No wonder they call him 'moonbeam' – California Governor Jerry Brown claims Global Warming causes extreme cold

Remember this eye roller from Brown where he claimed LAX was at risk from sea level rise, only to have to walkback the claim the next day after it was pointed out on WUWT that LAX is well above sea level?

Brown_LAX_SLR He’s at it again. Eric Worrall writes:

California Governor Jerry Brown has declared senator Ted Cruz is “unfit for office”, because Cruz doesn’t believe that global warming is the cause of the extreme cold in America’s North East.

According to CNN;

“What he said is absolutely false,” Brown said. “Over 90% of the scientists who deal with climate are absolutely convinced that the humans’ activity, industrial activity … are building up in the atmosphere, they’re heat trapping, and they’re causing not just one drought in California but severe storms and cold on the East Coast.”

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/22/politics/ted-cruz-2016-election-global-warming-jerry-brown/

What can I say – without experts like Jerry to explain the science to us, some of us might have wondered whether extreme cold in the North East, even after 30 years of “dangerous” global warming, and 18 years of no rise in global temperature, and record busting growth of Antarctic sea ice, might mean that someone made a mistake.

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jimothylite
March 23, 2015 8:52 am

Brown’s right, ya know. Global warming is freezing.

March 23, 2015 8:54 am

Moonbeam is both the oldest and the youngest California governor ever. Brown has never done anything in the private sector, or held a real job outside of being a politician. Needless to say, he’s been a disaster for California taxpayers, who have have one of the very highest sales taxes anywhere; almost 10%. And for what?
Now Brown is diddling around with his pet “legacy” project: a ‘bullet’ train that is unnecessary, unwanted except by public ‘worker’ unions, unneeded, and a monumental waste of money. Best cost estimates are hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars — much of that loot will be confiscated from taxpayers in the other 49 states.
The infrastructure is already in place to travel very efficiently from one end of the state to the other: today you can fly from San Francisco to L.A. in one hour, for about a hundred bucks. But Brown’s ‘bullet’ train will take 3 – 4 hours optimistically, a ticket will cost more, and eternal subsidies will be required to keep that 19th-Century travel ‘solution’ going. The thousands of acres of formerly tax-paying land taken from the public will never pay a penny in future property taxes.
It’s hard to conceive of a more stupid waste of money. We would be as well off if the state hired its millions of illegal aliens to dig 10’X10’X10′ holes in public parks, then move them every six months. They could call it ‘art’. And at least it wouldn’t require never-ending taxpayer subsidies.

Reply to  dbstealey
March 23, 2015 9:44 am

Rosa Koire, author of “Behind the Green Mask,” talks about how projects such as the California bullet train are design to destroy the economy, establish a precedent for end-running elective government via ‘regionalism,’ obliterate property rights, and so forth.
In other words, absurd projects like the bullet train are designed to pulverize society to lay the track for Agenda 21. Climate change is the locomotive.
That is why WUWT is so important. It strikes at the root of the problem.

BFL
Reply to  dbstealey
March 23, 2015 10:27 am

You mean like THIS debacle:
“Since 1972 Amtrak has received more than $13 billion of federal subsidies. Twenty-five years later, Amtrak appears no closer to financial independence than the day taxpayer assistance began. Worse, Amtrak has no apparent plan to become self-sufficient. In fact, it is now pressing for a half-cent of the federal gasoline tax in order to have a permanent umbilical cord to the federal treasury. That hardly seems fair, since people who pay the gasoline tax — that is, people who drive their cars — aren’t using Amtrak.”
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/amtrak-subsidies-is-no-way-run-railroad

emsnews
Reply to  BFL
March 23, 2015 12:33 pm

I love trains. A lot. Have ridden trains all over the world.
AMTRAK is the worst, by far. Never on time, left to sit on the rails while cargo trains roar past. Bad tracks, rickety bridges, parked in cattle yards out west waiting for freight trains to roar past, dirty, dingy, poor food…I rode the best trains in Europe in the past!
Very pathetic service. Useless for comfortable travel and I hate planes and avoid them as much as possible.

asybot
Reply to  BFL
March 23, 2015 9:28 pm

emsnews One time I rode a train ( since leaving the EU) was a trip I took from Montreal to the West coast in 1971 it was terrific 3-4 days, diner/breakfast cars, view cars, bar cars, sleepers etc etc. I took another one a decade later it was a disaster just as you described Amtrac.

