The sanctioned punishment of climate skeptics becomes more than just a few aberrant ideas, and is following some historical parallels
First, I loathe having to write essays like this, but I think it is necessary given the hostile social climate now seen to be emerging.
Yesterday, WUWT highlighted the NYT cartoon depicting killing “deniers” for having a different opinion, today I want to highlight Naomi Orekses and Suzanne Goldenberg, who seem seem to like the idea of having climate “deniers” arrested under RICO act for thought collusion, all under the approving eye of the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard.
Watch the video: The RICO quote is about 1:12:30 in the video. Note that none of the panelists blinks an eye at the suggestion. They are all smiling after Oreskes finishes.
From the description of the video:
The science is clear: drastic global climate change due to human activities threatens our planet. Yet, a well-funded international campaign continues to deny the scientific consensus, foment public doubt and oppose action. The media—especially social media—have helped fuel false controversy and climate skepticism. How can climate change communication be improved?
Panel discussion with:
Suzanne Goldberg, U.S. Environment Correspondent, The Guardian
Dr. Naomi Oreskes, Professor of the History of Science, Harvard University
Dr. Peter Frumhoff, Director of Science & Policy, Union of Concerned Scientists
Moderated by:
Cristine Russell, Senior Fellow, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs’ Environment and Natural Resources Program
Introduction by:
Henry Lee, Director, Belfer Center’s Environment and Natural Resources Program
February 13, 2014
Of course, no prominent climate skeptics were invited to give a counterpoint, though WUWT does make an appearance.
An actual quote from Goldenberg in the video at 2:50
“I don’t know what CAGW was”
This makes me wonder just how competent she is to write about the topic. The irony is completed full circle though. At 2:20 she claims WUWT “actually isn’t about science” while our “best science blog” banners are projected near her head and while highlighting Justin Gillis, tell us again about “the Bigger Picture” (an opinion piece) and A relationship between Sea Ice Anomalies, SSTs, and the ENSO? (a science piece).
At least we know they are reading WUWT.
Goldenberg won’t cover the topics we cover, simply because she isn’t capable and is in the employ of a newspaper (the Guardian) with a clear goal to push only one viewpoint about climate. And, her objectivity, now that she runs in this circle of friends, is blown out of the water.
Oreskes, who authored the book Merchants of Doubt, seems to think that climate skeptics are little more than paid shills, deserving of criminal status, while Goldenberg works tirelessly to create strawmen houses out of the thinnest of research, which she publishes in the Guardian. She also follows the Oreskes mindset in thinking that we all must be on somebody’s payroll and that we are all part of a “secret network” of well funded climate resistance.
Lately, this sort of hateful and distorted thinking is getting a bit worrisome as statistician William Briggs observes:
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RICO-style prosecution. For what tangible crime? Well, heresy.
(Has to be heresy. The amount of money I have extorted from my skepticism hovers between nada and nil.)
This put me in mind of a passage from from Dawn to Decadence by the indispensable Jacques Barzun (pp 271-272):
The smallest divergence from the absolute is grave error and wickedness. From there it is a short step to declaring war on the misbelievers. When faith is both intellectual and visceral, the overwhelming justification is that heresy imperils other souls. If the erring sheep will not recant, he or she becomes a source of error in others….[P]ersecution is a health measure that stops the spread of an infectious disease—all the more necessary that souls matter more than bodies.
Even though not all admit this, their actions prove that souls are more important than bodies. Thought crimes are in many senses worse than physical crimes; they excite more comment and are more difficult to be forgiven for. Perhaps the worst crime is to be accused of racism (the charges needn’t be, and frequently are not, true; the accusation makes the charge true enough). It is now a thought crime to speak out against sodomy (and to say you personally are a participant is a matter of media celebration).
Barzun said that sins against political correctness “so far” have only been punished by “opprobrium, loss of employment, and virtual exclusion from the profession.” (I can confirm these.) Barzun said, “any form of persecution implies an amazing belief in the power of ideas, indeed of mere words casually spoken.”
The Enlightened, who simper when calling each other “free thinkers”, in one of their favorite myths tell us how they left the crime of heresy behind. The word has been forgotten, maybe, but not the idea.
Stalin sent his victims to the firing squad for the crime of “counter-revolution”, not heresy. Being repulsed by sodomy is not heresy, it is “homophobic”. Believing in God and practicing that belief is not heresy, but “fundamentalism.” Cautioning that affirmative action may cause the pains the program is meant to alleviate isn’t heresy, but “racism.” Saying that unskillful Climate models which routinely bust their predictions should not be trusted is not heresy, but is “anti-science.”
