From the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK), home of Schnellenhuber.
Uncorking East Antarctica yields unstoppable sea-level rise
The melting of a rather small ice volume on East Antarctica’s shore could trigger a persistent ice discharge into the ocean, resulting in unstoppable sea-level rise for thousands of years to come. This is shown in a study now published in Nature Climate Change by scientists from the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK). The findings are based on computer simulations of the Antarctic ice flow using improved data of the ground profile underneath the ice sheet.
“East Antarctica’s Wilkes Basin is like a bottle on a slant,” says lead-author Matthias Mengel, “once uncorked, it empties out.” The basin is the largest region of marine ice on rocky ground in East Antarctica. Currently a rim of ice at the coast holds the ice behind in place: like a cork holding back the content of a bottle. While the air over Antarctica remains cold, warming oceans can cause ice loss on the coast. Ice melting could make this relatively small cork disappear – once lost, this would trigger a long term sea-level rise of 300-400 centimeters. “The full sea-level rise would ultimately be up to 80 times bigger than the initial melting of the ice cork,” says co-author Anders Levermann.
“Until recently, only West Antarctica was considered unstable, but now we know that its ten times bigger counterpart in the East might also be at risk,” says Levermann, who is head of PIK’s research area Global Adaptation Strategies and a lead-author of the sea-level change chapter of the most recent scientific assessment report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, IPCC. This report, published in late September, projects Antarctica’s total sea level contribution to be up to 16 centimeters within this century. “If half of that ice loss occurred in the ice-cork region, then the discharge would begin. We have probably overestimated the stability of East Antarctica so far,” says Levermann.
Emitting greenhouse-gases could start uncontrollable ice-melt
Melting would make the grounding line retreat – this is where the ice on the continent meets the sea and starts to float. The rocky ground beneath the ice forms a huge inland sloping valley below sea-level. When the grounding line retreats from its current position on a ridge into the valley, the rim of the ice facing the ocean becomes higher than before. More ice is then pushed into the sea, eventually breaking off and melting. And the warmer it gets, the faster this happens.
Complete ice discharge from the affected region in East Antarctica takes five thousand to ten thousand years in the simulations. However, once started, the discharge would slowly but relentlessly continue until the whole basin is empty, even if climate warming stopped. “This is the underlying issue here”, says Matthias Mengel. “By emitting more and more greenhouse gases we might trigger responses now that we may not be able to stop in the future.” Such extensive sea level rise would change the face of planet Earth – coastal cities such as Mumbai, Tokyo or New York are likely to be at risk.
Article: Mengel, M., Levermann, A. (2014): Ice plug prevents irreversible discharge from East Antarctica. Nature Climate Change (online) [DOI: 10.1038/NCLIMATE2226]
Weblink to the article: http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate2226.html
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Meanwhile…back in reality
Antarctic Sea Ice Blows Away Records In April
By Paul Homewood
Antarctic sea ice continues to set new records, with extent in April at the highest since measurements began in 1979.
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/index.html
Ice extent has also been above last year’s already high levels for most of this year.
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/index.html
Meanwhile, both GISS surface and UAH satellite datasets show the Antarctic has been much colder than usual recently.
Full story:
Meanwhile…back in reality
What this and other studies of ice shelves and ocean terminating glaciers continue to demonstrate is that subsurface ocean temperatures and currents are important, as are the details of the geometry of the sea floor and the bedrock the ice sheet is resting on. It should come as no surprise to anyone that the dynamics of ice sheets and oceans are complex, involving things below the surface.
Referring to air temperature and sea ice extent as “reality” and using them like some kind of simple proxy when the subject of ice shelves comes up indicates this is not well understood here.
5,000 years in the future? 5,000 years ago in 3000 BC how was NYC City looking? Do these ‘scientists’ understand technology continues to advance and in 7014 AD we might have cities on Earth the Moon and Mars?
Peer Review isn’t working. We need to add Sneer Review…
Doug Proctor: there are other words: “may,” “possibly,” “might,” “if,” “perhaps,” etc.
http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/geophysics/science-antarctica-channels-beneath-ice-shelf-01440.html
“These channels are 250 meter high. They are almost as tall as the Eiffel tower and stretch hundreds of kilometers along the ice shelf.
