Sandi says in Tips and Notes:
You Tube has the Show Time full Premiere episode of “Years of Living Dangerously” documentary.
(about an hour 59:08)
Also see the Years of Living Dangerously website:
http://yearsoflivingdangerously.com/
The first 10 minutes was about all I could watch for now, but really, I think all this will do is polarize the public more.
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Let’s hope it has as much ‘ success’ as the 10:10 splatter fest video , which in case we forget had big money and big names behind it too.
It is not a documentary it is a docudrama. Total propaganda from a bunch
Of loons.
Where is the sick bucket?
Anticipating yet another Crockumentary, with ever more escalating Climateering, I reserved the hashtag #CameronLies back in December when I heard about the movie “Years of Living Dangerously”. Suggested usage on Twitter is something like Claim: xxxx Data Says: yyyyy #CameronLies
hashtag #CameronLies: http://www.hashtags.org/definition/cameronlies/#answer-245219
Only tangentially related by alarmist propaganda, I am travelling and took the opportunity to walk the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry. Some time was saved by my intolerance of its agit-prop exhibitions.
I took my family to Chicago and visited the Museum of Science and Industry. I was amazed at how much less intellectually challenging the presentations had become since I last visited in the early 90’s. Too much hype and entertainment, too little science.
1.35 minutes in to the scarementary, flying fossil fuel consuming peace jets are collecting air samples. What ever happened to balloons? Sorry, it’s too obvious of what’s coming up next.
All those fossil fuels squandered on telling us how bad squandering fossil fuels has been.
… I’m sure the producers bought some “carbon credits” to offset their “footprint”… just like they did with An Inconvenient Truth.
Years of Living Dangerously, with Michael C. Hall????? There’s a certain Dexteresque humor to that…..
Seriously, if the general public had any idea whatsoever on how much gas and diesel it takes to make an epic like this, they’d be outraged at the hypocrisy. I mean, just the craft service generator alone.
Syrian war and islamic terrorism are all traceable back to climate change. Surprise. I think that a couple of dead civilians were specifically traced back to the emissions from a Nissan I used to drive in the early 80’s in fact…
Years of Giving Languorously (Public Finance edition) coming soon. Hoho.
John Abrahams was waxing lyrical about the programme in the Guardian yesterday, calling it a “Global Warming Blockbuster”!!!
In reality the first episode is a strange melange of three themes.
Firstly, an Evangelical Christian climate scientist (Kathrene Hayhoe) attempting to persuade Texan Baptists that the drought in Texas is not the hand of God, but the result of God giving mankind the freedom to make mistakes which have lead to global warming and the drought. (Hmmm.)
Secondly, the corporate corruption and Government incompetance in Indonesia that is leading to deforestation, that will increase in atmospheric CO2. (Job for the UN if ever there was one)
Thirdly, the horrific bloodbath in Syria and the revelation that it was mainly triggered by Climate Change causing a prolonged drought. ( Wow, not sectarianism, ruthless authoritarian Government, appalling mismanagement of water resources, but CLIMATE CHANGE! ) For a better balanced analysis see http://www.filmon.com/tv/api/channel/14?session_key=2a2ba08523247d5151e3f2daa4c8aefb&quality=low
Not really on the subject. But I remember an excellent movie with a similar name (The Year of Living Dangerously) starring a young Mel Gibson and Sigourney Weaver. I think I would rather watch this movie again than Years of Living Dangerously
Wow. It is like they don’t realize that Texas and Syria are a part of the Northern Hemisphere’s Desert Belt. http://weathersavvy.com/Q-Climate_DesertsFormed.html — John M Reynolds
I’ve been trying to watch it, but the level of stupid is so strong that I can feel my brain shrinking by the second. The target audience would have to have the cranial capacity approaching that of an imbecile to believe any of it. Lots of appeals to emotion, and attempts at tying weather disasters of all kinds to manmade climate change. They seem particularly fond of using droughts, and then claiming how much worse they’ll get. The use of Hollywood actors to promote this garbage is both sickening and outrageous.
I’ve gotten as far as the part about deforestation due to demand for palm oil. Funny how they skip the part that a big reason for the increased demand was for biofuels, which are only in demand due to climate alarmism. Anyway, their “concern” stems solely from the CO2 being released in the process, which is mind-bogglingly stupid. It’s as if they view CO2 as some sort of poisonous gas poisoning our atmosphere.
I watched the whole 60 minutes. Basically its a series of current affairs stories that try and make out that the arch reason behind everything is a changing climate. The links they make are weak and tenuous and undone by some of their own commentary “droughts have always happened”. But the case for the link to these climatic events being human induced is almost completely absent. If that was the first episode I think they are in trouble. Overall very far from convincing re. any link to human induced warming. I don’t think I can be bothered to watch any more … too boring.
Should be the years of living safely,
deaths from extreme weather down 95% since the 1920’s.
Weather Underground’s Jeff Masters is really plugging it:
Among the gushing platitudes are gems like:
“The science is excellent, provided by climate science experts like Heidi Cullen, Michael Mann, Katharine Hayhoe, James Hansen, and Joe Romm.”
I haven’t watched it but i heard Harrison Ford was at NASA headquarters with tears in his eyes.
