Yes you read that headline correctly. Yesterday in Huntington Beach there was snow. And, in Redondo Beach, waterspouts were reported. I’m sure it won’t be long before somebody tries to blame these weather events on “global warming” which is fast becoming the “universal bogeyman” for any weather event.
And in downtown:
Another shot of downtown Huntington Beach dusted with a light covering of snow this morning pic.twitter.com/29eTzK1p0K
— 🇺🇸 Vlad3060 🇨🇺 (@vlad3060) March 3, 2015
Waterspouts:
Pair of waterspouts seen this evening off the coast of Redondo Beach, CA https://t.co/qZJdklJg4R pic.twitter.com/GeYrJvi76v
— BuzzFeed Storm (@BuzzFeedStorm) March 2, 2015
These events were all part of a frontal system moving through, hardly unprecedented. It seems there was a similar event with snow on the beach in 1987.
Observers indicated the snow might be very fine hail, possibly from a cold core thunderstorm. Whatever it is, it has nothing to do with “global warming”.
That’s a beached Gore off in the distance.
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It couldn’t be Gore. Every time he lies on the beach, Environmentalists keep throwing him back into the sea.
;^D
A sure sign of global warming.
A sure sign of failure.
More snow and freezing cold records smashed in the USA and Canada. Brrrrrrr.
http://iceagenow.info/
Lowest temperature ever recorded in Cuba during the entire month of February.
http://iceagenow.info/2015/03/record-temperature-cuba/
Need to get a bigger beach.
Yah but Jimbo, North America and Cuba and Antarctica, and the Middle East and Greece and Southern Italy are not the whole world. / sarc
Nice cherry-pick, Jimbo.
http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/images/anom_nhland.gif
But… but… but Gates, I can cherry-pick, too. Better’n you:
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http://www.weathertrends360.com/Blog/Uploads/2014/12/nh-snow-cover.png
http://www.climate4you.com/images/NHemisphereSnowCoverSince1972.gif
http://weatheradvance.com/home/weather/weatheradvance.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Northern-hemisphere-snowfall-Dec-Jan-2012-13.png
http://www.thecelestialconvergence.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/northern_hemisphere_snow_cover02.png
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/service/global/snowcover-nhland/201212-201302.gif
http://www.climatedata.info/Impacts/Impacts/snow_files/BIGnh-monthly-snowcover.gif.gif
http://notrickszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Snow-cover-January.gif
http://www.thecelestialconvergence.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/northern_hemisphere_snow_cover02.png
BR-R-R-R-RRR! It’s gettin’ colder!
dbstealey,
Just because I try to NOT cherry-pick doesn’t mean I’m not good at it. Now, we could actually have a pretty interesting discussion about why the year-round NH anomaly plot …
http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/images/anom_nhland.gif
… has a different long term linear regression trend than the winter NH absolute plot …
http://www.weathertrends360.com/Blog/Uploads/2014/12/nh-snow-cover.png
I’ll go first … oh hey look, when PDO is in cold phase apparently the NH gets a bit more snow. Mind boggling.
Ever notice that some people just completely and totally miss the whole point?
Looks to me like a giant list of charts, ALL showing essentially the same thing, but the only one that “counts” doesn’t appear to show it. Brilliant. Of course, that seems to show the WELL KNOWN anomalous 60s and 70s era as if it was “normal”… yeah, the days when the in-thing for climate panic was the coming ice age.
My parents, who are approaching 80, recall those years as being far greater in snowfall than anything in their youth or today. Then again, what could they know? They only actually lived through the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s…
Gates,
You keep avoiding the elephant in the room:
Global warming stopped, and not just a few years ago. Which deconstructs the MMGW narrative.
And after this winter, I’m surprised anyone would want to discuss snow cover or global warming. But, to each his own…
@ur momisugly Alberta slim, “Environmentalists keep throwing him back into the sea.”
So that is where the sea-level rise comes from.
dbstealey,
Here the MET’s take on the surface:
http://climexp.knmi.nl/data/ihadcrut4_ns_avg.png
Christy and Spencer’s view of the lower troposphere:
http://climexp.knmi.nl/data/itlt_gl.png
Same, land only:
http://climexp.knmi.nl/data/itlt_land.png
Ibid, SST only:
http://climexp.knmi.nl/data/itlt_sea.png
It’s difficult to see without doing a dreaded “overlay chart”, but one of those is trending a bit faster than the other. An honest, curious, intelligent truth-seeking skeptic would ask why. Such a person who truly possesses the barest inkling of physics would not find it at all difficult to believe that:
1) Ocean water has a far greater heat capacity than both atmosphere and land and
2) The oceans experience rather more rapid vertical circulations than the Earth’s crust.
