Guest essay by Steven Burnett
Back in July I wrote a piece that was published at Wattsupwiththat.com regarding the ocean acidification hypothesis (OA) and some of the issues I had with it. After reading the comments and more importantly reading a rebuttal I went through my equations sheet and found a few errors. Unfortunately life issues ate up a bunch of my time over the fall and winter. I have been lucky to have a break recently from tutoring and the onboarding process for one of the atomic laboratories is a bit slow so I had the time to finish this piece.
I tried to push this project out a few months ago, however some grammatical errors resulted in a request for corrections, and I decided to do an entire rewrite. I chose to delay the submission because of a somewhat disconcerting conclusion I came to after reworking the equations and adding some of the peer reviewed studies. The findings are contained in the second section of the essay, but the synopsis is there is no real way to determine if the increase in atmospheric CO2 is mostly anthropogenic. The same equilibrium relationship that drives the doom and gloom predictions of rising atmospheric CO2, works in reverse if the pH drops below the atmospheric equilibrium value.
This may be one of the strongest arguments against an industrial impact on atmospheric CO2 and for natural forces affecting atmospheric CO2.
It would offer a plausible mechanism between the rise in temperature and the subsequent rise in CO2, even accounting for the lag period as a process response. There are still a variety of calculations that need to be performed but it does offer a reasonable null hypothesis to the idea of anthropogenic emissions being the majority of factor in atmospheric CO2
1. My Mistakes
For large complex systems I typically use PTC’s MathCAD for its excellent ability to display equations in true math format, store variables and carry units. The GUI for this program is simply amazing. The original equation set that I used in the essay was generally correct, however it was developed to look at OA in response to a forum debate I was observing. Because I have yet to receive my big oil check (maybe it bounced), I developed the set as a back of the envelope calculation to evaluate, presented my results and let some of the engineers check my math. It turns out there were some errors they did not catch, so when I wrote this essay and reviewed the equation sheet, it was only a cursory glance, after all it had passed a “peer review”. Here’s what I found on a more thorough investigation.
I mentioned the EPA value for change on ocean temperature as 1.5-1.75 C when in fact it was Fahrenheit. I assumed that all reputable agencies worked with SI units but I was wrong. Truthfully henry’s law constant corrections are not particularly necessary until you approach temperature variances of about 10C. This value was only researched and correction included because I saw a sceptic trying to claim the change in the henry’s law coefficient was what was responsible for changes in atmospheric CO2 concentrations, this is simply false the thermal variance is too small to significantly impact the direction of CO2 flux.
The second issue I found was a complete user error. When entering the unit set I wanted for atmospheric pressure I was thinking in PSI, not sure why I just was, however in the equation I defined it as atmospheres. Thus the partial pressure of CO2 in my systems of equations was increased by a factor of about 15. When evaluating answers we have a general range of value we find acceptable. The multiplication factor produced a value of .001 for pH which was lower than expected but not so low as to automatically reject it. When the error was removed the calculated pH on my equation set fell to a change of about .0001 which is far too low to be reasonable.
So what happened? In short I took a shortcut which is mathematically invalid. Below are the four main equilibrium equations regarding an aqueous system of CO2.
The first equation is henry’s law which represents the equilibrium relationship between the partial pressure of CO2 and dissolved CO2 in water. The second equation describes the hydration equilibrium between dissolved CO2 and carbonic acid. The third equation describes the first dissociation constant of H2CO3 and bicarbonate. The last equation describes the relationship between carbonate and bicarbonate. They don’t look drastically different than the modified versions I was using in the original essay.
The fundamental difference lies in the concentration of hydrogen atoms which is not visible in my original set. I was focused on the relationship between how concentrations of the carbonic substance influence the concentrations of the others. So I removed the hydrogen Ion concentration and inferred it from the change in in concentration of the respective dissociated Ions. I inadvertently set the value of my equilibrium equations to a hydrogen ion concentration of 1. To speak more plainly I didn’t realize I was performing my calculations in a system with an assumed pH of 0. I apologize for my mistake.
The very heart of the issue, and the core of my skepticism with most climatological finger pointing is the lack of data. There are no preindustrial pH measurements (more on this later). Without pre-industrial pH or for that matter any one of the other chemical species we cannot easily determine the equilibrium concentrations of any of the ions. It is also feasible to find a reasonable approximation through some fairly tedious algebra, which I attempted, found a close approximation but likely missed a step in the 3-6 pages of mixed success and derivations. It resolves to a cubic function, from which a root can be found and a second set of equations solved. I will even set up the equations for those who want to play with them.
If we assume the major contributor to hydrogen ion concentration is atmospheric CO2, and if all resultant ions are tied to this then for each H2CO3 that dissociates, the concentration of hydrogen will increased by a total value of x1 which is the same increase in HCO3 concentration. For each subsequent dissociation of HCO3 the concentration of CO3 and hydrogen ions will increase by a total of x2. Thus the total hydrogen will be equal to the initial value plus x1 and x2, x1 and x2 can be negative. The zeroes in the ion concentration designate an initial starting point and the t designates the target period to solve for, enjoy.