Harrison Ford to Director ” What is my motivation”
Director- ” Harrison, the Death star has wiped out the planet Leia, we need some tears”
Brewster says:
April 10, 2014 at 6:05 am
Weather Underground’s Jeff Masters is really plugging it:
Among the gushing platitudes are gems like:
“The science is excellent, provided by climate science experts like Heidi Cullen, Michael Mann, Katharine Hayhoe, James Hansen, and Joe Romm.”
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Did he REALLY list these people — as experts?? [sigh]
Yet another reason to DUMP Weather Underground as a weather
informationpropaganda site…This is a downbeat movie which attaches blame for just about everything bad you can think of to “global warming” or “climate change” (they use both terms equally) which is caused by man-made carbon dioxide (or “carbon” as they still can’t manage the whole phrase “carbon dioxide”).
Harrison Ford and Don Cheadle go jumping all over the world from Texas to Syria and anywhere they can find “victims” of global warming. There are lots of q&a sessions along the lines of “How long have you lived here?…. How bad is this drought/water supply/lack of some necessity of life or other” and being told “We/I have lived here (X) years and this is the worst drought anyone can remember…etc”) the clear implication being that somehow man-made “carbon” is responsible for all their misfortunes.
A great deal of time is spent interviewing fighters in Syria, as if the Western lifestyle is somehow causing these ancient grievances to flare up and start getting people killed, and in Texas where they pray for rain every day because the drought has destroyed the cattle ranching and meat packing industry in Plainview. There is extensive coverage of the burning of forests and the planting of palm-oil plantations (that’s all our fault too).
The movie keeps repeating that these droughts and by implication every other unwanted weather event is caused by “our choices” as if droughts (for example) had never occurred before the industrialization of the West. This point of view is pounded into all the puzzled people affected by the Texas drought who turn up to hear an explanation from climate scientists as to why the rains won’t come.
What you won’t get from this movie is any sort of proof that man-made carbon dioxide is causing the climate to change, and always for the worse. There is no linkage or method or anything associated with the scientific method to demonstrate that man-made “carbon” is causing any weather event anywhere on Earth. The whole approach of the movie makers is to show (or just talk about) the “cause” and then to show the “effect” of man-made CO2, leaving the viewer to make a sort of pagan/magical link in their own mind between the two events.
By the way, since this is on Showtime, nobody will watch it (at least on cable). Everyone will be tuned to “Game of Thrones” (heh, heh).
And as a counterpoint, I’m waiting for a documentary entitled “The Years of Living Comfortably”.
Growth in wealth and health has been impressive over the last 200yrs and fossil fuels have been a key component in that growth.
I keep expecting them to say “BRAWNDO! Because it has ELECTROLYTES!!!”
Jeez, these greens know nothing. The Syrian conflict was actually generated through a real fear by Assad, and his Alawite clan, that his people would be extinguished in a mass ‘elimination’.
You have to realise that the Alawites are not real Musl!ms (they celebrate Christmas and refuse to go to mosque). Thus they were grievously persecuted and lived in the gutters of Syrian society for more than a thousand years. But then came the French in the early 20th century, who were looking for allies in their governance of Syria. They chose the Alawites, because they were persecuted and half Christian, and put them in control of the army. And from there, to government.
Thus Assad and his Alawites knew that if they ever lost control in Syria, they would all be ‘eliminated’ and exiled. This is not Western politics, where loss of power results in a few years in opposition. This is Eastern politics, where a loss of power results in something far more serious. (Recall the ‘elimination’ of 3.5 million Armenian and Greek Christians from Turkey between 1900 and 1922.)
Thus it was obvious to anyone with knowledge of history that Assad would hang onto power at whatever cost, which is what i wrote in an article back in April 2011. And everyone said ‘rubbish’. But the future and the politics of Syria were obvious – Assad had no other option other than to face down all opposition. It was either that, or have 4 million Alawites and 4 million Christians ‘eliminated’ and exiled from Syria. (You will note that the Christians are allies of Assad, because they know he will protect them.)
In addition, it was not so surprising that someone like Obama would seek to back the Syrian terrorists, and thus potentially seek the ‘elimination’ and exile of 4 million Christians. You have to wonder which side this guy is on.
And the bottom line in this polemic, is that Climate Change has sweet FA to do with anything that is going on in Syria. Unlike climate ‘scientists’, I was able to predict everything that would happen in Syria three years in advance; and that makes Syrian politics more of a science than climate is.
Ralph
Wow, this is more full of holes than Swiss cheese.
If you didn’t know better, some of it is quite persuasive.
Classic ‘climate science’ at its best, full of deliberately misleading stuff that would easily persuade, or confuse, the gullible and uninformed.
Just another attempt to try and keep the Global Warming Industry’s gravy train on the tracks.
I love you all.
wws: “I keep expecting them to say “BRAWNDO! Because it has ELECTROLYTES!!!””
LOL! That’s what the farmers in Texas needs. Brawndo has what plants crave. 😛
This movie would actually be great fodder for a parody. Maybe have Bagdad Bob standing on a glacier with polar bears walking past in the background as he declares, “there are no polar bears in Alaska! Never!” Get Harrison Ford to board a time machine and go back in time 35 years or so to a weepy Sally Struthers wailing about famine in Africa. That must have been caused by CO2 as well. 🙂
a comment made at the Guardian, they are letting a few things through.
