I regularly get angry emails from people who are convinced that I’m single-handedly destroying the world with my opinion which is supposedly funded by “big oil” and the Koch brothers. Of course, having nothing else, that’s all part of the huge lie people like Dr. Mann likes to push, like this bit of libel over the weekend:
I’m dealing with Dr. Mann’s libel separately, but for the record I’ve never gotten a dime from the Koch brothers, or “big oil”, nor am I a “denier for hire”, and Dr. Mann knows this because he backed down from a similar claim in the past when challenged on it. Now, knowing that, he’s demonstrated malice, fulfilling one of the tests for libel.
That aside, and along the same lines, I recently got an email that included this claim:
“…your pathetic little attempt at pushing climate denialism isn’t working. Places like Real Climate and Skeptical Science are putting your little enterprise to shame.”
So, I thought I’d check and run some numbers to see if I’m shamed or not. Climateers often talk about their climate change cause being a “communications problem”. The numbers I’ve found seem to support that. Witness the new divergence problem:
These are rankings from Alexa.com Lower numbers are better, for example, Google is ranked #1.
It seems that it’s not just globally strong for WUWT, but in the USA too. WUWT is about 8 times more popular in the USA than “Skeptical Science” (SkS), and about 15 times more popular than Real Climate (RC). See the Rank in Country column three:
Look at the bounce rate under Engagement Metrics. Note that over 2/3rds of visitors to SkS don’t engage further. Note also the time on site. WUWT readers spend three times more reading than SkS and almost 9 times more than at RC.
Hmm, well since the email was sent anonymously (as most of the rants are), and I don’t know where the person was located, maybe they were talking about Australia where SkS is located? Maybe that’s where they are kicking our butt? Note column three, Rank in Country (AU):
Eh, guess not- the ratio holds. RC doesn’t even have enough traffic in AU to do a comparison.
Even with Dana Nuccitelli’s signing on with the Guardian and making sure that every time he bashes me and/or WUWT in his column he uses a [nofollow] tag or web citation link to prevent web traffic, it seems that he hasn’t succeeded in keeping WUWT down nor in significantly growing his audience on “Skeptical Science” in the USA or Australia.
Maybe it’s in the UK, where the Guardian is located. Surely SkS is beating me there with all that mass media driven Guardian backed firepower? Note column three, Rank in Country (GB):
Apparently not.
Let’s expand the comparison a bit. My subscription to Alexa allows me to run up to 10 comparisons. I identified what I think to be the most widely read websites on climate that aren’t mixed in with part of a larger organization, making tracking their stats impossible. This of course precludes places like “Climate Progress”, which are part of the larger “Think Progress” or the Guardian, which has many other departments.
While I wish I could run more than 10 on the same graph, here’s what I learned, again lower numbers are better:
Surprisingly, not only is WUWT leading the pack by a significant margin, it has now surpassed the newspaper “Grist” which has become something of a climate centric enterprise. They also have a paid staff.
Note also Al Gore’s “Climate Reality Project”, which is dead last. It appears that Gore’s million$ don’t translate into traffic. That’s some “reality drop” for him.
That bump that Climate Depot got in late July was from being featured on “The Drudge Report” by the way. Good show Marc Morano.
The metrics are also telling:
So to whoever wrote that email, thanks. It made me look deeper.
Truly, it looks like the climateers have a communications problem. People don’t seem to be engaging them like they used to. Personally I think people are seeing through it all, and angry, irrational, rants from people like Mike Mann don’t seem to be helping his cause at all. I can understand their cognitive dissonance though, because in the world where they exist, where everything is grant/funding driven, surely some former TV weather guy in Chico California and his collection of “flying monkeys” (in SkS parlance) can’t possibly be doing what he’s doing without some massive “big oil” funding behind it. Right? Surely the Koch brothers must be secretly paying for it, like Mann thinks. The truth is, WUWT exists on donations, some advertising revenue sharing managed by wordpress.com, and stamina. I couldn’t live on it, but I’m sure that won’t stop people like Dr. Mann from imagining all sorts of nefarious schemes, like his hilarious Christmas calendar episode.
I think that if I was not a broadcaster, I wouldn’t have the stamina to keep WUWT on the air. As a broadcaster, I learned long ago that dead air peppered with occasional feature rants doesn’t keep viewers coming back. It might work for awhile, but eventually people tire of it. That’s the lesson here. We can be thankful that we have so many examples of climate ugliness in the realm of the Climateers, because they drive people to the other side.
