Yes you read that headline correctly. Yesterday in Huntington Beach there was snow. And, in Redondo Beach, waterspouts were reported. I’m sure it won’t be long before somebody tries to blame these weather events on “global warming” which is fast becoming the “universal bogeyman” for any weather event.
And in downtown:
Another shot of downtown Huntington Beach dusted with a light covering of snow this morning pic.twitter.com/29eTzK1p0K
— 🇺🇸 Vlad3060 🇨🇺 (@vlad3060) March 3, 2015
Waterspouts:
Pair of waterspouts seen this evening off the coast of Redondo Beach, CA https://t.co/qZJdklJg4R pic.twitter.com/GeYrJvi76v
— BuzzFeed Storm (@BuzzFeedStorm) March 2, 2015
These events were all part of a frontal system moving through, hardly unprecedented. It seems there was a similar event with snow on the beach in 1987.
Observers indicated the snow might be very fine hail, possibly from a cold core thunderstorm. Whatever it is, it has nothing to do with “global warming”.
btw – southern Californians have been calling hail “snow” my entire lifetime so don’t blame them.
In 57 years I actually only saw real snow in the basin twice.
I was working near Whittier in December of 1968(?) on a road crew and we drove to the top of a hill and it snowed.
I don’t think it snowed at the bottom of the hill.
Only time I remember it snowing in the metro area at least
I was a student in the Lowell Joint School District (straddled the Orange/LA County border near Whittier) and I remember riding my bike to school in a light snow – it very well might have been 68.
I saw snow on dirt Mulholland January 18th, 2007. I have a picture with tracks made by a Ranger’s truck and my MTB tires. Too cold for anyone else. Weather Underground says the record low for Van Nuys airport (35 degrees) was made January 17th 2007 (the previous night?).
I live about 50 miles south at a different beach, based on what we saw here, it was small hail…
We Californians (beach area) sometimes forget, if you can hear it hitting the ground…it isn’t snow.
As a climate refugee from New Hampshire I know if you hear a hissing sound as it lands on water, it is snow.
That is just too cute …
looks like a heavy frost.
Meanwhile, after somehow surviving the coldest month ever, we’ve started March with typical February weather and have already gone over 100 inches of snow and if the season ends up just average (we should be so lucky), we’ll probably be pushing 120″ … two feet above average.
Where’s Al Gore’s global warming when we need it so much?!!
The event was widely reported on the Northern California TV stations as a hail storm. One report I saw ran the radar loop showing the thunderstorm that produced it. Weather Underground reported the low temperature in Huntington Beach as 48 F.
Looks like the worlds lowest hanging fog bank.
They didn’t mention the snow but ABC News this morning said there is a report that blames the California drought on man-made climate change. They must not remember California had droughts long before there was any man-made climate change.
According to Wikipedia, over the last millennium or so, two mega-droughts have been recorded in California – 850AD to 1090AD (240 years) and 1140AD – 1320AD (180 years).
Spring calls ahead to say it’s coming for a visit.
I understand the glee when weather events clash with the anthropogenic CO2 driven global warming religion but, before we get too cocky, understand that the snow pack in most of the western US is in very poor condition. And, we are rapidly running out of the snow making season. Thus, if we get a few lightning busts this summer, it could be a very bad fire season.
Should this happen, we must be prepared to debate the high priests again, and show that the large fires are more the result of decades of criminally negligent management of the huge federal forest land in the west, and the typical dry summer weather and recurrent dry lightning events that have been happening for eons.
This might be a good time for an ENSO update Bob. The 3.4 NINO region took a bug jump upwards in temperature but there is a mass of anomalously cold water just north of it. Any of this have to do with the RRR?
California is in an AGW caused drought and if you don’t believe it the Federal and State water management systems will continue and accelerate the practice of dumping run off into the Pacific Ocean. Has anybody thought to check on the impact of all that fresh water on San Francisco Bay? It could be having an impact like the “streamers” reported yesterday at that “environmentally correct” solar plant in the desert. Like attracting those fresh water loving bull sharks into the bay to eat all those protected salmon. Lord knows those “endangered” sea lions eat the heck out of them!
Could those water spouts be cold air funnels instead?
Visible blast of Arctic air over California.
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Wicked and persistent Rex Block. Year upon year. Really bad for the drought. Not only is this how megadroughts happen, it may also be how Laurentide critical accumulations happen.
