It's The Evidence, Stupid!

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

I hear a lot of folks give the following explanation for the vagaries of the climate, viz:

thumb its the sunIt’s the sun, stupid.

And in fact, when I first started looking at the climate I thought the very same thing. How could it not be the sun, I reasoned, since obviously that’s what heats the planet.

Unfortunately, the dang facts got in the way again …

Chief among the dang facts is that despite looking in a whole lot of places, I never could find any trace of the 11-year sunspot cycle in any climate records. And believe me, I’ve looked.

You see, I reasoned that no matter whether the mechanism making the sun-climate connection were direct variations in the brightness of the sun, or variations in magnetic fields, or variations in UV, or variations in cosmic rays, or variations in the solar wind, they all run in synchronicity with the sunspots. So no matter the mechanism, it would have a visible ~11-year heartbeat.

I’ve looked for that 11-year rhythm every place I could think of—surface temperature records, sea level records, lake level records, wheat price records, tropospheric temperature records, river flow records. Eventually, I wrote up some of these findings, and I invited readers to point out some record, any record, in which the ~ 11-year sunspot cycle could be seen.

Nothing.

However, I’m a patient man, and to this day, I continue to look for the 11-year cycle. You can’t prove a negative … but you can amass evidence. My latest foray is into the world of atmospheric pressure. I figured that the atmospheric pressure might be more sensitive to variations in something like say the solar wind than the temperature would be.

Let me start, however, by taking a look at the elusive creature at the heart of this quest, the ~11-year sunspot cycle. Here is the periodogram of that cycle, so that we know what kind of signature we’re looking for:

periodogram monthly sunspot recordsFigure 1. Periodogram, showing the strengths of the various-length cycles in the SIDC sunspot data. In order to be able to compare disparate datasets, the values of the cycles are expressed as a percentage of the total range of the underlying data.

As you’d expect, the main peak is at around 11 years. However, the sunspot cycles are not regular, so we also have smaller peaks at nearby cycle lengths. Figure 2 shows an expanded view of the central part of Figure 1, showing only the range from seven to twenty-five years:

periodogram 7 to 25 yr monthly sunspot recordsFigure 2. The same periodogram as in Figure 1, but showing only the 7 – 25 year range. 

Now, there is a temptation to see the central figure as some kind of regular amplitude-modulated signal, with side-lobes. However, that’s not what’s happening here. There is no regular signal. Instead of there being a regular cycle, the length of the sunspot cycle varies widely, from about nine to about 15 years, with most of them in the 10-12 year range. The periodogram is merely showing that variation in cycle length.

In any case, that’s what we’re looking for—some kind of strong signal, with its peak value in the range of about 10-12 years.

As I mentioned above, when I started looking at the climate, like many people I thought “It’s the sun, stupid”, but I had found no data to back that up. So what did I find in my latest search? Well, sweet Fannie Adams, as our cousins across the pond say … here are my results:

periodograms four long term atmospheric pressure recordsFigure 3. Periodograms of four long-term atmospheric pressure records from around the globe.

There are some interesting features of these records.

First, there is a very strong annual cycle. I expected annual cycles, but not ones that large. These cycles are 30% to 60% of the total range of the data. I assume they result in large part from the prevalence of low-pressure areas associated with storms in the local wintertime, combined with some effect from the variations in temperature. I also note that as expected, Tahiti, being nearest to the equator and with little in the way of either temperature variations or low-pressure storms, has the smallest one-year cycle.

Other than semi-annual and annual cycles, however, there is very little power in the other cycle lengths. Figure 4 shows the expanded version of the same data, from seven to twenty-five years. Note the change in scale.

periodogram four longterm atmos. press 7 to 25 yrsFigure 4. Periodograms of four long-term atmospheric pressure records from around the globe.

First, note that unlike the size of the annual cycle, which is half the total swing in pressures, none of these cycles have more than about 4% of the total swing of the atmospheric pressure. These are tiny cycles.