But most of all, thanks to my readers and volunteer moderators and contributors, because without all of you, WUWT wouldn’t be where it is.







These people have obviously NEVER heard the phrases ‘those who live in glass houses, shouldn’t throw stones’ or ‘Those who accuse others, probably are guilty of which they accuse’
Especially with the screaming about ‘big oil’. As far as I’m aware, it seems to be the CAGWers who ARE on the payroll of ‘big oil’.
Reblogged this on gottadobetterthanthis and commented:
Thanks to Anthony Watts! The world is a better place because of you, Anthony. Also, thanks for the perspective.
Pippen Kool says:
October 14, 2013 at 5:37 pm
“but for the record I’ve never gotten a dime from the Koch brothers”
Maybe Mann is basing his statement on your receiving funding from Heartland, and the Koch brothers funding Heartland for the explicit purpose of undermining climate research. I guess I could see how he might come to incorrect conclusions.
REPLY: Maybe, it was a one-time project, for which I only got half funded, and then the criminal formerly known as Gleick got in the middle of it. I approached them about the idea, not the other way around, and they located an independent donor for the project. For the record (and for the umpteenth time) I don’t get any regular funding from Heartland, I never have. All that has been answered on my FAQs page for quite some time: http://wattsupwiththat.com/about-wuwt/faqs/
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I wonder, distinguished blog owner whose name must not be typed, if the Koch brothers actually even donated to the Heartland Institute in the year during which it supported your research, & if so, how much. In 2011 their foundation(s) gave the HI only $25,000.
I’m sure that prorating your share of whatever they did donate over all HI spending wouldn’t amount to much, if anything. Although mostly tax-payer supported against our wishes, Little Mikey has probably gotten an order of magnitude more from Big Oil than you, & directly, not just indirectly.
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Anthony,
Yep, here at WUWT we benefit from ‘The Good, The Bad and The Ugly’, which are respectively: the good host, the bad attitude toward the ideology infecting climate science and the ugly climateers driving readers here.
But, we all know the single reason WUWT is so influential and successful for so long . . . a truly great leader . . . you. And I hope you are blushing when that is said. : )
John
I think Mann actually does think you are funded by big oil Anthony – in my (nonexpert) opinion, his mind has cracked under the pressure, and has convinced himself that he’s the good guy, that his hockey stick is sound, that his message is sincere, and that the only reason you’re getting more attention than him is because of the shadowy figures he imagines are behind your campaign.
If I’m right, he will step up his campaign of libel and try to goad you into suing him, so he can “discover” your correspondence with big oil, and the fat bank account he imagines you have.
The one impression I’ve had from reading the Climategate emails is, despite all the shonky science, they actually, sincerely, believed all along that they were right – any attempt to hide declines was to deny you ammunition, to prevent you from distracting the world from their mission to save mankind.
I know it sounds bonkers, but I think there’s a real chance that the alarmists still sincerely believe.
Since Mann packaged his insinuation as a question, I’m not sure that it is actionable. Whether or not it is, I suggest that one should not waste one’s time on legal battles over petty insults. Continuing to grow this blog is the better answer.
This is my Monday Mirthiness. Love it!
My take on legal action? Too much aggravation. Considering how many people are going to read this post, I’d say you have already exacted proper revenge on the little toad. More people will see his tweet on WUWT than will have seen it on Twitter.
Anthony-the thing that people like Mann will never understand is that in order for people to like whatever “product” you offer, YOU have to be likable too. I love this website, what I learn here, what it prompts me to investigate on my own, what it allows me to pass along to others. But I also like YOU, and the regulars here. Smart, NICE, funny, and REAL people one and all.
It must be just a tad satisfying to know you live rent free in Mann’s head without even trying! 🙂
A most interesting blog, thank you Anthony Watts.
Time on site: WUWT highest, RealClimate lowest. Perfect.
Anthony:
You forgot to mention that WUWT is powered by renewable energy (or at least your home office). You can also compare stats on how “green” the various climate sites are — I’m sure you’d trounce them in that category as well.
Please add my appreciation for your incredible dedication, persistence and hard work.
Fantastic Job Mr. Watts. Keep up the good work. Sites like these are extremely needed in the current cabal. Regards from Belgium
Anthony, you’ve easily beaten them at their own web game. Mann is foolish to say otherwise and almost espouses desperation.
to be honest, every real scientist I speak to, whether they are pro or anti global warming, just wish these people would shut up and go away. Every real scientist I know of understands that their credibility is being damaged by alarmist propaganda that has no basis in reality.
