Update: I’m making this a top “sticky post” for a couple of days, new stories will appear below this one.
UPDATE: 2/27 3PM PST Dr. Moore leaves a comment, see below.
Our friend Dr. Patrick Moore, co-founder of Greenpeace, went before the U.S. Senate yesterday to tell his story as it relates to global warming/climate change. It is well worth your time to read. WUWT readers may recall that since Dr. Moore has decided to speak out against global warming and for Golden Rice, Greenpeace is trying to disappear his status with the organization, much like people were disappeared in Soviet Russia.
Statement of Patrick Moore, Ph.D. Before the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, Subcommittee on Oversight
February 25, 2014
“Natural Resource Adaptation: Protecting ecosystems and economies”
Chairman Whitehouse, Ranking Member Inhofe, and members of the Committee. Thank you for the opportunity to testify at today’s hearing.
In 1971, as a PhD student in ecology I joined an activist group in a church basement in Vancouver Canada and sailed on a small boat across the Pacific to protest US Hydrogen bomb testing in Alaska. We became Greenpeace.
After 15 years in the top committee I had to leave as Greenpeace took a sharp turn to the political left, and began to adopt policies that I could not accept from my scientific perspective. Climate change was not an issue when I abandoned Greenpeace, but it certainly is now.
There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years. If there were such a proof it would be written down for all to see. No actual proof, as it is understood in science, exists.
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) states: “It is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.” (My emphasis)
“Extremely likely” is not a scientific term but rather a judgment, as in a court of law. The IPCC defines “extremely likely” as a “95-100% probability”. But upon further examination it is clear that these numbers are not the result of any mathematical calculation or statistical analysis. They have been “invented” as a construct within the IPCC report to express “expert judgment”, as determined by the IPCC contributors.
These judgments are based, almost entirely, on the results of sophisticated computer models designed to predict the future of global climate. As noted by many observers, including Dr. Freeman Dyson of the Princeton Institute for Advanced Studies, a computer model is not a crystal ball. We may think it sophisticated, but we cannot predict the future with a computer model any more than we can make predictions with crystal balls, throwing bones, or by appealing to the Gods.
Perhaps the simplest way to expose the fallacy of “extreme certainty” is to look at the historical record. With the historical record, we do have some degree of certainty compared to predictions of the future. When modern life evolved over 500 million years ago, CO2 was more than 10 times higher than today, yet life flourished at this time. Then an Ice Age occurred 450 million years ago when CO2 was 10 times higher than today. There is some correlation, but little evidence, to support a direct causal relationship between CO2 and global temperature through the millennia. The fact that we had both higher temperatures and an ice age at a time when CO2 emissions were 10 times higher than they are today fundamentally contradicts the certainty that human-caused CO2 emissions are the main cause of global warming.
Today we remain locked in what is essentially still the Pleistocene Ice Age, with an average global temperature of 14.5°C. This compares with a low of about 12°C during the periods of maximum glaciation in this Ice Age to an average of 22°C during the Greenhouse Ages, which occurred over longer time periods prior to the most recent Ice Age. During the Greenhouse Ages, there was no ice on either pole and all the land was tropical and sub-tropical, from pole to pole. As recently as 5 million years ago the Canadian Arctic islands were completely forested. Today, we live in an unusually cold period in the history of life on earth and there is no reason to believe that a warmer climate would be anything but beneficial for humans and the majority of other species. There is ample reason to believe that a sharp cooling of the climate would bring disastrous results for human civilization.
Moving closer to the present day, it is instructive to study the record of average global temperature during the past 130 years. The IPCC states that humans are the dominant cause of warming “since the mid-20th century”, which is 1950. From 1910 to 1940 there was an increase in global average temperature of 0.5°C over that 30-year period. Then there was a 30-year “pause” until 1970. This was followed by an increase of 0.57°C during the 30-year period from 1970 to 2000. Since then there has been no increase, perhaps a slight decrease, in average global temperature. This in itself tends to negate the validity of the computer models, as CO2 emissions have continued to accelerate during this time.
