colonial chaps & chappesses set a timetable for when we can have our colonies back? 😉 ”
How about a trade? We will give you New York and New Jersey, we’ll even throw in Detroit, for 4 season tickets to Man U in 2016.
[Heck, the Brit’s already conquered all of those cities. Twice. .mod]

Bubba Cow
Reply to  Tom in Florida
April 14, 2015 10:01 am

add a dozen passes to the Paris festival, please

Non Nomen
Reply to  Alan the Brit
April 14, 2015 11:20 am

If you really want things to stay that way then get out of the so called EU asap. These unelected bureaucrats are excellent in ruining the british fishing industry. Give UKIP a chance.

Reply to  Non Nomen
April 14, 2015 2:20 pm

Hmmm.
CAGW is Political – the watermelons want power and (our) money.
UK = –
Vote UKIP – get Millipede [and his Scottish puppet-mistress].
Vote Tory and, mostly, get folk who are pro-wealth-creation; some may be too in love with complex taxation memes [cf. Brown, Gordon] – and certainly a few (‘Tories’ !!!?) struggle to understand wealth creation . . . .
Vote Labour (& Millipede) – get a massive vendetta on people doing even moderately well; their incomes, pensions, savings, and houses will be taxed to fund – well, a bit unclear, but certainly more bureaucracy.
Vote Green – and stump up – some tax rates up by a third. “We do SO know m u c h better than you how to spend your hard-earned money” . . . .
PS We have an Election coming . . . .
Auto

Janice the Elder
Reply to  Alan the Brit
April 15, 2015 6:20 pm

Alan, perhaps we could interest you in New York, and then throw in California? Moonbeam Brown would fit in with some of your elite politicians.

April 14, 2015 8:32 am

Fish and chips are far more likely to disappear due to the actions of nanny-state food police like Bloomberg who think none of us should be allowed to eat fried foods, than to disappear because of human-caused climate change.

Matt
April 14, 2015 8:42 am

Ah . More girlie science.

Dudley Horscroft
April 14, 2015 8:46 am

Cod is rather rare ouwing to the depletion of the Grand Banks fisheries, and herring have been virtually fished out. The fish they don’t mention is the ‘Shark’ also known s the
•Flake
•Huss
•Dogfish
•Catfish
•Grayfish
•Steakfish
•Whitefish
•Lemon Fish
•Moki
•Cape Steak
•Rock Salmon
•Smoked Rock Salmon
•Smoked Dogfish
•Rigg
•Gummy
•Sea Ham
•Sokomoro
•Tofu Shark
•Ocean Fillet
IIRC Flake and Rock Salmon used to be the preferred alias for shark, and probably 50% of the fish in fish and chips was shark. Not catfish nor dogfish – sounded too much like eating your pets!

george e. smith
Reply to  Dudley Horscroft
April 14, 2015 12:32 pm

Well there are some F&C places around silicon valley that claim to actually have Atlantic cod for their F, and idahopotatoes for their C aka french fries.
But more often than not, we get Alaskan hake in our F&C, and to me that is virtually as good as Atlantic cod.
The Russian fishing boats, in US waters seem to catch a lot of pink hake, that goes by the colloqial names of silver, and chinook salmon in local markets. Hard to tell the difference and often these days, the pink is red dye #2 or some facsimile. Dunno why you would dye perfectly good fish red.
Not a salmon fan but I do like the regular white hake from Alaska, and also the polock.
Fish swim up and down and round and around and they go where the water is where they can find food, that hasn’t been turned into omega 3 oils for yuppies.
So nyet on fish disappearing for a while; they have no idea the oceans are warming, and couldn’t or could care less about it.

Paul Westhaver
April 14, 2015 8:47 am

I don’t accept the assertion that the seas are warming nor do I accept that warming seas would impact cod population. Why? Because of Michael Mann the liar. He lied so by extension these guys are also lying.

Paul Westhaver
Reply to  Anthony Watts
April 14, 2015 9:28 am

I don’t accept the assertion that the seas are warming nor do I accept that warming seas would impact cod population. Why? Because of Michael Mann is stupid. He is stupid so by extension these guys are also stupid. 🙂

Walt D.
Reply to  Anthony Watts
April 14, 2015 9:37 am

Anthony – I think we have gone past the point where simply stupidity is sufficient to explain what is going on. “Follow the money” are “the purpose of power is power” may be closer to the point.

Just an engineer
Reply to  Anthony Watts
April 15, 2015 1:15 pm

Serial Stupidity?

Ben of Houston
April 14, 2015 8:58 am

Well, it might, but not due to global warming. Overfishing is a major environmental issue that has not been reliably addressed. It’s frustrating how many real environmental problems are getting left in the dust in subservience to CO2.