“About 9.5 minutes in, the NASA scientist uses the words “the models predict”. You may as well switch off at that point”
AJ says:
April 10, 2014 at 6:23 am
And as a counterpoint, I’m waiting for a documentary entitled “The Years of Living Comfortably”.
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Getting there!
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/mar/17/aid-trade-reduce-acute-poverty
“World poverty is shrinking rapidly, new index reveals
UN development report uses nutrition and education as yardsticks as well as income..
…Some of the poorest people in the world are becoming significantly less poor, according to a groundbreaking academic study which has taken a new approach to measuring deprivation. The report, by Oxford University’s poverty and human development initiative, predicts that countries among the most impoverished in the world could see acute poverty eradicated within 20 years if they continue at present rates”
Ah well, all those poor folk in Texas will be relieved if the El Nino that may currently be brewing brings them above average rainfall, as El Ninos apparently tend to do.
In that sense, it’s a pity the series wasn’t delayed for some problem or other by up to about a year. The irony of its being aired while persistent rains rolled across the southern US would have been delicious.
This will appeal to the Climatists and their earnest Useful Idiots, as it just reiterates their ‘conventional wisdom’. All the ills of the world are caused by mankind’s evil ‘greenhouse gases’.
Time for a counter-movie. Here’s the theme:
CO2 IS GOOD FOR PLANTS, GOOD FOR THE EARTH, AND GOOD FOR YOU!
ralfellis (April 10, 2014 at 6:35 am): Interesting take on the Syrian mess and the Alawites. Link to your article?
/Mr Lynn
I just had breakfast. Am not about to watch this bile.
ralfellis: this is a bit off topic for this blog, but given your expertise, I’m wondering if you read the review of Seymour M. Hersh’s new book in the London Review of Books:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line
Now I take no position on the veracity of Mr. Hersh’s claims, although it has always been widely believed that he has confidential sources both in the White House and the CIA, who wish to remain anonymous for obvious reasons. It’s quite a long piece, but to sum up, he makes the case that Erdogan in Turkey, with heavy covert backing from the US, has been the prime actor in the effort to overthrow Assad, to the point that Hersh suggests that the chemical weapons attack was a Turkish false-flag operation; and also, that the Russians are aware of this, which is one of the reasons they are so militant towards the west now.
As I said, I can’t know if this is true or false, but I do know that both the Turkish and American governments were bursting with outrage at his suggestions today. As the saying goes, he’s certainly made the right enemies.
p.s. He has an interesting sideline, almost a footnote to his piece, explaining Benghazi: he writes that Ambassador Stevens primary job was to collect as many of the weapons as could be had which were available after the fall of Qaddafi, in order to ship them to the Syrian insurgency. After several shipments had already been made, a local Libyan militia became upset about some part of this deal and attacked the compound, leading to the Ambassador’s death. This version of the story does provide a rationale for the extreme cover-up that’s been imposed on this story by all levels of the American Govm’t, and the unwillingness of anyone to talk about it. The answer, in this version, is *not* simple incompetence, but rather a fear that the biggest covert international gun running operation since Iran-Contra would be uncovered, to the embarrassment and discredit of everyone currently in power.
That may just have the Ring of Truth to it.
and of course, the response to all these very serious life and death real world issues is the standard magicians trick of misdirection – “Hey Look, over there! I see the climate changing!!!!”
A youtube video — featuring Susan Rice?
Boy, there better not be any spontaneous protests.
The Day After Obtuse
“After the war, some of the leading cast members were brought to trial as part of the denazification process. They generally defended their participation in the film on the grounds that they had only done so under duress. ”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jud_S%C3%BC%C3%9F_%281940_film%29
I used to like Harrison Ford, but for some reason I resent having my taxpayer money shelled out to give him a thrill ride on a military jet.
P.S. Why does NASA need a military jet to collect to collect air samples in the first place? Ah, but ‘war is the health of the state’ so a military jet for scientific … er, government, purposes seems appropriate.
Nuccitelli’s column mate sold it like they were Hollywood press agents:
John Abraham: This new Showtime climate change documentary is a nonfiction thriller you won’t want to miss The only thing missing was a series of exclamation points (!!!!!)
I commented that they were flaking for it like a Hollywood press agents and called it an “indoctrimentary.” I was censored of course. What’s with all these censors among the warmists? What are they afraid of?
You have to read the column to believe it. Shameless.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2014/apr/09/years-of-living-dangerously-global-warming-blockbuster
Sadly, much like the “Mermaids” fakeumentary, many people will buy into this silly video.
The first thing that should be considered is why did the filmmakers and stars use so much fossil fuel to complain about fossil fuels?