Boy, has Science come up in the world to be a personage one can sin against.
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And AlexJC notes in Der Ewige “Denier” on the NYT cartoon depicting killing “deniers” that a pattern is emerging.
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Some commentators on WUWT have likened this little scene to Nazi anti-Jewish propaganda in the 1930s, and I’m inclined to agree. There’s a pertinent article, called “Defining the Enemy” on the website of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum:
One crucial factor in creating a cohesive group is to define who is excluded from membership. Nazi propagandists contributed to the regime’s policies by publicly identifying groups for exclusion, inciting hatred or cultivating indifference, and justifying their pariah status to the populace.
There’s a picture you can find online of the “stereotypical Jew”, which was drawn by Nazi cartoonist Philipp “Fips” Rupprecht and published in the newspaper Der Stürmer sometime before the end of World War II. Although different in some respects to the “stereotypical Denier” in the NYT, there are a number of similarities. Both subjects are male, well-dressed, rather plump and well-fed and standing with their chests slightly thrust out. Both have distinctive noses – the Jew has a large hooked nose and the Denier has one that is more reminiscent of a pig’s snout. Both are smoking a cigar, which is clearly the mark of an evil plutocrat anywhere, Jewish or otherwise. The similarities are quite unsettling.
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Indeed, they are, and worse yet, few if any, in the general science community seem to have the courage to stand up and say anything about these people and the actions they do and/or suggest as being inappropriate or antithetical to science.
Roy Spencer is the exception for scientists who have decided to speak out against this hate and smear, and has decided to fight back by labeling anyone who calls him a “climate denier” as a “climate Nazi”. I’m not sure how effective or useful that will be, but clearly he’s reached a tipping point. He adds:
A couple people in comments have questioned my use of “Nazi”, which might be considered over the top. Considering the fact that these people are supporting policies that will kill far more people than the Nazis ever did — all in the name of what they consider to be a righteous cause — I think it is very appropriate. Again, I didn’t start the name-calling.

The parallels with what occurred in pre-WWII Germany seem to be emerging with the constant smearing of climate skeptics for the purpose of social isolation, and now Oreskes is calling for members of this group to be charged with crimes under RICO. This isn’t new, we’ve heard these calls for climate skeptics to be arrested before, such as Grist’s David Roberts who proposed Nuremberg style trials for climate skeptics, but lately it seems to be picking up speed.
We even have people in the same climate clique playing virtual dress up as Nazis, such as we’ve learned recently from the “Skeptical Science” forum showing proprietor John Cook in full Nazi uniform in the image seen at right. There were several Nazi images depicting SkS.
And, there’s the call for removing dissenting opinion from the press, such as from “Forecast the Facts” (a funded NGO that attacks media)
“Brad Johnson (@ClimateBrad), the editor of HillHeat.com and a former Think Progress staffer, boasted on Twitter that 110,000 people had urged the newspaper “to stop publishing climate lies” like the Krauthammer piece.”
We’ve already seen one prominent newspaper refuse to publish letters from climate skeptics with others following suit.
What is most troubling to me is that Oreskes and Goldenberg appear to be of Jewish descent (as does Dr. Michael Mann) and yet they all seem blind to the pattern of behavior they are engaging in and advocating; the social isolation and prosecution of climate skeptics which seems so reminiscent of the ugliness in times past. I honestly don’t understand how they can’t see what they are doing to silence climate skeptics is so very wrong.
It does seem true, that those who don’t learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
From my viewpoint, the only way to combat this ugliness is with taking a stand. These tactics must be called out when they are used. I urge readers to write thoughtful and factual letters, guest commentary where accepted, and blog posts, countering such smear whenever appropriate.
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I said:
“Yesterdays cartoon was a SKEPTIC cartoon not a warmist one.
Pretending otherwise doesn’t make it so.”
DirkH replied, February 24, 2014 at 1:09 pm:
Stereotyping skeptics as Monopoly millionaires smoking cigars?
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That’s your colorful interpretation of a relatively bland image.
But look at the facial expressions:
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/nyt_denier_stab.png
I see a viscious psychopath stabbing an inconvenient skeptic when he attempts to ask a reasonable question. I see astonishment on the face of the skeptic.
The cartoon is about an administration desperately trying to get rid of all the inconvenient icicles while the economy burns. U.S Dept. of Commerce: 2014 Icicle Surplus – it’s right there in the title.