The channels are likely to influence the stability of the ice shelf”
Now if i could only bottle it and sell it as”Pure Antarctica Water” i would make a fortune.
my advertising campaign would be ” buy it before the ice melts.”
“drink it before the ice melts”
If you have the time check out Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) links with big insurance. It really does explain their simulated garbage.
Steve Oregon says:
May 5, 2014 at 9:25 am
…For the sake of humanity (and various critters) someone please alert the President!
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Now that’s funny.
This is where a Like button would come in handy.
cn
I wonder how the ice-plug survived the Holocene Climate Optimum (HCO).
There are remains of HCO era seal rookeries in Antarctica located some 10km inland from the ocean. Further, the local HCO temperatures allowed continuous use of the sites nine months per year, as contrasted to three months per year at current ocean-side sites.
Cold in Wisconsin says:
May 5, 2014 at 9:40 am
Will the melting ice keep the ocean from boiling for a few years at least?
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We can only pray.
cn
If this could happen it would have happened during the Medieval Warm Period. Once again they have proven you can’t write a computer simulation to simulate something you don’t understand.
I appreciate the argument made by those protesting against the myriad weasel words. But those are not even the dumbest things quoted. This is the dumbest thing in the abstract “…region of marine ice on rocky ground…”
This reminds me of the epic brain fart from Democrat Congressman Hank Johnson regarding Guam capsizing:
We’re witnessing the death of logic and reason in our generation…..
I can’t can’t find the old reference to those inland rookeries. Worse, I may have mixed-up with GREENLAND. In either case, I apologize,.
Antarctica is dozens of degrees below the melting point of ice so in a mere degree or two warmer world the extra humidity will make it a more effective sea level sink, not a positive contributor, obscure models be damned.
5 to 10 thousand years. Meanwhile if I can get people to believe this alarmist rubbish my importance , salary , career and credibility ” might ” last until I no longer need them.
“The findings are based on computer simulations of the Antarctic ice flow using improved data of the ground profile underneath the ice sheet.”
Well I suppose it is a step up from the old days of chopping the head of a chicken and examining th entrails to predict the future.
But not by much.
Another “Cultist” screams in fear and rage. I wonder if he worries about how much p*ss 6 billion people add to the oceans every year? It might add up to a 3 inches a century. Scary.
“Complete ice discharge from the affected region in East Antarctica takes five thousand to ten thousand years in the simulations. However, once started, the discharge would slowly but relentlessly continue until the whole basin is empty, even if climate warming stopped. “”
Seriously – do the High Priests of Climate science think the no one will ask the simple question –
1) Why did the out of control warming occur beginning with any prior warming period such as the Holcene period
2) If all the methane and other green house gases escaped during prior warming periods, how did in get put back in the ground
3) Do those greenhouse gases have some internal mechanism that tells them to only release into the atmosphere if the warming is caused by Mann (oops ) Man
Some people are called experts and scholars without even having had time to learn basic ground school knowledge…. and they are stupid enough to prove their ignorance of facts. Incredible stupidity shown by the so called experts behind the claim.
Wow, this has me worried.
When was the last time that this cat’s trophy happened? How many times did it happen in the 20th Century ?
Oh! nobody has actually observed it happening yet. How tall will the tsunami wave get, when it all slides off ?
Well with any luck, the floating sea ice, will stop it from sliding off. I wonder if it will slide East or West, when it goes; probably depends on which way the tide is flowing between Atlantic, and Pacific Oceans.
Mickey Reno says:
May 5, 2014 at 11:30 am
I appreciate the argument made by those protesting against the myriad weasel words. But those are not even the dumbest things quoted. This is the dumbest thing in the abstract “…region of marine ice on rocky ground…”
Where exactly do you find that, I’ve read the abstract carefully and don’t see the passage you ‘quote’?
Caution: reading this “report” could start uncontrollable laughter, leading to asphyxia and possible death on a mass scale.
I think I saw that movie already. They need need to get a more creative script if they are going to sell tickets to their latest horror movie..