Contradictory contest criteria have been rectified via Keating “clarification” 
Guest post by Alec Rawls
At first glance retired physics teacher Christopher Keating’s challenge appears to be an obvious bait and switch. It opens as an invitation to “global warming skeptics” who charge that “the science doesn’t support claims of man-made climate change.” The central “claim of man-made climate change” is the IPCC’s assertion in AR5 that: “It is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century” (AR5 WGI SPM p. 17, upped from “very likely” in AR4 and “likely” in the Third Area Report). So wait a minute. All we have to do is demonstrate that this assertion of great certainty that human activity caused most late 20th century warming is clearly unsupported by the available reason and evidence and Keating will give us $30,000? That is easily done. But then the first stated rule of his contest asserts a very different criterion:
1. I will award $30,000 of my own money to anyone that can prove, via the scientific method, that man-made global climate change is not occurring.
Ridiculous. There is hardly a skeptic alive who doesn’t think that human activity is causing some climate change, and in particular, some amount of warming. The question is whether one accepts the IPCC’s claim of extreme certainty that the human release of greenhouse gases is responsible for most late 20th century warming, and is on course to cause a dangerous amount of warming over the next century. Skeptics see this as unlikely, or as unsupported by the evidence, but it all comes down to the size of the human warming effect.
So Keating is putting forward two completely different criteria for gauging human influence on climate, one that pretty much all skeptics reject and one that pretty much all skeptics accept, and he is treating them as interchangeable. This raises an obvious suspicion.
When nobody can prove NO human-caused warming, will Keating claim vindication for the IPCC’s claim that MOST warming was human caused?
It would be a very crude switch, conflating two very different scientific positions, but we have been down this road several times already. Remember the bogus “consensus” study by Doran and Zimmerman that failed to distinguish skeptic from consensoid views, thereby lumping skeptics into their proclaimed “consensus”? According to their press release:
Two questions were key: have mean global temperatures risen compared to pre-1800s levels, and has human activity been a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures.
About 90 percent of the scientists agreed with the first question and 82 percent the second.
Wait, one in ten scientists don’t think global temperatures have risen since 1800? That’s actually a pretty amazing lack of consensus, but on the role of human activity, there are very few on the skeptic side who would say that human effects are insignificant, thus their real finding is that 82 percent of scientists can be categorized as either skeptics or consensoids. They hadn’t distinguished the actual competing viewpoints at all, but they pretended they had, and declared the science settled:
…the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes.
Ditto for Cook et al. 2013. As documented by Legates, Soon, Briggs and Monckton, the Cook study’s own raters found that only 0.5% of the climate science abstracts they examined supported the IPCC “consensus” position that most recent warming was caused by human activity. To claim a 97% consensus they added this 0.5% figure together with the numbers of abstracts that support weaker claims of some human influence, positions that encompass virtually all skeptics. From Christopher Monckton:
In defiance of the evidence recorded in their own data file, they had then explicitly stated, both in their article and in a subsequent article, that 97.1% had endorsed the IPCC’s proposition.
Again and again the alarmists try to pull off this trick, fabricating a phony “consensus” on the IPCC position by falsely classifying those who reject the IPCC’s position as supportive of it, and the yawning slip between Keating’s cup and his lip seems to be an obvious set-up for more of the same, which must have put off many of the skeptics who came across Keating’s challenge. It certainly put me off.
I belatedly looked further only because these bait and switches have been turning into big propaganda battles and I figured it might be worth getting ahead of this one. That’s when I came across Keating’s clarification page, where he promises to fork over the money to anyone who can prove that the available scientific reason and evidence do not support the IPCC’s claim of extreme certainty that most recent warming human caused.
Okay, that changes things. If these are the terms then Keating deserves to be taken seriously, not in any expectation that he would ever pay up, but because he might be an honest man who has simply never been properly exposed to the skeptic side. Of course that would have been self-selected but he is now self-forcing himself to engage with skeptic views and if he really is an honest man the result could be interesting.
Keating’s “clarification” page
Numerous commenters complained to Keating that there was no way to win his challenge because he was demanding proof of a negative: that human activity has no effect on climate (a negative that no skeptic ever claimed). This is what spawned his clarification page, where he lists “two different ways” that skeptics can win, with “Option #1” being:
The basic tenets of AGW are these two IPCC conclusions:
It is extremely likely (95-100%) that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.
Climate sensitivity is likely in the range 1.5°C to 4.5°C and extremely unlikely (95-100%) less than 1°C.
So if someone was able to scientifically disprove these two extremely likely / unlikely statements, then that should suffice.