Based on a early press release, back in December, I wrote an open letter to the producers of the “Years of Living Dangerously”:
http://bobtisdale.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/open-letter-to-the-executive-producers-of-years-of-living-dangerously/
“Sadly, much like the “Mermaids” fakeumentary” – sigh. I almost felt bad having to explain to my wife that it wasn’t really true, she enjoyed it so much.
wws says:
April 10, 2014 at 7:32 am
” to the point that Hersh suggests that the chemical weapons attack was a Turkish false-flag operation”
In May 2013, “rebels” were caught in Istanbul with 2 kg of Sarin. One Turkish report from that time:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aksam.com.tr%2Fguncel%2Fadanada-el-nusra-operasyonuda-buyuk-sok%2Fhaber-211025&edit-text=
More from that time exist.
Is there a scene where describing how hot the atmosphere is they show it being dialed up to volume 11?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/04/10/alarmist-movie-preview-the-years-of-living-dangerously/#comment-1609820
Bob: thank you for that. I missed it the first time around. I highly recommend it to all other readers.
The presentation by Harrison Ford in this piece of artistic bowel movement has inspired me to conduct a test. Now, we’ve all heard that ‘97% of all climate scientists agree, global warming is a threat, and humans are responsible.’ I don’t wish to quibble with that statement, but instead, I’d like to propose a 2 part quiz which replaces ‘climate scientists’ with an empty space, and ‘humans’ with an empty space, and a selection of answers; a, b, or c; to replace each of those 2 empty spaces. Be assured, a 100% grade awaits everyone who takes this test. So, here goes:
97% of all ________ __________ agree, global warming is a threat…
Select one of the following answers to fill in the blanks:
a) mansion owners
b) mansion owners
c) mansion owners
…and ______ are responsible.
Select one of the following answers to fill in the blank:
a) little people
b) little people
c) little people
Congratulations! You scored 100%!
WWS says: April 10, 2014 at 7:32 am
… He makes the case that Erdogan in Turkey, with heavy covert backing from the US, has been the prime actor in the effort to overthrow Assad, to the point that Hersh suggests that the chemical weapons attack was a Turkish false-flag operation; and also, that the Russians are aware of this, which is one of the reasons they are so militant towards the west now.
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Which is perfectly true. Although how much American backing Erdogan is getting from Barak Hussain Obama is a moot point, because most Turks hate America with a passion. Every single problem in Turkey is caused by America or Israel – apparently 😉
So the reasons for the Syrian crisis are religio-sectarian, and not due to climate. And this is why this topic is very pertinent to this thread. If we are to simplistically palm off the Syrian crisis onto ‘climate’, as the Greens want to do, then we will fail to understand the politics that really underlie this bitter civil and increasingly international conflict. And if we fail to understand the politics of Syria, and if Barak Hussain Obama had therefore backed the Sunni terrorists, this would have resulted in:
Four million Alawite Shias being eliminated and exiled from Syria.
Four million Armenian and Syriac Christians being eliminated and exiled from Syria.
The Syrian terrorists acquiring 2,000 tonnes of nerve gas.
The New York metro being unusable for the next 50 years.
Seriously. These terrorists hate America with a passion, and will bite the hand that feeds them with great pleasure. Aid from America and Europe is viewed by these groups as being Jizya – the institutional tax on non-Mus!ims.
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Regards, Turkey – Erdogan is a Sunni Musl!m, and there has been a long history of Turkey ‘eliminating’ minority groups who are not Sunni. The 3.5 million Christians in the early 1900s being one such group. Do remember that Turkey was a Christian nation until 1453, and many cities were still majority Christian until the early 1900s. Read up on the destruction and burning of Greek Smyrna.
And do remember than many of the 4 million Christians in Syria, are refugees from Turkey, who fled the Armenian genocide in the early 20th century. Not surprisingly, they do not exactly like Turkey….
Another of the sects that has been persecuted for generations in Turkey is the Alevi, and yet the Alevi are related to the Alawi in Syria – Bashar Assad’s clan. Again, the Alevi are the more liberal, and artistic side of Is!am, and so they are viewed as being kuffer heretics. So when 36 poets and musicians gathered in Sivas to honour a famous Alevi poet, they were all burned to death by a rabid mob – in 1993.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMgmr6UuLe4&feature=fvwrel (f.f. to 2:30 mins)
Thus Turkey has long been anti-Assad, and tried to destabilize the Assad regime, and vice versa. Syria hated Turkey for stealing Hatay province, and for stealing their water; and Turkey hated Syria for backing the PKK. This is why Assad built up such a large chemical weapons store, to counter the threat from Turkey. (It is often claimed that this was a defence against Israel’s nuclear weapons, but the threat from Turkey was probably uppermost).
But Turkey has to tread carefully, for much of eastern Turkey does not want to be Turkish. Most of ‘Kurdistan’ wants to cede from Turkey, and a large proportion of the population in the southeast (Hatay, Mardin, Sirnak and Hakkari etc:) say they are Arab, not Turkish (and they speak Kurdish or Arabic too). The borderlands with Syria have long been a multicultural powder-keg, as most multicultural regions tend to be, and it would not take much to inflame the region. And this is Assad’s goal, of course. If he can agitate alongside the Kurds and Arabs, and cause strife in Turkey’s east, it takes the pressure away from Erdogan’s Imperial goals. (Erdogan wants to resurrect the Ottoman Empire, which ruled all of Syria in the 19th century….)
Interesting times, and all that.
Ralph
Tom J says:
April 10, 2014 at 7:49 am
I used to like Harrison Ford, but for some reason I resent having my taxpayer money shelled out to give him a thrill ride on a military jet.
