Quote of the Week: ego driven science

qotw_croppedSome reflections on ego as scientific desire

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Anyone wondering why, in the face of contrary evidence, alarmists (such as Matthew English) have not admitted they were wrong (about ‘the pause’ or any other issue) might find the following quote from the Climategate archive interesting.

Phil Jones of the University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit (CRU) once admitted in a Climategate email that he wants the world to experience ‘climate change’, to vindicate his ego:

“As you know, I’m not political. If anything, I would like to see the climate change happen, so the science could be proved right, regardless of the consequences. This isn’t being political, it is being selfish.”

Source: Climatgate email http://www.ecowho.com/foia.php?file=1120593115.txt

Prioritising one’s ego above the posited pain and suffering on a global scale that climate change is supposed to bring – draw your own conclusions.

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M Courtney

Whenever I read that quote I always wonder what “Political” means to the good Professor..
Self-interest is not the same as determining the right course of action for your people.

Jimbo

Phil Jones has been worrying since at least 2005. For him it’s been about winning and not about being right.

Dr. Phil Jones – CRU emails – 5th July, 2005
The scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. OK it has but it is only 7 years of data and it isn’t statistically significant….”
Dr. Phil Jones – CRU emails – 7th May, 2009
‘Bottom line: the ‘no upward trend’ has to continue for a total of 15 years before we get worried.’

cnxtim

A far simpler word to accurately describe this charlatan is liar.

Jimbo

By the way where did Phil Jones get the “15 years before we get worried’” from???

CarolinaCowboy

A paper in the journal Geophysical Research Letters in May found that ocean waters below 700 meters (2,300 feet) have absorbed more heat since 1999:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-09/global-warming-slowdown-due-to-pacific-winds-study-shows.html

Jimbo

Dr. Phil Jones is a misunderstood climate scientist of the highest pedigree. He likes sharing his views on death and data.
Here is Dr. Phil in the CRU emails on the death of CAGW sceptic John Daly

Mike,
In an odd way this is cheering news ! One other thing about the CC paper – just found
another email – is that McKittrick says it is standard practice in Econometrics journals
to give all the data and codes !! According to legal advice IPR overrides this.
Cheers
Phil

http://www.burtonsys.com/FOIA/1075403821.txt

Yet after the leak of the CRU emails he wanted Princess Charlie boy to give him a loving kiss and cuddle while he threatened to top himself. What a piece of dog’s feces.

GaelanClark

CarolinaCowboy…..did you follow the link in the article that you posted?
That “absorption” is model based.
WOHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOWWWWWWIE!

Robin Hewitt

It must be difficult when you want that Government money but reality jumps up and bites you in the knees. I notice that after a lung transplant you have a 77% chance of being alive 12 months down the road, BUT, if the lung donor was a smoker you then have a 90% chance. Just like Dr Phil and his 15 year prediction, I bet they didn’t see that coming.
But soft, for my mind misgives etc…

JPS

CarolinaCowboy:
I’m no expert, and others here have written extensively on “Trenberth’s missing heat”.
I’ll just note that on clicking through to that article, I find it interesting how the authors present their data in terms of enormous numbers of Joules, or substantial fractions of a Watt per square meter. Why? How exactly are these measured?
I hope someone will tell me these authors aren’t starting with measurements of temperatures, and changes of tiny, tiny fractions of degrees, then extrapolating these through vast volumes of water to explain a very large energy discrepancy. Or, put another way, accounting for their “missing heat” by stashing it where no one can disprove it.

Thanks Eric. Good article.
It’s been 15 years since 1998, the year of the great El Niño.
Dr. Jones has surely started worrying before today. I think he was worrying in 2009. [Thanks Jimbo]

Gunga Din

“As you know, I’m not political. If anything, I would like to see the climate change happen, so the science could be proved right, regardless of the consequences. This isn’t being political, it is being selfish.”

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We’re so used hearing “climate change” used to cover that “global warming” isn’t happening I’m not sure what he meant. I’d hope that someone in his position would realize the the climate has naturally changed ever since there’s been one so I’ll assume he meant he hoped to see “The Hockey Stick” appear. It didn’t.
Has he ever said anything to indicate “the science” has been proven wrong? He seems to be implying that without what he wanted to see actually happening then “the science” would be proven wrong.

Doom-saying religious cults never recant their beliefs, instead they slowly slide into laughing stock status while everyone pretends not to have ever believed the scare that they were selling.
This is not science we are dealing with, it is religion, plain and simple. A warped hellfire and brimstone religion, for people who tell themselves they’re too smart to fall for a hellfire and brimstone religion.