And upon reviewing some other relevant evidence ….
http://climexp.knmi.nl/data/itemp2000_global.png
… would be therefore disposed to properly discern that the glaringly incomplete nature of your “global warming stopped” claim is very likely ignorant buffoonery of the absolute worst kind.
Aside from Alaskans, Scandinavians and Eastern Europeans to rattle off a few from memory. For that matter, this winter at least, exile to Siberia might sound more like a good vacation to some cosmopolitan Russians.
I get it that such data points are lost on folks who confuse their backyard with the entire globe, or who claim to care about the rest of the world but give little more than just lip-service to the notion — however, as you say: to each his own.
It’s always amusing to get Gates to spin up like that. ☺
Not that it matters, all he’s demonstrating is natural climate variability.
Uh-oh. Thar she blows.
Lots of gore in that video.
Meanwhile, baked Alaska:
http://pamola.um.maine.edu/DailySummary/frames/GFS-025deg/DailySummary/GFS-025deg_NH-SAT1_T2_anom.png
And the pole itself. Plus NE Greenland, most of Scandanavia, a good portion of N. Europe … and who could miss that big warm anomaly over the East Siberian and Laptev Seas?
If it ain’t hot in my backyard, it ain’t hot.
ONE day? compared to 21 years? And compared to the last 18 years of flat lined global temp readings, you picked ONE day? Give it up Barry.
asybot,
Well, that “snow” on the beach ain’t been there for months now has it.
Last I checked 21 barely over half of 40:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MW_NJp28Udc/VNS3EAEqpOI/AAAAAAAAAUs/hjhuLZFkdoM/s1600/hadcrut4%2Bhiatuses.png
You were saying?
Barry,
Last I checked, the current natural warming step is the same as prior natural warming steps, as the planet continues to emerge from the LIA:
http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/hadley/Hadley-global-temps-1850-2010-web.jpg
The alarmist crowd is clearly nuts, because they presume that the last warming step — although it is identical to previous *natural* warming steps — must be due to an entirely different cause: man-made global warming. As if.
That’s how out of touch with reality the climate alarmists are. They’re nuts.
Give it up, Barry. You are grasping at straws; your beliefs are irrational, your ‘evidence’ is cherry-picked nonsense, and Planet Earth is busy debunking your crazy belief system.
Weird. I sure hope this climate change doesn’t mean the Baywatch lifeguards will be wearing fur coats?
No, but it should be cold enough to raise a few points 😉
And cause shrinkage in the budgie-smuggler.
Bet the skipper of the yacht was having a squeaky bum moment.
Just a reminder that Florida is full. Don’t come here.
Sure, but I wonder if Max likes surfing the slurpees?
I was just in Tampa last month, it was nice to be in just freezing weather and a 25 degree wind chill instead of the -18 and -25F wind chills back home! I will say Florida cold feels about 15 degrees colder than the same Michigan temperature for some reason.
You weren’t imagining things, you felt colder because of the high humidity which dampens your skin and clothing just slightly, but enough to conduct more heat away from your body. I first experienced this in Okinawa when I was caught off guard at how cold 40 F felt in the subtropics.
Of course it has nothing to do with “global warming”, since “global warming” is quickly becoming considered similar to mythological Gods and creatures.
Notwithstanding there is credible evidence that a spat between Zeus and Juno has been implicated in the California snow.
“Climate Change”! It MUST be called “Climate Change”! I INSIST you call it “Climate Change” (at least until summer; then we can switch back to “Global Warming”)!
I definitely recall, from my early childhood in Pasadena, mid to late 1950’s, finding a layer of actual ice outside on some collected water. It may have been in one of my play sand buckets. 😉
I remember snow in Loma Linda California the winter of 1948-49. There was just a few inches – enough to make a snowman.
Perhaps this is Natures opinion on mann-made global warming. Their religion is crumbling thanks to the few who stand unafraid.