Next, generally there is more power in the ~ 9-year and the ~ 13-14 year ranges than there is in the ~ 11-year cycles.

So … once again, I end up back where I started. I still haven’t found any climate datasets that show any traces of the 11-year sunspot cycles. They may be there in the pressure data, to be sure, it is impossible to prove a negative, I can’t say they’re not there … but if so, they are hiding way, way down in the weeds.

Which of course leads to the obvious question … why no sign of the 11-year solar cycles?

I hold that this shows that the temperature of the system is relatively insensitive to changes in forcing. This, of course, is rank heresy to the current scientific climate paradigm, which holds that ceteris paribus, changes in temperature are a linear function of changes in forcing. I disagree. I say that the temperature of the planet is set by a dynamic thermoregulatory system composed of emergent phenomena that only appear when the surface gets hotter than a certain temperature threshold. These emergent phenomena maintain the temperature of the globe within narrow bounds (e.g. ± 0.3°C over the 20th Century), despite changes in volcanoes, despite changes in aerosols, despite changes in GHGs, despite changes in forcing of all kinds. The regulatory system responds to temperature, not to forcing.

And I say that because of the existence of these thermoregulatory systems, the 11-year variations in the sun’s UV and magnetism and brightness, as well as the volcanic variations and other forcing variations … well, they make little difference.

As a result, once again, I open the Quest for the Holy 11-Year Grail to others. I invite those that believe that “It’s the sun, stupid” to show us the terrestrial climate record that has any sign of being correlated with the 11-year sunspot cycles. I’ve looked. Lots of folks have looked … where is that record? I encourage you to employ whatever methods you want to use to expose the connection—cross-correlation, wavelet analysis, spectrum analysis, fourier analysis, the world is your lobster. Report back your findings, I’d like to put this question to bed.

It’s a lovely Saturday in spring, what could be finer? Gotta get outside and study me some sunshine. I wish you all many such days.

w.

For Clarity: If you disagree with someone, please quote their exact words that you disagree with. It avoids all kinds of pernicious misunderstandings, because it lets us all know exactly where you think they went off the rails.

Why The 11-year Cycle?: Because it is the biggest cycle, and we know all of the other cycles (magnetism, TSI, solar wind) move in synchronicity with the sunspots. As a result, if you want to claim that the climate is responding to say a slow, smaller 100-year cycle in the sunspot data, then by the same token it must be responding more strongly to the larger 11-cycle in the sunspot data, and so the effect should be visible there.

The Subject Of This Post: Please do not mistake this quest for the elusive 11-year cycle in climate datasets as an opportunity for you to propound your favorite theory about approximately 43-year pseudo-cycles due to the opposition of Uranus. If you can’t show me a climate dataset containing an 11-year cycle, your hypothesis is totally off-topic for this post. I encourage you to write it up and send it to Anthony, he may publish it, or to Tallbloke, he might also. I encourage everyone to get their ideas out there. Here on this thread, though, I’m looking for the 11-year cycle sunspot cycle in any terrestrial climate records.

The Common Cycles in Figures 3 and 4: Obviously, the four records in Figs. 3 & 4 have a common one-year cycle. As an indication of the sensitivity of the method that I’m using, consider the two other peaks which are common to all four of the records. These are the six-month cycle, and the 9-year cycle. It is well known that the moon raises tides in the atmosphere just as it does in the ocean. The 9-year periodicity is not uncommon in tidal datasets, and the same is true about the 6-month periodicity. I would say that we’re looking at the signature of the atmospheric tides in those cycle lengths.

Variable-Length Cycles, AKA “Pseudocycles” or “Approximate Cycles”: Some commenters in the past have asserted that my method, which I’ve nicknamed “Slow Fourier Analysis” but which actually seems to be a variant of what might be called direct spectrum analysis, is incapable of detecting variable-length cycles. They talk about a cycle say around sixty years that changes period over time.

However, the sunspot cycle is also quite variable in length … and despite that my method not only picks up the most common cycle length, it shows the strength of the sunspot cycles at the other cycle lengths as well.

