@Twitter @Support is not playing by their own rules in the unfair suspension of climate skeptic Tom Nelson

UPDATE: 4/3/15 1PM PST WUWT gets results, Tom is out of “twitmo”

I don’t regularly take up causes on WUWT, but this one sticks in my craw for the sheer pointlessness of it all. To borrow an overused phrase from the warmist movement, this is a “canary in the coal mine for free speech and climate skepticism”. Yesterday, I posted Abusive censorship on Twitter – same word used by Gavin Schmidt gets commenter banned.

In that post, you can see the exchange and what appears to be the reason, simply using the word “crap” to describe a graph. Nelson compared his use of the word to how Gavin Schmidt has used the word on Twitter in the past. In keeping with Team ‘no culpability” policy, Gavin complains there’s no comparison, and wants to be left out of the issue. Of course he does.

gavin-suspendOf course, Gavin doesn’t seem to mind abusing Tom:

Gavin-ugly

The story got picked up yesterday by Mark Steyn and then Twitchy, along with some other outlets, and I surmised that by this morning, Nelson’s account would be restored; I was wrong and sent this out.

Followed by some support:

And this one, that I wholeheartedly agree with.

I’ve been following Tom for years, he’s never abusive, always courteous, but he does ask some questions that make some in the climate establishment very uncomfortable.

Here are the rules that Twitter has in place, I can’t see where Tom Nelson went afoul of it.


The Twitter Rules

Our goal is to provide a service that allows you to discover and receive content from sources that interest you as well as to share your content with others. We respect the ownership of the content that users share and each user is responsible for the content he or she provides. Because of these principles, we do not actively monitor and will not censor user content, except in limited circumstances described below.

Content Boundaries and Use of Twitter

In order to provide the Twitter service and the ability to communicate and stay connected with others, there are some limitations on the type of content that can be published with Twitter. These limitations comply with legal requirements and make Twitter a better experience for all. We may need to change these rules from time to time and reserve the right to do so. Please check back here to see the latest.

  • Impersonation: You may not impersonate others through the Twitter service in a manner that does or is intended to mislead, confuse, or deceive others.
  • Trademark: We reserve the right to reclaim usernames on behalf of businesses or individuals that hold legal claim or trademark on those usernames. Accounts using business names and/or logos to mislead others may be permanently suspended.
  • Private information: You may not publish or post other people’s private and confidential information, such as credit card numbers, street address or Social Security/National Identity numbers, without their express authorization and permission. You may not post intimate photos or videos that were taken or distributed without the subject’s consent.
  • Violence and Threats: You may not publish or post direct, specific threats of violence against others.
  • Copyright: We will respond to clear and complete notices of alleged copyright infringement. Our copyright procedures are set forth in the Terms of Service.
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  • Misuse of Twitter Badges: You may not use badges, such as but not limited to the Promoted or Verified Twitter badge, unless provided by Twitter. Accounts using these badges as part of profile photos, header photos, background images, or in a way that falsely implies affiliation with Twitter may be suspended.

Abuse and Spam

Twitter strives to protect its users from abuse and spam. User abuse and technical abuse are not tolerated on Twitter.com, and may result in permanent suspension. Any accounts engaging in the activities specified below may be subject to permanent suspension.

