I regularly get angry emails from people who are convinced that I’m single-handedly destroying the world with my opinion which is supposedly funded by “big oil” and the Koch brothers. Of course, having nothing else, that’s all part of the huge lie people like Dr. Mann likes to push, like this bit of libel over the weekend:
I’m dealing with Dr. Mann’s libel separately, but for the record I’ve never gotten a dime from the Koch brothers, or “big oil”, nor am I a “denier for hire”, and Dr. Mann knows this because he backed down from a similar claim in the past when challenged on it. Now, knowing that, he’s demonstrated malice, fulfilling one of the tests for libel.
That aside, and along the same lines, I recently got an email that included this claim:
“…your pathetic little attempt at pushing climate denialism isn’t working. Places like Real Climate and Skeptical Science are putting your little enterprise to shame.”
So, I thought I’d check and run some numbers to see if I’m shamed or not. Climateers often talk about their climate change cause being a “communications problem”. The numbers I’ve found seem to support that. Witness the new divergence problem:
These are rankings from Alexa.com Lower numbers are better, for example, Google is ranked #1.
It seems that it’s not just globally strong for WUWT, but in the USA too. WUWT is about 8 times more popular in the USA than “Skeptical Science” (SkS), and about 15 times more popular than Real Climate (RC). See the Rank in Country column three:
Look at the bounce rate under Engagement Metrics. Note that over 2/3rds of visitors to SkS don’t engage further. Note also the time on site. WUWT readers spend three times more reading than SkS and almost 9 times more than at RC.
Hmm, well since the email was sent anonymously (as most of the rants are), and I don’t know where the person was located, maybe they were talking about Australia where SkS is located? Maybe that’s where they are kicking our butt? Note column three, Rank in Country (AU):
Eh, guess not- the ratio holds. RC doesn’t even have enough traffic in AU to do a comparison.
Even with Dana Nuccitelli’s signing on with the Guardian and making sure that every time he bashes me and/or WUWT in his column he uses a [nofollow] tag or web citation link to prevent web traffic, it seems that he hasn’t succeeded in keeping WUWT down nor in significantly growing his audience on “Skeptical Science” in the USA or Australia.
Maybe it’s in the UK, where the Guardian is located. Surely SkS is beating me there with all that mass media driven Guardian backed firepower? Note column three, Rank in Country (GB):
Apparently not.
Let’s expand the comparison a bit. My subscription to Alexa allows me to run up to 10 comparisons. I identified what I think to be the most widely read websites on climate that aren’t mixed in with part of a larger organization, making tracking their stats impossible. This of course precludes places like “Climate Progress”, which are part of the larger “Think Progress” or the Guardian, which has many other departments.
While I wish I could run more than 10 on the same graph, here’s what I learned, again lower numbers are better:
Surprisingly, not only is WUWT leading the pack by a significant margin, it has now surpassed the newspaper “Grist” which has become something of a climate centric enterprise. They also have a paid staff.
Note also Al Gore’s “Climate Reality Project”, which is dead last. It appears that Gore’s million$ don’t translate into traffic. That’s some “reality drop” for him.
That bump that Climate Depot got in late July was from being featured on “The Drudge Report” by the way. Good show Marc Morano.
The metrics are also telling:
So to whoever wrote that email, thanks. It made me look deeper.
Truly, it looks like the climateers have a communications problem. People don’t seem to be engaging them like they used to. Personally I think people are seeing through it all, and angry, irrational, rants from people like Mike Mann don’t seem to be helping his cause at all. I can understand their cognitive dissonance though, because in the world where they exist, where everything is grant/funding driven, surely some former TV weather guy in Chico California and his collection of “flying monkeys” (in SkS parlance) can’t possibly be doing what he’s doing without some massive “big oil” funding behind it. Right? Surely the Koch brothers must be secretly paying for it, like Mann thinks. The truth is, WUWT exists on donations, some advertising revenue sharing managed by wordpress.com, and stamina. I couldn’t live on it, but I’m sure that won’t stop people like Dr. Mann from imagining all sorts of nefarious schemes, like his hilarious Christmas calendar episode.