Lil Fella from OZ

Ego orientation is self destructive. Regardless of the field.

Jimbo says:
February 10, 2014 at 2:44 pm
By the way where did Phil Jones get the “15 years before we get worried’” from???
……………..
‘Bottom line: the ‘no upward trend’ has to continue for a total of 15 years before we get worried.’
I think Dr. Jones was referring to half a climate period, or something of 30 years of length.

Jimbo

“As you know, I’m not political. If anything, I would like to see the climate change happen, so the science could be proved right, regardless of the consequences. This isn’t being political, it is being selfish.”

So Phil Jones says he is selfish, cheered by the death of a climate scientist, worried about 15 years of a lack of warming, feels like ending his life and is NOT political. Dr. Phil Jones needs to go seek help for his mental state and leave the ‘science’ of global warming to serious chaps. People who are not emotionally disturbed like Phil.

Jimbo

Andres Valencia says:
February 10, 2014 at 3:14 pm
Jimbo says:
February 10, 2014 at 2:44 pm
By the way where did Phil Jones get the “15 years before we get worried’” from???
……………..
‘Bottom line: the ‘no upward trend’ has to continue for a total of 15 years before we get worried.’
I think Dr. Jones was referring to half a climate period, or something of 30 years of length.

I can see that but what is your point? My point is that we were told 15 years or 17 years of statistically insignificant warming or cooler before the police started arresting these charlatans. Both have come and gone.

pat

speaking of El NIno!
11 Feb: Sydney Morning Herald: Peter Hannam: Pacific weather watch gets urgent funds as El
Nino prospects grow
The leading US weather forecasting agency says the drop in data flowing from monitoring buoys is hampering its ability to detect changes in the Pacific, as conditions favouring a damaging El Nino cycle take shape…
The importance of the equatorial Pacific to global climate was unscored this week with new research led by Matthew England of the University of New South Wales showing east-west trade winds over the region had strengthened…
A report published on Monday in the US journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences said there’s a 75 per cent chance the El Nino weather pattern will occur in late 2014.
The research by Josef Ludescher and Armin Bunde from Germany’s Justus-Liebig University used a 12-month model that successfully predicted the absence of El Nino in the past two years.
The US Climate Prediction Centre said last week there is an increasing chance of an El Nino later this year.
Andrew Watkins, manager of climate predictions services at the Bureau of Meteorology, said an El Nino event was possible but no certainty. While there are signs of warming in the central Pacific, forecasters will have a clearer view by autumn, he said…
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/pacific-weather-watch-gets-urgent-funds-as-el-nino-prospects-grow-20140210-32cno.html

Jimbo

Andres Valencia see this too. These people were over confident until the surface standstill persisted. Then they started backing out. I do believe that Gavin did the same despite his earlier position. See the date.

Real Climate – December 2007
Daniel Klein asks at #57:
“OK, simply to clarify what I’ve heard from you.
(1) If 1998 is not exceeded in all global temperature indices by 2013, you’ll be worried about state of understanding
(2) In general, any year’s global temperature that is “on trend” should be exceeded within 5 years (when size of trend exceeds “weather noise”)
(3) Any ten-year period or more with no increasing trend in global average temperature is reason for worry about state of understandings
I am curious as to whether there are other simple variables that can be looked at unambiguously in terms of their behaviour over coming years that might allow for such explicit quantitative tests of understanding?”
————
[Response: 1) yes, 2) probably, I’d need to do some checking, 3) No. There is no iron rule of climate that says that any ten year period must have a positive trend. The expectation of any particular time period depends on the forcings that are going on. If there is a big volcanic event, then the expectation is that there will be a cooling, if GHGs are increasing, then we expect a warming etc. The point of any comparison is to compare the modelled expectation with reality – right now, the modelled expectation is for trends in the range of 0.2 to 0.3 deg/decade and so that’s the target. In any other period it depends on what the forcings are. – gavin]
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/12/a-barrier-to-understanding/

Jimbo, my point is that Dr. Jones recognized he would be proven wrong to forecast ongoing global warming if the hiatus went on for more that 15 years.
He has been proven wrong as he was afraid in 2009.

Jimbo

As you can clearly see Phil Jones and Gavin Schmidt said in their own words that they would be worried by 15 years of a surface temperature standstill. Yet today they seek to back out. Arrive at your own honest conclusions about the kind of people we are dealing with.