That being said we can much more easily approximate a comparable solution by making one more assumption. If the first dissociation is the dominant factor in the production of hydrogen ions, which it is ka1=2.5*10-4and ka2=4.69*10-11, then we can assume that the x2 contribution to hydrogen ions is essentially 0. This gives us a beautiful quadratic which is very easily solved as seen in equation 7 and then 8.
Had I read through the entirety of the Wikipedia and seen the line at the end suggesting that solution I would have saved a few headaches, and trees. I did however come to the same conclusion independently
Under these conditions we can see the relative changes in concentration of the various ionic species. As more CO2 enters the system carbonic acid goes up, hydrogen ion concentration goes up and bicarbonate ions increase at the same rate.
However referencing the carbonate ion concentration, as the relative change in hydrogen ions is much larger than the change in bicarbonate, thus carbonate levels will drop. For example if I doubled the concentration of hydrogen ions, the concentration of carbonate ions will necessarily drop by half to maintain the equilibrium. An increase in concentration of 1*10^-8.2 hydrogen ions is relatively larger than the same increase at a base concentration in the range of 1*10^-4.
So what does this prove? Sadly nothing. This system of equations only describes sterile, filtered seawater in a flask and holds about the same significance on the results as spherical chickens in a vaccuum.
2. What is the model missing?
Unfortunately there are a large number of factors which are simply not accounted for in a flask hypothesis. There is of course the change in relative concentrations of important chemical species from things like biological function, sequestration, or other natural phenomena. These factors mean the flask model only applies at the boundary layer, a hypothetical infinitely thin slice that represents the boundary between the oceans and the atmosphere.
Phytoplankton will consume oceanic CO2 for photosynthesis. Other microscopic organisms will produce different compounds resulting from various metabolic pathways. Many of which can influence pH, such as ammonia, acetic acid, urea and uric acid or even CO2. Larger organisms such as fish are well known to produce ammonia which is exchanged through the gills. Microorganisms and their various proteins, fall to the bottom of the ocean as they die. Permanently sequestering some of the CO2 in various proteins and tissues.
Two recent papers were published on OA and the change of pH. The most recent published paper from December found
“[the] observed annual variability (~0.3 units) and diurnal variability (~0.1 units) in coastal ocean acidity are both similar in magnitude to long-term global ocean projections (~0.2 units) associated with increasing atmospheric CO”1.
This corresponds well with a paper published in 2011 from Scripps that found that even in the generally stable open ocean where pH tracks well with the CO2 hypothesis
“Our observations confirm an annual mean variability in pH at CCE-1 of nearly 0.1, suggest an inter-annual variability of ~0.02 pH, and capture episodic change” and even went further in their abstract stating “The effect of Ocean Acidification (OA) on marine biota is quasi-predictable at best”2.
A third paper Found much the same
“It is important to place these [OA] changes within the context of pH in the present-day ocean, which is not constant; it varies systematically with season, depth and along productivity gradients. Yet this natural variability in pH has rarely been considered in assessments of the effect of ocean acidification on marine microbes.”3
And my personal favorite quote:
“Therefore, an appropriate null hypothesis may be, until evidence is obtained to the contrary, that major biogeochemical processes in the oceans other than calcification will not be fundamentally different under future higher CO2/lower pH conditions“3
Thus while the model depicting OA as a function of CO2 may be relatively accurate, in some sites the interannual variability exceeds predicted changes and most impact studies seem to neglect this. To be clear dramatic variability of the carbonate system endorses the OA theory and its purported negative impacts.
There is however one more issue with the OA hypothesis, and it stems from the same equilibrium equations used for its validation. Up until this point we have proceeded with the assumption that atmospheric CO2 concentration is causing the changes in hydrogen ion concentration. However natural biological, geological, and chemical sources induce a far greater change in hydrogen ion concentration or pH on inter-annual timescales. An increase in hydrogen ion concentration, assuming a large enough carbonate source, will produce an increased equilibrium value for atmospheric CO2.
Thus any factor which increases the mean of biological activity, will necessarily increase the mean of CO2 in the atmosphere. Any increase in mean CO2, through this mechanism, will result in a relative decrease of radiocarbon (C14) in the atmosphere due to the marine reservoir effect. A mean change in biological activity can be brought about through increases in total solar irradiance, global mean temperature increases, or other unknown factors
Not only is it almost impossible to determine the true effect of anthropogenic emissions on OA, it becomes very difficult to separate anthropogenic carbon sources from oceanic ones in regards to the isotopic concentration in the atmosphere. Without good data on this variance the calculations for global carbon balances may be biased. The same conclusion was found in this 2013 paper
“we detected a mean difference between the boundary layer and 5 m pCO2 of 13 ± 1 µatm. Temperature gradients accounted for only 11% of this pCO2 gradient in the top meters of the ocean; thus, pointing to a heterogeneous biological activity underneath the air-sea boundary layer as the main factor controlling the top meters pCO2 variability. Observations of pCO2 just beneath the air-sea boundary layer should be further investigated in order to estimate possible biases in calculating global air-sea CO2 fluxes.”4
This is not to say such factors invalidate the theory of OA or anthropogenic emissions, it simply means that they have not been investigated sufficiently to rule them out.