Duster
Reply to  dbstealey
March 23, 2015 10:48 am

“… who have have one of the very highest sales taxes anywhere;almost 10%. And for what?”
It certainly has not improved roads or education.

Reply to  dbstealey
March 23, 2015 1:00 pm

dbstealey, here is a harbinger of the catastrophe that is certain to follow in the wake of the CA bullet train project.
Anyone who lived in the San Francisco Bay Area during the ‘retrofitting’ of the east portion of the Bay Bridge owes it to him- or herself to watch this hilarious (and fascinating) documentary:
The Bridge So Far – A Suspense Story

“The Bridge So Far — A Suspense Story” is an entertaining one-hour documentary on the often outrageous and always controversial history and status of the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge. Tragic, frustrating, comical, and historic, this entertaining documentary/news special follows the Bridge from its original construction through the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake up to the present day. It recounts the progress, delays, setbacks, and politics during the design and construction of a new, safe bridge to re-complete the connection across the Bay between San Francisco and Oakland.
This was much more than a huge design and construction project. It was local, regional, state, and even federal politics; dollars and delays; finances and finger pointing; the U.S. Navy vs. Caltrans; northern vs. southern alignments; skyway vs. suspension bridge, with a bikeway; conceptual changes during construction; and monumental cost increases caused by such far-flung factors as the upcoming Olympics in China.

Reply to  Max Photon
March 23, 2015 1:13 pm

At 39:28 we see my undergraduate advisor (in geophysics), the late Dr. Bruce A. Bolt. He was quite a character. I have very fond memories of his classes in mathematical methods in geophysics. He always wore a white coat for class, and would invariably wipe his nose with his chalk-covered hand, making it look like he just snorted two gigantic lines of cocaine. He loved mathematics and did a fine job propagating that love. Way to go BABs!

David A
Reply to  dbstealey
March 23, 2015 9:48 pm

“It’s hard to conceive of a more stupid waste of money”
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Especially since a fraction of that cost could provide adequate water for all of California.

Patrick
Reply to  dbstealey
March 23, 2015 11:58 pm

The Australian “carbon” tax was also supposed to be used for a similar project, high speed trains between Sydney, Canberra and Melbourne (About 1200kms in distance one-way). To do that, properly, like SNCF high speed trains in France that run at 400kph or more, will require massive infrastructure to support. Power lines (I am assuming overhead power at ~25kv which would be coal derived – Using diesel powered locomotives would be defeating the object of the boondoggle project), rails, concrete sleepers, cuttings, embankments, bridges, tunnels etc to make the line as straight as possible like in France and Japan.
In Aus we already have the most efficient method of travelling between the three cities mentioned. It’s called an airplane! Infrastructure is already there, 1km concrete runway in Sydney, Canberra and Melbourne…and plenty of air in between. Jet/turbo fan engines are EXTREMELY efficient at extracting maximum thrust using minimal fuel.

March 23, 2015 9:06 am

…humans’ activity, industrial activity … are building up in the atmosphere …

Ignoring his Jerry-rigged grammar, I think he is trying to warn us of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Karma Change.comment image

dp
March 23, 2015 9:14 am

Weather of every kind is caused by global warming. If the earth were a frozen ball none of this would be happening. Jerry Brown, seminerian drop-out, famous Lord of the (Med)flies, is also the prince of Reductio ad absurdum, a land of make believe far to the west and which borders a vast boiling sea.

olsthro
March 23, 2015 9:48 am

Dear Jerry,
If we reduce human activity, industrial activity … and reduce CO2 building up in the atmosphere, and its related heat trapping capability, will it get warmer on the East Coast?

Mick
Reply to  olsthro
March 23, 2015 10:21 am

Yes , it would be warmer without global warming. This is the “New Science”.