Jimbo

Andres Valencia this is cheery news. 🙂

richardscourtney

Andres Valencia:
At February 10, 2014 at 3:14 pm you write

Jimbo says:
February 10, 2014 at 2:44 pm

By the way where did Phil Jones get the “15 years before we get worried’” from???
……………..
‘Bottom line: the ‘no upward trend’ has to continue for a total of 15 years before we get worried.’

I think Dr. Jones was referring to half a climate period, or something of 30 years of length.

No! Absolutely NOT!
You are confusing a period of climate with a Climate Normal period.
The period of 30 years as a Climate Normal period was decided in 1958 as part of the International Geophysical Year (IGY). Its length was purely arbitrary and was chosen on the basis that it was then thought there was sufficient global data for the previous 30 years but not before that.
Importantly, the Climate Normal (i.e. 30 years) is a period for which average data can be obtained for comparison to similar data. So, for example, GISS and HadCRUTn data sets each uses an average of a 30 year period to obtain temperature anomalies by subtracting the Climate Normal average temperature from each obtained temperature, but they each use a different 30 year period for the Climate Normal.
The use of 30 years as Climate Normal is unfortunate. It is not a multiple of the solar cycle, the Hale Cycle, ENSO, etc.. But its choice was arbitrary and was made for an apparently good reason in 1958.
Importantly, the length of Climate Normal does NOT define climate data. However, because a Climate Normal period is 30 years, it is often asserted that a period over which climate data must be obtained is 30 years. This assertion is completely wrong. Any period can be used to provide climate data provided it is specified. So, for example, global temperature is estimated for months, for years and for decades. The 1994 IPCC Report used 4 year periods to assess changes in hurricane frequencies.
Richard

pat

10 Feb: USA Today: Wendy Koch: Study: White and green roofs fight global warming
Painting roofs white or covering them with plants could help fight global warming, but they don’t offer the same bang for the buck everywhere, says a study Monday of six U.S. “megapolitan” regions…
“Each can completely offset the warming due to urban expansion and can even offset the warming due to greenhouse gas emissions,” says lead author Matei Georgescu, a sustainability scientist at Arizona State University…
The study, co-authored by three scientists at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, used climate models to look at the potential benefits of cool and green roofs in metropolitan areas that are sprawling into “megapolitan” regions…
His study, funded by the National Science Foundation, was published in the prestigious Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences journal.
“The study is a step in the right direction and is consistent with other studies that suggest that cool roofs can offset localized urban heat island impacts,” says Mark Jacobson, an environmental engineering professor at Stanford University…
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/10/white-green-roofs-global-warming/5341261/

Yes, Jimbo thanks for:
Real Climate – December 2007
Daniel Klein asks at #57:
“OK, simply to clarify what I’ve heard from you.
(1) If 1998 is not exceeded in all global temperature indices by 2013, you’ll be worried about state of understanding
……………
This is exactly my point, the hiatus proves the CAGW hypothesis (rock solid for the Goal Keepers) wrong.

heysuess

ANYONE who uses the term ‘climate change’ must be challenged as to their meaning of that phrase. As Charles W. Cooke points out in a National Review column, ‘climate change’ is not measurable, therefore not provable. How convenient.

“…so the science could be proved right, regardless of the consequences.”
Progressive scientists are devoted to progressive science being proved right – in order to demolish political, economic, religious, and educational freedom in the name of sustainable development.
Vaclav Klaus: “I have a problem with accepting the term “sustainable development”. It is not a neutral term. It is – in my understanding – an empty, undefined and undefinable, more or less leftist ideological concept. It can’t be a good basis for a serious discussion…To speak about sustainable development suggests a debate about creating barriers or obstacles to rapid, healthy and much needed economic growth.
The term sustainable development can’t be turned into an operational concept. The exponents of this term are the prisoners of the ahistorical and anti-economic doctrine of “the limits to growth” advocated since the 1970’s by green politicians and their fellow travellers in institutions and organizations of global governance. We should be careful when using such ideologically loaded terms. To spend time arguing against the ideology of environmentalism or against the global warming doctrine is not very productive.”

pat

wonder who made this video?
1:27 VIDEO (Animated): 10 Feb: NBC: Global Warming Heads to the Supreme Court
The Supreme Court is hearing a case that tests whether the EPA can regulate greenhouse gases in power plants
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbcnews.com/54336967/

davidmhoffer

This was one of the first climategate emails I ever read. I was in state of rage for days. Here is a guy predicting that, if he’s right, billions of people will die, and hoping that it actually happens so he can be vindicated. The complete selfishness is jaw dropping.
But the very next thing I did was to try and find out if Phil Jones and his ilk were buying up property in Siberia or Scandinavia, or northern Canada, or Alaska, to provide a safe haven for themselves and their children to ride out the coming disaster. To the best of my knowledge, not a single one of the “Team” has done any such thing.
My conclusion being that not only are these people so incredibly selfish that the wish death and destruction upon humanity for their own personal vanity, but they don’t actually believe their own bull sh*t.