Imagine how it must be to have spent years assessing climate issues using hard science and to be convinced that there is a real signal out there that warrants some measured action. And then along comes some joker who tries to make out that we are immediately facing a 6m rise in sea level or some other such nonsense. I mean every one knows that he/she is a complete fool, but consider what it would be like to then be tarred with the same brush, even though your message is much more moderate.
Anthony, perhaps some day you will be a saint or a knight; I don’t know, but there isn’t a sufficient honorific to do justice to what you are doing. Thank you!
Don’t sue. Michael Mann will claim you are trying to silence him, he will claim to be a martyr, he will claim he hit a nerve. In short, it would be at best a Pyrrhic victory. The best thing to do is to respond with rational, calm responses. Anybody who isn’t a religious zealot for the cause will see the difference between a real scientist and a real hypocrite.
Facts are the mortal enemy of people like Michael Mann. Keep up the good work. I read this site daily because it is full of verifiable information. That alone will slay Michael Mann. Eventually. (But don’t cry for him, he won’t ever be a pauper.)
Better traffic than Grist! That is an amazing accomplishment.
One of many reasons I visit WUWT so often is the 3 – 10 new articles every day. I don’t know how Anthony does it. ‘Stamina’ seems like too mild a word. Maybe ‘mission’ is a more accurate explanation.
Someone had to do it — and Anthony stepped up to the plate.
WUWT has what alarmist blogs lack: the courage to allow comments from all sides to be published. Alarmist blogs lack that courage. They heavily censor skeptics’ comments, even altering the wording of posts [SkS has actually done that]. They routinely delete’ comments that refute their narrative. Who wants that?
Alarmist blogs have become thinly-trafficked echo chambers, populated by like-minded head-nodders. That is no fun. Spirited debate is where the action is! If a comment cannot stand the WUWT peer review process, everyone can see it. Eventually, only the truth is left.
OK, I’m so wound up, another donation is on the way! ☺
shenanigans24 says: “Wikipedia was no help”
Wankerpedia has a fatal flaw. Resident trolls there can change any entry to coincide with their mentally-deficient, misguided, misinformed, maniacal or malicious beliefs.
[Always avoid alliteration! — mod.☺]
Is Mann’s comment endorsed by his employer, Penn State University?
The university ALLOWS their page
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/Mann/about/contact.php
to link to Mann’s twitter account. Mann’s twitter page also has no disclaimer that it is only his opinion and NOT the university.
Also, did Mann post his comment from a University Computer? Is the comment a University authorized activity?
http://guru.psu.edu/policies/AD20.html
Policy AD20 COMPUTER AND NETWORK SECURITY
Policy
II. RESPONSIBILITIES RELATED TO ACCESS TO AND USE OF COMPUTER AND NETWORK RESOURCES:
System Users
f. Using accounts or network access only for the purposes for which they were authorized and only for University-related activities.
Anthony,
We should all tweet this YouTube link to Mann. It is a great one liner from the movie ‘The Outlaw Jose Wales ‘
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_4e8iAofnrw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D_4e8iAofnrw
Apropos to Mann’s crap tweets, n’est ce pas?
Wow, funny.
John
I am happy to have contributed to the success of this site. Don’t remember how many years I have been reading here–it’s been a lot–and I have learned a lot. I don’t comment so much any more–too many people are way smarter than me. However, if you get it into your head, Anthony, to sue the little mann, I offer my services pro bono, and I am licensed in PA, too. (Having said that, as one other commenter said previously, you are probably best off just ignoring the little mann.)
Anthony, I’ve had eyes on you for a long time and you have my respect.
I also have eyes on others that I have little or no respect. Sometimes I respond.
I just keep an eye on things. Stand tall as I’m only one of many. You are a good man.
I liked this: “…dead air peppered with occasional feature rants doesn’t keep viewers coming back”
While I fully realize this idea sounds rather idiotic. But what if it’s brilliant? 🙂
Create Watts BlogSuit page for lawyers, legal aids and law students to chime in anonymously to compile the work for a lawsuit case. Maybe much of the case work would be donated greatly reducing the paid lawyer cost.
It would be just like WUWT compiling the case against AGW.
Contributors and readers could dispute, refine and add to the various suppositions etc.
Or not?
It was only a passing thought.
I’ve brought Mann’s constant Big Oil b.s.to light as well. If “Don’t Sell Your Coat” or my next book earns some real dough ten years from now when global cooling turns out to have been a better prediction than what Al Gore was peddling, I’ll be alright with that. In the meantime, unfortunately, my vow of poverty is all too real.