P.S. Why does NASA need a military jet to collect to collect air samples in the first place?
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You sort of answered your own question. NASA has a jet because it is too lame to take a celebrity up in their DC-8 to collect air samples. It is much more thrilling and photogenic to zoom around in a fighter jet.
I notice that Ford begins the film with the bald-faced assertion that greenhouse gases are the PRIMARY drivers of climate change. The script never looks back to reality from that point on.
Mr Lynn says: April 10, 2014 at 7:28 am
ralfellis (April 10, 2014 at 6:35 am): Interesting take on the Syrian mess and the Alawites. Link to your article?
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The newspapers were small and not web-based, but this is a copy of the article. This article went out on 19 Apl 2012, based upon emails to the UK parliament sent on 27 Apl 2011:
http://oi62.tinypic.com/30vkhsh.jpg
A similar barrage of emails went to the UK parliament in August 2013 (organised to come from a few hundred concerned activists). Some 15 MPs replied with their thanks, and Cameron lost the vote by 13 votes.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-23892783
Sorry, Cameron, but you did ask for it….
R
The low altitude, high speed, 80-degree-bank shots are cool! Watched the opening sequence 3 times!
Could be improved with some inverted maneuvers though. Maybe Mr. Ford’s stomach wasn’t up to it?
Also, if portions had been filmed through the HUD, we’d have a better idea of what they really did.
Re: dumping Weather Underground. Their basic function of providing weather services is fine. You don’t have to read the WeatherUnderground blog.
I was fascinated by their fixation on palm oil. It is my recollection that the primary driver for the explosion in palm oil demand had to do with “sustainable” fuels. Isn’t our military actually required to use those products? Aren’t we required to use “sustainable” fuels in civilian life? Maybe they should start naming names of the despicable individuals and organizations that are responsible for the push to put that requirement into effect. Maybe also work to vote out the pandering politicians and fire the bureaucrats that went along with it.
Some victims of global warming
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-26969266
$20M was spent on this documentary in an effort to influence the political process. Koch brothers better up their game.
Darnit, I thought this was a sequal to “Sharknado”. Both have similar scientific merit. /sarc
I am not suprised to see such outright disimformation broadcast as fact. Just look at what the current administration does on a daily basis in the US. We have already had nearly 6 years of living dangerously with spin, half truths, and outright lies by our government. Why would hollywood not capitalize on that precedent?
If you like your science, you can keep it. (insert disclaimer here)
Donald: Palm oil is the current panacea for everything from vitamin A deficiency to Alzheimer’s. I couldn’t make it past the first 3 minutes of the film, but did they mention lemons? As a California lemon grower, I was recently pleased to learn that fresh lemon demand has gone through the roof in Asia; it seems that they too are a key to immortality.
Funny, just trying to be helpful, this observer pointed out in a “letter to the (local) editor” that the scare tactics were back-firing. They ignored it and kept on saying “Boo!” Same with the infamous “d-word” – it is patently counter-productive. They just keep on digging that hole!
THE SCARIEST SCIENCE FICTION YOU WILL EVER SEE!!
Brought to you by the Sci Fi masters: James Cameron and Arnold Schwarzenegger
SHOWTIME PRESENTS: THE SKY IS FALLING SERIES.
Warning: Some content may not be appropriate for viewers with IQ over 85.
“Re: dumping Weather Underground. Their basic function of providing weather services is fine. You don’t have to read the WeatherUnderground blog.”
Actually in my zip code, WUs tolerance for daily low temperatures is +/- 10 degrees or greater. Even their forecasting sucks.
Gilbert K. Arnold says:
April 10, 2014 at 10:38 am
Re: dumping Weather Underground. Their basic function of providing weather services is fine. You don’t have to read the WeatherUnderground blog.
Gilbert – there are MUCH better sites out there (e.g. Accuweather). Moreover, every time you access Jeff Master’s site, you are enriching him so that he can continue to put out alarmist propaganda.
DUMP Weather Underground! Period.
Same catagory as Wells “War of the Worlds”. It really is just “Hollywood” fictional entertainment. But some gullible people actually believe it and are ready to jump off of tall buildings to save themselves from the imaginary doom and gloom
I like this better. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D5L3C7vxGHY
http://www.weatherstreet.com/
How does the science compare with Sharknado?
ralfellis says:
April 10, 2014 at 9:15 am
“and if Barak Hussain Obama had therefore backed the Sunni terrorists, this would have resulted in:”
No need to speak in the conjunctive.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-07-22/world/40728996_1_obama-administration-syria-civil-war
“Congressional panels approve arms aid to Syrian opposition
By Karen DeYoung,July 22, 2013
The House and Senate intelligence committees have approved CIA weapons shipments to opposition fighters in Syria, allowing the Obama administration to move ahead on the stalled program, senior congressional and administration officials said Monday.”
[ralfellis:]
“Four million Alawite Shias being eliminated and exiled from Syria.
Four million Armenian and Syriac Christians being eliminated and exiled from Syria.”
Loads of them are already arriving here in Germany. Give it time.