Jimbo

Fast forward to 2010 here is Phil Jones again trying to spin his way out of the heat.

Dr. Phil Jones – BBC – 13th February 2010
“I’m a scientist trying to measure temperature. If I registered that the climate has been cooling I’d say so. But it hasn’t until recently – and then barely at all. The trend is a warming trend.”
__________________
Dr. Phil Jones – BBC – 13th February 2010
[Q] B – “Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming
[A] “Yes, but only just”.

And they still admit that the global surface temperature standstill continues.

Professor Matthew England – ABC Science – 10 February 2014
“Even though there is this hiatus in this surface average temperature, we’re still getting record heat waves, we’re still getting harsh bush fires…..it shows we shouldn’t take any comfort from this plateau in global average temperatures.”

Global warming continues and it’s much worse than we thought. Think about our grandchildren.

Thanks Richard,
Climate Normal period is what I meant to write; that Jones feared a hiatus longer than half a Climate Normal period, simply because the 30 years figure was somewhat fixed in the public’s mind and 15 years without any additional warming would weaken or even kill his beloved “established science”. As if such a thing exists.

Dr. Phil Jones – BBC – 13th February 2010
[Q] B – “Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming”
[A] “Yes, but only just”.
See the graphic “CRU – Global Temperature Record (March 2013, Phil Jones, Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia, UK)”, at http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk

pat

another CAGW ego, Justin Gillis, tho i had to find out he was the author by doing a separate search:
10 Feb: NYT: Freezing Out the Bigger Picture
Mr. Obama’s declaration provoked head-shaking from Congressional climate deniers, and unleashed a stream of mockery on Twitter. “As soon as he mentioned ‘climate change’ it started snowing on Capitol Hill,” said a post from Patrick J. Michaels, a climate skeptic at the Cato Institute.
If the world is really warming up, how come it is so darned cold?…
Scientists refer to global warming because it is about, well, the globe. It is also about the long run. It is really not about what happened yesterday in Poughkeepsie.
The entire United States, including Alaska, covers less than 2 percent of the surface of the earth. So if the whole country somehow froze solid one January, that would not move the needle on global temperatures much at all…
This winter is not over, but so far, the most interesting fact about the Arctic blasts in the East might actually be how short they have been compared with the past.
The meteorologists Brandt Maxwell, of the National Weather Service in San Diego, and Robert Henson, of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., have been doing some comparisons…
Winters have become so mild over the past 20 to 30 years that a blast of Arctic air feels extraordinary…
Scientists studying human perception have found that our immediate, visceral experience of the world can influence our judgments on tangentially related questions…
Fortunately, we are not stuck with human perception alone. Nowadays we have sophisticated thermometers scattered all over the place…
No matter how cold it got in Wisconsin last week, the world really is warming up.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/11/science/freezing-out-the-bigger-picture.html?hpw&rref=science&_r=0
ipscblog: NYTScience: Freezing Out the Bigger Picture
By JUSTIN GILLIS
http://ipscblog.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/nyt-science-freezing-out-bigger-picture.html
May 2012: Climate Depot: NYT Reporter Justin Gillis Does it Again! Author of ‘Worst NYT Story on Climate Ever’ — gets even worse!
http://www.climatedepot.com/2012/05/01/nyt-reporter-justin-gillis-does-it-again-author-of-worst-nyt-story-on-climate-ever-gets-even-worse/

Didn’t you know? Science has now proven that the only infinite and eternal entity in the universe is human ego.

