Remember White House science advisor John Holdren’s wackadoodle video about the Polar Vortex? The opening line of the video spoken by Dr. Holdren says
” If you’ve been hearing that extreme cold spells, like the one we’re having in the United States now disproves global warming…don’t believe it.”
He then goes on to present evidence, like this plot of mid-tropospheric temperature, which looks like it is from UAH/Dr. Roy Spencer, though no citation is given in the video.
The funny part? Watch these two guys blow the glossy WH take on this visual out of the water with just a ruler and some common sense.
For more information on the UAH temperature record, see our most recent update here: Global Temperature Report: January 2014 Upper Michigan was ‘coldest’ spot on the globe in January
Then there’s the other satellite record, from RSS: Satellites show no global warming for 17 years 5 months
For more on the polar vortex, see the new WUWT Polar Vortex Page.
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Harry Passfield says:
February 7, 2014 at 7:10 am
So i guess you would categorise Gore’s ‘Inconvenient truth’ as equivalent to a peer-reviewed paper and worthy of all the plaudits it received? I mean, I’m pretty sure Gore had no plan to ‘pander to the lowest common-denominator audience’.
Gore’s Inconvenient Truth was packed with miss-information & exaggeration
– WUWT (& may others) made a good job of exposing that
This Glenn Beck segment is really just as bad (just with a different agenda)
– and doesn’t deserve any extra exposure on WUWT…
NotTheAussiePhilM says: “Obviously, WUWT has abandoned any attempt to make a serious scientific contribution and is just try to pander to the lowest common-denominator audience.
– I worry for America’s future with this rubbish being pushed down people’s mouths.”
Where exactly do you see danger in the graph discussed on the video?
Michael Moon says: @ur momisugly February 7, 2014 at 7:05 am
….. Let’s hope the Dems who hope to be re-elected this year give this bum the bum’s rush…
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I think it is a wee bit too late.
You have high unemployment, sky rocketing government debt, Obamacare, the banker bailouts and foreclosure-gate and several skandals…. The hard core will vote Dem no matter what but there are the middle of the roaders who want to toss the whole darn bunch in to the deep ocean. Judicial Watch-Breitbart Poll: 77% of Americans Concerned about Government Corruption; Majority See it Getting Worse
September 24, 2013, GOP Trusted More Than Democrats on 10 of 15 Key Issues
did know one here take drafting? or even art classes? look at the title given the graph. clearly the graph is drawn in 3D perspective. it gives the chart the effect of being viewed at an angle. you simply can not draw a straight line across, it doesn’t work that way. you have to use the same vanishing point and horizon line.
Maggie Bloom says:
February 7, 2014 at 7:41 am
“did know one here take drafting? or even art classes? look at the title given the graph. clearly the graph is drawn in 3D perspective. it gives the chart the effect of being viewed at an angle. you simply can not draw a straight line across, it doesn’t work that way. you have to use the same vanishing point and horizon line.”
Maggie, that is perfectly clear. It is also perfectly clear that the White House PR persons used this to be able to boost the visible slop on the TV screen a little. Little psychological tricks everywhere; much more subtle than for instance the rather crude, always changing, horror stories NATO issues every week about Syria.
NotTheAussiePhilM says: @ur momisugly February 7, 2014 at 7:21 am
…..Glenn Beck & co are taking a graphic that was on screen for about 3 secs and a trend line that was on-screen for about 2 secs and making a 4 minute woollen pullover out of it…
Whilst such nonsense is expected from Glenn Back, I do actually expect better of WUWT than to propagate it.
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Why, because you want the people at WUWT to sit politely in the corner and discuss the scientific equivalent of how many angels dance on the head of a pin and leave the propaganda alone so it can continue to be used to brain wash the masses?
I wish this was someone besides Glenn Beck, but when, as Anthony just showed, the MSM is censoring skeptics and the future King of England calls us headless chickens, you take what you can get and hold your nose if necessary.
NotTheAussiePhilM says:
February 7, 2014 at 7:35 am
“This Glenn Beck segment is really just as bad (just with a different agenda)
– and doesn’t deserve any extra exposure on WUWT…”
What exactly was BAD about it, besides the fact that it came from the devil incarnate, Glenn Beck? Two guys explaining manipulation techniques? You don’t like that? Your propaganda skills flourish best in the dark?
