UK's only climate skeptic party crushingly wins the EU election

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UPDATE: A cartoon from Josh drawn about a year ago has been added. See below.

By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley

The United Kingdom Independence Party, the only climate-skeptical party in Britain, has scored a crushing victory in Sunday’s elections to the Duma of the European Union.

Britain’s most true-believing party, the Greens, won one or two new seats, but the second most true-believing party and junior partner in the Children’s Coalition that currently governs at Westminster, the “Liberal” “Democrats” (who are neither), were all but wiped off the map.

The European Duma, like that of Tsar Nicholas II in Russia, has no real power. It cannot even bring forward a Bill, for that vital probouleutic function is the sole right of the unelected Kommissars – the official German name for the tiny, secretive clique of cuisses-de-cuir who wield all real power in the EU behind closed doors.

The Kommissars also – bizarrely – have the power to set aside votes of the elected Duma, which doesn’t even get to vote in the first place without their permission. Democratic it isn’t.

The outgoing Hauptkommissar, Manuel Barroso, is a Maoist – and, like nearly all of the Kommissars, a naïve true-believer in the hard-Left climate-extremist Party Line that is turning Europe into a bankrupt, unconsidered economic backwater.

In the Duma recently (where the Kommissars, though unelected, may sit and speak but not vote), Barroso said there was a “99% consensus” among scientists about the climate. Actually 0.5%, Manuel, baby: read Legates et al., 2013.

Because the Duma is a parliament of eunuchs, UKIP’s couple of dozen members of the European Parliament won’t be able to make very much difference to anything except their bank balances – they all become instant multi-millionaires.

However, after opposition to the EU’s militantly anti-democratic structure and to the mass immigration that has been forced upon Britain as a direct result, UKIP’s third most popular policy with the voters is its opposition to the official EU global-warming story-line.

It was I, as deputy leader of the party in 2009/10, who had the honor of introducing UKIP’s climate policy to the Press. Their reports, as usual, were sneeringly contemptuous. Now the sneers are beginning to falter.

The leadership thought long and hard before adopting the policy. I said we could not lose by adopting a policy that had the twin merits of being true and being otherwise unrepresented in British politics. Private polling confirmed this, so the policy was adopted.

For interest, here – in full – is UKIP’s climate policy as I promulgated it in 2010:

“Global warming: is it just a scam?

“The IPCC’s 1990 First Assessment Report made wildly-exaggerated projections of how global temperature would rise. Yet for the past 15 years [now nigh on 18 years] there has been no statistically-significant “global warming” at all, as a leading IPCC scientist has now admitted. For nine years there has been a rapid cooling trend. None of the IPCC’s computer models predicted that.

“The 1995 Second Assessment Report, in the scientists’ final draft, said five times there was no discernible human influence on climate. Yet one man rewrote the report, replacing all five statements with a single statement saying precisely the opposite. He later said IPCC processes permitted this single-handed rewrite, which has been the official policy ever since.

“The 2001 Third Assessment Report contained a graph contradicting the First Report by falsely abolishing the medieval warm period, which, like the Roman, Minoan, and Holocene optima, and 7500 of the past 11,400 years, and each of the four previous interglacial warm periods, and most of the past 600 million years, was warmer than today. Some 800 scientists from more than 460 institutions in 42 countries over 25 years have written peer-reviewed, learned papers providing evidence that the Middle Ages were warmer than today.

“The 2007 Fourth Assessment Report’s key conclusion that, with 90% confidence, most of the warming since 1950 was manmade is disproven by measurements. A natural decline in global cloud cover from 1983-2001 (Pinker et al., 2005) caused most of that warming.

“The IPCC’s false “90% confidence” estimate was not reached by scientists: it was decided by a show of hands among political representatives who had few scientific qualifications.

“A lead author of the Fourth Assessment Report admits that, “to influence governments”, he knowingly inserted a falsehood to the effect that the Himalayas will be ice-free in 25 years.

“Many other false conclusions of the IPCC were authored not by scientists but by campaigning journalists, members of environmental propaganda groups or IPCC bureaucrats.

“The first table of figures in the IPCC’s 2007 Report did not add up. Bureaucrats had inserted it, overstating tenfold 40 years’ contributions of Greenland and Antarctic ice to sea-level rise.

