The proposed draft UN climate agreement is reported to have ballooned to 100 pages, from the 38 page draft discussed at the Lima holiday conference.
According to the Sydney Morning Herald;
“… It’s like 195 authors trying to write a book together,” said Ahmed Sareer of the Maldives, chair of the 44-nation Alliance of Small Island States, which added text including stress on a need for deep cuts in greenhouse gas emissions.
“It’s to be expected,” Elina Bardram, head of the European Commission delegation, said of the additions.
The European Union added text, for instance, outlining proposals for cutting emissions from aviation and shipping under a global deal to avert more heatwaves, floods and droughts. The United Nations says 2014 was the warmest year on record.
The new text, of about 100 pages, swells a draft of 38 pages from talks in Lima last year, complicating the task ahead of a Paris summit starting in November that is due to agree a UN deal to limit global warming.
Given the fact that countries are free to write their own terms, including joke effort’s like China’s agreement to do nothing until the 2030s, in return for America agreeing to commit economic suicide, the greatest contribution to CO2 reduction Paris is likely to produce, will be the sequestration in some dusty filing cabinet, of all the carbon copies, of what promises to be the longest climate agreement ever written.
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That first graph from NASA’s Orbiting Carbon showed us that the increase in carbon dioxide is coming from poor countries, not rich ones, and while some is coming from China’s coal, more is coming from the Killing Of Life via slash-and-burn agriculture in Southern Hemisphere countries; and from dams.
Restoration Agriculture, such as found in the Permaculture videos and books; and animal rotation, such as found in the books by/about Joel Salatin or Schwartz’s “Cows Save The Planet;” sequester carbon back in the soil for health-improving results.
The Alarmists, however, recommend life-destroying anti-solutions such as storing carbon dioxide deep underground. We are carbon-based life forms, which begins with the biochemical reduction of CO2 in plants, so a more directly anti-Life activity than underground carbon sequestration is hard to imagine.
The alarmists do make an attempt with their hard work to destroy coal and other “fossil” fuels. These are the basis of a significant fraction of the American and worldwide economies.Since strong economies are positively correlated with care for the environment, these activities are an assault on the biosphere.
The damaged economies are a severe threat for WAR. Howe and Strauss’s books, such as “The Fourth Turning,” show that in the next decade or so, war could be so passionate as to become nuclear war. While that threat was exaggerated in the 1970’s scares about “nuclear winter,” the damage would be severe and Earth’s carrying capacity would be sharply reduced for all forms of life.
So. Skeptics, you are not merely fighting for the restoration of the Scientific Method, nor for truth and accuracy. You are fighting for your very life, and all your tribe.
But 97% of the authors agree that they are drafting an agreement.
So that’s settled.
Like all UN bodies the IPCC main task is to ensure that they are there tomorrow and for many days afterwards, its next most important task to ‘grow ‘ , endless streams of BS paper are the fertilizer of bureaucracy that helps this growth .
11 Feb: UN Dispatch: Meet a 2015-er: Ronny Jumeau, Seychelles Ambassador to the United Nations, who often represents the Association of Small Island States (AOSIS)
Q. So, we’re sitting here in a snow storm in New York and you are headed to equally cold Geneva for the adaptation meeting of the UNFCC. Let’s talk about the climate change SDG (Sustainable Development Goals). What is your role in all these negotiations?
JUMEAU: My job is to explain things in a way that people understand, without the jargon. We need to move past that and look at the people involved in climate change. We can’t just focus on the science or graphs and figures…
Another example is the airport in Seychelles which [ according to the data] will need a new runway to be built at a level that is higher than the whole airport is currently. We need the additional runway to increase tourism, but how do you build it without knowing how high the ocean level will rise and when?
The Secretary General gets it. His Cabinet gets it. But politics comes into play…
Q. Is it really about finance?
JUMEAU: It’s all about finance…
Q. Is it necessarily a bad thing to be so focused on finance?
JUMEAU: When countries like China and U.S. are interested in solar power, its not because of climate change – it’s business and economic development. I’m not going to argue with that though – whatever it takes to get you to the table!…
http://www.undispatch.com/meet-2015er-ronny-jumeau/
The BBC (on BBC4) will soon be showing their usual propoganda on climate change no doubrt to help brain wash the public in the run up to Paris 2015..
So they’ve given up on the goal of reducing CO2 output and have moved on to Mitigation.
There’s progress.
Someone in the government(s) will eventually figure out how many $Billions it will cost to reduce the world CO2 concentration by 1 ppm, and how many millionths of a degree C each 1 ppm will reduce global temperatures (modeled global temperatures). The cost in $ trillions for virtually no noticeable improvement in living conditions for the average worker will be impossible to swallow.
Mitigation will then be dead.
So we’ll then move from mitigation to acceptance.
Let the rich people living on the coast move a block back from the current beach line.