pat

speaking of egos:
10 Feb: Time: Charlotte Alter: Hollande and Obama Push For Global Climate Change Pact
Newly single Hollande will visit the White House on his own
President Obama and French President Francois Hollande called for a binding global agreement to address carbon emissions Monday, and urged the rest of the world to get on board ahead of a 2015 climate conference in Paris.
In a co-written op-ed published jointly in The Washington Post and Le Monde, the two heads of state pledged to reduce carbon emissions and “expand the clean energy partnerships that create jobs and move us toward low-carbon growth,” with specific focus on helping developing countries embrace low-carbon energy as well…
The op-ed, which also highlighted economic and military alliances between the U.S. and France, was published as Hollande begins a state visit to the U.S. on Monday, the first official state visit by a French president since 1996, the BBC reports…
http://world.time.com/2014/02/10/hollande-and-obama-push-for-global-climate-change-pact/
Washington Post Op-Ed: Obama and Hollande: France and the U.S. enjoy a renewed alliance
By Barack Obama and François Hollande,
Barack Obama is president of the United States. François Hollande is president of the French Republic.
(FINALE) The challenges of our time cannot be wished away. The opportunities of our interconnected world will not simply fall into our laps. The future we seek, as always, must be earned. For more than two centuries, our two peoples have stood together for our mutual freedom. Now we are meeting our responsibilities not just to each other — but to a world that is more secure because our enduring alliance is being made new again.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obama-and-hollande-france-and-the-us-enjoy-a-renewed-alliance/2014/02/09/039ffd34-91af-11e3-b46a-5a3d0d2130da_story.html
10 Feb: BBC: Hollande and Obama make joint call for climate accord
France’s robust military response to threats in Mali and the Central African Republic, its tough stance on Iran’s nuclear programme and Mr Hollande’s willingness to join the US in air strikes on Syria, have vaulted France to a leading position among Washington’s traditional allies…
He will hope the first full state visit afforded to a French president since 1996 will bolster his dismal poll ratings, says the BBC’s Christian Fraser.
Mr Hollande’s approval ratings are stuck at barely 20% and doubts persist over his ability to kick-start the French economy…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26117455

I’ve noticed that the CAGW crowd seems to revel in human suffering if they can spin it to support their point of view.

stephen

Jail is where he should be.

Latitude

Jimbo says:
February 10, 2014 at 3:44 pm
“Professor Matthew England – ABC Science – 10 February 2014”
I just had a visual of Professor England all painted up, dancing around a fire..and throwing bones and stuff in it…………

John F. Hultquist

Jimbo and others
On Feb. 6, WUWT had a post “Satellites show no global warming for 17 years 5 months” where in the question was asked (by Kathy) and several answers given to the 15 year issue. My response is fairly short so I’ll just paste it here, but check that post for more: ~~~~
““ The 17 year thingy: Some years ago a member of the “climate Team” expressed the view that 17 years would be indicative of a problem in the Team’s approach to modeling Earth’s atmosphere and taking its temperature.** Apparently, graduate students at several universities poured over hundreds of model runs and could find a “pause” of only about 15 years so the next logical jump was that 17 would not happen in the real world. [I can make leaps of imagination too – I don’t know what really was done in those ivory towers!]
As the 17 year pause got near, the necessary length to be a problem was reset (moving the goal posts) to 30 years or something. No one really cares about the latest statement from “the Team” because “the 17-year Pause” was stated first and boldly. It is the icon of moment and is thus the reason for titles, such as for this post, to incorporate it.
____________
**This used to be done under the arm (Stevenson screen) but the Team now thinks the appropriate place to check Earth’s temperature is in some deep hole where the Sun doesn’t shine. ””
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PS, today: I think Santer first stated the 17 years.

Jimbo

One of the reasons why I am so upset with these climate liars is this. Way back they made me so frightened that I seriously considered my future and where I would live. I thought about selling my house in the future, move to another country to get to higher ground! I feel like a fool today and thank goodness I did not act. I urge every level headed person not to act. I was not level headed then but I am now. Phil, follow me into the light.
Australia build several de-salination plants in preparation for permanent drought, then they got hit with Biblical floods. Australia has always been a land of extremes with several climate zones.

pat

???
10 Feb: BBC: Paul Hudson Blog: UK flooding put in context
The level of coverage in the media of the resulting flooding across the UK has been virtually unprecedented in the last few weeks…
COMMENT by albanaich:
Perhaps more interesting is the unprecedented snowfall in the Scottish Highlands. . . . which has barely been reported.
The amount of snow it such that it may form a permanent snow cap this year, so while the rain drowns Southern England Scotland goes into glacier formation.
Thats the top of the buried Ski lift…
http://ski.visitscotland.com/conditions/nevis/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/posts/UK-flooding-put-in-context

