In a recent interview, Kevin Trenberth, Distinguished Senior Scientist, from NCAR said the upcoming 2014/15 El Niño might shift global surface temperatures upwards by 0.2 to 0.3 deg C to further the series of upward steps. Curiously, Trenberth is continuing to suggest that the warming we’ve experienced since the mid-1970s resulted from naturally occurring, sunlight-fueled El Niño events and that we might get to experience yet another of those El Niño-caused warming steps as a result of the 2014/15 El Niño. So let’s take a look at what he’s suggesting and what the future MAY POSSIBLY hold in store…if Trenberth’s dreams come true.
Peter Sinclair of ClimateCrocks recently produced two YouTube interviews with NCAR’s Kevin Trenberth about the upcoming 2014/15 El Niño. See Part 1 here. At about the 9-minute mark in Part 2 (here), Trenberth speculates, sounding gleeful, that the upcoming El Niño may lead to another in the series of upward steps in global surface temperature:
One of the real prospects to look out for is whether we go back into a different phase of this Pacific Decadal Oscillation. And one of the potential prospects we can watch out for is whether the next whole decade will be distinctly warmer…uh, uh…and so, in terms of the global mean temperature, instead of having a gradual trend going up, maybe the way to think of it is we have a series of steps, like a staircase. And, and, it’s possible, that we’re approaching one of those steps. And we will go up, you know, two- or three-tenths of a degree Celsius to a next level, and maybe we won’t come down again. I think that’s one of the things we could possibly look out for.
Some of you may believe that Kevin Trenberth is actually looking forward to another upward step…not just looking out for one. So let’s take another look at the upward steps in global surface temperatures he was happily discussing.
Kevin Trenberth introduced his “big jumps” in global surface temperatures in an article last year, without stating their cause. We discussed those big jumps and identified their causes in the post Open Letter to the Royal Meteorological Society Regarding Dr. Trenberth’s Article “Has Global Warming Stalled?”. Please refer to that post for the detailed discussion. Figure 1 is an update of Figure 10 from that post with data through 2013. NCDC global land+ocean surface temperature anomaly data were used for consistency with Trenberth’s original article (Data source here.)
Figure 1
SUPPOSE TRENBERTH’S DREAMS COME TRUE
Trenberth is now suggesting that global surface temperatures might shift upwards 0.2 to 0.3 deg C again in response to the 2014/15 El Niño. So for illustration purposes only, let’s take the data from the 16-year period of 1998 to 2013 and shift them up those 0.2 and 0.3 deg C and insert them in the time period of 2015 to 2030. See Figure 2. The period-average temperature anomaly of 0.57 deg C for the period of 1998-2013 would shift up to 0.77 deg C or 0.87 deg C for 2015-2030.
Figure 2
WOULD AN UPWARD STEP HELP THE CLIMATE MODELS?
An upward shift in global surface temperatures would definitely help the models for a few years, but, because the global surface temperatures warmed in a step, the hiatus period that followed would again cause a continued divergence between the models and the real world. See Figure 3 for a model-“data” comparison starting in 1979 and running through 2030.
Figure 3
The graph includes the multi-model ensemble-member mean for the climate models stored in the CMIP5 archive, with two scenarios: RCP6.0 and RCP8.5. And the two sets of future “data” are created once again by taking the NCDC global surface temperature anomalies for the 16-year period of 1998 to 2013, shifting them up 0.2 to 0.3 deg C and inserting them in the time period of 2015 to 2030. Figure 4 includes the same model-data comparison but with the commonly used start year of 1998.
Figure 4
TRENBERTH’S CONFLICT
Kevin Trenberth appears to have conflicting causes for the global warming we’ve experienced since the mid-1970s. On one hand, for decades, Trenberth has been a true-blue proponent of the hypothesis of human-induced global warming, with the warming caused by the emissions of manmade greenhouse gases. On the other, for about a year, he has been promoting the “big jumps” in global surface temperatures, with the steps in the staircase of global surface temperatures being caused by El Niño events.
There would be no conflict if Trenberth was able to show that manmade greenhouse gases somehow contributed to the warm water that fuels El Niño events. But Trenberth has always noted that it is sunlight that provides the warm water for El Niños. In a recent post (see here), we presented two examples of this from his peer-reviewed papers, and for those of you new to this discussion, they’re worth repeating. The first is Trenberth et al. (2002). They write (my boldface):
The negative feedback between SST and surface fluxes can be interpreted as showing the importance of the discharge of heat during El Niño events and of the recharge of heat during La Niña events. Relatively clear skies in the central and eastern tropical Pacific allow solar radiation to enter the ocean, apparently offsetting the below normal SSTs, but the heat is carried away by Ekman drift, ocean currents, and adjustments through ocean Rossby and Kelvin waves, and the heat is stored in the western Pacific tropics. This is not simply a rearrangement of the ocean heat, but also a restoration of heat in the ocean.