JimS
April 14, 2015 9:00 am

Curry replaced fish & chips as the national dish of the UK a long time ago. How about an climate alarmist article on the demise of curry due to climate change. Those alarmists should keep up with the times, you know.

urederra
Reply to  JimS
April 14, 2015 9:25 am

Curry is a spice (or a blend of spices), not a food. Do you mean chicken curry, rice curry or something like that?

JimS
Reply to  urederra
April 14, 2015 9:39 am

Curried anything is the national dish of the UK. Curry is a powder made from a variety of spices. And my reply was made in pure jest. Why would anyone what to go nit-picky on it?

The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley
Reply to  urederra
April 14, 2015 11:34 am

urederra, you’re evidently not British! ‘Having a curry’ is eating a curried meal: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/curry
If one is to be a grammer nazi, then one should at least get it right.

ralfellis
Reply to  JimS
April 14, 2015 9:40 am

Not any more – have you seen the state of their kitchens and the imported slave-labour workers who sleep in the kitchens? You will not catch me in those places again….

The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley
Reply to  ralfellis
April 14, 2015 11:31 am

You are spot on. In my job, I sometimes have to work in curry house kitchens, and now I would NEVER have a ‘curry’ from a restaurant. Do your own at home!

knr
April 14, 2015 9:00 am

Makes you wonder how these fish managed to evolve at all given there have been much bigger temperature changes in the past , I wonder could it be they ‘SWAM’ to where conditions where better for them ?
Meanwhile model BS all the way through and of course the authors can look forward to further grants having show their ‘faith in the cause’ and never mind reality . CAGW has been a real kick in the groin for the future science and sadly those doing the kicking are often scientists like these authors who do know better but do not given a dam.

April 14, 2015 9:00 am

If a hill warms the wildlife may need to move further up until it reaches it’s optimum climate niche again.
I recognise the theory that hills have tops and so the niche may disappear.
If the sea warms the wildlife may need to move further polewards until it reaches it’s optimum climate niche again.
I do not recognise the theory that the poles will get warmer than the mid-Atlantic is now.
Come on, this is just a bit silly, isn’t it?

April 14, 2015 9:07 am

There are far more curry restaurants now than chippies in the whole of the UK.
If there is a shortage of fish it is almost certainly a result of over fishing, not some silly, nebulous claim of climate change.
I do love a good grease soaked paper full of deep fried cod and some chips sprinkled with malt vinegar, but only once a month or so. The grease is just so over the top, even when the fish is correctly fried in really hot oil.

RCS
April 14, 2015 9:09 am

The decline in British fish stocks is due to the EU “Common Fisheries Policy”, which is widely held to be an ecological and economic disaster.

LarryFine
April 14, 2015 9:13 am

They predicted the end of chocolate and coffee and now fish & chips shops. What’s next? Beer?

Tim
Reply to  LarryFine
April 15, 2015 1:00 am

Next may well be Soylent Green.

Just an engineer
Reply to  Tim
April 15, 2015 1:18 pm

Soylent Greenies? Polar bear treats?

Rick K
April 14, 2015 9:15 am

So… fish, like snow… will be a thing of the past.
Global warming does it all… Embarassingly pathetic.

Charlie
April 14, 2015 9:18 am

I used to fish commercially. It’s amazing what I hear from the know it alls on pelagic fish stocks. Most of these people couldn’t spend more than a few hours out at rough seas without having some sort of emotional break down or puking their brains out. Fish migrations and behavior rely on a few things that nothing to do with this issue even if the oceans warm a micro bit locally. Sun angle for one plays more of a role for some species that the majority of recreational anglers to this day believe move solely on water temps.

Kurt in Switzerland
Reply to  Charlie
April 14, 2015 9:23 am

Wasn’t it a British Columbia fisheries scientist who “discovered” the PDO?

Charlie
Reply to  Charlie
April 14, 2015 9:53 am

I wasn’t referring to the British there. I was referring to the know it all amateur environmentalists. You know, the ones who have a hard time catching fish when they are practically jumping into their Boston whalers

Steve from Rockwood
April 14, 2015 9:29 am

What can you expect from a country that serves its national dish rolled up in a newspaper?

Reply to  Steve from Rockwood
April 14, 2015 9:39 am

But aren’t newspapers disappearing, too?

TomL
Reply to  Steve from Rockwood
April 14, 2015 9:51 am

As a colonist I wish they were still served that way. I had my introduction to real British fish and chips served tike that on the docks in Singapore some mumble mumble years ago and fell in love with them. On a much more recent trip to England I was always told that was now banned by law – no more rolled up newspaper allowed.
Personally I wish we could serve them that way here so the N.Y. Slime wouldn’t be a total waste of trees.