John F. Hultquist

Jimbo
One of the reasons why I am so upset with these climate liars is this. Way back they made me so frightened that I seriously considered my future and where I would live. …
The risk we are entering a new mini ice age contributed to our family decision to move to the Fraser Coast in Australia – 25 degrees south of the Equator, right on the Southern fringe of the tropics.
IMO alarmists are doing a huge disservice to the world, their sloppy science is causing a massive waste of resources, resources which might be sorely missed if the sun enters a deep quiet period.
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20060825/53143686.html

Gail Combs

Gunga Din says: @ February 10, 2014 at 3:06 pm

{Date: Tue Jul 5 15:51:55 2005}
“As you know, I’m not political. If anything, I would like to see the climate change happen, so the science could be proved right, regardless of the consequences. This isn’t being political, it is being selfish.”

=========================================
We’re so used hearing “climate change” used to cover that “global warming” isn’t happening I’m not sure what he meant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Actually I think we can be quite sure what he meant since the United Nations had defined the term.

UNITED NATIONS FRAMEWORK CONVENTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE
UNITED NATIONS
1992
ARTICLE 1
DEFINITIONS *
2. “Climate change” means a change of climate which is attributed directly or indirectly to human activity that alters the composition of the global atmosphere and which is in addition to natural climate variability observed over comparable time periods.
http://unfccc.int/files/ essential_background/background_publications_htmlpdf/application/pdf/ conveng.pdf

Zeke, thanks for bringing up Vaclav Klaus.
See:
“Czech Republic: President Says Freedom is Endangered, Not Climate” (Dr. Václav Klaus, August 3, 2007), at http://www.klaus.cz/clanky/1546
“Climate Change: The Dangerous Faith” (Sydney speech) (Dr. Václav Klaus, 21 September 2011), at http://www.klaus.cz/clanky/2928

Jimbo

I live at sea level, I have no fossil fuel interests (except I use them), I burn charcoal to cook my food, fuel oil from the power station provides my electricity, I get power outages during the week, sometimes no water (booster station no electricity), sometimes no fuel for my car for days and I could go on. What I want is for those concerned low carbon chaps to trade places with me. They will be low carbon and I can live.

glenncz

Here is Phil Jones, the fixer, “speculating on correcting SST’s to correct the 1940’s warming blip”
http://di2.nu/foia/1254108338.txt
They keep working on this until they get it perfect.
more from Phil on correcting “the climate”
http://www.ecowho.com/foia.php?file=0953.txt&search=1940s

“The risk we are entering a new mini ice age contributed to our family decision to move to the Fraser Coast in Australia – 25 degrees south of the Equator, right on the Southern fringe of the tropics.”
I would never want to live farther north than Texas – and even here, it’s been a damned cold winter! Probably another ice storm in the morning.
(I grew up in Phoenix, give me the warm desert any time!!!)

Jimbo

Eric Worrall thank you for sharing. These people are actually criminals. They are causing a massive amount of disturbance for others while minimizing theirs. Look at Suzuki, Phil Jones, Big Ears Princess Charles, et al. They don’t want inconvenience but they want the rest of us to be inconvenienced. They assume they must be smarter and sharper than the rest of us. They are wrong, they happen to have low ethics, high hypocrisy and sometimes the luck of birth. “DO AS WE SAY, AND NOT AS WE DO.”

pat

11 Feb: Andrew Bolt Blog: Matthew England’s strange excuse for only now admitting to the warming Pause
Reader Nick has since asked England to explain this change of mind since he attacked sceptic Nick Minchin on (ABC’s) Q&A just two years ago…England has now given a bizarre reply:
“In terms of my comments on Q&A, I stand by them. The key thing is that back then, the observations had not departed from the model projection range. In the past year or two, 2012 average and also 2013, that’s no longer the case. Hence why we did this study. I hope you find the paper interesting, and sorry again for the delays in sending it.”…
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/matthew_englands_strange_excuse_for_only_now_admitting_to_the_warming_pause/

john robertson

Retributive justice, would in my twisted opinion, call for these persons to be stripped of all their wealth and then of their carbon.
Sadly an example must be set.
The crime of inciting a mob to violence is as old as humanity.
Actions speak loudly, we have experienced an extended period of fear mongering, attempted scapegoating of any sceptical voices and a constant lecturing and hectoring from persons wearing their lust for power nakedly.
It is human nature, the cycle moves on and some will get what they wished for others.
How sad.
Whats that German word…