To “scientifically disprove” the IPCC claims of extreme certainty is to prove that they are not scientifically justified. It doesn’t mean proving that human activity did not cause most post 50’s warming. It just means proving that the available reason and evidence does not justify any high degree of certainty about the latest warming being mostly human-caused. “Proof” is generally not easy to come by in science but this one is easy, on multiple grounds.
So now we have a challenge worth answering, an opportunity to turn Keating’s publicity ploy into a positive episode for skeptic understanding. His clarification also means that his challenge needs to be taken seriously as a threat. Right on his clarification page, before anyone had seen it, Keating was already crowing how nobody could show that the IPCC’s radical attribution claims are rejected by science:
So, there you go. I set the challenge up to favor the deniers and have now even produced two separate ways they can win.
And, yet, THE DENIERS STILL CAN’T PRODUCE.
Oh yes we can. Keating is one of those “believers” who flings the “denier” label like plosive spittle, and having changed his contest rules to be able to more legitimately claim to that he is vindicating the IPCC’s most unscientific excesses he needs to be shadowed henceforth by an unrebuttable insistence that HE OWES US MONEY. Then he can raise the subject as much as he wants.
Keating’s contradictory statements about skeptic views prove that he’s never thought this through
How else could a physicist make the following contradictory statements about skeptic views, issued almost in sequence on his “clarification” page? First he is stunned by all the people trying to let him know that skeptics generally do agree that human release of greenhouse gases does cause warming:
Some have even gone so far as to claim that no one has ever denied that man made global warming is not real. I swear, I didn’t make that last statement up. This is such a brazen lie that I wonder if the people saying this have lost touch with reality. Seriously, I wonder if they have lost touch with the real world. One question to those people, if deniers have never said man made global warming is not real, then just what have you guys been saying all this time? There is a long record of your statements about how global warming is a fraud, etc. Once again, if you don’t like being held accountable for what you say, stop saying it.
No distinction between people causing some warming and people causing most warming, even though he is responding to people who are pressing him on this very point. It’s like the idea is so new to him that he can’t get his head around it. Then at the end of his “option 1” he includes this little admission, perhaps in response to his recent forced engagement with actual skeptic views:
That said, the climate debate has shifted a bit over the past decades I’ve following it into at least “skeptics” grudgingly accepting (1) that the planet is actually warming [that should be “was actually warming”] and (2) the physics behind sensitivity excluding feedbacks being 1.1°C.
On the CO2 forcing effect it isn’t the debate that has shifted, only Keating’s awareness of it, and he must have only learned very recently (not “over the decades”) about the broad agreement among skeptics and consensoids alike that a doubling of CO2 should cause a temperature forcing of about 1°C. How else could he have been flabbergasted just a few paragraphs above by the idea of skeptics who do not deny that human activity causes warming?
So we’re talking about a babe-in-arms here. This senior citizen baby is unaware that the actual debate is over the size of the feedback effect and whether it is positive or negative. He has certainly never thought through the implications of agreement on CO2 forcing. So what to do with our senior baby?
I’m going to give him two answers. A little later I will post a “taking Keating seriously part 2” that recounts a few of the prima facie ways that the IPCC’s radical attribution claims are highly unscientific, as pointed out by numerous people in recent years. Then early next week I will post part 3, detailing a train of specific unscientific and anti-scientific steps in the IPCC analysis that render it not just scientifically invalid but properly classify it as a hoax and a fraud.
I documented two years ago how the First Order Draft of AR5 was marred by systematic “omitted variable fraud.” That critique is past due for an update and Keating’s challenge is a good second bird to kill with the same stone.
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Edit – “Part 2 will follow”
“consensoids”
Yes +100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ;>)
Alec Rawls:
I do not know what you intend to include in your Parts 2 and 3 but I write to make a suggestion.
[The global temperature rise in the first half of the last century was very similar to the temperature rise in the second half of the last century. Everybody, including the IPCC, agrees that human emissions of greenhouse gases(GHGs) were not sufficient to cause the rise from 1900 to 1950. So, there is no reason to assert that the very similar rise from 1950 to 2000 was caused human GHG emissions. And the rise has been so small as to be indiscernible this century despite the human GHG emissions continuing to increase.]
The above paragraph fulfils the falsification criteria as defined in your above essay.
According to your essay Keeting says
And in your essay you say
The similarities of the periods 1900 to 1950 and 1950 to 2000 does not justify ANY certainty about the latest warming being mostly human-caused.
Richard
Alec Rawls:
I sincerely apologise.
The most important paragraph in my post should have said.
