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An entertaining row has emerged over the behavior of the director of Greenpeace International Program, Pascal Husting, and the Greenpeace International Executive Director, Kumi Naidoo. It seems they are both are in hot water over airplanes and the troops are sending angry letters, like the one I have below.
Husting was criticized for living in Luxemburg and travelling to his Greenpeace office in Amsterdam by the dreaded evil airplane, like the one above that is causing a “climate emergency”. Even the Guardian took Greenpeace to task for it.
The “row” that is now emerging is about the official response to this criticism, as seen in this newspaper The Netherlands Times. It seems Greenpeace members want both of them to resign now, because there was some sort of under the table agreement between the two on the air travel thingy, going against what the troops say they stand for.
An excerpt from the article:
Greenpeace staff want director dismissed
More than 40 staff members and campaign leaders from Greenpeace Netherlands are still demanding that international program director Pascal Husting be dismissed.
The staff members penned a letter to Greenpeace director Kumi Naidoo and Husting, writing that Naidoo should “considerate his position”, adding that the damage they have caused to the environmental organization can only be remedied by their departure, the paper writes.
The letter was not published, but spread amongst employees and signed by almost all important campaign leaders and staff members.
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According to the paper, Husting’s commute to Amsterdam two times a month was his own choice, as a measure to keep his family happy as he did not want to move to Amsterdam due to the disruption to his young children’s lives. Being more environmentally friendly and taking the train to Amsterdam and back is also not an option for Husting, as that would take 12 hours. Husting’s salary has also come into the spotlight. At €6075 per month, the staff members argue that “that amount is multiple times the average income and a lot of money for most of our supporters.:”
The staff explain that there is no chance Greenpeace could recover from this scandal unless Naidoo and Husting are dismissed, as keeping them on would undermine the credibility of the environmental organization. “It will come back every time as soon as we criticize politicians or organizations. Like is actually happening now already. If Greenpeace can’t do it right, who can?”, they tell the Volkskrant.
Well, it is published now.
Dear Pascal, Dear Kumi,
In this letter we would like to express the deep concern that a great number of GPNL staff have regarding the reaction of you both on the issue of you Pascal, commuting to the Greenpeace International office in Amsterdam by plane. We are gravely disappointed by the role you both played in this matter.
Furthermore, we feel that you are not dealing with this disaster in a pro‐active manner and to the benefit of the whole organization. The lack of an appropriate external response is seriously undermining the campaign, mobilization and fundraising work our organization is doing. We find it shocking that our International Programme Director has been commuting by plane and that there was an agreement made between you both about it, even though this goes against the official Greenpeace code of conduct.
In your positions you should have the moral compass to know this crosses the line of what is acceptable, and you should also have the understanding that this would create a scandal if discovered by the media. As we know, the scandal was discovered by the media. Following that, the reaction you both gave in the media made matters worse. Kumi you used argumentation in the media about the difficult situation Pascal is in. This should never be a defense and in public opinion this will obviously not be accepted as an excuse, as campaigners, press and comms officers know from experience. It is exactly the kind of argumentation that governments and companies use when we ask them to do more to save our planet. And that line of reasoning is something we do not accept.
In an interview with the Dutch Press Agency (ANP) Pascal you explicitly drew the conclusion that Greenpeace cannot always live up to its own standards2. By saying that, you project your own misbehavior onto the whole Greenpeace organization. It is a remark that is extremely damaging for Greenpeace campaigns and a slap in the face to all the employees that do follow the code of conduct. You decided to further state in the Dutch media that you do not have a luxurious lifestyle because you earn a mere 6.075 euro per month and do not like airports or flying. You compared your income to what can be earned in industry, as to convince the audience of the modest salary you receive. Obviously, 6.075 euros a month is multiple times the average income and therefore a huge amount for the majority of our supporters.
Thus, this statement only made things worse. It is disrespectful to our fundraising staff, who work very hard to increase our fundraising results and then see hundreds of supporters leave us in one week because of the behavior of our IPD. It is also an insult to our supporter services staff, who have to deal with hundreds of angry phone calls, and to our social media team who had to react on many angry tweets and posts. And most importantly it is offending our volunteers who give us their time and energy and are confronted on the streets and festivals with questions about the flying behavior of our IPD.