The increase in temperature between 1910-1940 was virtually identical to the increase between 1970-2000. Yet the IPCC does not attribute the increase from 1910- 1940 to “human influence.” They are clear in their belief that human emissions impact only the increase “since the mid-20th century”. Why does the IPCC believe that a virtually identical increase in temperature after 1950 is caused mainly by “human influence”, when it has no explanation for the nearly identical increase from 1910- 1940?
It is important to recognize, in the face of dire predictions about a 2°C rise in global average temperature, that humans are a tropical species. We evolved at the equator in a climate where freezing weather did not exist. The only reasons we can survive these cold climates are fire, clothing, and housing. It could be said that frost and ice are the enemies of life, except for those relatively few species that have evolved to adapt to freezing temperatures during this Pleistocene Ice Age. It is “extremely likely” that a warmer temperature than today’s would be far better than a cooler one.
I realize that my comments are contrary to much of the speculation about our climate that is bandied about today. However, I am confident that history will bear me out, both in terms of the futility of relying on computer models to predict the future, and the fact that warmer temperatures are better than colder temperatures for most species.
If we wish to preserve natural biodiversity, wildlife, and human well being, we should simultaneously plan for both warming and cooling, recognizing that cooling would be the most damaging of the two trends. We do not know whether the present pause in temperature will remain for some time, or whether it will go up or down at some time in the near future. What we do know with “extreme certainty” is that the climate is always changing, between pauses, and that we are not capable, with our limited knowledge, of predicting which way it will go next.
Thank you for the opportunity to present my views on this important subject.
Attached please find the chapter on climate change from my book, “Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout: The Making of a Sensible Environmentalist”. I would request it be made part of the record.
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For that chapter, please see the PDF of his testimony, here: 22514HearingWitnessTestimonyMoore
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UPDATE: 2/27 3PM PST Dr. Moore adds this comment:
Patrick Moore (@EcoSenseNow)
Submitted on 2014/02/27 at 2:53 pm
Nice to see so many positive and informative comments. It does pain me to see my Wikipedia entry cited. It was largely written by my enemies and it is very difficult to change as the editors don’t like people to write their own biographies. I trust Wiki only for non-political entries, Boron, for example.
For a factual account of the founding of Greenpeace see: http://www.beattystreetpublishing.com/who-are-the-founders-of-greenpeace-2/
I have placed my testimony and the three supporting graphs/tables in Dropbox. They can be accessed here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s65ljwrbuetrrny/PadEn_XjT7
OK Climate Warriors, I’t’s time for serious discussion to separate Fact from Opinion, Fact from Inference, and Fact from Prediction. One would hope the average Grade 9 mind could make the distinctions.
If you wish to read my full text on climate it is the last chapter of my book “Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout” available on amazon.com as ebook or print here: http://goo.gl/E4M5op
Wonderful testimony by Dr. Moore!! He deserves our thanks and appreciation.
Great presentation. I hope it has a lasting and positive impact on the debate, but since the whole issue is now one of partisan politics (not science), I am not too optimistic.
An excellent summary by Dr. Moore.
But there are entirely too many “skepticals” in the posts. As a matter of clear and correct communication this summary is an excellent summary of the scientific position. Being scientifically skeptical is the proper approach. Not relying on skepticism but on consensus is scientific nonsense.
The skepticals or deniers are the ones who deny the geologic record, deny the problem of computational limits in computer modelling, deny the problem of using equilibrium calculations to model non-equilibrium systems, deny the limited knowledge we have of all the climate processes, deny that the behavior chaotic, non-linear systems cannot be reliably predicted, deny that chaotic systems can have multiple semi stable states(i.e. ice ages and interglacials at least), and etc.
Bravo Patrick Moore, Ph.D!
What we do know with “extreme certainty” is that the climate is always changing, between pauses, and that we are not capable, with our limited knowledge, of predicting which way it will go next.”
Interesting comment, as we must have had the same physics instructor (1960’s) who exclaimed man is not sufficient in capacity to affect climate. We see the urban heat island and where does it spread? By definition it is a local affect.