“The IPCC’s conclusion that CO2 has a major warming effect is false. In the pre-Cambrian era 750 million years ago the Earth was an ice-planet, with glaciers at sea level at the Equator: yet atmospheric CO2 concentration was 300,000 ppmv – 700 times today’s 388 ppmv. If CO2 had the large warming effect the IPCC imagines, the glaciers could not have been there.

“In the Cambrian era 550 million years ago, CO2 concentration was 7000 ppmv (IPCC, 2001): yet that was when the first calcite corals achieved algal symbiosis. In the Jurassic era 175 million years ago, CO2 concentration was 6000 ppmv (IPCC, 2001): yet that was when the first aragonite corals came into existence. While the oceans continue to run over rocks, they must remain pronouncedly alkaline. Ocean “acidification” is a chemical impossibility.

“Many peer-reviewed papers (e.g. Douglass et al., 2004, 2008, 2009; Schwartz, 2007; Monckton, 2008; Lindzen & Choi, 2009) show that the IPCC has exaggerated the warming effect of greenhouse gases up to 7-fold. Without that exaggeration, there is no climate crisis.

“The economics of global warming

“Millions have died of starvation, or are menaced by it, because the world’s governments have unwisely trusted the UN’s climate panel (the IPCC) and the self-serving national scientific institutions that have profiteered by parroting its now-discredited findings.

“The World Bank has reported that three-quarters of the doubling of world food prices that occurred two years ago is directly attributable to the global dash for biofuels.

“Herr Ziegler, the UN’s Right-to-Food Rapporteur, has said that while millions are starving the diversion of farmland from food to biofuels is “a crime against humanity”.

“Lord Stern’s discredited report on climate economics unrealistically adopted a near-zero discount rate for appraisal of “investment” in carbon-dioxide mitigation and doubled the IPCC’s already-exaggerated high-end estimate of the warming to be expected from CO2. Without these grave economic and scientific errors, no case for spending any taxpayers’ money on mitigation of CO2 emissions can be made.

“A carbon-trading scheme that sets a low price for the right to emit a ton of carbon dioxide is merely a tax and does not affect the climate, while a high price drives our jobs and industries overseas to countries which emit more CO2 than us, raising mankind’s global CO2 footprint. The chief profiteers from carbon trading are banks.

“A steelworks at Redcar is closing with the loss of 1700 jobs, because the European carbon-trading scheme has made it uneconomic. Precisely the same steelworks will be re-erected in India. Net effect on the climate: nil. Net effect on British workers’ jobs: catastrophic.

“If we were to shut down the entire global carbon economy altogether, and go back to the Stone Age but without even the right to light a carbon-emitting fire in our caves, it would take 41 years to forestall just 1 C° of “global warming”. The cost is disproportionate.

“Even if the IPCC were right in imagining that a doubling of CO2 concentration will cause as much as 3.26 ± 0.69 C° of “global warming”, adaptation as and if necessary would be orders of magnitude cheaper and more cost-effective than attempting to limit CO2 emissions.

“Global warming gurus humbled

“Dr. Rajendra Pachauri, who chairs IPCC’s climate science panel, is a railroad engineer. The Charity Commission is investigating TERI-Europe, a charity of which Pachauri and his predecessor as IPCC science chairman were trustees. The charity filed false accounts three years running, under-declaring its income by many hundreds of thousands of pounds.

“Dr. “Phil” Jones, director of the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, on which the IPCC has relied for its global temperature record, has stepped down after a whistleblower published emails between him and other leading IPCC scientists revealing manipulation, concealment and intended destruction of scientific results.

“Dr. Jones has admitted that his Unit has lost much of the data on which the IPCC relies. The “Climategate” files show his Unit received millions in increased taxpayer funding so that it could investigate “global warming”.

“Al Gore has made hundreds of millions from “global warming”, and may become the first climate-change billionaire. In 2007 a High Court judge found nine errors in his film serious enough to require 77 pages of corrective guidance to be sent to every school in England.

“On Gore’s notion that sea level would imminently rise by 20 feet (6.1 m), the judge ruled: “The Armageddon scenario that he depicts is not based on any scientific view.” IPCC (2007) projects sea-level rise of 1-2 ft by 2100: Mörner (2004, 2010) projects just 4 ± 4 in.

“Gore said a scientific study had found polar bears dying as they swam to find ice. In fact, Monnett & Gleason (2006) had reported just four bears killed in a bad storm. For 30 years there has been no decline in sea-ice in the Beaufort Sea, where the bears died. There are many times more polar bears today than in 1940.