3. What about demonstrable harm?
One of the other criticisms found in the rebuttal related to my statements regarding demonstration of harm. Specifically I stated that if they want to claim there is some sort of harm imposed by OA they need to perform an experiment, and they hadn’t. In the rebuttal there is a list of experiments theoretically showing harm as the result of increased CO2. I highly recommend reviewing them if you get a chance.
I clearly should have clarified my statement. It’s not that no experiment regarding CO2 and OA had been performed, I had already gone through the abstracts of most of his citations, I took issue with their validity. I already addressed in the previous section inherent ecological variability, but there are far more problems with this series of studies than simple ecological variance.
First within a water column there is a pH variance and pH sensitive organisms such as Ophiothrix Fragilis choose to live within their pH optimum. From Dupont et al
“During the period of May to September, the pH in gullmars fjord decreases with depth (ranging from 8.33 and 7.97), but never falls below 8.03 in the upper 30m where ophiothrix fragilis larvae are concentrated”
In this case they tested conditions at a pH of 8.1, 7.9 and 7.7 assuming a delta pH of -.2 and -.4. From their quote regarding the natural habitat of the species, again ignoring ecological variability, the lowest value they should have been testing is a pH of about 7.93.You cannot forcibly change the pH in a controlled system with a sensitive organism and claim significant results when the natural environment has variability that exceeds the control parameters for the experiment.
Secondly in almost all cases the studies evaluated the organisms over a very short time span, typically 6-8 weeks. This is not the same as evaluating a stable colony, nor is it akin to studying the adaptability of a species to a change in conditions. For calcifiers the ability to regulate pH at the site of calcification is important to their ability to calcify. The time to ramp up synthesis of required compounds to maintain a high pH at calcification sites may exceed the period of study. While calcification rates may decrease this is not the same as shell dissolution as was alluded to in the NOAA video.
A study evaluating the ability of 18 different organisms to calcify under varying pCO2 conditions found that in 10 cases, when the solution was under saturated with aragonite calcification rates dropped. For 7 of the species calcification rates actually increased with moderate pCO2 and for 3 of the 7 they received the highest calcification rate at a pCO2 reflecting 2856ppm. The study concluded
“whatever the specific mechanisms involved, our results suggest that the impact of pCO2 on marine calcification is more varied than previously thought”6
Simply put you cannot take a system which neglects: temporal, generational, ecological and habitat based variables and apply those results, no matter how significant, to a system which does experience these effects. Like I mentioned before, there have been no studies performed which demonstrate harm from OA.
Furthermore this ignores the fact that calcifiers originally evolved under very high pCO2 >6000ppm conditions. In the rebuttal this point was conceded with a response that adaptation and evolution to such rapidly changing conditions is not possible. While I could not find the referenced work. I would contend that it is factually incorrect. While the time necessary for the evolution of an entirely new species would likely exceed the period of time over which OA is going to occur, a response to the changing chemistry, which marine calcifiers already have to handle yearly variation is not unlikely.
It is certainly not unprecedented. The finches of the Galapagos have been shown to alter beak sizing as a response to drought or competition.
“From 1972 to 2001,Geospiza Fortis (medium ground finch) and Geospiza Scandens (cactus finch) changed several times in body size and two beak traits. Natural selection occurred frequently in both species and varied from unidirectional to oscillating, episodic to gradual. Hybridization occurred repeatedly though rarely, resulting in elevated phenotypic variances in G. Scandens and a change in beak shape.”7
We also learned of the effect of cars on a species of swallow in southwestern Nebraska, influencing the length of their wings in less than 30 years8. There is of course the incidence of the bacteria, discovered in 1975 evolving a unique enzyme to digest nylon, which wasn’t invented until 1935. There is even evidence of fish size, change and reproductive maturity varying as a result of our fishing regulations.
Frankly neither the pH range nor the time frame for OA seems to be outside natural variation. There is also ample evidence that more significant physiological changes can happen in shorter time frames. At the end of the day, before we get all hot and bothered by OA we need to sit back and acknowledge that the species in contention not only show a wider reaction range than is commonly presented, but that whatever their method for calcification is, they simply need to increase the metabolic rates, or the mean metabolic rate of the species through natural selection, to adapt to changing oceanic conditions.
4. Clearly There Must be Some Amazing Data Supporting the Hypothesis.
In the first essay I mentioned several points of contentions with the OA hypothesis. I have addressed my core mistakes and gone into the details and quibbles I have with the rebuttal. But there was one point I made in the original essay which was never touched on in the rebuttal. There is almost no data backing up the OA hypothesis.
As a refresher course on the history of pH; it was conceived of originally in 1909. It was later revised in 1924 to accommodate measurement by electrochemical cells. It wasn’t until 1936 that the first commercial pH meters were available. In the 1970’s the first portable pH meter was released. So if all of the major development in pH meters occurred in the 1900’s and the concept of pH wasn’t even thought up until 1909 how do we get the following graphic
From Wikipedia :Estimated change in sea water pH caused by human created CO2 between the 1700s and the 1990s, from the Global Ocean Data Analysis Project (GLODAP) and the World Ocean Atlas
An engineer showed me that graphic during a debate over the summer regarding CO2 and OA. I love it, it’s a beautiful graphic, and it is entirely farcical. Luckily the tag on Wikipedia mentions that it is the estimated sea change. Unfortunately most people don’t understand the difference between a calculated value and a measured one as demonstrated by the first table on the Wikipedia page for ocean acidification. Note the field result stated next to pre-industrial levels, luckily this has been amended to reflect this is not in the citation given.