Where is MSM on this?
David Ross says:
February 26, 2014 at 3:49 pm
It is not just a matter of how articulate Moore is (and the above was one of the best arguments I have read in the climate debate), it is his credibility. The alarmists will find it much harder to cast the usual smears at him. If they try, their own credibility will suffer.
David,
I heartily agree! Moore has ‘green’ street cred, making his statements hit the AGW crowd like a door knob loaded sock. They really have no defense…. that doesn’t also diminish their own credibility.
Distribute Dr. Moore’s congressional testimony widely, often, and to all sides of the issue, especially to your national and state Representatives and Senators.
Mac
No doubt the democrats did not listen to a word he said.
Sean says:
February 26, 2014 at 6:36 pm
No doubt the democrats did not listen to a word he said.
I would think the opposite. A well oiled machine listens closely, then defines a strategy to respond…if at all.
The Moore statement represents what Mann’s position can never be viewed as, integrity wise.
Thank you for the conciseness of your integrity.
John
garymount says:
February 26, 2014 at 3:45 pm
I hate to keep saying this until I’m green in the face, but, the good doctor failed to mention the Carbon Dioxide is plant food. You know the rest…
Well, with enough said, he might at this point be wearing a bullet proof vest…imagine the hate mail he will receive, the condemnation, … use your imagination. How many out there are of such to take his path.
@Espen –
Not to worry about “carbon pollution” but plenty to worry about from those who still believe in it.
BTW – as far as I can determine, the MSM completely ignored Dr. Moore’s testimony, and of course now CNN (presumably apropos to Ted Cruz’s cleaning Dana Bash’s and John Kerry’s clocks) says it will not allow any more discussion of the skeptic position – marking themselves as climate Nazis and dictator lovers for sure.
I’ll be watching Fox to see if they weigh in. They have hosted Climate Depot’s Marc Morano fairly regularly – let’s see if they mention it.
Dr. Moore,
“The IPCC defines “extremely likely” as a “95-100% probability”. But upon further examination it is clear that these numbers are not the result of any mathematical calculation or statistical analysis.”
This is correct. Using statistical analysis, the temperature anomaly data from 1880-2013 show no warming that passes the 95% confidence level, if you include the margin of error in the data. All warming since 1880 are within the range of “random noise.”
“The fact that we had both higher temperatures and an ice age at a time when CO2 emissions were 10 times higher than they are today fundamentally contradicts the certainty that human-caused CO2 emissions are the main cause of global warming.”
Ice ages are caused by Milankovitch cycles. It’s possible to have ice age and high atmospheric CO2 at the same time. We are still in an ice age so it’s also possible to have global warming in an ice age.
“Today we remain locked in what is essentially still the Pleistocene Ice Age, with an average global temperature of 14.5°C. This compares with a low of about 12°C during the periods of maximum glaciation in this Ice Age to an average of 22°C during the Greenhouse Ages”
This proves global warming can occur in an ice age and greenhouse gases can cause global warming. The GHE theory is sound.
“It is important to recognize, in the face of dire predictions about a 2°C rise in global average temperature, that humans are a tropical species.”
If local temperatures in cities all over the world increase by 2C, why would that be catastrophic? Las Vegas temperature reaches 40 C and people are too busy gambling to notice. But rising sea level could be a problem. Expensive but not catastrophic.
The debate is over, among real scientists, that is.
The arm chair types can proceed, though. Bloggers are a gullible sort, so you can put your “brilliant analysis” in front of them, rather than a Journal, for example. Bloggers deeply wish to believe it’s all a hoax. I do too. But, I can’t.
Hey, it worked with Big Tobacco. There’s good money in this, I don’t doubt.
In Europe GreenPeace has become an Official Government Contract Partner driving our entire civilization back to Medieval times. It would be appreciated of the dear Dr. would take the trouble and convince our totally brainwashed political establishment they have it totally wrong and his beloved GreenPeace has turned into Green Poisson for modern civilizations causing damages to our economies on a scale comparable to the Hydrogen Bomb the dear Dr. protested in his early career.