Pascal you also stated that nobody within the organization had ever raised this issue before, which we understand is not true. Besides this, that statement implied that everybody within Greenpeace agrees with this behavior, making it seem a mistake of Greenpeace as a whole. We find this unforgivable. Of course everybody makes mistakes and there should be room for making mistakes within Greenpeace. However, this is more than a mistake. It was discussed, thought through and went on for two years. But it was only after the story broke to the media that you acknowledged it as a mistake. Apart from the ethical boundaries that have been crossed, the media statements that you gave Pascal completely disqualify you as a programme director.
The whole flying scandal undermines the motivation of many dedicated people that work for GPNL. It is an affront to all the hard‐working professionals within Greenpeace who are committed to the goals Greenpeace is trying to achieve and who are proud of our organization. We feel that the least you could do Pascal is apologize in writing, or preferably in person. While Kumi and Bunny took the time to come and talk to the Dutch staff, you did not even take the effort to write an email. Externally, this flying scandal seriously undermines our credibility as an organization. Every time we criticize politicians or companies, this story will come back, as we are already experiencing.
Campaigners are getting questioned by companies and politicians. If Greenpeace does not walk the talk, why should others do so? You do not seem to grasp how public opinion works and do not seem aware of the magnitude of the long term reputational damage that has been caused by commuting by plane and the chosen media response. It could have been, at least partly, repaired by presenting a quick and strong reaction showing what Greenpeace will do to prevent this from happening in the future. We understand that you are working on internal measures that will be communicated externally, but until now this response is lacking, and hence solidifying the damage to our organization.
By not reacting appropriately, you display a lack of understanding of integrity and reputational management. Pascal if you keep your position while externally no measures of improving our own behavioral standards are communicated, we cannot repair our loss of credibility. We will surely lose effectiveness in our campaign work. Therefore, we urge you to take measures that improve our behavioral standards very soon and we urge Pascal to leave the organization and take public responsibility for the mistakes that have been made, including the given media statements.
Kumi your position has been severely damaged as far as we are concerned, among many in our office your integrity is debated. We urge you to reflect on this. We are willing to further express our concerns in a conversation.
Best wishes,
Kim Schoppink ‐ Gerda Horneman ‐ Berit Soolsma ‐ Pelle Berting ‐ Caco Verhees – Rebecca van Scheijndel ‐ Christien de Jong ‐ Maarten Slagter ‐ Jorien de Lege ‐ Anne Boon – Femke Nagel ‐ Leon Varitimos ‐ Milo Laureij ‐ Michiel van Geelen ‐ Willem Wiskerke ‐ Tom Grijssen ‐ Danielle van Oijen ‐ Anne Nasveld ‐ Frederieke Velk ‐ Nora van der Hoeven ‐ Sanne van Keulen ‐ Hilde Stroot ‐ Faiza Oulahsen ‐ Joris Wijnhoven ‐ Bart van Opzeeland ‐ Sandra van den Brink ‐ Jeroen van Heijningen ‐ Ellis Hageman ‐ Michiel de Brieder ‐ Heleen Blesgraaf ‐ Tellu Lausas ‐ Gabrielle van der Ham ‐ Roy de Hair ‐ Marleen Zwartkruis ‐ Yuri Gunther Moore ‐ Simone Langley ‐ Joost Hostman ‐ Madeleine van Wensen ‐ Carin Bazuin – Frits Meuleveld ‐ Paul Baars – Marjolein Buissen – Pavel Klinckhamers
Source:
http://static3.volkskrant.nl/static/asset/2014/brief_43_stafleden_Greenpeace_Nederland_5721.pdf
Over 6000 euros a month, plus cost for air travel, plus no apparent purchases of carbon credits to offset their evilness.
Gosh, this seems like the sort of thing that evil capitalist executives or trough feeding government pork-barrelers might do.
If anyone thinks that Greenpeace isn’t just like any other large organization, complete with moral turpitude, sloth and excess, and behind the scenes dealings to prevent the workers from knowing what is really going on, now is the time for eye-opening.