This just in, an update from the censors re Years of Living dangerously
The original warning for people with IQs over 85 was the censors’ concern that people with any critical intelligence watching this stuff should be ready for an unpleasant experience. But it is also true that the series is aimed at the clueless, and so there will be a separate warning to protect those with IQs under 85.
well, it is on showBIZtime!
10 April: Variety: TV Review: Brian Lowry: ‘Years of Living Dangerously’
The celebrity power fueling “Years of Living Dangerously,” Showtime’s multipart, James Cameron-Arnold Schwarzenegger-Jerry Weintraub-produced documentary devoted to sounding alarms about climate change, is inevitably a double-edged sword. Big-name stars obviously call attention to a project that otherwise might be lost in the shuffle, but they also make it easy for deniers to dismiss the message because of the messengers (oh those silly tree-hugging Hollywood dilettantes — though Schwarzenegger has right-wing street cred as a recent Republican governor). Nevertheless, this is a serious look at an important issue, and the fact its talking heads could just as easily be working on “Ocean’s 14” or “The Expendables 3” shouldn’t be held against it…
“Is there a way to discuss climate change,” Don Cheadle asks, as he ventures deep into the God-fearin’, science-hatin’ heart of Texas, “without politics or religion getting in the way?”…
“A thermometer is not Republican,” Cheadle quips at one point, and it should be noted Weintraub, too, is a Republican, so party affiliation isn’t the sole determinant in this conversation.
“Years of Living Dangerously” has been assembled with all the glitz of a major Hollywood production. It’s just that unlike most movies associated with the time of year when temperatures are supposed to rise, nobody knows in this one what the ending will be.
http://variety.com/2014/tv/reviews/tv-review-years-of-living-dangerously-1201153623/#
Bob Tisdale –
surely showtime should have to run your letter in full, with a narration, prior to broadcasting each episode!
Conservative projections from the world’s leading scientists. 10 min. Fargo same July temps as Phoenix in 2100. Sure. Who’ll be around to check that prediction?
for Bob Tisdaele –
9 April: Mother Nature Network: Inside ‘Years of Living Dangerously’: A Q&A with producer Daniel Abbasi
MNN got the story behind the new, ambitious global warming series from the producer — and climate change expert — himself
MNN: How did you get involved with the project?
Daniel Abbasi: Joel and David already had a lot of the elements in mind. I’d been involved in the climate change issue for a long time. I was working at Mission Point Capital Partners to help people do carbon investing. They’d left “60 Minutes,” and I was thinking about what was next as well. And we talked about how we could raise the money for this…
Q: What experience in the environmental sector do you bring to it?
A: I’m not a climate scientist myself but I spend a lot of time with them. I was at the Environmental Protection Agency, in the policy office. I was appointed because I worked on the Clinton-Gore campaign, and in the course of that work I talked to a lot of scientists. I was the associate dean at the Yale school of forestry and environmental studies and worked on climate issues there. I now serve on the U.S. National Climate Assessment and we help scientists do and review their work. On the series, I weighed in on the science, the politics of the issue, the policy…
Q: What do you think is the most pressing climate change issue?
A: There’s a diversity of manifestations, but they all stem from the burning of fossil fuels, the deforestation, particularly in the tropical belts. Indonesia is the third largest emitter of greenhouse gases, after China and the U.S., where it’s because of industry; in Indonesia it’s because of deforestation. We need to dramatically reduce emissions. We have to have electricity generation that is de-carbonized, like solar and wind…
Q: Some on the political right see global warming as a liberal conspiracy. How did that happen?
A: In the ’90s, during the Clinton/Gore administration, the issue, unfortunately, did become quite politicized between Democrats and Republicans…
Our hope is that this show will be able to transcend that, because what we’re doing is we’re putting a human face on this…
Q: What are the plans for spreading the word?
A: There will be a companion website that will provide supplemental information about the stories, solutions and ways for people to act on them. One of our funders is Paul Allen and his production company is involved in developing social change initiatives and partnerships around this with the website that will carry out into the real world…
http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/climate-weather/stories/inside-years-of-living-dangerously-a-q-a-with-producer-daniel
10 April: Bloomberg: Eric Roston: Titanic Climate Documentary Makes Reporters out of Hollywood Elite
That makes him (James Cameron) the ideal target for this question: ‘Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic’ is a common cliche about how international climate talks never seem to go anywhere. Given your work on climate change and the Titanic, that sound right to you?
CAMERON: “A more apt metaphor is that the entire crew of the Titanic before it hit the iceberg had been replaced by a bunch of monkeys,” said Cameron, a National Geographic Explorer, who has visited the Titanic wreck a dozen times in submersible vessels. “There’s a period of time when the iceberg’s in sight, and you have to turn, but you’re not turning. That’s the period we’re in” with climate change.
Our pre-wreck period is chronicled with precision and unprecedented production values in The Years of Living Dangerously…
Cameron explained his standards for accuracy in documentary work (using a different part of his brain from the science-fiction generator, he said). “You have to look at the provenance of any statistic,” he said. “Where did it come from? How many people have signed off on that? Is it in peer-reviewed research? Are there dissenting voices? And are the dissenting voices minor enough that they don’t need to be credited at this point?”