I think that if I was not a broadcaster, I wouldn’t have the stamina to keep WUWT on the air. As a broadcaster, I learned long ago that dead air peppered with occasional feature rants doesn’t keep viewers coming back. It might work for awhile, but eventually people tire of it. That’s the lesson here. We can be thankful that we have so many examples of climate ugliness in the realm of the Climateers, because they drive people to the other side.
But most of all, thanks to my readers and volunteer moderators and contributors, because without all of you, WUWT wouldn’t be where it is.
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Be sure to let us know when a financial need such as the conference fees a few weeks back comes up.
I worked for big oil years ago and can afford $50 in the tip jar from time to time. it makes Mann an honest man when I do.
Some commentors have changed names so you can’t really compare on the basis of names.. Though I don’t know if I was around in 2009, at one time someone else started using my name, I changed mine, they dropped out, and I continued.
Great post, Anthony.
I’m proud to be one of the “flying monkeys” if that’s what I am!!!!
I think this little Mann-Dwarf is getting pretty close to libel here.
He must know, or at least suspect that this big lie about big-oil or Koch-funding is false. I mean most of the skeptic blogs are hosted on WordPress rather than some independent big-bucks private domain. Most of the skeptical bloggers have written openly about their hard times, both financially and also with the technical logistics of managing their websites. Furthermore, if they had this big chunk of money behind them they would no doubt be running massive advertising, especially on TV, rather than the actual realty of word-of-mouth to maintain their level of traffic.
If Mann is somehow not aware of all this then I would believe that he is even dumber than he looks and acts, however that seems unlikely. Therefore I believe this is malicious and consequently, very close to intentional defamation. You should hope he keeps on talking this way, archive all the instances, and act upon them later after consulting with a lawyer that knows this field.
Thanks Anthony for this website. I have visited it routinely over the past 5 years after discovering it, and have enjoyed consistently well written articles and learned a lot about the whole debate. I also really enjoy when you include postings that deal with more general science and technology matters; while that’s not the focus of the site, it’s interesting to learn.
Again, thanks for what you do. You are fighting the good fight.
James Strom says:
October 14, 2013 at 5:03 pm
Being a long time reader, I’m always surprised at how many familiar names are in the comments of those old posts. I was also surprised that the wave of new readers brought in by Climategate hung around – there was little fall off in readership as Climategate faded from the news.
Nobody goes to WUWT any more. It’s too crowded.
🙂
Keep doing what you do, Mr. Watts, humanity will thank you for it (belatedly, as usual).
Even if I don’t always agree with you (re the murderer of 40,000 elephants in particular), it is better to disagree with an honest man than to agree with dishonorable Mann.
Why are liberals like Mann so angry all the time?
Jim G: “And my only gripe is regarding PUBLIC owned corporations which are supposed to be managed in the best interest of shareholders.”
No disagreement there. Of course, the US Government is a public owned corporation. The only real distinction between government as corporation and corporations permitted by government is the idea that being a shareholder is completely voluntary in the latter case. In the former case, not so much.
Wayne: “Love that quote as I sit here by my wood fire de-sequestering carbon ;-D”
Pity. ‘Antidesequestrationism’ is 6 letters short of the bar set by ‘antidisestablishmentarianism.’
Blaming big oil or the Koch brothers is an expression of impotence. The folks in the consensus camp don’t think they are right, they KNOW they are right. So it is impossible to fathom that some website run by volunteers can beat them by a 6 or 8 to 1 margin when all the best and brightest are supposedly in their camp. It has to be a front from some powerful organization who is pulling on the strings. The bigger the boogie man, the less impotent they feel.
The second thing that these impotent folks need to realize is that big oil many refine a lot of product but most of these firms reserves are in natural gas. The real battle for energy generation is between natural gas and coal. The more effective the consensus folks are with their messaging, the better it is for Exxon-Mobile, the Koch brothers and other “oil” companies. This makes them patsies for the boogie men they despise. Perhaps the IPCC really stands for impotent patsies for coal collapse .