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The pigs needed all the milk in animal farm to ensure their brains were working properly.
Perhaps give him a sincere award for Father of the Year for putting his family above all else. He could hardly protest – how could he explain that to his family? Perhaps a lightbulb would come on that that’s all any if us are really trying to do. Then suggest he could more than make up his lost salary by writing a tell-all book about GP.
If you think about it, GP has a lot more to lose than he does.
I bet the tax rate in Luxembourg is much less than in Holland. Which might be real reason for this scam.
I bet none of these “fellows” has any idea that on a typical day there are some ~90,000 flights that take off and land transporting thousands of people around the world.
I’m sure many of the rank and file GPers have pure motives in their desire to do what they think is good.
Maybe many of them will now take the next step.
“These guys told me I should do ‘this’ to prevent ‘that’…. But they don’t do ‘this’…. Maybe what they told me is ‘scat’?”
I looked at a variety of schedule combinations for trains between Luxembourg and Amsterdam.
All are between 5:22 and 6:15 in length of travel
the Greenpeace “12 hours” nonsense is fatuous dishonest disinformation
ok, the Greenie prefers to fly
given the politics of his career and employer, he can’t admit the simple facts
Kevin King says:
July 23, 2014 at 11:33 am
f****** luddites.
Concur.
Mac
Duster says:
July 23, 2014 at 4:05 pm
RACookPE1978 says:
July 23, 2014 at 12:04 pm
Clipper ship.
Wooden clipper ship.
Wooden clipper ship with no engine or steam winches.
1850′s wooden clipper ship with no refrigerator, showers, toilets, or laundry.
1850′s wooden clipper ship with all-natural sails and 100% natural fibre ropes (that rot) and no winches or iron anchors or iron cleats or halyards or pulleys or lights or motors or lifeboat engines or radios or tar and grease to pollute the water.
And no icky iron harpoons or fishhooks or cooking oils or spatulas and pots and pans and tanks and ballast and nails and bolts and nuts and masts …….
Why wish him on an innocent clipper ship? They were awesome vessels and many ship hulls stull owe a great deal to the clipper hull. Besides, being very high tech for the time, that would probably not go well with GP views.
The Flying Cloud was launched in 1851. Designed by Donald McKay, it would be an 1850s clipper ship. It held a record for the fastest New York to San Francisco run around Cape Horn (89 days plus some hours) that stood for more than a century. Since the roaring 40′s blow west to east, the trip from NY to SF tends to be slower than vice versa since it requires some close hauled tacking against the wind. The Northern Light, another clipper, still holds the record of 79 days from San Francisco to Boston around the horn.
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Slow mate slow.
The Lightning did London to Melbourne in 78 days and returned to London in 63 days.
http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Maritime_History/Passages/USNM-3%281855%29_p291.html
I’m with Jimmy Finley @ur momisugly 4:35 above. Many cases of verbosity involve thinking of different ways to say the same thing. These people thought of the same way to say the same thing, over and over.
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skiphil says:
July 23, 2014 at 9:16 pm
I looked at a variety of schedule combinations for trains between Luxembourg and Amsterdam.
All are between 5:22 and 6:15 in length of travel
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It’s not just that. How much of his precious time might this sparkling emerald of professional begging devote to his unique company whilst traveling by train? A lot more than by air! But, on the other hand, the more time he spends doing nothing, the better for the rest of the world…
Breaking News: Stray mongrel driven to distress by chronic flee infestation barks constantly at nothing.
Greenpeace members should follow the example of their wise leader. The airline will fly to Amsterdam with or without their leader. Pascal’s body mass is negligible compared to the weight of the jumbo jet. Maybe the staffs think he is flying a single-seater jet. Or maybe they think he weighs 10,000 lbs.
Jimbo says:
July 23, 2014 at 4:24 pm
“If Greenpeace stopped using anything powered, derived or delivered from fossil fuels this year they would cease to exist next year.”
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Dear Jimbo,
You know as well as others that conservation was never the long term goal, but to fulfill the de-industrialization of Gaia via the leftist environmentalist agenda as was also explicitly laid out by Ted Kaczynski (for most of the same reasons).