  • Serial Accounts: You may not create multiple accounts for disruptive or abusive purposes, or with overlapping use cases. Mass account creation may result in suspension of all related accounts. Please note that any violation of the Twitter Rules is cause for permanent suspension of all accounts.
  • Targeted Abuse: You may not engage in targeted abuse or harassment. Some of the factors that we take into account when determining what conduct is considered to be targeted abuse or harassment are:
    • if you are sending messages to a user from multiple accounts;
    • if the sole purpose of your account is to send abusive messages to others;
    • if the reported behavior is one-sided or includes threats
  • Username Squatting: You may not engage in username squatting. Accounts that are inactive for more than six months may also be removed without further notice. Some of the factors that we take into account when determining what conduct is considered to be username squatting are:
    • the number of accounts created
    • creating accounts for the purpose of preventing others from using those account names
    • creating accounts for the purpose of selling those accounts
    • using feeds of third-party content to update and maintain accounts under the names of those third parties
  • Invitation spam: You may not use Twitter.com’s address book contact import to send repeat, mass invitations.
  • Selling usernames: You may not buy or sell Twitter usernames.
  • Malware/Phishing: You may not publish or link to malicious content intended to damage or disrupt another user’s browser or computer or to compromise a user’s privacy.
  • Spam: You may not use the Twitter service for the purpose of spamming anyone. What constitutes “spamming” will evolve as we respond to new tricks and tactics by spammers. Some of the factors that we take into account when determining what conduct is considered to be spamming are:
    • If you have followed and/or unfollowed large amounts of users in a short time period, particularly by automated means (aggressive following or follower churn);
    • If you repeatedly follow and unfollow people, whether to build followers or to garner more attention for your profile;
    • If your updates consist mainly of links, and not personal updates;
    • If a large number of people are blocking you;
    • If a large number of spam complaints have been filed against you;
    • If you post duplicate content over multiple accounts or multiple duplicate updates on one account;
    • If you post multiple unrelated updates to a topic using #, trending or popular topic, or promoted trend;
    • If you send large numbers of duplicate @replies or mentions;
    • If you send large numbers of unsolicited @replies or mentions;
    • If you add a large number of unrelated users to lists;
    • If you repeatedly create false or misleading content;
    • Randomly or aggressively following, favoriting or Retweeting Tweets;
    • If you repeatedly post other users’ account information as your own (bio, Tweets, url, etc.);
    • If you post misleading links (e.g. affiliate links, links to malware/click jacking pages, etc.);
    • Creating misleading accounts or account interactions;
    • Selling or purchasing account interactions (such as selling or purchasing followers, Retweets, favorites, etc.);
    • Using or promoting third-party services or apps that claim to get you more followers (such as follower trains, sites promising “more followers fast” or any other site that offers to automatically add followers to your account);
  • Graphic Content: You may not use pornographic or excessively violent media in your profile image, header image, or background image.

Your account may be suspended for Terms of Service violations if any of the above is true. Please see our help pages on Following rules and best practices and Automation rules and best practices for a more detailed discussion of how the Rules apply to those particular account behaviors. Accounts created to replace suspended accounts will be permanently suspended.

Accounts engaging in any of these behaviors may be investigated for abuse. Accounts under investigation may be removed from Search for quality. Twitter reserves the right to immediately terminate your account without further notice in the event that, in its judgment, you violate these Rules or the Terms of Service.

We may revise these Rules from time to time; the most current version will always be at twitter.com/rules.


So, for those of you that think this suspension is unfair, help out by tweeting a message to @Twitter and @Support asking for @tan123 to be reinstated. if you want to show the double standard in action, you can reference today’s blog post with a short URL:

http://wp.me/p7y4l-w9w

or yesterday’s:

Be courteous. Thanks for your consideration. – Anthony

UPDATE: Gavin, in his full glory.

Gavin-muteAnd his decision, after I replied “that’s not helpful, and reflects badly on you sir”

Gavin-blocked

 

 

 

 

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ROM
April 2, 2015 7:29 pm

Quoted from RoHa’s post # 23 at JoNova’s
The all time classic description of “Twitter”
“Never before, in the field of communication, have so many people of so little importance been able to demonstrate their total idiocy to so many”.

Reply to  ROM
April 2, 2015 7:32 pm

Wow!
Add to that “…so quickly.”

ROM
Reply to  JohnWho
April 2, 2015 7:40 pm

Add to that “…so quickly.”
For the completeness of the quote I would agree !

Attention all Silent Readers
April 2, 2015 7:48 pm

Article
TEMPERATURE GRADIENT CAUSED BY GRAVITATION
Chuanpingliao
International Journal of Modern Physics B (Impact Factor: 0.46). 01/2012; 23(22). DOI: 10.1142/S0217979209052893
ABSTRACT Thermodynamic deduction and experimental results both demonstrate that gravitation causes temperature gradient in an adiabatic system, i.e., gravithermal effect: The higher altitude the lower temperature.
Source: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/263879139_TEMPERATURE_GRADIENT_CAUSED_BY_GRAVITATION
The implications for climate science are that it is not radiation from CO2 and water vapor that is raising the surface temperature, but gravity. The AGW fraud is debunked.