Problem solved!
You’ve got to hand it to the propagandists: they have managed to make the stuff of life (i.e. carbon) into a bogeyman and the weather a political football. I think former generations might have thought it simply impossible to do such things.
Burn it! Reclaim the CO2!
12 Feb: Financial Times: Shell chief urges industry to speak up in climate debate
Pilita Clark in Geneva and Christopher Adams in London
The head of Royal Dutch Shellis urging his industry to spell out why the world needs it, as talks intensify on a global climate deal due to be signed this year.
In a speech on Thursday night at International Petroleum Week — one of the biggest events on the industry’s calendar — Ben van Beurden, Shell’s chief executive, is expected to say that big energy companies have not been assertive enough in the global warming debate and some need to take a critical look at themselves.
“In the past we thought it was better to keep a low profile on the issue. I understand that tactic but in the end it’s not a good tactic,” he will say, in a robust departure from the more muted statements senior energy executives normally make about climate change.
His comments come as representatives of more than 190 countries meet in Geneva …
Mr van Beurden will say the industry must make the case that the world’s energy needs will underpin the use of fossil fuels for decades to come, so instead of ruling them out there should be a focus on lowering carbon emissions.
Shell has long been in favour of a price on carbon and technologies to capture and store CO2 emissions, though its Arctic drilling efforts have also made it a large target of climate change campaigners…
***In a mark of the growing tendency for oil and gas companies publicly to point the finger at coal producers, Mr van Beurden is due to argue on Thursday that the most important way to cut emissions is to shift from coal to natural gas…
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c3bda478-b205-11e4-8396-00144feab7de.html
***it always boils down to killing off the competition…..coal.
All about Earmark
***still trying to pull off another market “fix” to kill coal.
12 Feb: Bloomberg: Ewa Krukowska: EU Draft Deal Proposes Carbon-Market Fix by End of 2018
The European Union should start a mechanism to curb oversupply in the carbon market by the end of 2018, sooner than 2021 as proposed by the bloc’s regulator, under a compromise plan proposed today in the European Parliament.
Ivo Belet, who is steering the draft measure to introduce the emissions market stability reserve through the legislature, put forward a proposal aimed at building cross-party support before a Feb. 24 vote in the assembly’s environment committee…
“It is a balanced agreement,” said Peter Liese, lead lawmaker on the file for the EPP, the biggest group in the EU parliament. ’’We will encourage investment in low-carbon economy because the ETS will work again. At the same time we took care that energy intensive industry is protected from carbon leakage.’’ …
***The 28-nation EU is seeking to strengthen its cap-and-trade emissions program after the price of permits plunged almost 70 percent since 2008 to levels that fail to deter industry from burning coal, the most-polluting fossil fuel…
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-12/eu-draft-deal-proposes-carbon-market-fix-by-end-of-2018
12 Feb: Metro News Canada: Carbon tax part of part of Ontario Environment Ministry discussion paper
A controversial carbon tax is included in a climate change strategy discussion paper released Thursday by Ontario Environment Minister Glen Murray.
“Putting a price on carbon assigns economic value to our atmosphere and environment,” the discussion paper stated.
“A well-designed carbon pricing system is the most cost-effective approach to reducing greenhouse gas emissions,” it stated…
He told a news conference Thursday there is no “greater threat” to mankind than climate change.
***“Our children will be the first to never know a normal climate,” he said after the discussion paper was released…
The consultation paper contends there is a “growing global consensus” in favour of carbon pricing.
The Progressive Conservative have made it clear they will vigorously oppose a carbon tax….
The discussion paper also puts forward a cap-and-trade system as another way of putting a price on carbon…
http://metronews.ca/news/canada/1286407/carbon-tax-part-of-part-of-ontario-environment-ministry-discussion-paper/
the EU solution reminds me of a very similar plan from the earth’s distant past:
“So in order to obviate this problem,” he continued, “and effectively revalue the leaf, we are about to embark on a massive defoliation campaign, and…er, burn down all the forests. I think you’ll all agree that’s a sensible move under the circumstances.”
@Patrick Guinness
Carbon tax part of part of Ontario Environment Ministry discussion paper
Discussion on Metro 2 comments
Carbon tax part of part of Ontario Environment Ministry…
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“Our children will be the first to never know a normal climate,” he said after the discussion paper was released.
Now where have I heard of this ‘think of the children” cr@p before?
Oh yes! The famous climatologist Dr David Viner
Monday 20 March 2000
“Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past”
“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,”
http://www.independent.co.uk/e…
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html
Jimbo comments on February 12, 2015 at 11:52 am:
“Whether or not CAGW is shown to be total crap …. there is going to be no surrender. Even if the world began strongly cooling it would not matter. Why?
a) The aim is not about climate but about money, agendas and power. Set up those institutions and controls before the fat lady sings.”
