Many Australians are celebrating the win of Tony Abbott and his coalition government as a vote by the populace against the much hated Carbon Tax ramrodded by former prime minister Julia Gillard.
David Elder of Australia, commenting on this event at WUWT, condensed what many of us feel about global warming and environmentalism into a single sentence.
A great victory over the radical green extreme. We here in Oz have found WUWT invaluable in this cause. There has got to be a better way of stewardship for the planet than by scaring the hell out of everyone.
Indeed.
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I have spent more time than most people walking and climbing on “the environment” because it gives me pleasure. Those who label themselves “green” also need to come to terms with the fact that the rest of us can care just as much, if not more, and that they do not own any moral high ground.
You don’t need to have a religion to think that murder is a very bad thing.
“Perhaps worth remembering one of the first websites to campaign effectively against the global warming scam was Australian. The pioneering “Still Waiting for Greenhouse” run by the late John Daly first opened my eyes to the nonsense & lies of the global warming fraudsters.
The site has been inactive for many years now, with the last posting in 2005. How sad that John never saw his pioneering work so conclusively vindicated.”
I second that!
@Kim at 11:48 pm +2
It brings a whole new meaning to the term “Carbon Footprint”
New term: “Carbon Bootprint“: The Government’s “Carbon Pollution” police powers.
BBould says:
September 8, 2013 at 7:47 am
I wonder what stance they will take when CO2 is found NOT to cause any appreciable warming of the planet? What can they ban next to still remain in control?
Believe it will either be water vapor- or oxygen. Both obviously ‘tools of the devil’………..
There will be severe job cuts in The Department of Climate Change, some 4,000 I believe, to compensate for the loss of revenue from the carbon tax. I am not sure what these people achieve come Friday.
Or, rather, “trying” to scare the hell out [of] everyone.
Stefan v says:
September 8, 2013 at 2:09 am
A note of caution….Abbot & Co are also mere politicians. The lesser of two evils is still evil.
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Stefan, your post reminds me of the difference between a pessimist and an optimist: The pessimist votes for least objectionable of the candidates relative to their own purposes, the optimist chooses the candidate which best represents their purpose.
Thus, you have the best choice equaling the least objectionable, but it is still the best. And that is with the same set of candidates. So saying the least evil is still evil is still a pig that won’t fly.
BBould says:
September 8, 2013 at 7:47 am
“I wonder what stance they will take when CO2 is found NOT to cause any appreciable warming of the planet? What can they ban next to still remain in control?”
Terror and War On Terror is the new Global Warming. One day you fund the terrorists, the next day you fight them. Terror Park, like Jurassic Park. AK(47)A Syria.
The scientists who need to prostitute themselves can make studies about how to make terrorists use only renewable materials. I suggest Sarin-laden Trebuchets.
You dont have to look far for Tony’s real beliefs, he got a briefing from Ian Plimer several years ago, he just couldnt say then what he really believes, but I wouldnt expect us to wait long for the scientific review lead by real scientists for a change. Tim Flannery – still our climate commissioner – should be packing his bags right now. Yes climate is only a small part of the reason for the Gillard/Rudd demise, shear incompetence and infighting were the main reasons. With regard to the Senate – dont expect anything much too soon, from the strange anachronism of our system, the Senate changeover does not happen until July next year and it is still dominated by the labor green alliance until then. Even then it will be a little like some candy bars – contains a sprinkling of nuts – so who knows what we will eventually get. I would expect an effective reduction in the carbon tax rate – long before any repeal of the law.
Happy voter –
ps – in my electorate it is still undecided – with only 70 votes in it – so maybe my vote will have counted?
@ur momisugly Baa Humbug
I’ll add to your historical recount, might be interesting for our international friends…
The vote was to be taken on the ETS, there was a grass roots revolt from the public and the Liberal Parties phone system melted down with the number of calls to stop the legislation. They had never seen the number of contacts, ever, truly unprecedented. The legislation TO THIS DAY permits the government to enter your house WITHOUT WARRANT to check what light bulbs you use !
This day is known as the “The day the electorate went nuts” – Tony Abbott.
On the back of this revolt Tony elected to challenge Malcolm Turnbull and won by a single vote on a platform of dumping the ETS (which they did with their Senate majority- Abbott kept his word on this)
Yes, Tony Abbott knows the depth of his commitment on the Carbon Tax, I’m sure, but he hasn’t yet promised to act on the other sops to the greens like the Renewable Energy Target, or repudiating Kyoto, or even calling for the dumping of the IPCC in the UN.
Sunspot says:
September 8, 2013 at 1:57 pm
Don’t worry too much about that Sunspot, as many who work there don’t believe the meme that they had to support to ensure the salary kept coming. For some it was an incredible strain to conceal their true thoughts from their fellow workers due to the incredible vehemence and vilification and instant loss of job that would come if they were reported as “open to different views on the subject” They knew the line that must never be crossed and kept their heads down as it has been a difficult time economically to keep food on the table, educate your kids and pay off large mortgages in a time of rapidly rising prices, rates, taxes, and in colder Canberra huge energy bills, with everything being much more expensive, housing, childcare, living in the Canberra Capital (an annexed portion of the State of New South Wales). Privately and between trusted friends they could express the truth in typical Australian direct language, so some will be relieved that this strain will be lifted and their interest is now on how those vindictive supervisors and meme promoters will survive as reality sets in.