If it had been a warmist cartoon, the icicles would not be in “surplus,” and the skeptic would be portrayed as insane rather than inconvenient.
Think about it – don’t just look.
I’ve known about State of Fear for a long time, but just recently got around to reading it. It’s a terrific page-turner, and a movie script just waiting to be cast. Isn’t it time for producer with deep pockets to turn it into a major motion picture? I can’t think of anything that would drive the Climate Parasites crazier than Crichton brought back to life!
/Mr Lynn
I’ve been watching these conversations for years, and the level of vitriol is starting to disturb me. The ‘joke’ about killing people doesn’t strike is as particularly funny.
Somehow we’ve gotten stuck in a pattern of conversation that seems to be edging towards a violent confrontation.
I’d rather change the conversation entirely before people start getting hurt.
Suppose we take the entire subject of climate and science out of the realm of politics, and restore it to its proper place as scientific inquiry.
For example, we’ve been working on a solution for cheap energy. Such solutions take open minds, a willingness to ask hard questions, and courage to face those hard questions from others. Projects like ours could help move us to science, and away from politics.
For our information. we’ve put together a short paper covering the physics, which is at http://www.thermawatts.com/the-atec-concept.html.
Detailed test results on prototype units are here: http://www.thermawatts.com/atec-test-results.html. The test results document runs about 70 pages (including pretty pictures), and should include everything needed to replicate it. The raw test data is all shared on the same page.
This is the Frankfurt School 2.0…… Google it
Given that Dr. Spencer is actually in the trenches, doing the science to get at the facts; and given that he has stood up and represented the viewpoint of many of us, in what were little more than cake crumbs thrown to the masses at Barbara Boxer’s Senate hearings, rather than extensive debates on the real state of the science. I think Roy has endured the label of “climate denier” more than most of us.
So I think he has the right to give his antonym, the words he chooses as a fitting match to what they label him.
I personally stay away from that word, as I was just a little too close to that world episode for comfort; although thankfully geographically remote, and not personally involved. But I saw what it did to all peoples.
So as far as I am concerned Roy’s choice of label, is fine with me; though I will bite my tongue.
” Paul Westhaver says:
February 24, 2014 at 5:53 pm
highflight56433,
“Facts are stubborn things aren’t they.
Don’t worry. People can read just fine.”
Much appreciated. 😉
I just want to say thank you, Anthony, for your moderate and reasoned approach to this kind of threatening speech – you deal with these things sensitively and you never allow people to respond in kind in the comments – that was also very apparent in the recent post about the NYT cartoon, and is very apparent here in this article.
Regarding the first comment above – I too am a cartoonist with little in the way of a technical background*. But I’m cartooning on the skeptic side. I hope that’s okay!
This is my cartoon about the topic:
http://itsnotclimatescience.com/0034.html
May I also make this point – there are prominent Jews who are climate skeptics too – such as Ben Stein (who well might lose his credibility with many readers of WUWT for being an intelligent design advocate).
(*Mind you I did trigonometry, advanced algebra, physics, chemistry in my leaving exams, I do have qualifications in teaching computer science although my main degree was in music, my thesis in musical composition included a piece of music that was computer generated for which I did the programming myself, and I did statistics as part of a postgraduate education degree… )
Chad Wozniak:
At February 24, 2014 at 2:44 pm you post these evil and vicious lies
NO! There is NO basis in which “socialists rather fall into the same category as AGW extremists,”
That is a lie.
NO! There are not “220,000,00 dead by socialism”. That is a lie which applies all deaths by all government actions and assigns them to “socialism”.
Withdraw your evil lies and apologise.
Strewth! American neo-naz1s like you are disgusting.
Richard
Friends:
The evil and pernicious liar posting as highflight56433 adds these lies and smears at February 24, 2014 at 4:03 pm.
“Socialists are the enemy” of neo-naz1s. So, we are the enemy of highflight56433.
“You can not be a Christian and a socialist”? As an Accredited Methodist Preacher operating in the Falmouth and Gwenap Circuit, I refute that lie. And I think my congregation on Sunday would be astonished at such a lie.
I am not an “enemy of [his] state” but I am an enemy of his evil state of mind which uses lies and smears to promote hate and fear.
Richard
Anth0ny:
I have just seen your instruction for me to take a time out. My two very recent posts were made before I saw it. I will now take it although I note that the liars have not taken a time out.
I place on record that I there is NOT an equivalence between
(a) the lies and smears of me (and the billions who share my political views)
and
(b) my refutations of the evil liars making those lies and smears.