The second paper is Trenberth and Fasullo (2011). They write (my boldface):
Typically prior to an El Niño, in La Niña conditions, the cold sea waters in the central and eastern tropical Pacific create high atmospheric pressure and clear skies, with plentiful sunshine heating the ocean waters. The ocean currents redistribute the ocean heat which builds up in the tropical western Pacific Warm Pool until an El Niño provides relief (Trenberth et al. 2002).
And we confirmed in the post Open Letter to the Royal Meteorological Society Regarding Dr. Trenberth’s Article “Has Global Warming Stalled?” that it is sunlight that provides the warm water that serves as fuel for El Niños.
“….MAYBE WE WON’T COME DOWN AGAIN…”
Trenberth’s statement in the YouTube interview, “And we will go up two- or three-tenths of a degree Celsius to a next level, and maybe we won’t come down again,” is similar to one made in his August 2013 interview on NPR . There he is reported to have said:
…what happens at the end of these hiatus periods, is suddenly there’s a big jump [in temperature] up to a whole new level and you never go back to that previous level again…
Those are curious statements. Trenberth has never taken the time to explain that we would NOT expect the surface temperatures to go back down again. So his “never go back to that previous level again” seems to be a clear case of misdirection.
An El Niño…
- releases a tremendous amount of heat from the tropical Pacific to the atmosphere, and…
- it redistributes a tremendous amount of warm water within the oceans from the tropical Pacific to adjacent ocean basins, and…
- according to Trenberth and Fasullo (2011), an El Niño causes changes in atmospheric circulation that reduces the evaporation from the Atlantic and Indian Oceans and allows more sunlight to penetrate and warm those ocean basins to depth, both of which contribute to the warming of the Atlantic and Indian Oceans in response to an El Niño without the direct exchange of heat from the tropical Pacific.
Regarding 3, Trenberth and Fasulo (2011) includes:
Meanwhile, maximum warming of the Indian and Atlantic Oceans occurs about 5 months after the El Niño owing to sunny skies and lighter winds (less evaporative cooling), while the convective action is in the Pacific.
The upward steps are precisely what we would expect of ENSO if it is viewed, not as noise in the surface temperature record, but as a chaotic, sunlight-fueled, recharge-discharge oscillator.
It appears that El Niño events, combined with the heat uptake in the tropical Pacific during La Niña events, are major contributors to any radiative imbalance that may (or may not) exist.
CLOSING
The climate science community hasn’t bothered to properly account for the contribution of ENSO. And there’s no reason that we would expect them to do so. Any attempt by the climate science community to account for ENSO’s contribution to the warming of surface temperatures and the oceans to depth would detract from the hypothetical influence of manmade greenhouse gases.
EARLIER POSTS IN THIS SERIES
- The 2014/15 El Niño – Part 1 – The Initial Processes of the El Niño.
- The 2014/15 El Niño – Part 2 – The Alarmist Misinformation (BS) Begins
- The 2014/15 El Niño – Part 3 – Early Evolution – Comparison with 1982/83 & 1997/98 El Niño Events
- The 2014/15 El Niño – Part 4 – Early Evolution – Comparison with Other Satellite-Era El Niños
- The 2014/15 El Niño – Part 5 – The Relationship Between the PDO and ENSO
- The 2014/15 El Niño – Part 6 – What’s All The Hubbub About?…
- The 2014/15 El Niño – Part 7 – May 2014 Update and What Should Happen Next
- The 2014/15 El Niño – Part 8 – The Southern Oscillation Indices
And for additional introductory discussions of El Niño processes see:
- An Illustrated Introduction to the Basic Processes that Drive El Niño and La Niña Events
- El Niño and La Niña Basics: Introduction to the Pacific Trade Winds
- La Niñas Do NOT Suck Heat from the Atmosphere
- ENSO Basics: Westerly Wind Bursts Initiate an El Niño
FURTHER READING
My ebook Who Turned on the Heat? goes into a tremendous amount of detail to explain El Niño and La Niña processes and the long-term aftereffects of strong El Niño events. Who Turned on the Heat? weighs in at a whopping 550+ pages, about 110,000+ words. It contains somewhere in the neighborhood of 380 color illustrations. In pdf form, it’s about 23MB. It includes links to more than a dozen animations, which allow the reader to view ENSO processes and the interactions between variables.