March 23, 2015 10:12 am

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/01/30/what-are-your-fears-about-global-warming-and-climate-change/#comment-1847727
[excerpt]
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”
“The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
– H.L. Mencken
Comment:
Mencken’s above statement applies not only the President, but also to the Governor of California…

Duster
Reply to  Allan MacRae
March 23, 2015 10:56 am

Mencken’s statment applies to ALL politicians. When you consider the gamut of things that politicians encourage you to be afraid of (left AND right wings), it is a wonder that anyone will get out of bed in the morning. Rudyard Kipling summarized the political agendas, left and right, in MacDonough’s Song nearly a century ago. It has not changed in any substantive way since he published it. Unfortunately he could not offer any real solution that was not as bad as the problem.

Reply to  Duster
March 23, 2015 12:26 pm

Duster,
Not all politicians are, in Mencken;’s words. “downright morons”.
Several Canadian politicians I know personally are intelligent, competent and ethical.
It can happen… …really!
However, you need a voting public that demonstrates some degree of education and intelligence.
I suggest we should implement an intelligence test at the voting booth, which questions such as:
1. Is professional wrestling real or fake?
2. If your car says Dodge on the front of it, do you really need a horn?
3. Why is it called lipstick if you can still move your lips?
4. etc.

Brandon Gates
Reply to  Duster
March 23, 2015 6:12 pm

I assert that politics is an inherently stupid system, forever doomed to corruption, inefficiency, and non-optimal outcomes. What really makes a good politician, oxymoronic as that may be, is someone who is intelligent enough to embrace that but not find it disgusting to have as colleagues people who are just as venal and self-servingly opportunistic as most of us would probably conclude they are — that is, if we could truly appreciate how much of an amoral scumbag it takes to effectively govern the doings of more than a few thousands of venal, self-serving, opportunistic humans who have deluded ourselves into believing that we’re anything but.

asybot
Reply to  Duster
March 23, 2015 9:33 pm

Thanks Allan after all the BS I really needed the laugh ( and I think most Canadians would pass the test not so sure about the rest)

Doonman
March 23, 2015 11:06 am

Dear Jerry Brown,
100% of Jesuit priests believe Jesus was the son of God. Since you elected to drop out of pursuing the priesthood, have your views on the subject changed? If so, why and if not, why not?

DirkH
Reply to  Doonman
March 23, 2015 12:33 pm

Sounds like a consensus amongst the experts. So it’s proven. By their own logic, warmists must now embrace Christianity.

Pamela Gray
Reply to  Doonman
March 23, 2015 1:11 pm

Silly off-topic question.

March 23, 2015 11:51 am

Reblogged this on Public Secrets and commented:
Ah, I wish we knew what sin we had committed as a state to deserve a governor like Jerry. Scary thing is, for those who don’t know California, is that he’s one of the sane(r) Democrats in Sacramento.

Gary Pearse
March 23, 2015 11:57 am

Man oh man, I think most of the voters for Gerry Brown showed up here today!! Look, like I said about stupid policies and statements of governments, you aren’t obliged to buy into them because you voted for them. It’s okay for you to be critical of government. Now there is a dangerous concept, I guess.

March 23, 2015 12:58 pm

Jerry Brown, now there’s a piece of work. He’s been in the “I’m an environmentalist and all my friends make BIG money” Take his dad, for instance, Brown Sr. spent his entire life in public service starting out as a District Attorney and ending with Governorship and on the meager pay of a civil servant retired the State of California’s richest man!? When his environmentalist son was elected Governor (Jerry Brown: the prequil) and insisted on setting the emissions standards to the most restrictive in the country at time, Old man Brown just happened to be the legal council for the Indonesian oil Monopoly. Now the significance of that was that California needed to purchase virtually all of it’s crude oil from Indonesia in order to acquire the kind of raw material necessary to meet the new standard (Saudi Sweet). You can bet there were some hellacious legal fees involved in all that contract writing. Pat Brown, who was the scion of the democratic party,for his part, used to flash a whimsical little smile and claim he didn’t agree with his son on everything and shrug his shoulders in a sort of “kids…what you gonna do about ’em” gesture.