Charlie
Reply to  TomL
April 14, 2015 9:57 am

A Salt and Battery in Brooklyn serves it that way right in the New York Slimes no less. You can ask for the Science section special.

artwest
Reply to  Steve from Rockwood
April 14, 2015 10:35 am

Fish and chips haven’t been routinely served in a rolled up newspaper since about the 1960s.

taxed
Reply to  artwest
April 14, 2015 11:36 am

lt did manage to last a bit longer then that. As a child a remember them still been wrapped up in newspaper into the 70’s. lt seemed to go out of use during the 80’s.

Steve from Rockwood
Reply to  artwest
April 14, 2015 11:44 am

I had some on my first trip to the old country in the late 1980s. In the town of Wigan. Washed it down with some Newcastle Brown. Perfect combo for a cold and wet English winter night. No doubt it’s been replaced by chicken masala and washed down with a warm glass of lassi.

Charlie
Reply to  artwest
April 14, 2015 11:51 am

if anything else this article is making me very hungry

AlexB
Reply to  artwest
April 14, 2015 4:31 pm

Was still happening in the 90s in places.

SandyInLimousin
Reply to  Steve from Rockwood
April 14, 2015 12:03 pm

Now banned due to carcinogenic printers ink.
But typical British adaptive engineering mentality, re-use newspaper for another purpose long before greens thought of re-cycling. In the days of open fires newspapers were used for fire-lighting purposes.
Newspaper and vinegar also used for cleaning windows.
http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/home/a12515/cleaning-windows-with-vinegar/

John MR
Reply to  SandyInLimousin
April 14, 2015 12:41 pm

In the U.S., I’ve been using newspaper and paper grocery bags to drain fried food since the ’70s. They work great for absorbing and holding the oil.
Though with the newspaper, we used to worry about the ink getting on the food. We eventually assumed the beer we drank with our fish would probably hurt us more than the ink, and stopped worrying.

Reply to  Steve from Rockwood
April 15, 2015 2:42 am

Steve, the great Health & Safety movement have banned that pleasure that a few people loved. If I wanted to eat fish & chips from my Daily Telegraph, I would have to eat them off my iPad, which would destroy both my appetite and iPad!

Kurt in Switzerland
April 14, 2015 9:32 am

Maybe with all the Ocean Acidification by then, the pH of the fish will be so high we can all cut back on the malt vinegar with our battered plaice.

Dudley Horscroft
Reply to  Kurt in Switzerland
April 15, 2015 8:54 pm

Kurt, if the pH goes high, you will need MORE vinegar to compensate. Acid is when the pH is below 7.0. If the pH goes higher it gets more and more alkaline, so you need the vinegar.

ralfellis
April 14, 2015 9:36 am

Hmm… Except that the UK Seafish and the Marine Stewardship Council (MSC) has just been announced that cod stocks have bounced back, and we may be able to fish them again.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3031725/Soon-ll-able-eat-guilt-free-cod-North-Sea-stocks-bounce-sustainable-five-years.html
Ah, well, the models always trump real data. I mean, what sort of idiot would trust real people counting real fish, rather than guestimated computer calculations…… /sarc
Ralph

SandyInLimousin
Reply to  ralfellis
April 14, 2015 11:51 am

The models are wrong, at least for the North Sea, are wrong. It is a fact The Guardian says so
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/apr/08/north-sea-cod-stocks-bounce-back-analysis-shows
The fish, once one of the most disastrous examples of overfishing, is now closer to being certified as being sustainable as gurnard, a species which consumers have previously been encouraged to eat instead of cod.

John MR
Reply to  ralfellis
April 14, 2015 12:18 pm

The thing is, we can now grow tilapia by the billions around the subtropical and tropical world if we really need or want to. Easy as pie to grow.
Not my favorite fish, but not bad for fish and chips

george e. smith
Reply to  John MR
April 14, 2015 12:42 pm

Thank you but Tilapia is not a fish; at least it doesn’t taste like a fish, and it certainly doesn’t taste like chicken either so it is generally not considered a food where I live.
Catfish, on the other hand is quite a tasty delicacy, so if you want to farm raise something try catfish.
If they can do it in Texas, they can do it anywhere.

John MR
Reply to  John MR
April 14, 2015 1:04 pm

George, we have and do raise catfish. And I agree on taste.
But I was only speaking relative to growing ease and worldwide protein needs. It’s a ridiculously prolific fish, grows like a weed, and doesn’t need much care, or even quality water.
Very frustrating to me that enviros act as if we’re act peak food capacity. We aren’t even close to it especially considering all the new tech being developed.