To really understand how strong of an argument there is for OA we have to look at the data. The very first worldwide composite of pH data for the oceans came from the GLODAP project. The goal was to establish a climatology for the world’s oceans. This is not an easy endeavor and I do respect the attempt but the result is frankly untrustworthy. While it did define an oceanic pH value in the 1990’s it did so with some gaping holes in its analysis.
Wikipedia describes some of the missing areas as the arctic ocean, the Caribbean sea, the Mediterranean sea and maritime southeast Asia. However on their own website they state
“Anthropogenic CO2 was estimated for the Indian (Sabine et al. 1999), Pacific (Sabine et al. 2002), and Atlantic (Lee et al. 2003) basins individually as the data were synthesized.”
More specifically the entire purpose of the analysis was to estimate the amount of stored anthropogenic carbon. They estimate the uncertainty on this value to be 16% of the total inventory.
With a large part of the ocean completely unsampled, and certainly lacking regular pH measurement effort, what other data is available then? The short answer is none. Unfortunately pH measurements and instrumentation require constant calibration which is not easily performed in long autonomous measurements. The 2009 document from the scientific committee on oceanic research states
“If one is to get a detailed picture of ocean acid base chemistry, they need to be measured precisely with a low uncertainty, but to date such low uncertainties have not been demonstrated for oceanic pH measurements”9
The core of my skepticism in AGW and more specifically the catastrophic elements is always questionable data. This is no different for ocean acidification and the purported claims.
5. Conclusions
After finishing my research and corrections, I was certainly able to corroborate the numerical consensus regarding pH changes as a function of CO2 concentration. However the correction did little to curb my skepticism of an anthropogenic ocean acidification hypothesis and the purported harms. There are simply too many false assumptions required for the idea to play out through its mathematical model.
The same problems arise between small and large ballistics modeling. For lower speeds and shorter distances it is easy to neglect air resistance and get an approximate answer. But for longer distances or higher velocities we end up having to take into account air resistance. The current approach to modeling OA and organism adaptability is akin to trying to understand flight while neglecting lift and concluding it is impossible.
There is direct contrarian evidence to the idea that marine pH is dependent on CO2. pH changes regularly in the ocean, to a greater magnitude than the anticipated effect of CO2 and in a shorter period of time. The ability of an organism to adapt to changing conditions is a huge variable between species, and the ability to adapt over a period of time has not been studied.
Beyond these factors there simply has not been a solid organized long term study of oceanic pH to validate any of the claims. As is frequent in climate science we see gorgeous model visualizations rather than actual data, and we see claims rather than facts.
Outside of these significant factors there is another aspect of OA which frankly needs more research. The fact that pH changes in response to biological activity, begs the question whether humankind is fully to blame for the increase in atmospheric CO2. Any factor that increases the activity of marine life, must necessarily increase the rate of flux of marine CO2 into the atmosphere.
References
1. “Dramatic Variability of the Carbonate System at a Temperate Coastal Ocean Site (Beaufort, North Carolina) is Regulated by Physical and Biogeochemical Processes on Multiple Timescales,” by Zackary I. Johnson, Benjamin J. Wheeler, Sara K. Blinebry, Christina M. Carlson, Christopher S. Ward, Dana E. Hunt. PLOS ONE, Dec. 17, 2013. DOI:10.1371/journal.pone.0085117
2.Hofmann GE, Smith JE, Johnson KS, Send U, Levin LA, et al. (2011) High-Frequency Dynamics of Ocean pH: A Multi-Ecosystem Comparison. PLoS ONE 6(12): e28983. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0028983
3. Joint, Ian, Scott C. Doney, and David M. Karl. “Will Ocean Acidification Affect Marine Microbes?” The ISME Journal (2010): n. pag. Print.
4. Calleja, Maria Ll., Carlos M. Duarte, Marta Álvarez, Raquel Vaquer-Sunyer, Susana Agustí, and Gerhard J. Hernd. “Prevalence of Strong Vertical CO2 and O2 Variability in the Top Meters of the Ocean.” Global Biogeochemical Cycles 27.3 (2013): 941-49. Print.
5. Dupont, S., J. Havenhand, W. Thorndyke, L. Peck, and M. Thorndyke. “Near-future Level of CO2-driven Ocean Acidification Radically Affects Larval Survival and Development in the Brittlestar Ophiothrix Fragilis.” Marine Ecology Progress Series 373 (2008): 285-94. Print.
6. Ries, J. B., A. L. Cohen, and D. C. McCorkle. “Marine Calcifiers Exhibit Mixed Responses to CO2-induced Ocean Acidification.” Geology 37.12 (2009): 1131-134. Print.
7.Grant, Peter R., and Rosemary Grant. “Unpredictable Evolution in a 30-Year Study of Darwin’s Finches.” Science 296.5568 (2002): 707-11. Print.
8. Brown, Charles R., and Mary B. Brown. “Where Has All The Roadkill Gone.” Current Biology 23.6 (2013): 233-34. Print.
9. Report of Ocean Acidification and Oxygen Working Group. Scientific Committee on Oceanic Research, 2009. Web. 24 Jan. 2014. http://www.scor-int.org/OBO2009/A&O_Report.pdf
How about a nice little top-down model to look at our question.