Hopefully the universities and organisation like the C.S.I.R.O. and the Bureau of Meteorology will similarly face reality of a government that does not support the waste and effort that has gone into creation of propaganda, again many of the scientists and researchers dislike the falsity of the output that is demanded of them, but have seen the vicious treatment of those that had the temerity to speak out and none of them can afford become a target.
I speaking with some, there was a feeling of hopelessness, of being trapped and an enormous expression of relief that they played a part in bringing down this house of cards by their vote for a new government.
I wonder if the ABC and the other scare promoting media will seek out and report for all to see what has been a great travesty of green enforcement and promotion in this country.
It seems to be back now; I suspect you tripped the “den**r” verboten vord filter!!
Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition. This will be a very instructive drama: elected government vs. opposed entrenched bureaucracy, pushing a self-empowering meme it would be suicidal to abandon.
On the flip side, in an extreme reverse scenario, how would a “heads down” sceptic scientist who’d survived by silence, or even worse insincere support of the prior meme, now establish his bona fides as a sceptic/honest researcher? After all, anyone who sold out once is always for sale.
Ken B says:
September 8, 2013 at 5:13 pm
True enough there are innocent people caught up in the web that must toe the line in order to keep their job and pay the bills. I also agree that the CSIRO needs to alter their charter back to productive R&D rather than propaganda.
@bobl and others – much keeps being made of the fact that Abbott rolled Turnbull by one vote in 2009. I wish people would remember that Abbott was re-elected un-opposed as Coalition leader after the 2010 election.
We have a set of local rules down under, with a bit of a larrikin spirit.
In early 2012, the State of Queensland had an election where the left-leaning leader Anna Bligh was replaced by a former Army major and right-leaning Campbell Newman. Just as Tony Abbot has been elected to replace Kevin Rudd.
As told in an Andrew Bolt blog,
“QUEENSLAND Premier Campbell Newman has ordered Anna Bligh’s husband to begin dismantling green energy programs he helped create, as the new LNP government moved to slash environmental spending to offset the federal carbon tax…
We want him to unravel those programs ‘cause he’s the bloke who set them up,” Mr Newman said.
Mr Newman denied his government was trying to manage out Mr Withers, an assistant director-general who set up the Office of Climate Change when his wife became premier in 2007.”
Brian H says:
September 8, 2013 at 9:47 pm
On the flip side, in an extreme reverse scenario, how would a “heads down” sceptic scientist who’d survived by silence, or even worse insincere support of the prior meme, now establish his bona fides as a sceptic/honest researcher? After all, anyone who sold out once is always for sale.
Brian
There comes a time when you have to walk a mile in another man’s shoes, to understand their particular circumstances, it is always easy to put down another or espouse an ethical goal that others should aspire to, but for one reason or another that person makes a choice based upon their circumstances at the time.
Women sometimes understand this more than men when deciding on the choices to be made to hold their families together rather than abandoning them, its nice to be moral and ethical but that won’t always put the needed reality on the table.
Sure a researcher may be well remunerated in the job they hold, but if they morally object, is there any other position for them, especially in a highly specialized field of work/research.
I try to walk that mile before I judge another if I can, but by the same token if you find that person wanting after due investigation, sure condemn their lack of integrity, perhaps they will also.
Here are some examples of why we changed governments:
and
Stupid wastrels, pandering to the Greens due to the hung parliament. There was never an opportunity wasted by the Labor government to spend, spend, spend OUR money.
Kim says:
This woz one of the things wot dun it :- http://imgur.com/a/VxYDn .
Great cartoons 10/10.. Thankyou kim.
Patrick says:
September 8, 2013 at 6:57 am
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Australia is a commodity surplus nation (like Canada). Being energy independent is meaningless if you are a net exporter (exports minus imports).
The bigger problem for Australia is the fact they raped and pillaged the mining industry during the good times and find themselves in trouble only in a worldwide slowdown in commodities. I don’t think the mining companies will forget that, even if Oz declares itself open for business. Meanwhile China has been actively investing in other countries (many of them poor African countries). There is a change in momentum going on and Australia will need more than a few years of good behaviour to win back long term investment. This inertia could hurt the new government despite their best intentions.
First Oz, now Norway.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e953b5a4-195b-11e3-83b9-00144feab7de.html#axzz2eRtzfksX
Thank you Anthony and others for the kind remarks.
I think Abbott is an honest politician and will move to get rid of the carbon tax. He does face an obstacle in our senate or upper house; Abbott may not have the numbers there. But at least his election puts paid to further carbon taxes, emission trading schemes and the like. These are pointless indeed destructive for Australia to undertake unless the rest of the world does likewise – a large caveat. Especially with the extra problem of no significant global temperature rise for about 16 years.
Abbott also hopes to bring in a ‘direct action’ plan to pay us as positive incentives to reduce CO2. The methods proposed seem of variable merit – I am sceptical about paying people to sequester CO2 in soil for example. But the worst excesses of the extreme green movement have been slowed.