I suppose they haven’t learned anything from the last beat down skeptics gave them on their Statue of Liberty Fiasco
Bjørn Lomborg writes:
National Geographic is at it again. They present the world “if all the ice melted” — and they have the temerity to suggest it will happen with more global warming.
“If we continue adding carbon to the atmosphere, we’ll very likely create an ice-free planet, with an average temperature of perhaps 80 degrees Fahrenheit instead of the current 58.”
This, of course, is only the outcome of continuing ever larger carbon emissions for many hundreds of years, something that no one is realistically expecting.
Could we please have a sensible, non-scare conversation back at the venerable National Geographic?
National Geographic’s last scare: http://on.fb.me/1iJR5t6
And here is their new one: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/09/rising-seas/if-ice-melted-map
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[Anthony] Meanwhile both Arctic and Antarctic ice are within normal parameters of standard deviation:
Arctic is about 1 standard deviation below the average line:
![N_stddev_timeseries[1]](http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/n_stddev_timeseries1.png?quality=75)
The Antarctic is above two standard deviations:
![S_stddev_timeseries[1]](http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/s_stddev_timeseries1.png?quality=75)
Globally, sea ice is at normal:
![global.daily.ice.area.withtrend[1]](http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/global-daily-ice-area-withtrend1.jpg?quality=83)
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When I discovered about the stupid issue with the statue of liberty, I have sent a letter personally to the Editor via snail-mail.
Look on the bright side, if the ice melted all at once every congressman would drown.
Gary says: @ur momisugly November 5, 2013 at 9:50 am
“Time to rename the magazine Fantasy Geographic. They still make nice maps, though.”
I prefer Notional Geographic”
Roy Spencer says:
I want to see a “what-if” global temperature map if the sun exploded.
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Point taken, but in the spirit of science fun, XKCD’s “What If” has a lot of fun with outlandish ideas.
http://what-if.xkcd.com/
I seriously wonder if National Geographic might be on a death spiral. Being what it was it seemed to be ripe pickings for the Left to take it over; after all, we just ‘know’ they have a lock on science and intellectualism. And like every other, formerly more or less neutral publication the Left has sunk its claws in, the subscription rates may have gone down. What to do? – environmental disaster stories to grab attention at the news stands. And yet, with each new whopper of a catastrophe the magazine gets taken less seriously. So it just spirals downward. Sad, but in the end, the bankruptcy of the Left gets paid in kind.
5,000 years? Yup, if that life prolongation research pans out REALLY WELL, then I guess our grandkids WILL see all of this.
But is this before or after Hansen’s seas boil? (…with a 22°F rise…)
Anthony, the big difference between these two press releases is that you did not get the government grant (nor the sales figures that NG gets)….
Follow the money.
Ralph
In many sea girt countries a majority of the people live near the coast. When these unscrupulous scientsists threaten the coasts, they are bidding for increased legislation, regulation, and control of the habitable land.
For example,
Let’s do the math, they said a rise of 216 feet over 5,000 years. That comes to about 1/2 an inch per year or 4 feet 4 inches per 100 years. Even if we accept the number and there’s no reason to believe it, the rise is so slow that people have more than enough time to adjust to it.
omnologos says: November 5, 2013 at 10:58 am
When I discovered about the stupid issue with the statue of liberty, I have sent a letter personally to the Editor via snail-mail.
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And that is the way to change things. If an editor gets 10,000 snail-mail letters of complaint on his/her desk, they are likely to take notice and change something. Even though 10,000 people amongst the population of the US is a drop in the ocean, nevertheless 10,000 letters still looks like an intimidating mountain of complaint.
I grew up in a house where Science, Scientific American, and National Geographic were treasured. Their decline is a true catastrophe from AWG.
Haha. The title says “in 5,000 years”.. That will be right in the middle of the next ice age.
How uneducated are these politically motivated media types?
How much energy is required to melt all the ice in Greenland?
http://pathstoknowledge.net/2012/03/12/how-much-energy-is-required-to-melt-all-the-ice-in-greenland/
Seriously though I was terrified before I first started coming here. I’ve recently become a father and we did question bringing children into the world when the threat of global warming seemed so certain and so
imminent. I work with children and many of them are seriously anxious as a result of just this kind of article that sits in the school library. It reminds me of how I worried about nuclear war years ago. Fear is damaging our young who should grow up with optimism and hope.
Their website has a link to contact them. Can’t hurt for everyone to voice their opinion directly.
ngsforum@nationalgeographic.com
One often wonders if the entire staff and contributors of publications like National Geographic believe this crap or is it just a handful of people in key positions pushing their own agenda.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the majority of people associated with NG are quietly cringing in shame at the hijacking of their once prized brand.
What absolute BS
Crispin in Waterloo said that if all the ice melts then it can absorb 23 GT of co2 but there is only 3 GT of co2 in the atmosphere. So does that mean when the planet enters the next hot house period all life becomes extinct ? But equally the warmer temperatures should mean that the oceans will hold less co2 so maybe life survives. As the world would have to heat up before the ice melted that would release extra co2 which would then be reabsorbed by the melting ice. Could make for an interesting graph.
What else would you expect from National Geewe’restupid? Besides pretty pictures, that is.
Years ago someone gave me a coffee mug with a map of the globe on the outside. When you put in hot coffee the coastlines would disappear to show what would happen as Global Warming melted the ice. I used it this morning.
Who gave one to the NG editors? Al Gore?
If it takes more than 5,000 years to melt all the worlds land ice, if we carry on as we are, then that assumes we have 5,000 years worth of oil, coal and gas? I thought we are about half way through or somewhere near peak oil or is that not the case?
looks ok to me,
looking at the maps I see a very small and acceptable percentage change in land area,
especially as the new land of the antarctic and greenalnd etc would be `new land` and you cant suggest that just because some inland areas would be below see level they would automatically be filled with water, and why would there be less vegetation with all that heated water around ?
I dont see the big problem (apart from who would believe that we could influence the earth to do something it wasnt going to do anyway)
Roy Spencer says:
November 5, 2013 at 9:37 am
I want to see a “what-if” global temperature map if the sun exploded.
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A good thought experiment. Another would be to let the Sun’s mass stay the same but turn off that thermonuclear light bulb with its lovely life-promoting heat. I wonder how long the warmists believe life on Earth would continue. Maybe about the time the CO2 freezes out? It would give a new meaning to global warming (and cooling).
I don’t believe that earth can possibly lose its ice as long as there is land at the South Pole.
Wake me up in a 100 million years time when Antarctica has drifted away from the geographic pole.
I’ll believe this crap when I see prestige waterfront properties in Sydney going for a song.
I cancelled my son-in-law’s gift subscription a few years ago. You’d think the head honchos at NG would wake up to themselves with all the cancellations. The fools probably blame the internet.