The global temperature rise in the first half of the last century was very similar to the temperature rise in the second half of the last century. Everybody, including the IPCC, agrees that human emissions of greenhouse gases(GHGs) were not sufficient to cause the rise from 1900 to 1950. So, there is no reason to assert that the very similar rise from 1950 to 2000 was caused human GHG emissions. And the rise has been so small as to be indiscernible this century despite the human GHG emissions continuing to increase.
Very sorry for the errors.
Richard
What do those percentages ( extremely unlikely (95-100%)) mean, anyway? Are we to assume some sort of canonical distribution of universes so that Bayesian equations can calculate P( observed warming | no human influence) or P( no observed warming | with human influence )? How do we collect statistics in that? Please don’t say “models.” Are we allowed to present historical and pre-historical similar warming without human cause as counterfactuals?
Well, admirable that you have the time and the patience with such a case.
In my view, he is just another religious fanatic asking to disprove his bible through science, he being the sole judge.
Are there any climate models that work with a climate sensitivity in the range of –
Climate sensitivity is likely in the range 1.5°C to 4.5°C and extremely unlikely (95-100%) less than 1°C.
– that model correctly current temperatures?
They are not able to model the current lack of warming.
Because the theory is right? Not even the lapse rate can be properly calculated with this theory.
The theory is wrong and cannot model the present or the past. To validate their failed theory they try to explain LIA through Genghis Khan, Younger Dryas through megafauna flatulences.
This is what their theory is.
This is the “theory” that he is trying to promote, insulting all who do not bow to his bible.
Claes Johnson has a nice series on the greenhouse effect and shows how much modelling and assumptions is in it:
http://claesjohnson.blogspot.co.at/search/label/greenhouse%20effect
Not to mention the sensitivity part and the very rudimentar and simple radiative model inside the atmosphere.
As did other endtime religions also CAGW religion will die slowly once the prophetized catastrophes do not happen… wondering what will the fanatics promote 10-15 years from now?
My bad on the timing of part 2. I originally said it would be posted immediately following but Anthony wants to give part 1 some time to soak (to use a phrase from “Deadliest Catch”). I have edited the post say that that part 2 will run “a little later.”
Part #2 is up above this post I put lorne50 says:
July 25, 2014 at 3:45 pm
because it doesn’t work and is on the site ;>(
I agree.
Never mind it is gone now mods what up ????
This is remarkable, I just posted the following on my second most daily viewed forum in response to a statement by the interviewer, and then I read this post that matches closely to what I wrote:
“The “Green House Effect” was mentioned in this video. Green House gases make the planet 30 C warmer than it otherwise would be. 95% of the “green house effect” is due to water vapor, a green house gas. When it comes to CO2 and its effect, the pre-industrial level of about 280 ppm is of course a natural effect, by which I mean the extra warming that quantity of CO2 causes has nothing to do with humans.
Charles, you took some math I understand in your college or university training, so you know what Logarithm means. CO2 has a logarithmic function to its warming effect. That is why in climate science the terms “doubling of CO2″ is used, to express this logarithmic function a little bit easier.
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPPC) says doubling CO2 causes about 1 C of warming, but feedbacks kick in to cause 3 C of warming. My nearly 5 years of research informs me that this feedback either doesn’t exist or is very low. My other problem with IPCC’s position that CO2 is the control knob on climate is that in the past there was CO2 levels of 7,000 ppm with global temperatures colder than they are today at 400 ppm.
I notice the day after I watched this video, the forecast for the high for [Seattle] was 67F or so.
My question to you Charles is, what year is Seattle going to have Santa Barbara climate?”
http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Ian-Hays-Building-a-MultiDictionary-Collection-for-NET
Any progress reports on the 911 Crescent?
So I decided to offer Keating a counter wager on his site. This is it.
I will award, to Christopher Keating, 30,000 dollars of my own money, if he can prove via the scientific method, that humming bird caused global climate change is not occurring. The deadline for submission of proof is July 31, 2014.
In my comment Searle is what I get when I misspell Seattle and auto correct kick in.
Making bets on Her whims ?
I shudder at the very thought of Christopher Keating teaching physics to anyone given his evident inability to grasp the scientific method. Even worse, it was probably in public schools.
James Schrumpf says:
July 25, 2014 at 2:53 pm
Trying to prove a negative is not science.
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That is generally true. In this case, however, it can be done. It can be shown that that the IPCC assertion that “most” (>50%) of temperature rise is unlikely due to human influence with 95% confidence. There is no total certainty in real science. We have degrees of confidence.