Reply to  Attention all Silent Readers
April 2, 2015 8:16 pm

gravity causes the adiabatic lapse rate… except when it doesn’t. it only take one repeatable, valid counter obs to destroy a hypothesis.

tty
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
April 3, 2015 12:43 pm

I think you will have a hard time finding anybody (except possibly yourself) who actually doubts that the lapse rate is due to gravity.

Reply to  Attention all Silent Readers
April 3, 2015 11:18 am

I’m signing up for an account to read the article . Gravity definitely enters the energy balance of particles at different depths in a gravitational “well” . But for the nonce , I will continue to assume that the difference even a 100km variation around a 6,400km ball makes is small . I don’t think it should be too hard to calculate , but I’ve got other priorities .
Your last paragraph I don’t understand at all . Surely the Earth’s surface gravity has not changed 0.3% over the last couple of centuries .

old44
April 2, 2015 8:22 pm

When they have to ban your opinion you know you are winning.

MIkeN
April 2, 2015 8:24 pm

It’s pretty clear Tom Nelson violated their policies. Revealing that their work is crap is information they wish be left private.

masInt branch 4 C3I in is
April 2, 2015 9:08 pm

I for one do not trust the Nazi Youth of Tweeter nor the existence of the Gavin Schmidt.
Schmidt’y old boy, you just do not even rank with Schrõdinger’s Cat. And Schrõdinger’s Cat was a Joke, i.e. it never existed in the first place!
Ha ha on you Schmidt’y.

April 2, 2015 9:29 pm

April 2, 2015 9:31 pm

I’m not sure it’s a bad idea if Twitter degenerates into an activist ghetto and echo chamber. If it isn’t that already. I always thought Twitter was a pretty dumb idea to begin with. Not sure why so many people waste their time with it. Intellectual discussion reduced to sound bites perfectly exemplifies everything that is wrong with modern intellectual discourse.

Andrew Richards
Reply to  Will Nitschke
April 2, 2015 10:30 pm

Yes, imagine what an ET would deduce to be the average state of human intelligence and emotional sophistication if he/she/it first learned of our planet’s existence through exposure to Gavin Schmidt’s twittering…

BFL
Reply to  Andrew Richards
April 2, 2015 10:38 pm

I think that we have already been contacted and told to stay put/not allowed out there where we might cause a whole heap of trouble.

Andrew Richards
Reply to  Andrew Richards
April 2, 2015 10:41 pm

On further reflection perhaps Gavin is an ET – judging by his unusually pointy-shaped head as featured on his Twatter photograph.

Rob
April 2, 2015 9:32 pm

Beans

Reply to  Rob
April 2, 2015 9:41 pm

That the perfect indicative of ‘to be’, right?

BFL
April 2, 2015 10:36 pm

Dang, this is getting more kick back than Indiana Bill 568.

Tim
April 2, 2015 10:44 pm

IMO no serious scientist would attempt to use a 140 character message to get important information across, unless to broadcast propaganda to the unwashed headline-grabbers.
Don’t follow them down into this simpleton’s maze. They’re protected from any serious debate.

Berényi Péter
April 2, 2015 11:46 pm

Twitter is a corporate entity, First Amendment rights do not apply. If they fail to act as a neutral medium, the only remedy available is to drive them out of business fast.
As an analogy, consider this statement:

The Government reserves the right to immediately suspend your freedoms without further notice in the event that, in its judgment, you violate these Rules

No matter what those Rules are supposed to be, the lack of Due Process is enough in itself to constitute Tyranny.
It ‘s abusive to the extent it would not go unnoticed even in the UK, a country with no written Constitution whatsoever.
In cases like this citizens have a grave obligation to revolt.
On the marketplace, the splendid playing ground of Twitter, it means to drive them out of business with all conceivable devices at our command.

William Astley
April 3, 2015 12:41 am

Our time in history is surreal. The planet is about to abruptly cool and we have a bunch of idiots that are still pushing CAGW on every media outlet that they can manipulate. At what point in time will observations cause the general public, the media, and some of the cult scientists to have their eureka moment and change ‘sides’. A cult scientist continues to believe in a incorrect theory for whatever reason(s) when observations have disproved the theory in question.
Men and women go mad in groups, turn off their minds from considering observations and logic that disproves their paradigm. They normally return to sanity over a long period of time one by one however in your face global cooling should hurry the process on.

