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Submitted by Eric Worrall
George Leshkevich, a NOAA expert on Great Lakes ice, suggested in an interview that he wouldn’t be surprised if there was ice on Lake Superior in June.
While satellite images show more ice broken up and in smaller floes, there’s “a lot still on the lake,” Leshkevich said.
He said ice on the lake this year compares to 1979 in terms of coverage, with about 67 percent iced over on the comparable date of April 23.
He’s still running the numbers, but 2014 looks like “there’s going to be even more” lingering ice than in 1979. “This year is maybe a record-breaking year.”
The unusually high level of ice cover on the Great Lakes, no doubt caused by global warming, has been causing significant difficulties for local shipping.
h/t IceAgeNow – http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/content/will-lake-superior-still-have-ice-june
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“The unusually high level of ice cover on the Great Lakes, no doubt caused by global warming”
Do these people actually realise how stupid they sound?
Oh please when will “they” just stop this insanity of AGW/CAGW/CC etcetc?
Concentrate on real environmental issues.
When?
Darn that global warming for making ice stay longer on the Great Lakes. It’s worse than we thought.
excellent snark 🙂
So what would happen if we kept all ice breakers tied up at the piers and let Mother Nature take her own course on reducing the ice?
Are we not making things worse (sarc) by breaking it up and accelerating the melt?
We would also save all that nasty CO2 being pumped out by the ships…:)
Global freezing. If the Potomac River, neare the White House, has Ice in May will they call it Global Warming?
This from the article is also noteworthy….
“The surface temperature of the water, once on a warming trend, hasn’t risen in the past two years.”
“The unusually high level of ice cover on the Great Lakes, no doubt caused by global warming”
Do these people actually realise how stupid they sound?
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Think about it for a second. The climate is a complex mechanism. Warmth in one area can certainly cause cold in another, and the reverse. Don’t believe me? Think about the effects of an el nino, which while warming of the globe over all, certainly causes cooler weather in parts of the world.
The problem isn’t the notion itself, but the ad hoc nature of it.
How about we put people on those ice flows and use flame thrower guns to melt the ice? Oh, wait, no! those flame throwers might add to global warming because the fuel they burn causes global warming which leads to summer ice flows on the lakes!
Undercurrents of the NIMBY syndrome from the Villagers here. In My Back Yard its cold. Must be the same worldwide.
“The unusually high level of ice cover on the Great Lakes, no doubt caused by global warming, has been causing significant difficulties for local shipping.”
This statement is not in the article, seems to have been a comment by Anthony?
To follow my previous comment, doesn’t the AGW crowd think that idle steel plants are a good thing? Maybe they should start calling for a ban on ice breaking activities, world wide? (sarc)
But wait, they don’t really want increased ice pack so….nice catch-22.
On local news (Detriot) the other night they were showing video of what the Youppers were calling an Ice-tsunami, the has driven lake Superior ice further ashore than anybody remembers. Of course the Ice on land should melt faster than floating ice, but it’s pretty dramatic seeing ice over a foot thick in May piled up on someones tool shed!
Co2 seems very selective in choosing to warm up some areas of the planet, could easily be mistaken for natural variation imo.
From Steve Goddard.
3 May 2014
“Coldest January-April In US History”
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/05/03/coldest-january-april-in-us-history/
Well all models show that global warming anticipated record ice levels in Antarctica and the Great Lakes. Right?
Climate models are being reconstructed faster than temperature data fabrication.
So much for early Springs in the US.
It looks like Spring snow extent has been recovering in North America in recent years. Here is a graph without 2014 it think. The trend has been heading down since 1967.
http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_seasonal.php?ui_set=namgnld&ui_season=2
#blowtorch
Lake Superior and the ‘ice Tsunami’ – 2 days ago.
http://youtu.be/teOXHz127A0
John says:
May 3, 2014 at 9:34 am
How about we put people on those ice flows and use flame thrower guns to melt the ice? Oh, wait, no! those flame throwers might add to global warming because the fuel they burn causes global warming which leads to summer ice flows on the lakes!
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As a land surveyor in the greater Chicagoland area, where some of the reference points are chiseled into the sidewalks fronting the properties, the use of a butane torch to melt the snow/ice doesn’t work as well as one might think.
The ice turns to water that then just absorbs the heat from the torch (or something).
Over at Steve Goddard’s site is an article about an Austrian rapper dissing AGW. His song is pretty good. It should be cross posted here.
@faboutlaws WUWT is a rap free zone. Not just no, but hell no.
I like this bit.
Not so long ago they were telling us about the hotting up of the Great Lakes. They promised us giant fish soup.
Recently Lake Superior hits highest April level in 16 years!
http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/content/lake-superior-hits-highest-april-level-16-years-1
I get the feeling that if we enter into another ice age, we’ll still be hearing about “Global Warming” is at fault.
Nice spring weather – and pretty normal. 10 inches of snow in the mountains here last night, another 10 or more expected. Three more weeks of skiing in Banff. I am soooo worried about “Climate Change” . No really. Look at Calgary, Alberta this morning: http://tinypic.com/r/2rf4fug/8
Oh, wait. This is normal. Well, off to wax my skis. 😄
Paul Jackson, the correct name is “Yoopers”!
I grew up near the eastern end of Lake Superior and remember standing on the shore on June 1st, 1975. There were piles ice on the beach about 8-10 feet high .
Intelligent talk and no rap, sounds like a great radio station idea Anthony.