There seems to be an interesting phenomenon here – “When people lie about global warming, the climate reacts in such a way as to maximize the ridiculousness of the claim”. This is something straight out of a Hollywood TV miniseries – truth is stranger than fiction. I suppose this saves a ski trip to Mammoth Mountain!
Where is the “Hoff”, and that blonde person?
That blonde person is looking pretty rough these daze.
I thought it was hail that looked like snow?
So, now that it is snowing even in hot LA, will the NASA and NOAA ‘scientists’ living in California finally admit that it is trending towards colder weather?
Naw.
The harder the almarist work, the “behinder” they get.
Absolutely nothing the alarmists have predicted has even come close to reflecting reality.
All they’re left with is developing new excuses for why their hypothesis doesn’t work, rather than accepting the obvious fact that their hypothesis is a bust.
More and more people are finally realizing the CAGW scaremongering has become a joke.
I found this in the KLOX “Area Forecast Discussion” dated 145 PM PST MON MAR 2 2015:
Between 1015 and 1045 the air temp dropped from 55°F to 48°F with 0.18″ precip and a wind report up to 12G23. This is all consistent with a thunderstorm. Way too warm to have permitted snow to reach the ground, so definitely hail.
Data from http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=sgx&sid=C1521&num=72&raw=0
I thought “Ice Pellets” was the correct meteorological term for tiny hailstones.
{ The famous “Ice pellets” football game in Dallas comes to mind, Dolphins V. Cowboys. I think the Dolphins won.}
In the US we used to call small ice pellets “sleet” and the large ones “hail”. However, locally, I haven’t heard the sleet term used as they usually just say “small hail”.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sleet
Also maybe of interest is the term “graupel”, which is a small snow pellet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graupel
@ur momisugly BFL “sleet” as far as I know (an observer for the Gov 2 x a day for 20+ years) is more a mix of rain and wet snow, sometimes mixed with hail pellets and generally comes with high and gusty winds and drastic changes (lowering) in temperatures and as someone else mentioned associated with thunderstorms/ tornadoes/ flash floods etc. , generally formed in a squall, they don’t last very long but can be very destructive to farmers especially ( and of course houses, cars everything in their path) But you can fix a roof or a car but it is hard to put a peach back on a tree (until next year of course and then hope it does not happen again)
Yep, TSTMs. Temps were in the upper 40s, low 50s. Long Beach Airport (KLGB) reported the TSTM. John Wayne Airport (KSNA) reported the rain but not thunder. Cold core TSTM due mainly to secondary impulse instability. Cool pictures, nonetheless.
KLGB 021853Z 15004KT 10SM -RA FEW008 SCT022 OVC040 11/08 A2993 RMK AO2 TSB03E20 SLP135 VSBY S 2SM P0020 T01110083
KLGB 021825Z 19005KT 10SM -RA FEW008 SCT022 OVC040 10/08 A2993 RMK AO2 TSB03E20 VSBY S 2SM P0017 T01000078
KLGB 021807Z 25006G14KT 4SM +TSRA FEW022 BKN035 OVC045 11/08 A2995 RMK AO2 TSB03 P0005 T01110078
KLGB 021753Z COR 34008KT 10SM RA FEW008 SCT020 BKN055 OVC070 13/09 A2993 RMK AO2 RAB39 SLP136 P0000 60000 T01280089 10133 20094 53010
KSNA 021853Z 24008G18KT 2 1/2SM R20R/5000VP6000FT +RA BKN026 BKN046 OVC055 11/06 A2997 RMK AO2 RAB16 SLP150 P0014 T01060061
KSNA 021849Z 22013KT 2 1/2SM R20R/5000VP6000FT RA BKN026 BKN046 OVC055 11/07 A2997 RMK AO2 RAB16 PRESRR P0011
KSNA 021753Z 00000KT 10SM SCT025 BKN060 BKN110 15/07 A2993 RMK AO2 SLP135 T01500067 10156 20111 51010
this is exactly what the climate models predicted. as the world warms, LA will get more and more snow.
Most likely pea hail from the impressive looking storm that also produced the sea spouts.
But the warmists keep telling us that weather isn’t climate, and climate isn’t weather. Except when it is. Or isn’t. Or something.
Exactly.
Weather not Climate.
Weather = What happens in the real world.