Cold snaps (William: What we are observing is different than a cold ‘snap’. Record cold monthly temperatures, record snowfall amounts, the start of significant, disruptive ocean effect snow on the US and Canadian east coast) like the ones that hit the eastern United States in the past winters are not a consequence of climate change. Scientists at ETH Zurich and the California Institute of Technology have shown that global warming actually tends to reduce temperature variability.

Duh how is it possible for the planet to cool if CO2 is currently ‘warming’ the planet? It is possible for the planet to cool, as there are multiple fundamental errors/misunderstandings in the CO2 modeling/theory.
Schmidt spends his time looking at his team’s incorrect theoretical models and pushing CAWG which explains why he and the cult of CAGW can completely ignore the logical implications of a step change in sea ice in the Antarctic starting in 2012 for all months of the year and the sudden cooling and increase in snowfall on the Greenland Ice sheet starting in 2013. (P.S. The sudden onset of Arctic cooling is not due to a reduction in the North Atlantic drift current. The North Atlantic drift current has increased due to the increase in wind speed in the Atlantic. Non stop flights must now stop for fuel when flying east to west due to the higher west to east wind speed.) I would assume the CAWG/lukewarm warmists assume the observed planetary cooling and sudden increase in the jet stream velocity is just weather and assume it is not a trend. Odd that they do not look at the paleo record.
The sun has abruptly ‘slowed down’ (actually changed to a new once in 8000 to 10,000 year state), the planet has started a Dansgaard-Oeschger cooling cyclic (also called a D-O cycle in the paleo climate literature). There is a mechanism that is temporarily slowing down wind speed in the Southern Pacific Ocean. That mechanism is starting to abate which explains the slowly increasing blue regions in this diagram.
http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2015/anomnight.4.2.2015.gif
Unusual activity of the Sun during recent decades compared to the previous 11,000 years by Solank et al.
http://cc.oulu.fi/~usoskin/personal/nature02995.pdf
Greenland ice temperature, last 11,000 years determined from ice core analysis, Richard Alley’s paper.
http://www.climate4you.com/images/GISP2%20TemperatureSince10700%20BP%20with%20CO2%20from%20EPICA%20DomeC.gif
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-13/surging-jet-stream-winds-hinder-u-s-bound-flights-from-europe

Surging Jet-Stream Winds Hinder U.S.-Bound Flights From Europe
Stronger westerly headwinds for U.S.-bound flights are stretching out travel times, forcing some planes to stop for refueling. Trips such as London to New York, a busy business route, are running almost eight hours — 45 minutes longer than voyages in September.
Two Philadelphia-bound American Airlines flights, one from Brussels and the other from Amsterdam, had to touch down on Jan. 11 to refuel in Bangor, Maine, said Scott Ramsay, the carrier’s managing director of its integrated operations center. The journey from Brussels took 9 hours and 16 minutes, about an hour more than three months earlier, according to industry data tracker FlightAware.
Higher Costs
Flights across the Atlantic to eastern U.S. cities in December 2013 averaged 19 minutes later than a year earlier, according to industry data tracker MasFlight.com. Travel times in December 2014 were similar to those in 2013, MasFlight’s data from more than 1,300 flights a year showed.
With the threat of increasingly strong headwinds every winter, airlines face higher costs on those westbound flights with the use of extra fuel and the crew’s time. “When you were planning to fly non-stop, stopping for fuel costs money,” said George Hamlin, president of Hamlin Transportation Consulting, who has more than 40 years of experience in commercial aviation and aerospace.

mikewaite
Reply to  William Astley
April 3, 2015 4:17 am

Would stronger westerly winds in the N Atlantic increase the strength of the North Atlantic Drift , bringing milder winters, which some claim to be the case, to the British Isles?
However any change in the strength of the windspeed will be attributed by the pro-AGW community as an example, indeed, proof, of “climate change” and , by definition , of global warming.