Without some constraint of the extremists it becomes counter-productive for me to contribute to blogs. I left the blogs of Jo Nova and Judith Curry because such concerted attacks were disrupting the blogs.
Richard
tiki886 says: February 24, 2014 at 5:59 pm
Sorry, but this is absolutely false. It was initiated a few days ago,by someone by the name of O’Sullivan who has long been known to be extremely economical with the truth. – particularly when he’s opining on Mann’s (and Weaver’s) frivolous libel lawsuits.
This is not the first time that O’Sullivan has (very wrongly) made such an unsubstantiated claim. Nor, I suspect, will it be the last.
In this instance, O’Sullivant seems to have conflated Steyn’s recently announced countersuit against Mann with Mann’s suit against Ball. The latter of which (as Steve McIntyre has recently confirmed via direct inquiry to Ball) is still alive and well and lingering in the limbo of the British Columbia court system.
When asked for a link to evidence of this heretofore unheralded “dropped case”, O’Sullivan provided none. Although he pretended to, by pointing to Andrew Montford’s thread at BH regarding Steyn’s countersuit!
The moral of this story is: Not unlike anything that might emanate from Mann’s keyboard (or that of his defenders), one should always seek independent verification of that which emanates from O’Sullivan’s.
On a continuum of reliability –> unreliability, Mann and O’Sullivan (whose self-promotion antics and commitment to truth in posting, to my mind, equal those of faux-historian, David Irving) are definitely at the very far end (if not beyond the scale) of “unreliability”.
This being the case, tiki886, since you provided no source or link, perhaps you and your mouse could retrace your steps and advise your original source accordngly, so that further propagation of this falsehood can be stopped!
Thanks.
Bernd Felsche says:
February 24, 2014 at 8:01 pm
…But other than the arbitrary grouping by one trait of individuals, there is usually little difference between “them and “us”. …
I don’t think that is true at all.
In relation to Climate Nazis, The grouping that they choose when forming their group is neither arbitrary nor by way of a single trait. I think it is a conscious self aligning/affirming process whereby people of like mind self identify as, as Roy called them, Climate Nazis.
Compared to “us” as you put it, there is a world of difference. I would put the differences not at the biological level, but at cultural, political, experiential, financial and age among other attributes. No Koomby-ya from me thanks.
Now because we “US” observe and recognize that these people self-affiliate and we are intelligent enough to recognize that they fall into an identifiable set of groups, that does not mean you can simply dismiss our recognition of their self-affiliation as arbitrary grouping for our convenience.
The same applies the other way as well. I self identify as skeptic of AGW. I do so for a number of non arbitrary reasons.
Further, they in their use of cartoon are not arbitrary or narrow minded. They know who and what we are in our affiliations and organizational complexities.
No. I am afraid that the world is far more clever than the model you suggest.
There is also a big difference in what these Climate Nazis are doing, saying and planning. They are thinking, planning, joking about, harboring the desire to, kill people like A Watts and me. That make them, the climate Nazis, fundamentally distinct from A Watts and me and every other AGW skeptic I know. We wish no harm to any of them. Just that would shut up.
This is a serious subject. It ain’t checkers.
This article has generated much in the way of serious, intelligent and relevant comment.
Anthony is to be congratulated on his impressive contribution to our important endeavors to make the public aware of the realities of the “climate change” scene.
The crux of this publicly stated suggestion that “deniers” deserve legal penalties, although absurd for all the reasons made clear from other commentors, not only exists but is allowed to remain unchallenged in the media except on alternative internet media.
Unchallenged just as is the complete disregard for traditional science, the denial of facts, truth and the lack of impartiality of the CAGW fraternity, its supporters and marketers.
In contrast to their ridiculous and obvious nonsense about funding, the reality is exactly the reverse. Yet how easily they corrupt the public with such garbage.
The fact remains that there is only a relatively small proportion of the total population who appear to have a grasp of reality.
More importantly, the force(s) behind the climate change movement, which we know to be politically motivated, are abundantly funded and motivated. (Soros’ involvement is sufficient to verify that).
We should therefore be genuinely afraid of any suggestions of legal controls against our free speech status. Their agenda is so important to them that they will not give in to the possibility of our becoming anything more that a minor irritation.
No matter what we say, think or do, the chances of achieving rationality in this “debate” are small. The chances of achieving a satisfactory outcome in the real world similarly challenged.
We are up against a formidable opposition.
I don’t know if anyone caught it, but around 00:13:50 she said no body from the skeptic community wants to debate the science with other scientists, Isn’t it really the other way around? Also, I have watched scientific debates between both sides and skeptics win the debates with a vote by the audience/panel. I’ve seen some ties as well, but the Climate Nazies have yet to come away with a clean win.