NotTheAussiePhilM says:
February 7, 2014 at 7:21 am
“I agree with you
– but I would say that Glenn Beck & WUWT are doing more of the wool pulling in this case…”
You say that Glenn Beck and WUWT are lying, deceiving, manipulating? How so? You got no leg to stand on. You are just an angry impertinent totalitarian statist with no argument at all, otherwise you would have brought it up.
NotTheAussiePhilM says:
“- it would have better illustrated the point.”
Not the point that Holdren selected an arbitrary starting point.
Maggie Bloom says: @ur momisugly February 7, 2014 at 7:41 am
did know one here take drafting? or even art classes? look at the title given the graph. clearly the graph is drawn in 3D perspective….
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Yes, I took both drafting and art in high school and college. Perspective is used to FOOL THE EYE, and that is exactly what was done.
Hey, NotPhilAussiewhatever….THE BLAZE didn’t pick the timeline, Holdren or one of his minions did. All Beck’s guys did was illustrate the chicanery and subterfuge used in the “official” presentation.
Standard operating procedure: when the left’s own words/graphs/illustrations are used to discredit them it’s always the ones illustrating the lie accused of trying to pull a fast one?
Holdren’s propaganda video shows the Obama administration’s true colors. The Obama administration is right on track pushing their agenda to de-develop the US, using the phony, fabricated AGW ‘crisis’ as a means to an end. The US is following the EU who is the world leader in de-development and unemployment.
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=27941
“We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.” – Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation
“A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” – Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor
“A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States. De-development means bringing our economic system into line with the realities of ecology and the world resource situation.” – Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies
“Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control.” – Professor Maurice King
“No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.” – Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the Environment
“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsiblity to bring that about?” – Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme
After somebody sent a link to a Skeptical Science article yesterday, I decided to post a comment there. First thing you need to do is register. I registered with my name and information. The site won’t allow/blocks me from signing in before I’ve even printed a word/thought.
I’ve written numerous articles for our local newspaper and a few other internet places and also comment here on a regular basis under my name, which is of course the one I provided at Skeptical Science.
There must be a group of us that might question statements at that site that are identified and banned from any conversations because of what we might say………..before we state it.
Either that, or it takes days to be registered.
And why did they chose to show mid troposphere temps?
Not near surface lower tropo but mid tropo.
This sort of PR does not happen by accident, so why did they chose that?
Gail Combs,
No, it is not too late, not yet. Mid-term elections are coming soon, and the Dems who want to keep their jobs could certainly turn on our Liar-In-Chief and throw him out. Impeachment only takes a few days, and they have many reasons to do this. I am astonished that a bald-faced liar could take and hold this office, and predict it cannot last much longer.
So why don’t you do your own blog then NotTheAussiePhil ?
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Another oddity , that data stops in 2009 ! That a full presidential term ago.
Hasn’t Dr Holden got access to any more recent data for his presentations? Or did he just prefer to cut off a major section of the data which is not rising and would thus reduce his fitted trend line.
ftp://ftp.ssmi.com/msu/graphics/tlt/plots/rss_ts_channel_tlt_global_land_and_sea_v03_3.png
Lies, damn lies and (climate) statistics.
Again. Follow the source. Always follow the source.
In this case, it’s John Holdren and the Progressives. A quick search of Holdren tells us that this is all about Sustainable Development…
“Development should mean improving human well-being in all 3 dimensions economic, sociopolitical, and environmental”
“Sustainable development should mean doing so by means & to end points consistent with
maintaining the improvements indefinitely”
Some key sustainability appointments
• NOAA: Administrator Jane Lubchenco
• EPA: Administrator Lisa Jackson, Ass’t
Administrator for R&D Paul Anastas
• USGS: Director Marcia McNutt
• USAID: Administrator Raj Shah
• CEQ: Chair Nancy Sutley
• OECC: Director Carol Browner
• OSTP: Assoc Dir for Env’t Shere Abbott
• PCAST: Rosina Bierbaum, Mario Molina,
Barbara Schaal, Dan Schrag
“Societies are not taking the actions that the science indicates are needed and the technology indicates are possible. It’s important to understand why not.”