William Astley
Reply to  mikewaite
April 3, 2015 8:46 am

No. An increased in wind speed in general cools the planet.
Increased wind speed over the ocean results in increased evaporation which results in cooling as more latent heat is transported higher in the atmosphere where there are less greenhouse molecules per unit volume. The greenhouse effect is directly dependent on the number of molecules of each type per unit volume. The number of molecules per unit volume of course is directly related to atmospheric pressure and hence reduces exponentially with altitude.
Global warming is not the explanation for the sudden increase in wind speeds as planetary temperature has not as of yet changed significantly. A change/new forcing agent is required to explain the sudden increase in wind speed. The change/force agent is the sun. Support for that assertion is the fact that there has been a sudden and significant ‘slowdown’ of the sun and the fact that evidence of the increased wind speed and cooling in the paleo record when there is a slowdown of the sun.
There is a hundred fold dust deposited on the Greenland ice sheet during the coldest abrupt climate events, the Heinrich events. The Dansgaard-Oeschger (D-O) cooling events are less severe than a Heinrich event, there is roughly a 10 times increase in dust deposited on the Greenland ice sheet during the D-O cooling event. The dust comes from Mongolia. The increase in dust deposited on the Greenland ice sheet is due to an increase in wind speed. What we are currently observing happened before. We know the past increases in wind speed were not due to CO2. We also know the past cooling events in the paleo record were all followed by warming events which were not due to CO2.
There is no evidence that increased CO2 causes an increase in wind speed. In fact the theoretical IPCC models predict a reduction in wind speed when the planet warms which if it did occur would amplify the CO2 forcing due to less ocean evaporation. The IPCC models used every thing theoretically possible to increase warming in the model.
The planet will also cool as the current solar change that is causing an increase in wind speed is also causing an increase in low level cloud cover, a reduction in cirrus clouds (The high altitude wispy cirrus clouds warm due to the greenhouse affect particularly at night and in high latitude regions. The reduction in cirrus clouds is the reason for record cold temperatures in high latitude regions. The cirrus effect is greater in the Arctic as there is more water vapor at high altitudes. Over the Antarctic the air is so cold there is very little water vapor so the there is almost no cirrus cloud affect.

April 3, 2015 1:27 am

“… It is possible for the planet to cool, as there are multiple fundamental errors/misunderstandings in the CO2 modeling/theory.”
I agree with that 110 percent as the football coaches love to say. To use the word of the day, the “CO2 warms the planet 32 degrees” meme is a load of crap.

gazzatrone
April 3, 2015 2:25 am

As someone once described to me… “Twitter is the new hang out for the village idiot”

Reply to  gazzatrone
April 3, 2015 9:51 am

Before social media, the village idiot’s reach was confined mostly to his or her village.
Now the village idiots have a network with a global reach enabling them to reinforce and collectively resonate in their inanities.

cedarhill
April 3, 2015 3:49 am

Twitter may have been the last coal mine but the entire flock of canaries is stacked up in front of the hate crime, hate speech, offensive speech, discriminatory speech, et al, up to and including the latest round of kill the pizza folks for merely “thinking” about not catering a wedding.
Curtailing free speech is like opening Hesoid’s Pandora’s Box. Once it’s opened (curtailing speech then curtailing thought) you’re not going to get freedom back (those pesky Amendments).
I believe each letter of the alphabet has been converted to “the word”. The only canary associated with this episode is that we obviously need some rules regarding how the banned “C-word”s (as in plural) are distinguished. Is a small “c” the one that refers to a body part? Does a capital “C” refer to skin tone? Does an italic “c” refer to a middle aged woman?
When you finish the C’s, move on to the rest of the letters. Some advice, I would pretend letter “N” doesn’t exist.
Oh, and stack the “C” canary out with the others. You may need to take along a ladder.

Jaime Jessop
April 3, 2015 3:56 am

It seems to me that somebody took ‘offense’ at Tom’s tweet and reported it. Twitter then demanded that the ‘offending’ tweet be removed, which Tom did, but then posted a screenshot of the ‘delete tweet’ message from Twitter, so then Twitter took offense at Tom defying their unfair and unreasonable diktat, so suspended him in revenge!
I’ve also posted a screenshot of the ‘delete tweet’ in questioning Twitter Support why they’ve suspended Tom, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Twitter suspend my account too.

ozspeaksup
April 3, 2015 4:35 am

what I noted was the complete avoidance of reply to
did you report or someone you know?
and then the threat of dissing by mute or blocking
a-n-thony asked a Q too close to home I guess?
dont see why any one twits of fakebooks really
mass mediated sheeple following thing
privacy invasion as freebie – gross.