A Couple of my Previous Searches for the 11-Year Sunspot Cycle:

Looking at four long-term temperature records here.

A previous look at four more long-term temperature records.

Atmospheric Pressure and Sunspot Data:

Madras

Nagasaki 

Tahiti to 1950  and Tahiti 1951 on (note different units)

Darwin to 1950  and Darwin 1951 on  (note different units)

Sunspots These are from SIDC. Note that per advice from Leif Svalgaard, in the work I did above the pre-1947 values have been increased by 20% to adjust for the change in counting methods. It does not affect this analysis, you can use either one.

For ease of downloading, I’ve also made up a CSV file containing all of the above data, called Long Term Atmospheric Pressure.csv

And for R users, I’ve saved all 5 data files in R format as “Long Pressure Datasets.tab

Code: Man, I hate this part … hang on … let me clean it up a bit … OK, I just whacked out piles of useless stuff and ran it in an empty workspace and it seemed to fly. You need two things, a file called madras pressure.R  and my Slow Fourier Transform Functions.R. Let me know what doesn’t work.

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Mick
May 24, 2014 3:59 pm

Willis,
You can’t see the 100Hz AC if you stick a thermometer in the chicken soup coking on the hot-plate.
This doesn’t mean there is no oscillation of incoming energy, but the thermal inertia is acting as a low-pass filter…..
Also…. 0.5deg Celsius variation is significant for us humans, for our comfort. But looking at it in absolute terms, not much different between 300K or 300.5K ..about as much as in the Sun’s delta TSI ….me think.
(I hope my English is comprehensible enough…. apologize if it’s not, spell check struggle to understand my accent)

sabretruthtiger
May 24, 2014 4:06 pm

“One should not expect the ~11-year cycle to have a major influence on global temperature, owing to the homoeostatic effect of the two boundaries of the atmosphere: the near-infinite heat-sink that is the ocean and the infinite heat-sink that is outer space. Temperature will only change significantly if there is a sufficiently long period of persistently higher-than-normal solar activity (as there was during most of the past century) or lower-than-normal solar activity.
The significance of the now embarrassingly long period of no-warming over the past 17 years 9 months (RSS), or 13 years 4 months (mean of all five datasets), is that the warming effect from CO2 is insufficient to overcome the cooling effect of declining solar activity (the decline compared with 1960 is the steepest and one of the deepest in the past several hundred years) combined with the negative or cooling phase of the PDO and a recent decline in the Nino/Nina ratio.”
Nicely put, Mr Eschenbach put in his place somewhat.
Honestly there can surely be no other cause of natural variability other than the sun, it, along with axial tilt/proximity cycles can be the only causes of variability once electromagnetic and volcanic earth-based anomalies are discounted as the system is heat driven.
But what do I know, I’m not a climate scientist, Mr Eschenbach it would be extremely helpful if you could respond to Monckton’s assertions and give us an alternative to what drives natural variability.
Cheers

May 24, 2014 4:08 pm

Willis said:
“You see, I reasoned that no matter whether the mechanism making the sun-climate connection were direct variations in the brightness of the sun, or variations in magnetic fields, or variations in UV, or variations in cosmic rays, or variations in the solar wind, they all run in synchronicity with the sunspots.”
Here’s the last 50 years of solar wind speed, can we see the sunspot cycles?
http://snag.gy/r55Lr.jpg
Estimate where they are, then look here to check:
http://snag.gy/5XTIk.jpg

J Martin
May 24, 2014 4:11 pm

Since my link to the Timo Niroma graph is awaiting moderation due perhaps to the name of the website I took it from. Timo found that the solar cycles peaked at 10.25 years and 11.9 years, with the stronger peak at 10.25, 11 years is a dip, not a peak.