“Gore said Mount Kilimanjaro’s glacier had lost much of its ice because of “global warming”. In fact, the cause was desiccation of the atmosphere caused by regional cooling (Molg et al., 2003). Mean summit temperature has averaged –7 °C for 30 years and, in that time, summit temperature has never risen above –1.6 °C. The Fürtwängler glacier at the summit began receding in the 1880s, long before mankind could have had any influence over the climate. Half the glacier had gone before Hemingway wrote The Snows of Kilimanjaro in 1936.

“What is to be done

“Royal Commission on global warming science and economics

“UKIP would appoint a Royal Commission on global warming science and economics, under a High Court Judge, with advocates on either side of the case, to examine and cross-examine the science and economics of global warming with all the evidential rigour of a court of law.

“The remit of the Royal Commission would be to decide –

Ø “Whether and to what degree the IPCC has exaggerated climate sensitivity to CO2 or other greenhouse gases;

Ø “Whether and under what conditions, if any, the IPCC’s imagined consequences of the present rate of atmospheric CO2 enrichment will be beneficial or harmful;

Ø “Whether and under what conditions, if any, mitigation of global warming by reducing carbon emissions will be cheaper and more cost-effective than adaptation as, and if, necessary;

Ø “Whether and under what conditions any emissions-trading scheme can make any appreciable difference to the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere, and whether and to what degree, if any, any such difference would affect global surface temperature.

“Other climate-change measures

“Pending the report of the Royal Commission, UKIP would immediately –

Ø “Repeal the Climate Change Act, and close the Climate Change Department;

Ø “Halt all UK contributions to the IPCC and to the UN Framework Convention;

Ø “Halt all UK contributions to any EU climate-change policy, including carbon trading;

Ø “Freeze all grant aid for scientific research into “global warming”.

“In any event, UKIP would immediately –

Ø “Commission enough fossil-fuelled and nuclear power stations to meet demand;

Ø “Cease to subsidize wind-farms, on environmental and economic grounds;

Ø “Cease to subsidize any environmental or “global-warming” pressure-groups;

Ø “Forbid public authorities to make any “global-warming”-related expenditure;

Ø “Relate Met Office funding to the accuracy of its forecasts;

Ø “Ban global warming propaganda, such as Gore’s movie, in schools;

Ø “Divert a proportion of the billions now wasted on the non-problem of global warming towards solving the world’s real environmental problems.

“UKIP has been calling for a rational, balanced approach to the climate debate since 2008, when extensive manipulation of scientific data first became clear. There must be an immediate halt to needless expenditure on the basis of a now-disproven hypothesis.

“Given our unprecedented national debt crisis, not a penny must be wasted, not a single job lost to satisfy vociferous but misguided campaigners, often led by ill-informed media celebrities, profiteering big businesses, insurance interests and banks. The correct policy approach to the non-problem of global warming is to have the courage to do nothing.”

If you know of any political party, anywhere, that has a climate policy more vigorously and healthily skeptical than UKIP, let me know in comments.

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pat
May 27, 2014 5:04 am

btw Greens did poorly in Czech Republic. had to post this excerpt from the following site, as the Radio Prague page seems to be broken:
iNetPost: Green Party leader may step down over poor showing in European elections
Radio Prague: The head of the Green Party Ondřej Liška is considering resigning as party leader in the wake of the party’s poor showing in the European elections. The party received 3.7 percent of the vote, failing to cross the five percent margin needed to win seats…
http://www.inetpost.mobi/tags/green-party/article/201405260929d4.green-party-leader-may-step-poor

Mick
May 27, 2014 5:08 am

Just remember what Linus Van Pelt says, “never discuss religion, politics and the Great Pumpkin”
….the first two have recently caused much debate and division here on this blog. This leaves the Great Pumpkin. I look forward to watching the heated discussion!

Non Nomen
May 27, 2014 5:20 am

Lord Monckton
No need to apologize. You just rubbed it in to the cousins across the sea that there is a politcal party in the UK that has an attitude of scepticism towards the climate matter. And it is pretty nice to show the world that there is more in the UKIP basket than merely EU matters and controlled immigration. It hope it widened the horizon of some readers. Enjoy your beehives!