Hot under the collar
April 14, 2015 9:41 am

Instead of ‘Friday Funny’ I think this story should be categorised ‘Tuesday Fishy’.
I hope the researchers have declared their ‘Big Cod’ funding?
Global warming is one thing but you Yanks have gone too far now with your ‘Fish n Chip’ Denial. : (

April 14, 2015 9:41 am

From the BBC report on it:
“The flat fish are really in trouble,” Dr Simpson, a researcher on the study, told BBC News.
“Unless they can change their habitat and diet in the next 20 or 30 years, or adapt to 2 degrees more warming – which is a big ask – then they will decline.”
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-32286800

mikewaite
Reply to  philincalifornia
April 14, 2015 11:41 am

Where does the 2C in 20 or 30 years come from? Is this the latest model from IPCC ?
WUWT, my source on all things climatic, has not prepared me for the possibility of 6-10C per century.
I cannot find it in the textbooks.

Reply to  mikewaite
April 15, 2015 9:36 pm

… and that’s the sea, not the atmosphere over it.
It’s according to an unpublished model provided by J Tinker. There are too many potential puns in there for me to handle, although it is peer-reviewed, so it must be true.

Gary
April 14, 2015 9:50 am

What about bangers and mash, bubble and squeak, and toad-in-the-hole? Will Climate Change eliminate them too?

Reply to  Gary
April 15, 2015 9:40 pm

Climate Change regulations surely will – way too much methane generation, particularly with bubble and squeak, and you’ll probably get jail time for mushy peas in the future.

urederra
April 14, 2015 9:55 am

There was an old castillian (inland Spain) saying that used to say that “Shrimps do not grow among the stubble” a common landscape in the spanish mesa. It was used to explain the high prices that kind of food used to have in the old days. It turns out that now they do. A branch of a U.S. company called Natural Shrimp opened a little fish farm in the middle of the castillian mesa where they produce 50 tons of shrimps per year.
The headquarters are in San Antonio, inland Texas, where they also produce fish farm grown shrimps, something that the members of the Club of Rome had never expected.
http://naturalshrimp.com/our-story/

DirkH
Reply to  urederra
April 14, 2015 11:15 am

Club Of ROme knew very well that their Limits To Growth model was nothing but agitprop. It was a means to an end, as declaring humanity itself as the enemy and creating the enviro movement was the basis for the new strategy of the UN to become a world power by global regulation.
The previous strategy, amassing all nuclear arsenals in the hands of the UN, perished when the UN killed 100,000 people in Katanga in 1961, and the appalled European nations withdrew their support. JFK was still advertising that strategy in a speech ca. 1961.

Bubba Cow
April 14, 2015 9:56 am

don’t read this unless you need a headache (or then the cure) –
from the fine print just above Anthony’s yellow highlight

Capacity to tolerate warming will thus depend on scope for thermal acclimation and adaptation with the degree of connectivity between thermally adapted sub-populations across the geographic range of species influencing the rate of adaptation to future warming.

tortured AI English – I’ve had similar computer generated suspicions for other ramblings – have to do something with the supercomputer modeling downtime so why couldn’t it plug itself?

DirkH
Reply to  Bubba Cow
April 14, 2015 11:18 am

Might be an over-reviewed and over-edited sentence, after each reviewer said, THIS is still missing. I produce similar drivel when reviewers go on my nerves. It’s fun.

Reply to  Bubba Cow
April 14, 2015 11:23 am

I wonder if the peer reviewers could explain what that single sentence means?

Annie
Reply to  Bubba Cow
April 14, 2015 5:36 pm

I assumed it was the sort of gobbledygook you get from poorly educated people trying to sound clever.

Resourceguy
April 14, 2015 10:31 am

Take Charles and keep the fish.

April 14, 2015 10:37 am

Forget about your fish & chips, get out your solar eclipse glasses. There are some large sunspots that will be visible by using protective glasses with ‘naked’ eye during next few days.
DO NOT LOOK DIRECTLY!! Not even with the darkest of sunglasses!!
http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/latest/latest_1024_HMIIC.jpg

DirkH
Reply to  vukcevic
April 14, 2015 11:19 am

I looked at it and it’s a normal yellowish JPG. What’s the problem?

Reply to  DirkH
April 14, 2015 11:51 am

Not sure if that is a joke, I am talking about real sun, not JPG images. If sun indeed turns down its activity as predicted by most of the solar professionals, next week or so may be one of the rare occasions in the next 15 or more years, to see sunspots by naked eye.

DirkH
Reply to  DirkH
April 14, 2015 1:48 pm

Just kidding, vuk.

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