May 24, 2014 4:12 pm

I agree that “it’s the evidence, stupid.” But, it is not the 11-year cycle that is the evidence of interest. the long-term solar cycles, of which we know very little, are the subject of interest, at least to me. They may or may not be regular cycles.
It is well-known that climate gets very cold when the sunspots disappear for decades on end. We have, as far as I know, no proven, accepted causal mechanism why the absence of sunspots causes the Earth to cool. There is the cloud and cosmic ray hypothesis, with cosmic rays modulated by the sun’s magnetic field.
Do we actually need a proven, causal mechanism before it is prudent to act? We can look to the ancient past, when humans had no clue why the sun rose in the East and set in the West. They had no clue why it became cold each winter, but was warm enough to grow crops each summer. They (we believe, at least I believe) figured out the correlation, though. Warm summer equals “plant the crops, and food will grow.” Would it sound silly, to be in a village council meeting thousands of years ago, and argue that we should not plant crops in the Spring because there was no causal mechanism to guarantee the warm summer would follow?
In my May, 2012 speech to the chemical engineers in Southern California, I made the point that we have excellent correlations over hundreds of years that show weak sunspot cycles produce global cooling. In fact, we have evidence that very weak or non-existent sunspot cycles produce extreme cold. The opposite is also true: strong sunspot cycles produce warming, while modest sunspot cycles produce an intermediate temperature.. It is apparent, at least to me, that the late 20th century warming could be attributed to the combined warm ocean cycles with strong sunspot cycles – with no need for CO2 to be considered.
However, with reference to the 11-year sunspot cycle, there is indeed evidence. A 9 to 12 year cycle likely exists in the North Pacific Gyre, as reported by C. A. Perry, where one rotation of the gyre could take approximately 9-12 years. (Perry, Water Resources Division, USGS, Lawrence, Kansas USA). Perry showed that energy from TSI absorbed in the tropical ocean is released after roughly half of the 9-12 years onto the North American continent. My words, not Perry’s, a full cycle of the gyre would be the same as the 11-year sunspot cycle.
http://ks.water.usgs.gov/solar-irradiance-variations-and-regional-precipitations
Perry, C.A., 1994, Solar-Irradiance Variations and Regional Precipitations in the Western United States: International Journal of Climatology, v. 14, November 1994, p. 969-983.

Stuart
May 24, 2014 4:14 pm

You can’t see a 11yr cycle because your thermoregulatory mechanism irons them out, however just like an air conditioning unit, it only works when excess heat is supplied (summer) when long term lack of heating (maunder minimum) (winter) the AC stops controlling the temperature.

Keith
May 24, 2014 4:19 pm

Willis, This study ( a guest post at Pielke by Prof Alexander) correlates river flow and sunspot cycles:
http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/climate-change-the-west-vs-the-rest-by-will-alexander/
Not saying I subscribe or not, just pointing it out.

Chad Wozniak
May 24, 2014 4:20 pm

My view of this is that the historical record provides sufficient evidence to establish the Sun as the primary driver of climate,. The aggregate of the variations in solar activity over the longer haul are clearly the causative agent, amplified by ocean current variations (themselves an effect of solar activity) and the Earth’s orbital motion, and occasionally affected by volcanism. It is obviously much more complicated than just the 11-year sunspot cycle, but that complexity, with the intermittent non-correlation of some factors to temps does not mean the Sun isn’t the primary driver. It has to be, as the Earth does not emit more energy than it receives from the Sun (unlike the gas giant planets). Details of how the Sun drives climate still need to be worked out, but on a macro level it seems plain that the Sun is the primary force in climate change.
There is no way in hell that CO2 has anything approaching the forcing effect of changes in solar radiation.

BruceC
May 24, 2014 4:25 pm

The 11-year cycle may or may not have an effect on climate, but HAM radio (1.8MHz to 50MHz) enthusiasts certainly look forward to it.