The amusing thing is not that there’s anything implicitly wrong with jet travel, which there isn’t. As that’s just the presumption wanted green-washed everyone to group-think, and as you see above many constructed their remarks in those terms.
No, the more amusing thing is to watch them tie themselves in knots with their own propaganda then rip themselves in the attempt to deny their own incapacity to span the gulf between their bullsh*t and their now problematic reality. And the intransigent persistent factor in this whole artificial ‘problem’ is solely their own unrecantable nonsense.
But this can easily (if temporarily) be resolved, if they installed a green ‘Pope’ as sort of vicar of Gaia who sells indulgences to the ‘Saints’ in good standing, or else excommunicate anyone flying without a pre-paid indulgence credit. This can of course be extended to cover a multitude of other self-imposed sins, and may be thought of as a more enlightened form of carbon-credits. Thus peace would reign in Heaven and Earth once more.
Release the Cherubs!
What I find interesting is that the complaints Greenpeace Staff have levelled at their Director could just as easily be made against Greenpeace Staff by the 3rd world. Sidebet that they are completely clueless re their hypocrisy.
Also of interest is the fact that Greenpeace has at least 40 paid employees in Amsterdam (in fact, they are a minority, the actual number is more like 100 or over). Now, let’s assume that they on average on a salary of E25K, a relatively modest amount if you have to survive in Amsterdam. That would give an annual salary bill of at least a million Euro, probably a multiple of that.
Now have a look at the Greenpeace annual financial report and try to find the post “salaries”. It ain’t there. Nothing in those reports about how many people make their living out of activism and by how much. Nichts, nada, zilch. The only thing you can find (in e.g. the 2011 report for Greenpeace worldwide) is this:
Total income Greenpeace 2011 (annual report, page 47)
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Total global income : 241.114 MEuro
Expenditure Climate Change Activism : 28.747 ME
Organisational support : 37.257 ME
I surmise that the last two posts actually include the salaries. It is really quite scandalous that a multinational like Greenpeace can get away with such obfuscation.
Currently up on Drudge, another glimpse into the minds of the eco-Nazis …
130 Environmental Groups Call For An End To Capitalism
No surprise to anyone with a brain. They have been at this since the beginning, but now they feel free to come out of the closet.
BTW, I wonder what Mosher would think if any of his ‘work’ ends up on their propaganda slideshows used to fleece the suckers in the west. We know people like Mann would be overjoyed to find the same.
” he did not want to move to Amsterdam due to the disruption to his young children’s lives”
Meanwhile the policies his hypocritical ilk would implement if given half a chance, would disrupt lives worldwide. What a maroon.
John West says:
July 23, 2014 at 2:03 pm
Why should they care about whether their code of conduct is followed or not? It’s not like they’re known for internal consistency of positions. For example, they claim to be pro-science when it comes to climate yet they go full anti-science inquisitor when it comes to genetics.
“Together let’s stop our corn from being contaminated by genetic engineering”
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/getinvolved/no-GMO-maize-sowings/
Oh the tragedy that Greenpeace wasn’t around 9,000 years ago in Mexico to stop those first geneticists from genetically engineering teosinte via selective breeding into corn.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/science/25creature.html?_r=0
Obviously, they are scientifically illiterate.
If you believe Greenpeace cares about climate change because of the science, then I have a bridge I’d like to sell you (cheap).
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dont use that crap line re natural plant crossing being the same as the GMO splicing for pesticide and herbicide or any of the other traits INSERTED into a gene, Thats the Monmen and their shills best line for the gullibles.
a STABLE natural variant will breed true
nothing the GM mobs have fiddled does and even they were supposed?? to be surprised when the genes they said were in some of their strains were found to be rather different than stated,
when examined over in europe.
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do I like greenpees? No since they went to warmist agenda its made all their other efforts farcical.
Blade:
Environmental activists met in the oil producing, socialist country of Venezuela as part of a United Nations-backed event to increase civil engagement in the lead up to a major climate conference. But environmentalists surprised U.N. officials by offering up a declaration that not only seeks to end capitalism, but one that also opposes U.N.-backed efforts to fight global warming …
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Presumably everyone looked at them, blinked, squinted, blinked again then burst out laughing? Forty years of cold war and some enlightened geniuses and former psych-ward escapees show up at the UN General Assembly demanding total global surrender, to their list of bed-wetting backed demands that amount to disbanding civilization? …
“Would you like fries with that?”