We have added ~150 BMTC to the ocean sink since 1850. That sink is ~38,000 BMTC, with ~2000 BMTC or so in the upper layer.
That should allow us to calculate % of Hydrogen ions.
We also have to consider that ocean acidification is said to have commenced around 1750, but it is not until two centuries later that CO2 is going to have any measurable impact. So that acidification until 1950 cannot have been CO2. Possibly drainage, dredging and dumping. Those factors would certainly apply now in some areas of the world.
Henry Clark says:
April 27, 2014 at 11:24 am
I suppose that I have convinced Dr. Spencer that the increase of CO2 indeed is man-made…
There is a longer reaction of mine on the work of Steven Burnett under moderation, but there is a long line of arguments that all show that humans are the source of the increase. See:
http://www.ferdinand-engelbeen.be/klimaat/co2_measurements.html#The_mass_balance
It needs some update, but as human emissions fit all observations and all alternatives I have heard of violate one or more observations, it is quite clear that humans are the cause.
If that has much effect on temperature, that is the multi-billion dollar question which need real answers, not based on failed climate models…
although there is another side to it as seen in quite a series of comments by Ferdinand Engelbeen
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And as Ferdinand “almost” argues….you can’t green the planet, increase farming, increase fertilizer, increase irrigation, increase tilling, etc….without have more vegetation decay.. .without also feeding the aerobic/anaerobic (anoxic) interface….without creating more habitat for denitrifying bacteria
look at this and you’ll find all of your “missing” c12
Thank you for this thorough look at the question.
You say variation in Henry’s law coefficient is negligible over the temperature ranges involved. Citing EPA figures of global averages with heavy low-pass filtering.
“Truthfully henry’s law constant corrections are not particularly necessary until you approach temperature variances of about 10C. ”
Surely air-ocean are near instantaneous and looking at heavily filtered global averages really does not inform about the relevant range of the variables.
” Any factor that increases the activity of marine life, must necessarily increase the rate of flux of marine CO2 into the atmosphere.”
Now there clearly is a component of d/dt(atm_CO2) that is directly proportional to SST.
http://climategrog.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=720
http://climategrog.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=719
Can you reconcile those graphs with the explanation given in the article?
regards, Greg.
Just another in case is may be informative to the discussion:
http://climategrog.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=721
Ferdinand Engelbeen says:
April 27, 2014 at 11:43 am
“There is a longer reaction of mine on the work of Steven Burnett under moderation, but there is a long line of arguments that all show that humans are the source of the increase. See: http://www.ferdinand-engelbeen.be/klimaat/co2_measurements.html#The_mass_balance“
Ah, so you are still around as a poster, now as well as 6 years ago. Excellent.
I see the 9:55am post of yours has appeared now and, like your link, is good reading.
Ferdinand Engelbeen says:
April 27, 2014 at 11:43 am
I suppose that I have convinced Dr. Spencer that the increase of CO2 indeed is man-made…
If that has much effect on temperature, that is the multi-billion dollar question which need real answers, not based on failed climate models…
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Have you reviewed the NIPCC report summaries of many peer reviewed publications on just this issue? There is, I dare say, as much, if not more, evidence that the increase of anthropogenic CO2 is likely net positive.
This section pertains to marine life. http://www.nipccreport.org/reports/ccr2b/pdf/Chapter-6-Aquatic-Life.pdf
Hi there!
So first and most important of all, there is an important naming issue:
The about 150GtC anthropogenic CO2 cannot have a significant effect on the oceans already containing about 36000GtC (plus being in equilibrium with the sediments containing about 3 orders more CO2), thus the oceans do not accidify due to anthropogenic inlfuence, but if at all the sea surface waters.
Anthropogenic ocean acidification is not possible, anthropogenic Ocean surface acidification (containing about 900GtC and being in almost equilibrium with the atmosphere) is at debate.
I think it is important to make this difference in the scientific literature, because it seems to confuse untrained readers!
As for the mass balance argument..
Well now that we are talking about a rather small part of the oceans (the upper 1% or less) and it is in contact with much larger reservoirs (water circulation, near shore sediments and organic CO2 deposition for example), we can only observe that the coupling constants are not kwon with sufficient precission!
In other words: As long as models cannot predict the precise amount of deep water upwelling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upwelling
and give reasons that make it believable that the transported amounts are known for the changes in ocean currents following the little ice age, the mass balance argument is flawed.
I liked that paper linked in this article and suggest all readers to have a look:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3105673/
“In conclusion, CO2 and pH in the surface ocean are not, and never have been, constant. ”
A proper mass balance argument must be precise enough to follow these changes of the past, otherwise it is useless!