May 27, 2014 6:11 am

In response to Mick, in most Officers’ Messes in the grander British regiments there were four taboo subjects for conversation: politics, women, religion, and railways. The reason was not that these subjects might cause controversy, but that they were calculated to cause boredom.

Gareth Phillips
May 27, 2014 6:48 am

Interesting response there in defence of UKIP and it’s policies. If Monckton is claiming that the 2010 manifesto has not been repudiated, merely revised, can we take then as proof that Nigel Mirage was lying through his teeth to the UK voting public when he stated In a phone-in on a radio station,as well as other occasions that he had already acknowledged that much of the 2010 manifesto was “nonsense” and UKIP had gone back to a “blank sheet of paper” in terms of its preparations for the next election in 2015. Is the truth that in reality the manifesto had not been binned, trashed or whatever phrase was in vogue with regard to the policy document and the voters were misled? By the way, another UKIP politician has fallen by the wayside after including in his manifesto an idea that all disabled children should be compulsorily aborted to save on caring bills. Happily he has been disowned, but as the latest in a long line of UKIP crazies one does start to wonder about the rest of the crew.

milodonharlani
May 27, 2014 7:12 am

Goethe said America has it better than Europe, but that was then.
The role of the EU in Europe, ie an unaccountable, distant, self-aggrandizing, power-grabbing, overweening tyranny via bureaucracy, is played in the US by the federal government. It may prove easier for the UK to secede from the EU than it would be for Texas, say, once again to try to leave the Union it first joined in 1845.

Avi ben Barzel
May 27, 2014 7:35 am

Congrats, Lord M! Just-Call-Me-Dave got his warning ‘fer sure, and forsooth the Warmies are beginning to see some losses, what? Aussie-land’s down, Canada slinking away (whilst smiling and crooning platitudes to the Messiah to the south) and now Albion’s eying the exit sign. Wise man say, expect turbulent and messy “climate change” from the mandarins before all’s better, so best to keep those hatches secured, methinks. And about time for you to guest-post on ++Cranmer too, M’Lord; wall-to-wall Kippers there who are perplexed over this subject and you’ll do a much better job explaining than I did two years ago. For certains there be plenty of trollery there…and your appearance will draw them like rats to a meat lorry, but expect this man and many others for to join in the fray and guard your flanks. All the best!

Avi ben Barzel
May 27, 2014 7:40 am

Am I dreaming? Me post just went up …plop!.. just like that, without the old moderation wait!!! Many thank yous in advance for an explanation.
[Ask not for whom the mods toil, lest they troll for thee. 8<) .mod]

Avi ben Barzel
May 27, 2014 8:00 am

Good summary there, pat (May 27, 2014 at 4:53 am). Africa is the looming battle-ground. After decimating its population with the DDT ban, hobbling its agricultural sector with a ban on GM crops, the Engineers now want to keep the starvation levels by blocking Africans from the stupendous quantities of energy right under their feet. Is it too extreme to call this a slow genocide-with-a-smile?

May 27, 2014 8:20 am

Pat quotes Richard:
If they are so unbelievably ignorant about climate change then it’s safe to assume they are equally ignorant about all their other policies. I assume that this chap can provide evidence to back up his opinion?
The ignorance is entirely on the side of ‘Richard’. “This chap” has no obligation to prove anything. The evidence must be provided by those promoting the AGW conjecture.
Unfortunately for ‘Richard’, there is no testable evidence for AGW. That is probably because the AGW effect is so tiny.
When people like ‘Richard’ cannot even understand how the Scientific Method works, ignorance abounds.
The comment by ‘Dave’ says: Your 31,000 scientists is approximately 0.3 per cent of the group they were drawn from.
Wrong, as are just about everyone reading the SkS nonsense. The OISM Petition was co-signed by more than 31,000 exclusively American scientists and engineers. All co-signers are professionals with degrees in the hard sciences, including more than 9,000 PhD’s.
The alarmist crowd has tried to come up with more co-signers on several competing petitions that explicitly blamed human activity for global warming. Every one of them failed to get anywhere close to the OISM numbers. Reality is that the alarmist clique is much smaller than scientific skeptics, who comprise the true ‘consensus’.
The numbers prove it. I challenge climate alarmists to get more than 31,000 people with degrees in the hard sciences to sign a statement that human activity is the primary cause of global warming — excuse me, global warming that happened in the past. Because for more than a decade now, global warming has stopped. Global warming is not being caused by anything now. There is no global warming.
So don’t hold your breath. Alarmists have too few True Believers in their clique to get anywhere near even 5,000 co-signers with degrees in the hard sciences.