I’ve lowered the price of Who Turned on the Heat? from U.S.$8.00 to U.S.$5.00. A free preview in pdf format is here. The preview includes the Table of Contents, the Introduction, the first half of section 1 (which was provided complete in the post here), a discussion of the cover, and the Closing. Take a run through the Table of Contents. It is a very-detailed and well-illustrated book—using data from the real world, not models of a virtual world. Who Turned on the Heat? is only available in pdf format…and will only be available in that format. Click here to purchase a copy. Thanks. Book sales and tips will hopefully allow me to return to blogging full-time once again.




Joseph Bastardi says: May 20, 2014 at 3:15 pm
“WOW the UKMET is not impressed”
The linked page says it was last updated Jan 20.
Nick Stokes – The page does contain information on “May 2014 Niño3.4”. Some updating is presumably automated, while ‘last updated’ refers to manual updates.
So Trenbeth reckons now that the increase in global warming of the past X years is due to the natural event of El Nino? Is he Idiota? Or does he think we are?
I agree with J. BASTARD’s comments . The so called super El Nino or really just strong EL Ninos typically happen only about one per decade. I do not see a strong El Nino until the end of this decade.Our Northern Hemisphere oceans have been cooling the last 10 years and the globe is not warming like during the decade before 1997/1998. Personally I see a weak El Nino only.
Since the missing warning is obviously at the deep ocean depths, the missing ocean expansion is obviously at the bottom. Duh!
Joseph Bastardi says: “Joe D Aleo’s studies on the cold pdo enso events, where you do get the 9 month spike of the pdo and mei, look to spot on.”
I know I’ve asked before, Joe, because you’ve referred to it previously, but have you ever provided a link to Joe D’Aleo’s studies on the cold PDO ENSO events?
One can believe that ENSO is causing GWing and be unhappy because there really is no mechanism (it’s the sun, it’s the sun! not.) or one can believe that GWing caused by the increase in CO2 (a mechanism) is causing more intense El Niño conditions and less intense La Niña conditions, at least on the average.
I’m going with the mechanism … it’s simpler.
Joseph Bastardi says: “The super ninos are preceded by prolonged warm mei’s”
The MEI is simply NINO3 sea surface temperature anomalies that have been modified with a number of other variables. It was created at the time when scientists were looking for an index that represented ENSO better than the SOI. They selected NINO3.4 region sea surface temperature data for a number of reasons. Further, here’s a comparison of the MEI and NINO3.4 SST anomalies from a post I prepared a couple of years ago:
http://i56.tinypic.com/8yzwv7.jpg
The MEI shifted upwards following the 1976 Pacific Climate Shift for a while….
http://i53.tinypic.com/15805de.jpg
….which may be why the MEI appears to be warmer during the evolution of the strong El Ninos of the 1980s and 90s.
Those graphs are from the following post:
http://bobtisdale.wordpress.com/2010/09/11/the-multivariate-enso-index-mei-captures-the-global-temperature-impacts-of-enso-differently-than-sst-based-indices/
Regards
tim says: “Bob, my understanding may not be complete but El Nino’s clearly result in a net cooling of the Pacific which I would classify as a cooling event. This is shown by sea level drops coinciding with El Nino events despite the corresponding increases in global surface temperatures.”
tim, data contradict your beliefs. Sea level rises during an El Nino because precipitation decreases over land and increases over the oceans. Here’s a link to a University of Colorado webpage to confirm the sea level portion of my statement:
http://sealevel.colorado.edu/content/2014rel1-gmsl-and-multivariate-enso-index
And here’s a graph that compares global precipitation anomalies for land and oceans:
http://bobtisdale.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/figure-15.png
From this post:
http://bobtisdale.wordpress.com/2013/07/08/models-fail-global-land-precipitation-global-ocean-precipitation/
Regards
Greg says: “During the recent warming it is clear that the both max and min excursions were greater. Looks like you oscillator was pumping a bit harder.”
And global surface temperatures responded accordingly; that is, they rose.
Nick Stokes says to Joe Bastardi: “The linked page says it was last updated Jan 20.”
The text may have been last updated Jan 20, but the model predictions are current through May 2014.