“The reasons clearly are rooted in human behavior –thus the need to bring to bear understandings from social science and the humanities”
http://www.albany.edu/faculty/caraco/bio320/JohnHoldren_sustainability.pdf
The role of science in changing society and behavior. They need climate change to be catastrophic in the minds of society to create policy changes on a world level.
Always follow the source…trust me, it always comes back to Sustainable Development and the Millennium Development Goals…including with all the big players ie: Hansen, Schmidt, Pachauri, Sachs, the U.N. and Soros that can all be linked to the Earth Institute out of Columbia…..which NASA GISS is part of. Look up their mission and look up their Board of Advisors and look up Sach’s Bio….it’s all there….and spreads out everywhere. Others: RealClimate part of Fenton Communications, ProPublica and on and on….in all aspects of governance, education and society.
It’s the big picture folks.
Is that a real photo of the RED troposphere too? Globull warming must be real. The corrupt politicians told me so. We must give them more power to control us. We must tax and regulate ourselves into dumpsters. Think of the children.
Sigh. In reality, the planet is quite stable. Some of its inhabitants are not.
Apparently these two ‘funny guys’ aren’t familiar the elementary methods used to estimate trends from a set o f data as taught in high school. Why does this not surprise me?
Not the Aussie–“and is just try(ing) to pander to the lowest common-denominator audience.”
A CLUELESS complaint. Pointing out some obvious mistakes in graph interpretation and presentation with wit, humor, and truth are great. When Holdren used this graph, with obvious propoganda in mind, it became a scam- where’s the warming pea??? not where you’re looking in this graph, despite what he said. It was a pure propoganda prop and the guys showed it for what it is.
Holdren could have shown a couple other honest graphs that do show some warming and THEN gone into his spiel that “Gobal Climate Change” is causing all sorts of problems. That would have been an honest propoganda opinion and harder to show up.
It’s worse than we thought! …. The graph isn’t just tilted, they applied a 3D effect so that the start is smaller more compressed (away from you) and the present is expanded (closer).
.. Tricky
Reblogged this on Power To The People and commented:
President Obama and his Administration have already closed their minds up tight and arrived at their conclusion that humanity, not nature, is the primary culprit behind Climate Change.
They ignore facts that debunk their conclusions. For example their claim that CO2 Catastrophic Climate Change is responsible for the Polar Vortex. They ignore the fact that well before the Industrial Revolution Polar Vortex’s existed. Ergo, a reaonalble person would conclude Nature Not Humanity is the Primary Culprit behind Climate Change.
Their unfounded beliefs in CO2 induced Climate Change are enough to condemn humans as the culprit even though the “facts” they cite show their alarmism demonstrates nothing more than natural climate variability.
Do they ever wonder why they come across as a Medieval Inquisitors who condemns anyone who disagrees with their Church’s Climate Change doctrine as “heretics. It appears they need a doomsday scenario to be content. Many primitive cultures condemned dissent as heresy and even burned people at the stake for daring to differ with the orthodoxy of the day. That’s what kept witch doctors employed for so long.
Gail Combs
I wish this was someone besides Glenn Beck
Why? As Willis says, can you provide some direct quotes from Glenn Beck on which you base your opinion?
I think the
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Greg Goodman says:
February 7, 2014 at 8:04 am
And why did they chose to show mid troposphere temps?
Not near surface lower tropo but mid tropo.
This sort of PR does not happen by accident, so why did they chose that?
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The lower trop. graph looks like this: ftp://ftp.ssmi.com/msu/graphics/tlt/plots/rss_ts_channel_tlt_global_land_and_sea_v03_3.png
(Actually the mid has less of a slope) SEE: wattsupwiththat(DOT)com/reference-pages/global-weather-climate/global-temperature/
Of course Glen Beck could have shown this graph of Temperature Lower Stratosphere:
ftp://ftp.ssmi.com/msu/graphics/tls/plots/rss_ts_channel_tls_global_land_and_sea_v03_3.png
DARN! I think they are showing the LOWER and CALLING it the MID!
Can someone double check? (My eyes are not that good)
Lower trend = 0.125/decade
Mid trend = 0.078/decade