March 23, 2015 2:07 pm

California Governor Jerry Brown is an ignorant lunatic

March 23, 2015 2:30 pm

I see somebody is commenting using my name here today.
I’ve contacted Anthony and the mods.
If this is innocent please choose another handle when posting here as I was here first and my views are nothing like yours.
Otherwise please take advice on sex and travel.
[Reply: Our apologies, Mike. The banned troll “David Socrates/Robert Grumbine” (and many other fake screen names) has used your identity to post using your name. We will delete those comments. If you see any more that are not by you, please let us know. ~ mod.]

clipe
Reply to  Mike Borgelt
March 23, 2015 2:40 pm

Go forth and multiply?

Bart
Reply to  Mike Borgelt
March 23, 2015 3:45 pm

Glad to hear it. We thought something terrible had happened.

Bart
Reply to  Bart
March 23, 2015 3:48 pm

But, wait, which one are you? They all refer to http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/
[Reply: No doubt the faker got Mike’s email address from his website, then used it to spoof Mike’s identity. ~mod.]

Reply to  Bart
March 23, 2015 7:04 pm

Bart, yes they do refer to Borgelt Instruments which is me and my wife. I’m the former meteorologist and for the last 37 years we’ve been designing and manufacturing instruments for gliders.
[Interesting. Yes, even that link to your instrument web site was correct.
Again – Thank you for speaking up. we need the assistance; and the information. .mod]

Reply to  Mike Borgelt
March 23, 2015 7:02 pm

Thanks guys. The swift action is much appreciated.

Reply to  Mike Borgelt
March 23, 2015 7:07 pm

Mike Borgelt,
My sincere apology also, Mr. Borgelt. It appears that someone else has been posting using your name. That is thoroughly dishonest.
I have been responding to that troll, thinking it was you. He also goes by the screen names:
Robert Grumbine
rodmol
David Socrates
Gordon Ford
beckleybud
Juan
Pyromancer
Edward Richardson…
…and many other fake names. He impersonated another commenter [Terry Oldberg] recently the same way.
I could not understand why you had changed your views by 180º. I recall your comments from years past, and I even commented recently that you had completely changed into a climate alarmist. I couldn’t understand why. People do not change like that. I should have known. But honest people expect others to be honest, too, so we tend to be naive.
I see that the fake comments using your name have now been deleted. Dishonest game playing like that is typical of the climate alarmist crowd. They cannot win on facts and evidence, so they cheat.
I am very glad you saw this, and spoke up. That reprehensible individual was making you look bad. Now it all makes sense.

Reply to  dbstealey
March 23, 2015 9:12 pm

WOW, worth a separate post maybe – the psychiatry of having to lie harder. Are we sure it’s not Peter Gleick too ?
Now I feel bad because what I consider to be one of my better zingers was aimed against that fake-handled f-wit and compulsive liar. Sorry, real Mike Borgelt.
Seriously, I think this is definitely worthy of an exposé of the tactics of these dangerous fr@udsters if anyone has time, although I’ve known about it for years. I think back around 2008 when I read an article by George Monbiot in the gUardrian on wind turbines, it was clear that every one of the 30-odd comments was written by the same person (probably George himself, or his Mum).

Reply to  dbstealey
March 24, 2015 12:14 am

No worries, mates.
It really does speak volumes about the alarmist camp doesn’t it? Too many of them liars and cheats.
Says lots about the strength of their arguments too that they must stoop to these lengths.
Those on the CAGW side need to do a house cleaning else all of them will be tarred with the same brush.

Reply to  dbstealey
March 24, 2015 1:31 am

I notice that so far not one of the usual alarmist commenters has had anything negative to say about this blatant example of identity theft.
It was the same when Gleick was caught playing similar games. Instead of saying he did wrong, the alarmists actually defended him! They thought what he did was A-OK; a perfect example of Noble Cause corruption: the end justifies any means. They’re saving the planet, see? So stealing someone’s identity is OK — to them.
The real Mike Borgelt is a stand-up guy who is taking this far better than some of us would have. I think most folks here appreciate that.

Pamela Gray
Reply to  dbstealey
March 24, 2015 6:53 pm

I wonder how good he would be at impersonating me. Now that would be a hoot.

Patrick
March 23, 2015 3:29 pm

Because Jerry Brown said someone was unfit for office is exactly why I’d vote for him.

Reply to  Patrick
March 23, 2015 10:20 pm

Pardon me for being a pedant, but can I rephrase this to:
Because Jerry Brown said someone was unfit for office is exactly why I’d vote for that someone.