Bill H
May 24, 2014 4:27 pm

Ok Willis;
One of the observations over the last few decades is waning sun spots and their magnetic output in the 0.6um band becoming much weaker while the 1.2um band has increased. While this does nothing to Total Solar Irradiance, it does change how the earths atmosphere affects it. At .6um water vapor has little effect yet at 1.2um it has a moderate effect of absorption and scattering,
Now this has not only affected the sunspots themselves but it affects general output for some reason. This would render the 11 year cycle mute, yet if the change in intensity (of differing bands) was large enough could result in cooling, warming, or glaciation. And all without a cycle being present.
Let the beatings begin.. I know they are coming..

Matthew R Marler
May 24, 2014 4:32 pm

Willis Eschenbach in response to J. Peterson: And I still don’t understand how a long, say 60 or 80 year slow small change in the sun’s output could have an effect while a much smaller decadal change doesn’t have an effect. What is the mechanism?
Indeed. No case for a mechanism has yet been supported by much evidence.

Steve from Rockwood
May 24, 2014 4:33 pm

Forget about correlation. What is the mechanism by which sun spots would heat the Earth anyway? Otherwise I’m leaning toward the 22 year cycle.

scf
May 24, 2014 4:34 pm

It’s easy to see the solar cycles on earth. For instance, here:
http://www.hindu.com/2010/07/20/stories/2010072053280200.htm

Matthew R Marler
May 24, 2014 4:40 pm

Roger Sowell: It is well-known that climate gets very cold when the sunspots disappear for decades on end. We have, as far as I know, no proven, accepted causal mechanism why the absence of sunspots causes the Earth to cool. There is the cloud and cosmic ray hypothesis, with cosmic rays modulated by the sun’s magnetic field.
Do we actually need a proven, causal mechanism before it is prudent to act?

Act how, and invest how much money, labor and time? Your question is a counterpart to the question that “catastrophists” pose: with as much evidence as we have about CO2, isn’t it prudent to act now?
To me, prudence entails continued research into mechanism, and agricultural research, R&D on all possible sources of energy, and construction of better flood control and irrigation infrastructure. How about you? Shouldn’t “prudence” entail actions that are likely to be effective whether the Earth warms or cools overall?
That’s incidental to Willis’s difficulties in finding 11 and 22 year periods.

Matthew R Marler
May 24, 2014 4:44 pm

Willis, in response to Mick: The earth’s temperature swings on the order of 6°C peak to peak over the course of a year. Why would it not respond over an 11-year period?
Yeh. Why not?

Paul Westhaver
May 24, 2014 4:50 pm

Well.
There is one plot missing.
The plot that is missing is the day vs night vs temperature. Anywhere on the earth, if it is day,it is warmer than the same place at night which is always colder, all other things being equal.
That temperature spread, shown here for example;
http://www.cita.utoronto.ca/~rjh/adelaide/adelaide-weather-l.html
Indicates what a strong influence solar radiation has and the time constant associated with the radiative effects. Pretty rapid.
The delta T is about 10C in 24 hours.
That is pretty high gain response. Also a pretty short time constant.
A “global warming” if there is one, has to overcome this demonstrable heat cycle. There is no other heat source or sink on that scale.
When there are no alternatives, the improbable must be possible, ergo, the Sun remains.

May 24, 2014 4:56 pm

Willis Eschenbach is too hasty in saying I made a terrible mistake. I reported, correctly, the link between fluctuations in solar activity and grain prices found by Herschel, but went on to say, in terms and with reasons, that one should not expect the 11-year cycle to have much effect on global temperature. The terrible mistake lies in trying to find such an influence given the well-known homeostatic influences on global temperature that are self-evident in the ice-core records.

May 24, 2014 4:58 pm

Alex E says:
May 24, 2014 at 2:03 pm
Sunspots are not causing anything and don’t know of anyone who said they were. It is a proxy for the sun’s magnetic activity and not a particularly good one.
Sunspots are a remarkably good proxy for solar magnetism. I just returned from the 4th Sunspot Number Workshop [in Locarno]. Pages 7ff of http://www.leif.org/EOS/Summary_SS4_Stenflo.pdf show a recent analysis,