Anthony, thanks for your mad dedication that makes all of this possible. I have long held that everyone of importance in the world of climate science reads WUWT, if only to see what’s the latest thing that the skeptics and heretics are up to … very well done, my friend, and at an immense cost in time and tending.
With my highest regards,
w.
Is Michael Mann really the best front man that the Billions in government funding of AGW alarmism can buy? Another example of alarming government waste!
We’re with you, A-th-y — all the way.
While you and the others fight it out down there on the playing field,
we’re here. We don’t always sing in harmony, and sometimes,
we’re a little off key,
(and sometimes, we get into fisticuffs up here in the stands, heh)
but, we’re here.
“…Walk on, walk on…(dear An-th-y),… you’ll never walk alone.”
Here’s to you, Anthony,
and ALL you WUWT warriors for truth,
“… walk on… with hope in your heart(s), …”
and know:
TRUTH WILL WIN.
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“When you’re kicked by a jackass,
consider the source.”
(P.S. Advice from someone who knows (in case you seriously consider doing this): don’t sue Mann; the anguish as a litigant that you will inevitably go through and the free publicity Mann would gain far outweigh the small potential benefit; your stellar reputation shines far too brilliantly to be tarnished in the slightest by the smear of a such a tiny man. Ignore him. That is, after all, what he hates the most. Heh.)
That tweet is so offensively wrong, and certainly known to be wrong. I second Roger’s cookie jar suggestion.
Tim B says:
October 14, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Um, well this is embarrassing, Anthony, but it’s time you knew the truth.
I, and I suspect many others, get paid by the Koch brothers to READ your blog. That’s why your numbers are so high.
Isn’t it a stipulation that you remain anonymous?
It is for me.
Oh, wait… never mind.
WUWT is where citizens of the world learn about the science of global climate interactions, while interacting with other curious citizens of the world. That we do so to help end a horrific scam, a parasitic belief system that has been foisted upon our neighbors and our children, makes our cause true, one of brotherhood and righteousness.
That may sound over the top, but it really isn’t.
Thank you, Anthony
(and Tillsdale, Curry. Eisenbach, et al, and the hundreds of folks whose comments are so much more brilliant that I can hope for. I read your comments and I am proud!)
Michael Mann … furthering the cause of climate skepticism one tweet at a time.
Good on you and your team anthony!
Anthony,
Great blog, you, your mods, contributors do a great job. I really appreciate it and learn something new just about every time I tune in – which is just about every day at least once. Keep it up.
“Is #AnthonyWatts really the best front man the #KochBrothers can buy?”
Better, he’s the best money can’t buy. Something Mann probably has no concept of, someone doing what’s right simply because it’s what’s right.
As an attorney friend of mine likes to say, “Sue the bastard!”
Mann seems to have no compunctions about suing people and, after all, turnabout is fair play…
Too bad neither CA nor PA have criminal defamation laws. But civil is OK. Mikey can’t lie about you with impunity. IMO, which doesn’t count, you don’t qualify as a public figure, despite your great contributions to discussion of important issues. You can probably show that he has damaged not just your reputation, but your business. No doubt you’ve sought better legal counsel than my opinion, but hope you decide to go for it. Give the twit a taste of his own medicine, which proved to have deleterious side effects for him.
For the casual WUWT visitor (or troll), please note Anthony’s traffic graphs use log scales. AKA WUWT is MUCH more preferred…
Please keep up the good work.
Looking at Mann’s twitter bio, is Penn State ALSO saying Anthony Watts is on the big oil payroll?
Penn State needs to clarify it’s connection to Mann’s twitter account. Mann is speaking for himself or the University.
https://twitter.com/MichaelEMann
Michael E. Mann
Michael E. Mann
@MichaelEMann
Climate Scientist, Professor, and Director of Penn State Earth System Science Center. Author of Dire Predictions & The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars
Penn State University, PA · michaelmann.net