Avi ben Barzel
May 27, 2014 8:26 am

LOL! Thanks, mod for the Explanation Cryptic. No more intrusive queries on this matter from this man here!

May 27, 2014 8:41 am

John A:
You persistently carp about “Monckton’s obvious errors”. Indeed, the first of your several posts in this thread was at May 26, 2014 at 1:28 am and it began by saying

What Christopher Monckton has written is pure sophistry and I can only describe it as deceptive.

Sorry, but your behaviour will not do; it is harmful and disruptive.
UKIP is the only significant UK Party which opposes the AGW-scare. Viscount Monckton is actively involved near the ‘top’ of UKIP, and he has described what he sees as being the performance in recent elections of UKIP. Information concerning progress to defeat the scare is useful whichever country the progress is achieved. And (as I said in an above post) UKIP’s electoral success provides UKIP with political influence over the major UK political Parties.
I do not like UKIP. The only policy they have which I could support is their policy on AGW, but so what? There is nothing to gain by a Party-political fight on WUWT, but there is much to lose by distracting the report on UKIP from Lord Monckton by requiring him to defend UKIP.
Your abuse disrupts the thread by requiring a response which is not useful. If you think Lord Moncktons accounts are wrong then politely state your disagreement, your reason(s) for it, and why you think it matters because responses to those statements would be useful.
Richard

Avi ben Barzel
May 27, 2014 8:48 am

Gareth Phillips said (May 27, 2014 at 6:48 am): By the way, another UKIP politician has fallen by the wayside after including in his manifesto an idea that all disabled children should be compulsorily aborted to save on caring bills. Happily he has been disowned, but as the latest in a long line of UKIP crazies one does start to wonder about the rest of the crew.
It bears to remember, Mr Phillips, that new and contrarian parties always attract oddbals and “cowboys,” and that the MSM in the UK has worked long and hard to paint UKIP as the party of “swivel-eyed loons” and to hide some astounding loons from the parties it favours. I too am glad that UKIP cleaned house on this kooky compulsory abortion suggestion and without wishing to derail this conversation into the deadly quagmires of the abortion debate (and thereby end my pleasant honeymoon with the mods here before unpacking my luggage), it’s fair to ask whether justifying abortion on the grounds of culling the disabled, or on sex selection for that matter, is any worse ethically than on the grounds of “choice.” Yes, the compulsory bit in the hare-brained proposal makes a substantial difference, but the point I’m trying to make is that different standards are applied on issues and parties quite matter-of-factly, and that in the case of UKIP’s label, perception and manufactured reputation precedes reality.

May 27, 2014 9:52 am

UKIP’s intellectual principles, not subject to expeditious compromise, are what? Where is the clear signal that right now global warming skepticism is one?
John

milodonharlani
May 27, 2014 10:06 am

John Whitman says:
May 27, 2014 at 9:52 am
Maybe this from May 22, in which Farage reaffirms that he disagrees with Charley Slesvig-Holsten-Sønderborg-Lyksborg on “climate change”?
“I refer more towards his views on climate change. The Prince has given two speeches to the European Parliament in the past: The first and most memorable being when he called for the EU Institutions to have more legislative power. This was based upon his firm belief that climate change is man-made, and only the power of supranational institutions like the EU – with their two parliaments and MEPs knocking up millions of air miles every year – can stop that.
“MEPs gave the heir to the throne a standing ovation after that speech, in which he declared that in 10 years’ time we would have no polar ice caps left. Well, that’s seven years ago and I haven’t seen any polar bears drifting down the Thames clinging to life rafts. Nor did I join in the standing ovation at the time, as I did not agree with what the Prince said. I also do not think it is appropriate for the heir to a constitutional monarchy to want to take power away from his mother’s government.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/nigel-farage-i-seldom-agree-with-prince-charles-and-im-not-about-to-start-9420530.html
Could just be Nigel’s own opinion & not party policy, but IMO it is a signal, if not clear.
All I can say is, I wish Her Majesty long, healthy life, with longevity to rival her mother’s. I note that sadly the Queen Mother suffered the tragedy of outliving one of her daughters.