Henry Clark says:
April 27, 2014 at 10:57 am
Admittedly, commonly shown CO2 reconstructions based on ice cores do seem to be wrong, so the debate can’t be conclusively concluded by just linking
CO2 from ice cores is quite reliable (+/- 1.2 ppmv within the same core, +/- 5 ppmv between different cores), but the main problem is the resolution: as in your comparison of the Greenland core temperature reconstruction and the Dome C CO2 levels, the averaging for CO2 is ~560 years, more frequent sampling doesn’t give a better resolution. The resolution is the average time the pores are open to the atmosphere before the air bubbles are fully isolated from the atmosphere. That depends of the accumulation rate, which is very low at the inland cores like Dome C and Vostok. The advantage is that these cores go back up to 800 kyears. The coastal cores have a much better resolution (less than a decade for 2 of 3 Law Dome cores), but go back only 150 years for the best resolution.
Despite this disadvantage, the ice cores overlap each other so that a nice CO2 (and CH4) trend can be seen:
http://www.ferdinand-engelbeen.be/klimaat/klim_img/antarctic_cores_010kyr.jpg
From the past, we know that the temperature influence on pre-industrial CO2 levels was about 8 ppmv/K over the ice c\ages, even over the MWP-LIA temperature change (of ~0.8 K):
http://www.ferdinand-engelbeen.be/klimaat/klim_img/law_dome_1000yr.jpg
The Law Dome DSS core has a resolution of ~20 years and goes back some 1000 years, as it was drilled more downslope than the other two cores.
David A says:
April 27, 2014 at 12:15 pm
This section pertains to marine life.
Indeed, interesting literature. I had already read about the large changes in pH within a day inside the Great Barrier Reef and the increase of coral growth over the past 50 years. So I didn’t worry too much about the dire predictions of failed climate models, but that is a lot of up to date information…
Ferdinand, I have usually been given to understand that the accessible air spaces in the firn remain open for several decades longer than ~20years. Is this view now revised? And, if so, for what reasons?
michael hart says:
April 27, 2014 at 12:42 pm
Ferdinand, I have usually been given to understand that the accessible air spaces in the firn remain open for several decades longer than ~20years.
Depends of the accumulation rate. The two high resolution Law Dome ice cores have an ice equivalent precipitation of 1.2 m/year. At a depth of ~72 m the bubbles start to close. At that moment the ice is about 40 years old, the average gas age then is average 7 years older than at the atmosphere. The gas distribution thus is 50% younger than 7 years and 50% older, which has a long tail, up to 40 years, but most is within 10 years around the average.
The air/CO2 age distribution was calculated, as that depends of firn density (= pore diameter) for the migration speed and confirmed by in-situ measurements. See fig.11 in:
http://courses.washington.edu/proxies/GHG.pdf
There are two parts of the CAGW and ocean acidification story which flatly contradict each other.
The total mass of CO2 in the atmosphere is about one millionth of the mass of the ocean. Thus the only way that enough CO2 from the atmosphere could make a significant difference to ocean pH (even setting aside the chemical obstacles to this happening) is of the turnover and loss of CO2 from the atmosphere is fast.
But here the problem arises because the CAGW camp is committed to very slow CO2 turnover with a very long atmosphere lifetime for other ideological reasons.
They are trying to have their cake and eat it. The same CO2 is being asked to simultaneously stay in the atmosphere and also acidify the ocean. There is simply not enough CO2 for this. For any hypothetical chance of ocean acidification there has to be fast cycling of CO2 from the atmosphere, but this the CAGW camp cannot accept since their CO2 hellfire and damnation need to be eternal or at least persist for centuries or millenia.
Maybe CAGW is invoking quantum mechanics with a CO2 molecule having an entangled double life in the atmosphere and the ocean at the same time.
Hi Guys,
I do appreciate the read and wanted to reply to some of the things I saw.
First I by no means believe or support that mankind has had no impact on the increasing CO2, my statement is not nor should it be construed as an all or nothing. As it stands the equilibria relationships and marine reservoir effect would mimic the isotope ratio shift in the event that a mean increase in biological activity occurred. Humanities emissions every year amount to somewhere between 3-5% of global sources. the ocean contributes far more, something on the order of 10 or so times that of mankind’s emissions. It’s not that we haven’t contributed to the increase, I am sure we have but claiming we are solely or mostly responsible is a very long stretch, It makes the assumption that everything is balanced and the biosphere cant possibly absorb the CO2. I find it equally likely that we are the primary or sole cause of the net change, as that we are responsible for none of it.
In response to Ferdinand Engelbeen’s comments regarding DIC and the increase or decrease in response to biolife. I don’t disagree, unfortunately your data disagrees with you. Fig. 1 of the PNAS article you linked Presents the surface measurements of pH as a function of DIC. For the top two layers DIC is going down in the bottom layer it is going up, consistent with a buffered pH decrease. While it does show the pCO2 of the atmosphere being higher than the pCO2 of the oceans most of the time, it is in fact only one site and an ecologically unique location. So while we can certainly say this site might be a sink we can also say there is a visible increase in mean biological activity.
http://www.pnas.org/content/106/30/12235.full.pdf
This is not in any way reflective of other sites like the arctic, which large changes in biological production in the summer months and almost no absorption in the winter months. Nor does it reflect areas where there is a convergence of fresh and saltwater.
Like I mentioned this would be plausible mechanism by which we can see an increase in CO2 via natural sources. At this time we don’t have sufficient data to prove or disprove the hypothesis.