There is no moral equivalence between a kidnapper who puts a child in a storage shed and locks them there and a Sheriff who apprehends the kidnapper and locks him in a cell.
One is committing a crime, the other is upholding a law based on a system of justice.
Several cartoonists and video makers have made publications showing the death of AGW skeptics. They are committing a moral crime. When we defend ourselves from that crime by calling them out and putting their crimes into the light of day we are not guilty of any moral crime as well. That is patently absurd. This notion that there is some kind of tit-for-tat going on is intellectually false.
Roy Spencer is well with his right to define and expose the jack-booted thugs who have threatened him for what they are.
Roy Spencer says:
February 24, 2014 at 1:32 pm
“DirkH, that’s why I used the term…because it IS applicable….for several reasons. If it doesn’t play well in Germany (which I expected anyway) that’s OK by me.
Just because others have overused the term doesn’t mean it never fits. And I probably would have restrained myself from using it, if not for being accused so many times for being as evil as a Holocaust denier.”
Thanks for answering. Well, you gotta know what you do. I still think as a rethorical tool it’s overused and too shrill and too blunt at the same time. The left will use the opportunity to characterize you as a nutcase who’s lost it. Yes I know, they use hyperbolic language all the time; but they are 100% hypocritical and use language as a weapon all the time. You can’t win against them with weaponizing language; that is THEIR area of expertise. You can only win with rational thinking – that is THEIR weakness.
[Please, let’s all calm down and accept Anthony’s timeout. It’s not fair for one side to keep this going when the other can’t respond. ~ mod.]
Brandon Sheffield says:
I don’t know if anyone caught it, but around 00:13:50 she said no body from the skeptic community wants to debate the science with other scientists. Isn’t it really the other way around?
Yes, it is. These cliate alarmists/propagandists always run and hide out from any fair, moderated debate.
The reason is pretty obvious: they consistently lose debates because they have no credible science to support their beliefs.
It is those perpetrating the hoax of AGW that should be prosecuted.
Hmm, it seems like my comment about a smear page Mann tweeted a link to went straight to moderation. No wonder, with the kind of language I quoted. But you should have a look at it anyway, it’s quite revealing how low standards he is willing to accept if it’s for “the cause”!
There is no doubt that those that would make freedom of thought and expression a crime err. To those that would counter this unwarranted attack on hard-won civil liberties, I can suggest only that they batter their foe with facts, smite them with logic, disarm them with rhetorical simplicity, and charm them with humility.
“What is most troubling to me is that Oreskes and Goldenberg appear to be of Jewish descent (as does Dr. Michael Mann) and yet they all seem blind to the pattern of behavior they are engaging in and advocating”.
Troubling indeed, but to me no surprise. Jewish intellectuals of 1930ies New York in particular were among the most fervent supporters of that other psuedo science: Eugenics, totally oblivious to where, when taken to its logical consequences by an evil ideology, it would leed.
Suzanne Goldenberg is the one who blamed global warming for the ‘melting’ of the Newtok permafrost in an Alaskan community. I pointed out the issue of ‘Thermokarst Slumping’ caused by human disturbance of the top layer of soil etc. I told here she was mistaken as they became refugeess in 1959, when they were forced to settle there. They also claimed that this community were “America’s first climate refugees”. I pointed out drastic Holocene climate changes in the USA such as persistent drought lasting over 100 years which meant she must be wrong anyway.
If Canada is still part of the America then she is wrong again.
Ho ho.
Time to admit that Monckton and Delingpole were right.
It is interesting that in the comments of an article titled “The Merchants of Smear”,
Merchants of Smear raise their ugly heads and attack long-standing WUWT posters.
In another topic I wrote (with slight variation):
From the “If one walks like a duck and quacks like a duck” …
There is a group of people who do not believe that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate. (Thanks to the Petition Project)
This group would like further discussions, debates, data sharing, and a continuing exchange of facts, observational data and methodologies.
This first group walks like science skeptics and talks like science skeptics.
So, if they walk and talk in such a manner, then by their deeds so will they be known.
There is another group of people who believe that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate.
This group is limiting (the science is settled) any sort of discussion, debate, data sharing, or exchange of facts, observational data and methodologies.
This group walks like “Merchants of Smear” and talks like “Merchants of Smear”.
So, if they walk and talk in such a manner, then by their deeds so will they be known.
So it is written, so it shall be.