May 27, 2014 10:18 am

Richard Courtney:

You persistently carp about “Monckton’s obvious errors”. Indeed, the first of your several posts in this thread was at May 26, 2014 at 1:28 am and it began by saying
What Christopher Monckton has written is pure sophistry and I can only describe it as deceptive.
Sorry, but your behaviour will not do; it is harmful and disruptive.

Cobblers. Who died so that Monckton may make statements on WUWT that are demonstrably false without criticism? Harmful and disruptive to what, exactly? Is there some cause that I’m supposed to have signed up to that prevents me from calling it as I see it?
I have said on occasion that some of Willis Eschenbach’s statements may be wrong, but Willis has never taken it as an insult nor called me a troll. He has considered criticism as part of the process. Perhaps unlike Monckton he doesn’t think he has divine judgment on his side.
In other words, it is for Anthony Watts to decide whether I’m being harmful and disruptive. Perhaps you should report me?

Your abuse disrupts the thread by requiring a response which is not useful. If you think Lord Moncktons accounts are wrong then politely state your disagreement, your reason(s) for it, and why you think it matters because responses to those statements would be useful.

My abuse? I called Monckton’s statements in the article we are commenting on as sophistry and deceptive, not Monckton himself. It was Monckton who referred to me personally as a troll and whining without legitimate reasoning. He was being personal and abusive. I was not.
In any case Monckton has paid me the backhanded compliment of saying that I am as testy as Steve McIntyre, something I have always aspired to. If only I had Steve’s mathematical talent as well.
Certainly I can separate science from politics rather easily (unlike quite a few commenters on WUWT) and I don’t need any lessons on manners from you.
REPLY: I personally appoved JohnA’s first comment, which was held in moderation. Criticism is indeed part of the process. Some days Richard seems to think that WUWT is his own personal blog, and that he gets to play the role of moderator. I’ve been trying to gently push him towards being less caustic and to prevent starting these interminable food fights, but so far he doesn’t seem to have gotten the message. Unless he makes some changes, one day he’ll go too far and I’ll be forced to show him the door. Moderating the food fights he produces has become rather labor intensive.
FWIW, Monckton’s piece was a bit over the top, but then with UKIP being a dark horse candidate, some of that was to be expected.
Now, can we all just get along? – Anthony

Avi ben Barzel
May 27, 2014 10:43 am

John Whitman said (May 27, 2014 at 9:52 am): UKIP’s intellectual principles, not subject to expeditious compromise, are what? Where is the clear signal that right now global warming skepticism is one?
From Monty Python’s “Wot? Tigers? In Africa?” …Wot? Intellectual principles? In 21st century politics?
Go on, now, Mr Whitman, what intellectual principles do you see in any other parties? For that matter, what intellectual principles did you engage in applying unequal scrutiny, standards and expectations on a political newcomer? For the time being any party that is not aggressively pushing warmism is miles ahead of the others.

May 27, 2014 10:48 am

I cannot resist this.
Monckton:

I do apologize to all those who thought that by mentioning UKIP’s recent success here I was trying to promote UKIP. That was not the intention of the piece…

Please forgive us poor wretches who fail to grasp the English language and who mistakenly read the triumphalist piece entitled “UK’s only climate skeptic party crushingly wins the EU election” and continues to denigrate every other mainstream party as well as comparing the European Parliament to Tsar Nicholas’ Duma, as promoting the UKIP.
Heaven forfend that we should be so literal-minded!
I confess I completely missed the subtext where UKIP’s own policy and personnel upheavals were subjected to rigorous analysis. Perhaps others of the lower orders and former colonists were similarly bamboozled by the rhapsodic paean of congratulation that we mistakenly read with their own eyes, and not seeing the undertone of restraint and caution.