Not only have the screamers failed to reject the null hypothesis with 95% confidence, but yes, their models can be rejected with about 99% to 99.9% confidence. The “most” statement can be disproved with 95% confidence.
This won’t get any $30 000 off Keating, and frankly, I would be grieved if it did. That man is one of the most important scientists of the 20th century, his data are critical to real understanding of climate and physiology (both plant and animal) and he deserves every penny he ever made.
“When nobody can prove NO human-caused warming”?
I would say my submission to Christopher utterly disproved any warming from human emissions of radiative gases. (I can’t claim the same for land use issues)
Christopher Keating owes me $30,000 USD.
After much difficulty with his website, I did manage to get a submission posted, including links to the supporting empirical experiments.
The submission effectively disproved both AGW and the idea of a net radiative GHE by demonstrating that the surface temperature of the planet in absence of atmosphere would be far higher than the 255K used by climastrologists.
Christopher tried to debate, but ended up having to delete comments and censor to weasel his way out. I kept screen shots of everything including the replies he deleted. It was a great deal of fun. Christopher ended up shrieking that I was an “irrational troll” that needed to be “blacklisted”.
In the end Christopher couldn’t cope with simple, repeatable empirical experiments and fled to the “if it’s not peer reviewed and published in a known journal it’s not science” defence, which is no defence at all.
The little problem for Christopher is that even that weak argument was flawed. My selective surface experiments were actually replicating peer reviewed work for researchers from Texas A&M in 1965, and strangely, it turns out that my early 2011 experiment into incident LWIR and water ended up being published by others in an engineering journal.
I provided Christopher what he asked for, empirical disproof of AGW. He got what he asked for, plus the bonus destruction of the entire net radiative GHE hypothesis. While Christopher had thought to put a time limit on submissions, at the time he accepted my submission, he had not thought to put a time limit on payout…
Tick tock, Christopher, tick tock…;-)
We all know that while CO2 levels have risen, the globe’s temperature for 15-18 years has not.
What is there to discuss? We all know the current administration in DC lies like a rug. Do we need further proof? We all know that the UN’s purpose in this crusade is not to stop global warming, which is not proven, but to redistribute wealth, which is happening. How do we stop this madness?
pokerguy says:
July 25, 2014 at 3:11 pm
How about turning it around on them, and offer 30K to anyone who can prove, via the scientific method, that man-made global climate change will not be a net positive for the world.
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That sounds good, but millions or billions of dollars have already been won for that one. The NSF and other grantors have funded science for years with the idea that any imagination you can cook up on how this might harm a living thing will get you funding. Telling the whole truth.– that most of the effects will increase the life on Earth–will get your grants cut off.
Since my purpose in Life is to increase the Life of Earth, including my own family and all mankind, as well as wildlife, I HATE those liars.
“Mike McMillan on July 25, 2014 at 3:18 pm
The challenge will be to get him to cough up the money.”
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner!
BTW, I assume you’re all familiar with the James Randi Educational Foundation and the $1M prize? I have not much respect for the JREF (for reasons completely irrelevant to this blog, although Randi is an AGW skeptic, so I bow to that). However, the JREF properly understands the principle of the scientific method. They will award the $1M prize to anyone who CAN PROVE the existence of ESP, telepathy and such phenomena.
LLG,
I fear you may have this particular Christopher Keating confused with a real scientist.
He seemed unable to understand that science is a method, not dependant on institutions, journals or policy statements of committees.
His “challenge” was essentially a marketing exercise for his book on the horror of of the coming AGW doooooom. (yes, it even has the traditional dried cracked mud baking in searing heat on the cover…)
Debating him was a lot of fun though, and a clear reinforcement of the old saying –
“Never try to explain something to someone who’s income depends on them not understanding it.”
I am afraid you misunderstand. The good professor probably knows the scientific method just fine, but he is not doing science — he is doing propaganda. He wants to see the science brotherhood rule the nations. What he does not know is that the politicians and other control freaks are just using people like him to take control and then “useful idiots” like himself will be disposed of.
If this was all about science they would have fired Hansen after a few months and Mann would never have gotten that last degree. Idiots.
It is impossible to win this prize.
Whenever I sneeze I alter the climate, infinitesimal, but measurable. It is a tacit argument so he shall never be obliged to pay.
I alter earths climate just by existing.
I chuckle at all the hullabaloo about co2, when it is agriculture and irrigation that are the major culprits.
This place should not be named earth it should be named water.
“…prove, via the scientific method, that man-made global climate change is not occurring.”
— His money is safe. He’s asking skeptics to prove a universal negative that’s not even true.