George.E.Smith, on measuring gases, the difference between ppm by mass and ppm by volume is just accounting. But because the ideal gas equation applies at most atmospheric conditions, it is more convenient to do volume accounting. For instance, an analyzer might use a fixed volume loop, typically on the order of 1 mL, as the basis for measurement. This is easier to handle, than say measuring the mass of such as small sample size (one doesn’t have to worry about buoyancy, etc. Further, one can blend two or more gases dynamically by combining measured flow rates of those gases, which is also easy to determine. One can fix one flow rate and vary the second over a wide span for calibration, etc. It is more difficult and requires more specialized equipment to combine gases in a cylinder and weigh them (although this can as is done).
Hoser says:
April 27, 2014 at 10:22 am
“You were going down a fruitful path with biological responses, and then you left it. People forget about biology, and that’s often where chemists and physicists go awry when they deal with processes on Earth”
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Right you are, and case in point is the generally accepted explanation for the bi-yearly cycling of atmospheric CO2 ppm, which for the past 56 years, measurements have determined that is has increased an average of 8 ppm during the Northern Hemisphere fall/winter months of October thru March …. and decreased an average of 6 ppm during the spring/summer months of May thru September, thus resulting in an average yearly increase of 2 ppm.
Thus the generally accepted explanation for the above is: 1) the 2 ppm average annual increase in CO2 is a direct result of increases in human emissions; 2) the bi-annual average decrease of 6 ppm during the spring/summer months is a direct result of biomass growth in the Northern Hemisphere; and 3) the bi-annual average increase of 6 ppm during the fall/winter months is a direct result of dead biomass decomposition (rotting/decaying) in the Northern Hemisphere;
Now the above sounds fine and dandy, …… but, in my opinion, number 1) is highly questionable.
And biologically speaking, numbers 2) and 3) are highly improbable if not impossible accusations ….. simply because the rotting and decaying of dead biomass is highly dependent upon moisture (liquid water) and temperature.
The spring/summer is optimum time for the rotting and decaying of dead biomass because there is adequate moisture and surface temperatures are above 60 F. Bacteria, yeasts and fungi thrive in said conditions.
The fall/winter is not conducive to the rotting and decaying of dead biomass because of the normally dry conditions during the months of September and October. Bacteria, yeasts and fungi DO NOT thrive in dry conditions.
Dried foods (biomass) will keep for several years.
When fall/winter temperatures are below 60F, the rotting and decaying of biomass is severely affected. When said temperatures are below 42 F then the rotting and decaying of biomass is severely restricted. When said temperatures are below 32 F then the rotting and decaying of biomass is pretty much non-existent.
Cellar house or cooler kept foods (biomass) will keep for several days.
Refrigerated foods (biomass) will keep for several weeks.
Frozen foods (biomass) will keep for several years.
Bacteria, yeasts and fungi produce very little to no CO2 during cool, cold and/or frozen conditions. They abide by the Refrigerator/Freezer Law of Biomass Decomposition …. and the USDA recommends that you abide by it also. And Public Health Departments demand that public entities strictly abide by it.
The steady and consistent 56 consecutive years of bi-yearly cycling of atmospheric CO2 ppm is in dire need of a better explanation.
phlogiston says:
April 27, 2014 at 3:35 pm
There are two parts of the CAGW and ocean acidification story which flatly contradict each other.
The two parts are not in contradiction if you make a distinction between the ocean’s “mixed layer”, the upper few hundred meters of the oceans, and the deeper oceans. The mixed layer and the atmosphere are in close contact with each other and exchange CO2 by wind and convection within a year half life time. The ocean currents that are exchanged between the mixed layer (and the atmosphere) and the deep oceans are much more limited.
Both the atmosphere and the mixed layer have about the same CO2 content: resp. 800 and 1000 GtC. But the 30% increase in the atmosphere only induces a 3% increase in the mixed layer, due to the Revelle/buffer effect. But that is enough to lower the pH somewhat…
The exchanges with the deep oceans and vegetation are a lot slower: not the seasonal exchanges (which are enormous), but these are quite fixed in quantity and temperature dependent. Any excess CO2 in the atmosphere will go down in the deep oceans (and vegetation) as a result of the extra CO2 pressure increase in the atmosphere, but that is only halve the amount humans emit per year…
Steven Burnett says:
April 27, 2014 at 3:38 pm
It makes the assumption that everything is balanced and the biosphere cant possibly absorb the CO2…
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Which common sense tells you if CO2 can drop from the thousands to the 200’s…the sinks are no where near full and no amount of CO2 produced by man could ever fill them or could ever accumulate…
Something else is making CO2 levels rise…something is making the sinks release CO2
…I think it’s biology
Sam,
Well said.
v/r,
David Riser
Steven Burnett says:
April 27, 2014 at 3:38 pm
Fig. 1 of the PNAS article you linked Presents the surface measurements of pH as a function of DIC. For the top two layers DIC is going down in the bottom layer it is going up, consistent with a buffered pH decrease.
The figure shows the (calculated and measured) pH trend, not the DIC trend. If DIC increases (as is mentioned in the text further on), the pH decreases… That also shows that the DIC increase is solely in the upper layers and not caused by biolife, because that would decrease DIC in the uppermost layer near the surface and increase it in the intermediate layer.