The Dutch, the British and the German governments have the highest priority for now.
I gladly offer him a place to stay since I have a spare room left and if necessary I will personally drive or fly him to Berlin, The Hague and London.
Thanks very much Dr. Moore. And thanks Anthony, a comment I could make on a daily basis.
BEST EVER!
IMHO this article is the best article that has ever been written on WUWT or probably anywhere for that matter. Sums up all the bickering and statistical points that each side uses to advance their beliefs into a bottom line “this is the big picture” of the earths climate an what we DON’T know… since all the scientific papers try to show you what we do.
More today, from the AGW Ranch:
Science academies explain global warming reality
Associated Press
By SETH BORENSTEIN 4 hours ago
http://news.yahoo.com/science-academies-explain-global-warming-reality-001622461.html
WASHINGTON (AP) — Man-made global warming is worsening and will disrupt both the natural world and human society, warns a joint report of two of the world’s leading scientific organizations.
The U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the Royal Society, which is the national scientific academy of the United Kingdom, are releasing an unusual plain language report on climate change that addressed 20 issues in a question-and-answer format.
jfreed27 – Dr. Patrick Moore is not a real scientist? Instead of addressing Dr. Moore’s arguments you throw out cheap shots about AGW skeptics being armchair critics. Economist Martin Armstrong is developing a computer model that he says will be more accurate than anything out there, Armstrong thinks it is nonsense that human can affect such a huge system as the earth’s climate, he thinks the sun’s 300 year cycle has a lot to do with the climate which another woman scientist has detailed. go to armstrongeconomics.com and search global warming in his blog section.
Mac the Knife says:
February 26, 2014 at 8:44 pm
More today, from the AGW Ranch:
Science academies explain global warming reality
Associated Press
By SETH BORENSTEIN 4 hours ago
http://news.yahoo.com/science-academies-explain-global-warming-reality-001622461.html
WASHINGTON (AP) — Man-made global warming is worsening and will disrupt both the natural world and human society, warns a joint report of two of the world’s leading scientific organizations.
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Jeeez, did you all read the comments on this ?
I read about 30, and it ain’t pretty for the climate parasites. Bye bye Seth. Have a happy retirement.
I have now had a chance to download and read the PDF with the chapter from his book. There are plenty of references in that chapter to the CO2 benefits to plant growth. Never the less, it would have been nice to have at least one reference in the rest of his statement to one of the primary benefits of increased CO2 in the atmosphere. Perhaps an acknowledgment that so far the world may have benefited with an additional trillions dollars of extra wealth as a result, with a 10 trillion benefit expected by… I forgot when.
While I’m here; I have often read that the rich or advanced in development societies should pay billions of dollars to non as advanced nations because of our past use of fossil fuels. However, that usage created the advanced technologies that are now common place and saving lives in these still developing societies, making there lives far better off than they otherwise would be. In other words, we’ve already paid.
Also, a lot of the fossil fuel I use is for heating my home in winter, and fall and spring. Many of the still developing locations live in warm climates that do not require this type of energy use, so the claim that they will use the quantity of energy that I use once they get to my standard of living just doesn’t make sense, they don’t need much winter, spring and fall heating.
Not to mention a blind ear! 😀
Heh-heh.
Dr Patrick Moore is in agreement with Professor David Bellamy as well as a whole host of excellent scientists, engineers and other fine intellects. Now that’s what I call a “scientific consensus”.
Chad,
Dr. Patrick Moore is scheduled to appear on Fox soon on Hannity’s show which is on at 10:00 PM EST.
Patrick Moore says –
“As noted by many observers, including Dr. Freeman Dyson of the Princeton Institute for Advanced Studies, a computer model is not a crystal ball. We may think it sophisticated, but we cannot predict the future with a computer model any more than we can make predictions with crystal balls, throwing bones, or by appealing to the Gods.”
that’s the bottom line. great presentation. MSM will ignore.
Dr Moore will be on Fox, Hannity This Friday 10;00 PM
Dr. Patrick Moore — Humans are part of the environment…”
@Patrick Moore — Good for you.