Avi ben Barzel
May 27, 2014 11:28 am

Mr John A, the rhapsodic paeans of congratulations (I do like that one very much) can perhaps be explained by the fact that Britons have been represented by three parties who are, superficialities aside, indistinguishable. Among conservative Brits especially (whose numbers should not be under-estimated as we learned), there has been a growing frustration over the fact that unelected outsiders are replacing native governance…the ancient authority of Parliament… and are dictating policies on immigration, energy, taxation, human rights and such. Resistance, to echo the Borg, has been futile, as the cost of moderate dissent or even questioning resulted in being dismissed as “deniers,” “homophobes,” “racists” and such. Now, the maligned and abused hoi poloi have said “enough” and the shout was heard loud and clear. Yes, a slap at the toffs whose only skill has been to fill out their expense report forms, while waiting for the EU commissariat and the government-funded “NGOs” to do their thinking for them. Simply put, a protest vote, but one with deep and far-reaching consequences. One can only hope, that is.
Good arguments have been made by you and others who have reasons to dislike or distrust UKIP, but what matters I think, is that the dam of shamed silence has finally broken. All parties are now on notice that ignoring, ridiculing or shouting down the voters whenever they complain will not come without consequences. The media has now learned that putting all of its proverbial eggs in the basket of political correctness may be unwise. It all portends interesting times, does it not?

RACookPE1978
Editor
May 27, 2014 11:47 am

Avi ben Barzel says:
May 27, 2014 at 11:28 am (replying to) Mr John A
… can perhaps be explained by the fact that Britons have been represented by three parties who are, superficialities aside, indistinguishable. Among conservative Brits especially (whose numbers should not be under-estimated as we learned), there has been a growing frustration over the fact that unelected outsiders are replacing native governance…the ancient authority of Parliament… and are dictating policies on immigration, energy, taxation, human rights and such.

One could argue that yonder Brit’s have been protesting against un-elected outsiders from the continent and Scandinavia for many thousands of years. But, it is true that the last successful outsider from the continent to regulate the entire island came ashore back in 1066. Even before that, it was only smaller groups of outsiders – but they were only locally successful before. But no one can claim any success between 1067 and 1967’s modern liberal era. (1948 began the trend ?)

Christoph Dollis
May 27, 2014 11:51 am

John A to Monckton of Brenchley:

I scarcely know where to begin with your response. To criticize your post by making factual statements about its reasoning and its citations is not being a “troll”…

Yes, that was pretty pathetic. It was even more predictable.
John A was very much on point. Even if one believes he was mistaken, that doesn’t make him a troll, but what is more mistaken is the implication that UKIP’s climate policy had much whatsoever to do with their election showing in a historic, Europe-wide election with similar results throughout the land for decidedly different reasons.
Monckton both says John A managed the much-respected Steve McIntyre’s blog and dismisses John A as a troll. Nicely done!
/sarc

Christoph Dollis
May 27, 2014 11:57 am

Anyway, while I doubt the ranking of climate change as even third, there was nothing trollish about John A’s comments, and much wrong about trying to summarily dismiss him has a troll.

milodonharlani
May 27, 2014 12:10 pm

RACookPE1978 says:
May 27, 2014 at 11:47 am
IMO the invaders of 1066 didn’t manage to regulate the whole island. Scotland managed to maintain some independence from the Normans & indeed even their Plantagenet heirs, as too did Wales for a while. Edward I subdued Wales temporarily, which is why Chucky is Prince thereof now, but the Crown was still having to fight the Welsh even under Henry IV, by whom his son Henry V was wounded by an arrow in the face. Edward I had trouble in Scotland, though.
Henry IV BTW, when he usurped the throne in 1399, became the first King of England to speak English as his mother tongue since Harold took an arrow in the eye in 1066. The Edwards probably had increasing familiarity with Middle English & Richard II (usurped by his cousin Henry Bolingbroke) might well have been fairly fluent, but their first language was Norman French, as of course was the case for their predecessors back to William the Conqueror.
Then there were the Hanoverians…

May 27, 2014 12:19 pm

Avi ben Barzel:

Among conservative Brits especially (whose numbers should not be under-estimated as we learned), there has been a growing frustration over the fact that unelected outsiders are replacing native governance…the ancient authority of Parliament… and are dictating policies on immigration, energy, taxation, human rights and such.

Ah yes, ’tis terrible when we are governed by unelected outsiders rather than unelected insiders such as the British Monarchy, the House of Lords and large parts of the British state beyond the reach of democratic consent, law or even scrutiny by way of a legal fiction called “Crown Immunity”, Official Secrecy and the Unwritten (and therefore infinitely mutable) Constitution.
It leaves one with a terrible choice – which unelected, unaccountable bureaucracy do I vote for? And does it matter who withholds my rights just so long as I don’t exercise them?

Christoph Dollis
May 27, 2014 12:58 pm

Fair enough, John A, but the election result was about more than democratic consent.

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