Arno Arrak
March 23, 2015 3:45 pm

Sir Harry Flashman March 23, 2015 at 9:11 am, says:
“…Jo Nova, whose article lauding the petition appeared in The Australian last week, and on her website, asked in her article if the word of one climate scientist pushing the anthroprogenic climate change barrow was worth that of 420 “scientists” who disagreed with him or her….”
Sir Harry, with all due respect for your Victoria Cross and all, would you not agree that these 420 “scientists” opposing the barrow were not actually scientists but simply lightweights, like technicians or lab assistants? The implication is that all it takes is one scientist to scatter them out of the way. They would need to fit into the feed trough of the Queen of Abyssinia’s lion cage and 420 egos is too much for that. Climate scientists, those who publish peer reviewed papers today, have learnt to glue their noses to the rear end of the Queen who also edits science journals. Like the science journal Nature says,forty percent of the papers they receive are thrown out immediately because they fail the smell test. If you are lucky enough to have yours picked for that famous “peer review” you are then asked by the journal to name your favorite reviewers. All that remains for you to do now is to line up your buddies in as reviewers and you are “In like Flynn.” By the way, they also respect your privacy. Vets, dentists, and Spice girls are all welcome and only the reviewer will know the difference. I might add that it was not like that in the sixties when I acted both as an author and a reviewer. Not for climate science, which did not then exist.

unbelievable crap
March 23, 2015 3:57 pm

[Snip. Bogus email address. ~mod.]

nc
March 23, 2015 4:33 pm

For all of you worried about the weather and climate move to Canada as we have neither. The proof is shown on the map at 8:22.

mebbe
Reply to  nc
March 23, 2015 6:29 pm

I took it to mean that we are in no way extreme

Sceptical Pat
March 23, 2015 4:41 pm

I remember a very funny National Lampoon article from many years ago with Jerry being credited with saying “How about this for an idea: solar warheads?”
If memory serves this was from the 1970s during the global cooling scare.

March 23, 2015 5:40 pm

Thanks Gov Brown. I just donated to Ted Cruz for POTUS in part because of you. First time I have ever donated to a political candidate (or party).

Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
March 23, 2015 6:01 pm

NOTE: Be sure to donate to the candidate, not the party. The republican party is working against Ted Cruz…

old construction worker
March 23, 2015 5:44 pm

Ah yes Jerry Brown, he’s a man who is out standing in his field. No really. He’s out standing in his Central Valley brown fields.

Khwarizmi
March 23, 2015 7:24 pm

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“It appears to me that those who rely simply on the weight of authority to prove any assertion, without searching out the arguments to support it, act absurdly. I wish to question freely and to answer freely without any sort of adulation.
That well becomes any who are sincere in the search for truth.”
– Vincenzo Galileo
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Identity theft seems to be part of the alarmist arsenal these days.
Mike Borgelt has been leaving skeptical comments on this site for years, but one of the members of your cult recently stole his name to post alarmist diatribes.
Similarly, shameless members of your religious cult forged signatures of “spice girls” in an attempt to muddy the waters of the Oregon Petition.
When they don’t like the signature, they smear the pixels so the audience can’t read it:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/10/25/why-did-pbs-frontline-electronically-alter-the-signature-of-one-of-the-worlds-most-distinguished-physicists-in-their-report-climate-of-doubt/
That’s how your version of “science” works, Mr Flash-Bang.

SCheesman
March 23, 2015 7:29 pm

I haven’t seen any reference to this, but the March 1 issue of EOS “Earth & Space Science News” features an article describing a recent study published in Geophysical Research Letters by Hassanzadeh et. al. It is titled “Polar Warming Makes the Jet Stream Stable, Not Wavy or Blocked”. They find that previous studies overlooked critical factors, and conclude (in the words of the author of the article) “rather than making the jet stream wavier and causing more atmospheric blocking, polar warming is actually streamlining the jet stream and reducing the incidence of blocking events”.

Walt D.
March 23, 2015 8:58 pm

Global Warming causes extreme taxes!

March 23, 2015 9:04 pm

If only wind farms could generate half as much energy as SirHaFla, the Green Machine would be victorious.

Scott
March 23, 2015 9:13 pm

Good night Gracie……