Climate = What happens in the computerised fever dreams of the paranoid.
I learned this here: Global Warming Climate Disruption causes “warmcolddroughtflood”.
It’s that simple.
M Courtney,
I’ve no idea who first said, “Climate is what you expect, weather is what you get,” or when, but I’ll wager you a fiver that it predates Al Gore. At present, the WMO defines climate thusly: http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/wcp/ccl/faqs.php
Climate, sometimes understood as the “average weather,” is defined as the measurement of the mean and variability of relevant quantities of certain variables (such as temperature, precipitation or wind) over a period of time, ranging from months to thousands or millions of years.
The classical period is 30 years, as defined by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). Climate in a wider sense is the state, including a statistical description, of the climate system.
Your paranoia crack provided the recommended daily allowance of irony, thanks for that.
I surfed Redondo and Huntington Beaches when I was a teen — in the days of Endless Summer. Did see snow in Los Angeles when I was five years old.
Waterspouts are cooler when seen from the beach — I’ve seen then from the sailboat (not the one in the picture, but my own). From the sailboat they are awesome and cause for concern. One of the boats in the Clipper Round the World Race last year ot hit by one in a squall [video here]. .
I liked the video Paul Hardy makes the important point which I’m sure Willis would agree with that the sea’s the boss.
James Bull
There was a time not so long ago this would have been blamed on sin. Hollywood, the evils of sex, the wages of sin. god’s wrath visited upon the sinners in the form of waterspouts and hail. waterspouts especially. all that is missing is a rain of frogs.
now we know that climate change has nothing to do with sex, unless you’ve worked for the IPCC, or were caught banging the maid, or the masseuse. instead, global warming is caused by the mortal sin of fossil fuels. and by California’s own records, the dirtiest fossil fuels are produced RIGHT OUTSIDE LA at the Placerita oil field. Co-incidence? Not likely.
this is nature’s wrath, god’s will, visited on the people of LA for the sin of producing North America’s dirtiest fossil fuel.
http://www.ipolitics.ca/2014/07/18/how-clean-is-our-dirty-oil-youd-be-surprised/
I have been playing up the relatively warm weather here in south western Canada, however it has been 3 C below average for minimum temperatures here lately. Must be global warming.
That’s what you get for crowing about your warm weather.
And the high for this day was wayyyy back in 1937. Wonder how skiing was back in ol’ 37 up at Whistler
Was there a Whistler Ski area in the late 30’s? I kind of doubt it , when I was a skier in the early seventies Whistler/Garibaldi were at best walk in and you had to be “high” (not in temperature) to go there. I cannot of hand remember the 2 ski areas closer to Vancouver in those days but even those were primitive at best even in the early 70’s. Now of course Whistler is a world class resort and has some of the best skiing.
Well there is more climate model pseudoscience on attribution of the California drought to global warming, so why not this too?
With a magic Climate model, attribution to increasing CO2 is possible for anything. If it turns warmer and wetter, that too will be evidence of AGW.
The magic climate model works well with my bank account as well. In a few years, I’ll be the wealthiest person .. ever
heh I got over 100 inches in Feb so this looks like frost to me LOL
and I thought 100% probability was statistically impossible, so good to know
Being an Ozzie the green tyrants of California deserve to be dumped upon by cold global warming.
We are now in a Cooling Earth. This means warm [but cooling] oceans, cool [and getting colder] land masses. The result will be more of the same weather patterns, but with a continuing colder bias. In addition, the Jet Stream, in winter, will continue to move further South. Pretty obvious how the Ice Age occurs. Let’s see, CO2 up, Solar output down; I wonder what is causing this???
http://www.solen.info/solar/images/comparison_recent_cycles.png
Global Warming in North American will go away when California gets cold!
Interesting graph. One thing that stands out for me is the second peak is taller than the first in Cycle 24 but the opposite seems to be true for the others. Coincidence or is this trying to tell us something?
I suspect it’s because this cycle will have a rather long second half. Notice how cycle 23 was longer than the others? 24 may be longer yet, and I believe this is common with diminishing solar flux.
Not meaning to knock SoCal, it’s just your comment reminded me of this.
http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n488/Bartemis/road2hell_zpsrtasudes.jpg
Take it from a SoCal (who btw is a lukewarmer/skeptic), that was hail.