April 3, 2015 5:40 am

Nelson typically devastates the climate scientists and leftist global warming believers on twitter. I’m not surprised that he’s been suspended.
Ya’d think with billions and billions of dollars spent on government climate science (for promoting left-wing polices), that anybody with access to a newspaper or goggle and in particular, the scientists themselves, could easily demolish Nelson’s points and great questions. Instead, they do what Gavin Schmidt did on Fox news with Roy Spencer: they run away like cowards. Except on twitter, they block and/or report.

April 3, 2015 6:00 am

The climate debate really can get a bit overheated at times and having a ‘report abuse’ button on twitter that is open to abuse itself has been an issue for twitter for along time, I don’t buy into the idea that twitter is censoring any of it’s users, it’s simply a case of AGW activists abusing this feature, and I wouldn’t think Gavin would have reported Tom for abuse, as I see both of them exchange thoughts all the time. AGW activists are more inclined to organise a mini ‘report abuse’ campaign against AGW skeptics than skeptics are, for the simple reason that they are activists!

April 3, 2015 10:37 am

the account is back. He has 3 followers, which is odd, because we have 16 followers in common. No posts since April 1st.

Anything is possible
Reply to  A Guy Named Jack (@JackHBarnes)
April 3, 2015 11:26 am

Fully restored now.
https://twitter.com/tan123

April 3, 2015 11:04 am

Has anybody else noticed that over the last couple of days the climate reporting on Yahoo seems to now be funneled through “Progressive Climate” so that ‘comments’ instead of being part of Yahoo News are required to be registered over at “progressive”. I find it interesting since the comments on Yahoo climate news items in the past generally been a great location to see that skeptics generally outnumber alarmists and generally state their case with greater civility as compared to alarmists. Professional Alarmist trolls are easily identified by clicking on their address and seeing the thousands of messages they have posted. The new set up looks to me like its designed to filter the discussion through the “progressive site” and not show all that healthy and surprisingly competent skepticism in public.

PatrickB
April 3, 2015 12:32 pm

so dr schmidt wasn’t involved at all.
those who unfairly maligned him owe him an apology.

April 3, 2015 3:01 pm

dbstealey
April 3, 2015 at 3:29 am
joelobryan,
“Unfortunately, the left has made serious inroads. I firmly believe it is part of an organized, long term plan put into effect by the old Soviets. After the Wall came down, they saw that they could not defeat the US militarily, so they ramped up their attacks on the US media complex and other ‘organs’ of the state. There was plenty of solid evidence showing their plans, which came to light in the Venona papers and other documents that were circulated following the fall of the Berlin Wall. None of this is any secret.”
I’ve remarked on the bad part of the Iron Curtain falling down before with no interest from readers in that view. Universities, scientific societies, education bureaucracies, the UN bureaucracies and leaderships, NGOs, etc. were infiltrated by ideologues who saw the existence of ready made effective structures from which they could work their magic from within. In comments a few years ago on a thread about unveiled threats from Greenpeace- We be many, you be few we know where you work, we know where you live. And don’t doubt for a minute that a list is being put together. At the time, one commenter said that one of the directors or board members of GPeace was a former Stasi officer!!! I never got a link or heard it again but it sent some goose bumps up my back. Don’t forget that there were a large number of those in academia, the bureaucracy, etc. whose skills and training didn’t suit for a job in an open society. Where does a Marxist economics professor get a job? KGB, Stasi officers, etc. etc. The brightest of the lot found places in the West rather easily, especially in Europe where there is a soft landing for them. Hey, Cambridge University was essentially a Soviet spy training institution.
Regarding a way to come back? Yeah, it won’t be easy. There has to be a major failure of governments and economies to get a tide going the other way. On an individual basis, parents have to take more control of their children’s education to resist the entrenched Marxism in the schools. When one says they have drunk the Kool Aid, this is what it means to me. A vast majority of people that don’t know they’ve got it wrong.

Aicha Wallaby
Reply to  Gary Pearse
April 4, 2015 9:00 pm

I agree with what you and dbstealey are saying. I differ in believing that it goes back before when the Iron Curtain fell. Check out Antonio Gramsci, Georg Lukacs, Herbert Marcuse, the Frankfurt School, Cultural Marxism. I think they’ve been at it for a long time and their “underground” strategy is paying off.