Further there are now over two million measurements from a lot of places over many oceans, from ships surveys and buoys. That shows that the average pCO2(atm) is higher than the average pCO2(aq). The compilation of the first near-million measurements is here:
http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/pubs/outstand/feel2331/mean.shtml
Last but not least: the much higher 13C/12C ratio of ocean CO2 simply excludes the oceans as source of the extra CO2 while the 13C/12C ratio of the atmosphere and ocean surface layer goes down in lockstep with the release of fossile CO2…
Samuel C Cogar says:
April 27, 2014 at 4:10 pm
That the biosphere is responsible for the seasonal swings is proven: the oxygen and 13C/12C ratio go up and down together with the CO2 variation: in spring oxygen goes up while total CO2 goes down (around the upgoing trend) and the 13C/12C ratio goes up, because the preferential use of 12CO2 by growing plants. The opposite happens in fall. While much debris is decayed over longer term (somewhat more in summer than in winter), a lot of chemicals like leaf parts are easely broken down within weeks. Over a winter, even under snow, a whole pile of composting material can shrink to halve its size… And measurements in Alaska did show a lot of CO2 release from under the snowdeck even at -40 C…
Further, there is less land/forest in the SH than in the NH and there is far less seasonal variation in the SH…
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R. Shearer says:
April 27, 2014 at 3:53 pm
George.E.Smith, on measuring gases, the difference between ppm by mass and ppm by volume is just accounting. But because the ideal gas equation applies at most atmospheric conditions, it is more convenient to do volume accounting. For instance, an analyzer might use a fixed volume loop, typically on the order of 1 mL, as the basis for measurement. …..”””””
So if I collect 1 ml of atmosphere at roughly sea level at STP, and I remove all the CO2 molecules, and none of any other non-CO2 molecules, and then adjust the T&P of the CO2 sample to STP, I would expect about 1/2500 of a ml, which is about 737 micron, and if I wanted to measure that to about 0.1 ppm, since that is the order of the data plotted for ML, how do I measure such a small volume, so accurately.
But I’m more concerned about how I get all of the CO2 molecules out of the 1 ml, and not even one, of any other species.
I would place a whole lot more credibility in a specification of the relative molecular abundance, rather than any relative volumes.
Ferdinand Engelbeen says:
April 27, 2014 at 4:11 pm
“Any excess CO2 in the atmosphere will go down in the deep oceans (and vegetation) as a result of the extra CO2 pressure increase in the atmosphere, but that is only halve the amount humans emit per year…”
Here we have a local example of unexpected upwelling affecting the surface of the oceans , where the opposite is happening, the reason for the bad oyster harvest described here:
http://e360.yale.edu/feature/northwest_oyster_die-offs_show_ocean_acidification_has_arrived/2466/
is not anthropogenic, would you agree?
In this case we have a local acidification of which would be driven by an ocean current and within a short time span it will be in near equilibrium with the atmosphere.
Looking at a slightly larger piece of the oceans, then your precious mass balance will also be valid for any given time, while the reason for this local acidification is still not anthropogenic.
In my opinion this real example disqualifies the mass product as an example as long as natural fluxes (and fluctuations) are known and predictable.
May I repeat my pledge for a precise language and to make a difference between ocean acifidication and ocean surface acidification!
Anthropogenic ocean acidification is not possible, anthropogenic ocean surface acidification (containing about 900GtC and being in almost equilibrium with the atmosphere) is at the debate.
Thank you for this excellent article. I feel somewhat vindicated for this article http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/27/dallas-cowboys-stadium-seating-and-atmospheric-co2/
and those who claim that there is “proof” that most of the rise in atmospheric CO2 since the mid 1800s was anthropogenic (man-made).
For all that we should sceptical about many of the claims made in support of CAGW theory, no-one is going to persuade me that we’re not contributors of CO2 to the atmosphere…
At 2:07 AM on 28 April, Pete Brown had earnestly written:
Are you susceptible to persuasion on this issue at all? If that’s the case, be persuaded that the CAGW conjecture (which has never risen to the level of “hypothesis,” much less “theory,” in terms of methodological rigor) had been preposterous ab ovo, and that those who keep trying to peddle it – even today, 17 years into the “pause” and getting on to five years after the first Climategate exposures confirmed the long-held suspicions of the “climate consensus” moral turpitude and ethical bankruptcy – have not only failed to provide the levels of evidentiary support required when so plainly contrafactual a contention is advanced but also to address the deliberate evasion of error-checking that has raddled their methods of investigation.
Beyond that, of course, there’s no argument that purposeful human action doesn’t contribute to atmospheric CO2 content, but rather the absence of evidence that this particular source of atmospheric CO2 (trivial as it truly is, in comparison to CO2 emissions wholly and forevermore beyond human causation or control) has had – or could ever have – any significant climatological impact whatsoever.
Zip. Nada. Bupkis. Squat. Blank-o-la. Not there. Tooth fairy and Santa Claus and Soebarkah’s birth certificate. Not just “can’t find it” but “never happened.”
Not even a circumstantial connection. And the more we look into it, the better honest men can appreciate that circumstantiality didn’t really happen all that much, either.
You’re not being asked to take up pitchforks and torches and hot tar and poultry offal en route to Collegetown, PA, and the lair of Hide-the-Divide Mann.
Of course, someone with a decent regard for the scientific method wouldn’t have to be asked.