“There would be no conflict if Trenberth was able to show that manmade greenhouse gases somehow contributed to the warm water that fuels El Niño events.”
Wait for it. Kelvin Trendsmith has M. Mann leading the way showing how to mannipulate the AMO peak to the early 1990s to show that global warming was actually worse but was moderated by the AMO. These guys are going to take the Shaman’s CO2 formula as given and adjust everything else to suit. I’m predicting that Trendsmith will wrought the ENSO data into a CO2 thermageddon.
Robert of Ottawa says: “So Trenbeth reckons now that the increase in global warming of the past X years is due to the natural event of El Nino? Is he Idiota? Or does he think we are?”
I’m not sure why you’re calling him an idiot when, for more than 5 years, I’ve been saying that ENSO is responsible for global warming:
http://bobtisdale.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/the-manmade-global-warming-challenge.pdf
I have to disagree. AN upward shift would not help the climate models. They do not account for El Ninos nor are they stair stepped. The comparison would be akin to a dart thrower scoring one 20 and proclaiming his accuracy when the other 8 hit other targets.
At the NOAA El Nino page, http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/anomnight.current.gif they display this chart. It shows the Great Lakes with a dark red color code for temps above normal. I wonder how that is possible with ice still in places at this date.
Does anyone have a guess why the anomaly would be red for a place with historic ice levels or is this the new norm?
So first, you put the Pacific in a giant microwave oven, then you pour it into a thermos, and lastly, after 17 years or so, you pour the thermos back into the Pacific basin.
I must be missing something when I Look at the satellite temperature data for the 1998 “super El Nino”: http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:1996
Like the Grand-Old-Duke-of-York, it marched the temperatures up to the top of the hill.
And then it jolly well marched them back down again.
The so called “upward step” didn’t occur until about 2001. What gives?
That image of Dr. Trenberth makes me think he is like a detective, searching out the heat he knows is there, no matter how many grants, no matter how many conferences, no matter how many ‘consulting fees’ it takes. In fact he reminds me another famous detective from history:
If one model out of nine was a good match with reality, boy would they would throw a party at the IPCC.
If the El Nino fails to raise temperatures by 0.2-0.3 degrees “to a next level” does this make Trenberth wrong? It seems to me as though the distinguished senior climate scientist is never wrong, even when his predictions fail to come true. I could use some of that.
Somebody:
Heat has been rigorously defined since the days of Maxwell, possibly earlier. It is only pedantic physicists who cannot accept this. Engineers, i.e. people who build things that work and get sued if they break, have always defined heat as energy. Not the transfer of energy. You physicists look at the various equations for q, which in SI has units of watts and think we are talking about heat. We are talking about heat transfer of joules per second. The joules are the heat. The joules per second are the heat transfer. When an engineer talks about q, she is talking about Watts or other unit for power. I have a number of advanced (third year engineering or higher) texts on this. They date from the 1940’s (my father’s) to the 2000’s. They all speak of heat as energy and heat transfer as power. When you raise these objections you show that you have ZERO experience in real world applications of heat, such as combustion engineering, metallurgy, engine design, etc., etc. You have been sold a bill of goods by someone who doesn’t like engineers and now you are trying to pedal the same pile o’ poo. Max Planck was the last true physicist who added to the study of thermodynamics. It is truly a settled science. That is, it is engineering. Leave the definitions to those of us who use them please. I’m not going to comment further on this. This thread has been hijacked enough.
Bob, here is my suggested title for you next book: “Who Turned Off the Sun: The Little Ice Age Revisited”. What goes up must come down if the recharge phase is blocked.
An upcoming Negative Trenberth Event (Negative TE): an observation critical tothe CAGW narrative that Trenberth makes that doesn’t happen. The result of a negative TE is that Trenberth will say the observations are wrong, in this case that a 0.2 to 0.3C rise is correct IF all the global data is used, as per Hansen’s modified data.
A negative TE is not important for the error it reveals, but the predictable reaction it creates, i.e. to defend at all costs the “consensus” narrative.
(A Positive TE, by the way, is an observation that shouldn’t be within the Trenberth/IPCC storyline, but is. The error is again not as important as the instant reaction that the observation, not the model, is in error.)
Trenberth is just an ordinary run-of-th-mill pervert lurking within AGU, NSF and NCAR.
Ouch ! Did I write ThaT ! Deary Me . Ho Ho HO.
I think this el nino will be the undoing of Kevin Trenberth. Call it a hunch.