Unmentionable says:
July 24, 2014 at 1:07 am
“The amusing thing is not that there’s anything implicitly wrong with jet travel, which there isn’t. As that’s just the presumption wanted green-washed everyone to group-think, and as you see above many constructed their remarks in those terms.”
Quite so, but it is the casual way in which unproven emotive sentiments have become part of everyday conversation without any scrutiny, such as; “flying is 10 times worse than taking the train. It’s responsible for 13 per cent of the UK’s impact on the climate ”
This statement is even worse: “We’re working to put an end a completely reckless response to climate change and drag the aviation industry into the 21st Century.”
The 21st Century to a large extent can be epitomised by aerospace and all its advances and I do not want Greenpeace to take any credit for advances in efficiency or technology because doing more with less is a mindset that is embedded in this industry and has been from the very first flights.
Anyway, I enjoyed your description of all this especially: ‘Release the Cherubs!”
Unmentionable says:
July 24, 2014 at 1:07 am
……But this can easily (if temporarily) be resolved, if they installed a green ‘Pope’ as sort of vicar of Gaia who sells indulgences to the ‘Saints’ in good standing, or else excommunicate anyone flying without a pre-paid indulgence credit. This can of course be extended to cover a multitude of other self-imposed sins, and may be thought of as a more enlightened form of carbon-credits. Thus peace would reign in Heaven and Earth once more.
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But then they might get their act together. Better they remain a protest movement.
Standard Issue GreenPiece Moral Compass.
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Ian W at 9:51 am said:
“…Aircraft also do not need any ground infrastructure between departure and destination”
Wrong Sir. There is a very extensive air traffic control ground infrastructure without which flying would be impracticable, if not impossible. Sure, no roads or rails but ground infrastructure nonetheless.
Dear Rebecca et al:
Come on, people, don’t you see?! That plane would be flying from Luxembourg to Amsterdam, whether I was on it or not, and the fuel savings resulting from the absence of my 200 pound weight would be negligible. If I drove a car to Amsterdam and back, THAT fuel usage would be real, since it would not occur if I did not drive. So, as long as that plane is flying anyway, it’s actually more green to ride on the plane than to drive. What we, as Greenpeace, need to do is convince all the OTHER people fllying from Luxembourg to Amsterdam that their flying is causing dangerous climate disruption, so fewer and fewer people will be on that flight, and the airline cancels it due to lack of passengers. THEN I can start driving to work, knowing that my efforts have caused that plane to stop flying, and therefore my fuel usage in the car will be justified.
As for the train option, it’s true that the train would be going from Luxembourg to Amsterdam whether I was on it or not, so it would seem that my logic above for flying would apply equally to riding the train. However, by the time you factor in arriving at the airport early, waiting for baggage pickup, etc., the train ride takes, on average, 3 minutes, 37 seconds longer than the flight. That’s 3 minutes, 37 seconds that I could be guilting others into not flying on that evil airplane.
Moreover, you are missing the big picture here. Whatever we can do to solve the climate crisis will be WASTED if it is not carried over to the next generation. If we do not teach our CHILDREN to respect the climate and care about the planet, then we will never solve the problem. If I were to pack my family up and move to Amsterdam, just to avoid having to take this flight, then my children would be angry with me for disrupting their lives and separating them from their friends. And as they grew into adulthood, their resentment toward me would transform into a rejection of my ideals, and they would become the very carbon polluters that we, Greenpeace, object to. And so, by taking the plane, I am ensuring that my children grow to accept my environmental morality out of their love for me.
Best wishes,
Pascal
Have to disagree, Pascal. If I were the child, I would be angry, but grow up to respect the commitment my parents made to the environment, and follow in their footsteps. Afterall, moving woukd be a hardship on them as well. Otherwise, when I grew up I would realize how hypocritical my father had been, and the lesson would be that the environmental movement was a farce.