It’s easy (for anyone predisposed to such a thing) to have science-envy of Cameron’s documentary work. This is, after all, a person who developed his own vehicle so that he could strap himself in and drop to the deepest part of the ocean.
Journalism too rarely draws on the methods of science. To counter the trend, this blog post was prepared as a controlled experiment, sort of. Right after interviewing James Cameron by phone, I bumped into a different James Cameron — the chairman of Climate Change Capital, a pioneer in international climate law, and a member of the advisory board of General Electric’s Ecoimagination…
The two Camerons have never met, although the lawyer and entrepreneur Cameron was confused for the Avatar and Titanic director by several inattentive people at the World Economic Forum in Davos, in 2010, when the director appeared, too…
“I’m absolutely ready to share space with creative people so that we can visualize how life could get better having solved this problem,” said Cameron, the GE advisor. “It might well be the less we talk about [climate] as a problem that might end humanity, we might solve it — without declaring as such that we’re solving it. That’s a visual challenge as much as it is a technical one.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-09/titanic-climate-documentary-makes-reporters-out-of-hollywood-elite.html
10 April: Reuters: Piya Sinha-Roy: Hollywood heavyweights put climate change manifesto on TV
As temperatures continue to rise and habitats come under threat, a group of Hollywood heavyweights is seeking to bring the spotlight back on climate change with a new documentary…
Cameron believes that progress can only come from legislative change.
“I think the U.S. is trailing the pack. I think the U.S., instead of showing the kind of moral leadership that it should, is being shamed by almost every other country in the world that’s actually taking action,” the director said…
Bringing Hollywood voices to the issue has its advantages…
“If people are watching people whom they associate with escapist fiction, laying bare some sobering facts, it may lend a resonance they wouldn’t otherwise have,” said (Michael C.) Hall, who traveled to Bangladesh, a nation threatened by the rising sea levels…
With “Avatar” sequels planned in 2016 and 2017, Cameron said the films will be “about our connection to nature and our connection to each other.”
Joining the documentary’s celebrities are the scientists, a group of nine advisors who aid the stars in making the scientific case about climate change.
But the documentary also acknowledges the climate change skeptics, from the Texans who believe droughts are brought on by the hand of God, to the scientists who believe global warming is part of the planet’s natural process…
But Cameron makes clear he is skeptical of the skeptics.
“I think it’s important to analyze each of the skeptics’ arguments very carefully and when you analyze them, they fall apart; they fall apart in the light of science.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/10/us-climatechange-idUSBREA390UM20140410
10 April: MissoulaNews: We are the new polar bear
Scientist M. Sanjayan talks about his upcoming television series “Years of Living Dangerously”
Q: What do you think of the recent and dire report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that basically says no one will come out unscathed?
MS: If you look at the first IPCC report you would almost want to put the polar bear on the front of it … The good thing about this recent IPCC report is that it squarely puts the focus on humans. When you read this report you’re like, ‘Oh I get it. We are the polar bear.”…
Q: How did you become interested in climate change?
MS: I’ve always felt like a bit of a fraud talking about climate change. Some years ago, Steve Running [University of Montana climatologist] and I were lucky enough to meet David Letterman out in Eastern Montana where he has a home. After that meeting, Letterman invited me on his show. He preceded to really pummel me with questions about climate change—not in a mean way, he was charming as can be. But it was clear that this was an issue that deeply mattered to him and that I, as a lead scientist for a big environmental organization, The Nature Conservancy, should have answers. I was repeating things I’d learned in books and papers. I was intellectualizing it and ducking and weaving so that I wouldn’t get caught basically with my pants down not really having an answer on late-night TV.
It was kind of funny and it worked for television; I don’t come off looking bad, but it scared me inside. I realized that if I was to get out there and tell the story about climate change I had to do it with a lot more conviction. I had to feel it in my bones…
http://missoulanews.bigskypress.com/missoula/we-are-the-new-polar-bear/Content?oid=1953710
10 April: Medill Northwester Uni: Elle Metz: Panel urges group viewing of SHOWTIME’s climate change series to mobilize action
A panel of medical professionals and climate-change experts, hosted by communications group Climate Nexus on Wednesday, urged viewers to watch the show with family and friends in hopes that the series will spur climate change conversations and action.
“The television can be very passive,” said panelist Dr. Catherine Thomasson, executive director of Physicians for Social Responsibility. “The goal is to have people talking” and for them to realize “they don’t have to do it all themselves.”…
Humans are “motivated to change by individual stories of loss,” said Dr. Lise Van Susteren, a board member for the Center for Health in a Global Environment at Harvard; more so than by science and statistics.
People are “knowing figures behind climate change but not quite feeling it,” said George Marshall, the co-founder of the Climate Outreach Information Network.
Physicist Joe Romm, one of the series’ two chief scientific advisors warned that, if action isn’t taken, the harsh narratives featured in the show “will be everyone’s stories.” Climate change is “the most important story for all of humanity,” he said…
“There’s a widespread social silence” when it comes to climate change, Marshall said – in individual interactions, in the media and in politics. Two-thirds of people rarely if ever discuss climate change, he said.
Marshall urged people to “break the silence” by attending a series watch party. Viewers can host their own party or search for one in their area at 350.org.