Of cause it is climate change, that’s obvious, just look out of your window.. And you know AGW causes climate change, so it is proved.
AGW you know is not the same as GW, the antropogenic component works mysteriously, so that cold weather is also AGW.
Why make it more difficult than it is.
Hail. Happens more often than you think in Huntington Beach but usually disappears quickly. I live a couple blocks from the Pacific in Huntington Beach and my neighborhood was targeted by the “super cell” hail years back. It accumulated 4 inches of hail on the ground. This hail was interesting in that it was cold (for us) and it took several hours to melt.
Surely people running the best science blog know the difference between hail and snow?
the Al Gore effect strikes again:
1 Mar: Newsweek: Greg Evans: Exposing the Doubt-Mongers Trying to Convince You Climate Change Isn’t Real
Joining the fray is filmmaker Robert Kenner, whose surprisingly rollicking screen adaptation of Merchants of Doubt opens March 6 in New York and Los Angeles…
NEWSWEEK’S GREG EVANS: How did you make a film about global warming entertaining?
KENNER: First of all, I don’t think it is about global warming. I think it’s about people who create doubt. Their next big payday just happens to be climate change…
http://www.newsweek.com/exposing-doubt-mongers-trying-convince-you-climate-change-isnt-real-310372
The Imminent Catastophic Great Cooling cometh with doooom in its wake!!
ISTR it was actually 1988/89. There was snow on the ground from Van Nuys to Thousand Oaks (Ventura County), that I knew of, and probably south of there. The snow stuck around in Thousand Oaks long enough that we were having snowball fights in the lab I worked in (yes, inside, but hey, we were Californians…).
Anyone else notice how the Great Lakes’ Ice Cover dropped 10% in the last 3 days? Musta been some heat wave–Equatorial Vortex??????
They do say that Perth (Western Australia) actually has the weather that Californians think they have. No snow here – ever!
Didn’t snow here either…….hail from a thunderstorm…..in the 60s
at the time. Never a thunderstorm in Perth?
We get hail in the spring usually. Temperatures need to be above 60F usually or you don’t get the warm updrafts needed. The colder temps with this event in California make me question “hail”. Sounds more like ice rain, which is not the same.
“Sounds more like ice rain, which is not the same.” It was little balls of ice dancing off the hood of my car and the ground while I was driving and little balls of ice covering my lawn and the street in front of my house. What’s that?
Apparently there has been snow around Perth three times…look up that nice Mr Google.
Our rather cool summer in the south eastern part of Australia has disappeared, with a bit of snow on Mt Wellington in Tassie and Mt Buller in Victoria. I hope we don’t have a repeat of last year’s lack of autumn where we went straight from summer to winter.
Excuse me if this doesn’t embed. Van Morrison sang Snow in San Anselmo in 1973. Could he have been referring to the 1968 snowfall? [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPfhvzBRey8&w=560&h=315%5D
Please……I like to trust this site…..but it was hail from a thunderstorm…..and in the 60s at the time. We don’t need the alarmist style headlines do we?
Exactly. I made a little “snowman” in South Africa at Christmas time, but in my heart of hearts I knew he was really made of hail stones.
Garymount but a grantseeking climate scientist on global news from UBC said the lousy ski season near Vancouver this year is proof of AGW with Galis nodding in agreement. So there.
Sarc
@nc, remember the Olympics on Whistler? Even then they had to shorten up the downhill, truck in snow etc I also seem to remember the “Winter” Olympics Japan, the last one in Sochi etc . If you look at the prevailing wind patterns of all three locations they all one thing in common all of them are on the east side of large bodies of water (Pacific Ocean, Sea of Japan and the Black Sea) and if anything these zones are anything but a “Winter Climate” region, They are temperate.climate areas. If you want to have winter games do it in the Alps, Sweden, Finland, Minnesota, Illinois or the Urals and the Himalayas for that matter etc. but the games are political as He,l. cost the taxpayers nothing but money and in reality don’t accomplish much but…..
I watched them too. (but I didn’t even know Global “news” was still there)
This is proof of Man Made
Global Warming Climate ChangeClimate Disruption!!!!We are as doomed as we could possibly be!
If not more so.
Well so much for ‘The East is colder but the West is warmer’ narrative.