Sadly I believe this is true. There’s too much inertia to stop the hoax now. The best we can achieve is to shame those responsible but I have the feeling that once they accomplish their goals they won’t even care. The only hope is for the skeptic nations to multiply once the unintended consequences are fully realized. You can bet China and India will be laughing all the way to the bank. All they have to do is sit back and watch the ‘West’ deteriorate while they thrive. CO2 emissions will continue to rise and the cry for action from the Greenies/Socialists/United Nations/Whatever will just shift to another bogeyman.
Give me an hour, and two paragraphs, and I too might attempt to entice a riot.
With the same results.
The “warmists” say it is all about communication, it probably is, that is why it (communication) scares the hell out of them.
Just need to get the facts out there.
In case all of you missed it, a UN official has admitted publicly that the UN’s goal with its climate change program is to destroy the capitalist economic system and even admits it will the first time in history that such an attempt is being made. Here is the link:
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/021015-738779-climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism.ht
My apologies, The link should be:
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/021015-738779-climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism.htm
Regrettably, I do not recognize FGSA. How do you use PG? Post-Grad?
Thank you for correcting the link.
Dear Mr. or Ms. Cook:
PG – Professional Geologist
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FGSA – Fellow, Geological Society of America
Sincerely
George Devries Klein
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IPCC Under Threat! Ha Ha ;-D Yeah!
I once read an intriguing definition of anarchy in government: If good governance is a laughing girl, then anarchic governance is a hysterical girl who can’t stop laughing.
The IPCC as exponent of the AGW pseudo scientific hype is a prime example of such anarchic governance. They simply can’t stop.
Sorry, I thought we were discussing THIS carbon sequestration document!! http://nas-sites.org/americasclimatechoices/public-release-event-climate-intervention-reports/
If the global climate cools … naturally … over the next decade or so, you
can guess who will claim the credit …
they’ve given up, it seems!!!
13 Feb: UK Daily Mail: Reuters: Alister Doyle: U.N. climate deal set to rely on persuasion, not coercion
A U.N. deal to fight global warming due in 2015 is set to avoid tough penalties for nations that fail to keep their promises, relying instead on persuasion and peer pressure, delegates at climate talks said on Thursday…
“We are moving towards a system of institutionalised peer pressure,” said Elliot Diringer, executive vice president of the U.S. Center for Climate and Energy Solutions think-tank. “It’s an approach that is not trying to impose penalties.”…
A draft text of about 100 pages includes many options for compliance, including that it should be “non-confrontational and non-judicial” in following up plans to limit greenhouse gas emissions linked to heatwaves, floods and rising sea levels.
Bolivia’s left-wing government this week added the idea of setting up an International Climate Justice Tribunal to judge violators. That idea is unacceptable to most…
Mary Ann Lucille Sering, Secretary of the Philippines Climate Change Commission, said “moral persuasion” was vague but better than threats. “Every time you say ‘if you don’t do this I will sue you’ then I won’t do it,” she said.
Still, Christiana Figueres, the head of the U.N. Climate Change Secretariat, said developing countries needed assurances that the rich will keep promises for action, including rising financial aid.
But she noted that Paris deal will be built from nations’ voluntary contributions to act. “This … suggests to me that this (compliance system) will be less stringent than the Kyoto Protocol,” she said…
French climate ambassador Laurence Tubiana said the Paris deal had to be built around a “rational expectation” of what was possible, rather than over-ambition.
But then there is a risk that some nations may simply offer to do too little to cut emissions.
“No one likes the idea of a total Wild West regime, where there no expectations, no rules, no standards,” said Alden Meyer, of the Union of Concerned Scientists.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-2951169/U-N-climate-deal-set-rely-persuasion-not-coercion.html
That’s good for a laugh this morning. Industrialized nations are destroying the planet and its people according to CAGW but institutionalized peer pressure is just the thing to stop it. Kind of like institutionalized peer pressure stops drug gangs from murder and selling drugs.
There are no penalties because nobody believes this is a real problem needing any meaningful attention but understand the financial, bureaucratic, and political need to keep the CAGW snowball rolling.
The Paris Agreement document could be deftly condensed to:
Stay home. Taxpayers finally figured out CAGW was a scam.
Desperation will ultimately be the IPCC’s downfall. As Paris gets closer we will be inundated with more fantastic claims and staged events. Along the way they will stumble as most political institutions do and they will hang themselves. ( I know its a half baked prayer.)
It is urgent for the people of this world to retake control of their governments. Nothing else will stop this madness. We are walking towards a political and economic cliff.
Unfortunately, it appears that there is much truth in that. The problem is that it is easier to state than to do. People in the west/developed countries do not like revolution and there is no easy option available for taking back control of government since all political parties are much the same (they are all part of the ‘establishment’) and no political party is offering democracy in the sense of government by the people, for the people. .