“We form our views through conversation with people who share our values,” he said. By watching “Years of Living Dangerously” with these people and discussing its content, viewers will open up a climate-change dialogue.
Better yet, they’ll band together to take action, such as calling up their local political representative, said Thomasson.
http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/chicago/news.aspx?id=229657
James Cameron backed out of debating skeptics to avoid embarrassment.
Hes a weasle who chickens out of a fight ,only to then cold cock blindside his opponent.
Here is a parallel trailer to a new movie. The similarities are quite astonishing with respect to what is conveyed in this “Year of Living Danerously” series, no?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lUcspS-PT7k&feature=youtu.be
Any body been keeping tabs on our USGS lately? ;-}
Dangit, I didn’t switch to non-mobile mode when I tried to embed the video……
Sorry for the extra click!
“Imagine that Fargo, North Dakota is like Phoenix… 100 degrees. These are conservative projections by the world’s leading scientists.”
Which leading scientists have projected Fargo’s climate to become like that of Phoenix? I think there’s been a little too much “imagination” going on with these people. Besides, “temperatures of 100° or higher occur nearly every year somewhere in North Dakota. These temperatures of 100° F or more last only for a day or two.” But that’s not the same as having a climate like Phoenix. Phoenix doesn’t get an average 4.5 feet of frost penetration like Fargo does. So when do they imagine this miracle is going to take place? When does this transformation of climate even begin? They might want to start by breaking the old record high for North Dakota, which hasn’t been equaled once during the whole time man-made CO2 has been on the rise:
“The highest temperature ever recorded in North Dakota was 121° F at Steele on July 6, 1936, and the lowest temperature measured was -60° F at Parshall on February 15, 1936.”
I like the one with Bryan Brown Sigourney Weaver and Linda Hunt much better.At least it was based on real historical events.<:o)
The film talks about Syrian farmers being displaced because a great drought, and therefore joining the rebellion. So I thought I would look at the Syrian rainfall data. The following charts are from 1900, in four blocks of data. Data from the World Bank.
http://sdwebx.worldbank.org/climateportal/index.cfm?page=country_historical_climate&ThisRegion=Middle%20East&ThisCCode=SYR
Notice any major change in rainfall?
http://oi58.tinypic.com/2mqohty.jpg
Methinks that someone here is using standard taqiyya when talking to unbelievers, and the Greens fell for it, hook line and sinker.
Ralph
Film industry notice regarding “Years of Living Dangerously”
Showtime Presents: Years of Living Dangerously
Working Title: “The Sky is Falling” series
Disclaimer: This could be the scariest science fiction production of all time, created by Sci Fi masters James Cameron and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Docudrama style could be confusing to people unfamiliar with the scientific realities.
Warning: Some content is inappropriate for:
Viewers with IQ over 85:
People with any critical intelligence watching this stuff will have an unpleasant, possibly nauseating experience
Viewers with IQ under 85:
Impressionable people will be misled and should be protected by rational and calm adult supervision.
Addition: Beware of a thread bomber (pseudoname “Pat”) who is attracted to websites discussing this series.
Here is another view of Syrian weather, from Damascus airport. Unfortunately, the precipitation column has some significant gaps in it, which is unfortunate
But what we can see is that the number of foggy days, thunderstorm days, and rainy days has stayed remarkably the same. So if there was less precipitation in the last five years, as they claim, then this was due to lighter rainfall rather than a general drying out of the climate.
In addition, any drought was obviously not due to global warming / climate change, as two of the wettest years were in 2003 and 2004. Except, of course, that climate change can cause sudden wet-drys and flood-droughts, plus some hot-colds and windy-calms. Fickle thing, this climate change business:
http://www.tutiempo.net/en/Climate/Damascus_Int_Airport/400800.htm
And perhaps it should be pointed out that populated Syria lies on the edge of the Syrian Desert. Go a few kilometers east to Palmyra, and you are in real desert lands, and just 100mm of rain a year. This is pic of Palmyra, 120 km east of Homms. Notice much growing here? (Apart from the oasis palms, which is why Palmyra was built here.)
http://religion.utk.edu/travels/syria/Palmyra2.jpg
Ralph
They use a jet fighter to measure CO2? The irony is too much!
No afterburners though…
This is on a par with TRU TV’s stealing the Great Lakes episode, where the apparent intent of the fiction is to get people to quit drinking bottled water:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj7u9rh76qg
–AGF
A final act of desperation, trying to persuade people about a pending climate catastrophe. It makes “An Inconvenient Truth” look respectable… and we know that movie was a political movie and was littered with errors… the British High Court said so.
The only credible part of this movie is the real factual impacts caused by deforestation in Indonesia. But there is absolutely nothing in this movie that links droughts and other climatic events with human activity CO2 emissions.
The biggest failures of this movie are:-
– the failure to look at the historical record of droughts in Texas and Syria
– repeating Gore’s mistake, misinterpreting the ice core data relationship between CO2 and temperature
– talking about global warming but failing to recognise the 17 year pause in global warming
– linking the Syrian civil war with drought and man-made global warming
– trying to turn global warming into a religious thing.
My overall assessment? It is typical Hollywood crap trying to pass as credible evidence about climate change doom. All hype… no substance!