Climate Craziness of the Week: Global Warming to cause ocean to lose its distinctive smell, and clouds, and maybe some other stuff

Stones on a Rocky Ocean Beach

Stones on a Rocky Ocean Beach (Photo credit: epSos.de)

Over at Grist, where “burnt out” David Roberts just threw in the towel, the craziness continues with a new alarmist writer:

Vanishing ocean smell could also mean fewer clouds

By John Upton

Next time you’re at the beach take a deep, long sniff: That special coastal scent might not last forever. While you’re at it, put on some extra sunscreen: As that smell dwindles, cloud cover could, too.

The unique oceanside smell that flows over your olfactory organs is loaded with sulfur — dimethylsulfide, to be exact, or DMS. It’s produced when phytoplankton decompose. And it’s a fragrant compound that’s as special as it smells: In the atmosphere it reacts to produce sulfuric acid, which aids in the formation of clouds.

But it’s a smell that’s endangered by climate change. Experiments have linked the rising acidity of the world’s oceans to falling levels of DMS.

Gosh, it’s just double plus terrifying. Marc Morano quips:

New Warmist Fear: Global warming causing the oceans to lose their smell! Oceans unique odor is a ‘smell that’s endangered by climate change’ — ‘The real horror might be raising kids in a world where the only place you can smell the ocean is Bath & Bodyworks.’

Kramer’s fragrance “The Beach” might also be a last refuge.

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MonicaS

Your post is great!
What do you think about this?
http://www.masterresource.org/2013/07/global-warming-ills-2/

Reblogged this on CACA and commented:
Morano: New Warmist Fear: Global warming causing the oceans to lose their smell! Oceans unique odor is a ‘smell that’s endangered by climate change’ — ‘The real horror might be raising kids in a world where the only place you can smell the ocean is Bath & Bodyworks.’
hehe

Latitude

…it’s a half degree
that was discovered through adjusting past temps to show a greater slope in increase

Bruce Cobb

There’s a seemingly endless supply of fibs that the climate liars can come up with. They just love to double-down on their “threats”, one playing on people’s emotions (ocean smell going away), the other just your ordinary everyday positive feedback loop “threat”. What have they got to lose now, though? In for a penny, in for a pound. Might as well go whole hog.

@njsnowfan

OT Anthony, Seems the USCGC Healy is on a research mission to the North pole, Teachers on the Ice
This teachers on the ice to the N pole expedition is taking place,
This is what they say :
The purpose of this research is to “prove or disprove a theory of the Little/Mini Ice Age”, and much more, which will be explained to me as the cruise continues.
http://www.dannyblas.com/search?updated-max=2013-08-21T11:17:00-07:00&max-results=7
http://www.dannyblas.com/
My tweet before digging and found out why the USCGC Healey is burning Tax Payer $$$
https://twitter.com/NJSnowFan/status/372735791945887744/photo/1
If the USCGC Healey goes to the North pole then it will be the Second Ice/Destroying Breaking ship to visit the N pole this summer

@njsnowfan

Supper Mann has been spotted on the Arctic Ice.
http://www.dannyblas.com/2013/08/arctic-expedition-day-10-teachers-at.html
Don’t copy and paste the picture. All images, videos, and works are owned exclusively by Danny Blas, unless noted otherwise.
http://www.dannyblas.com/

Steve

Did he just say what I thought he said? “In the atmosphere it reacts to produce sulfuric acid, which aids in the formation of clouds.” Aren’t companies spending tons of money to remove sulfur from their emissions because it forms sulfuric acid which is supposedly a bad thing? Which is it? Good if produced by oceans, but bad if produed by evil corporations?

JimS

At times like these, it is difficult to find an appropriate response, except to say the obvious that the CAGW crowd is getting rather desperate now that global temperatures have remained flat for the last 15 years, and they need to divert the public’s attention away from this fact as much as possible.
However, picking up from a comment to this same article elsewhere, I am still chuckling over it as it bears repeating: “Good! Perhaps the new ocean smell will cover up the stench of CAGW.”

JJ

But it’s a smell that’s endangered by climate change. Experiments have linked the rising acidity of the world’s oceans to falling levels of DMS.
Would somebody please tell these dip$#!^$ that ocean acidity is not climate.

Tom in Florida

So the ocean has gone from being described as becoming “more acidic” to “the rising acidity of the oceans”. One may be able to make the argument that the first is technically true although “less alkaline” is a more correct description, however the second directly implies that the oceans are presently acidic.

Tom J

Ok, so global warming will affect DMS. But, I think more importantly is the question, ‘how will it affect PMS?’

John

So Upton is saying he wants acid rain?

Chris @NJSnowFan

I visited the beach at the NJ Shore after Sandy to help a friend and the ocean/bay smelled like Crap.
I found out latter that is because they were dumping 1 billion of gallons of Raw sewage into the water ways a day because power was out and no back up Generators were in place to run the sewage treatment plants.
I was back at the beach last week and the ocean smelled fine again.
It is amazing all the BS the warmist will come up with to keep the funding going.
I have noticed lattley the wording has changed some, the Could and It’s are going missing from their so called studies. That means one thing to me, the warmist are getting desperate.

Chris @NJSnowFan

Could and If’s

Julian Flood

DMS production can be altered by many things, not just an unmeasured change in pH. Nutrient variation is an obvious one, with dissolved silica being an example. When the ocean blooms after the winter it first grows diatoms which dominate until they hit the silica buffer. Then the calcareous phytoplankton take over. Farming has upped the run-off of dissolved silica.
It’s going to be very amusing if the global warming scare is all the fault of farming or sewage run-off.
JF

Tallbloke’s Tim Channon noticed something odd; the Belgians have sense of humour.
No, I don’t think so.
SIDC is the world’s Solar Influences Data Analysis Center.
Note words Solar Influences
Could it possibly be the climate?
Now, most of us are aware of something called ‘solar polar magnetic field reversal’ subject that SIDC is currently preoccupied with.
We all also heard about plight of the polar bears and penguins in current global warming epoch.
So SIDC illustrates their front page (http://sidc.oma.be/) with an extremely happy snoozing polar bear with no shortage of snow and ice, and accompanied with an unlikely prop-powered penguin.
http://sidc.oma.be/news/211/Picture0.png
The actual article page illustration is even more intriguing, http://sidc.oma.be/news/211/Picture6.png
to me it suggest ‘snowball earth’ with polar bear greeting penguins somwhere in the mid Atlantic, holding Hansen’s model of overheated globe as a reminder of now instinct humans and their climate science folly.
SIDC and you and I know that solar activity is winding down, the Earth will cool somewhat, but ‘snowball Earth’, that is overdoing it a smidgen.
I wonder if SIDC knowws something about Solar Influences the rest of us don’t.
🙂

Jimbo

Is there anything co2 can’t do?

Abstract
Potential impact of climate change on marine dimethyl sulfide emissions
….At 2 × CO2, the model estimates a small increase of global DMS flux to the atmosphere (+2%) but with large spatial heterogeneities (from −15% to +30% for the zonal mean)……
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1034/j.1600-0889.2003.042.x/abstract

Gail Combs

Steve says: @ August 28, 2013 at 9:13 am
Did he just say what I thought he said? “In the atmosphere it reacts to produce sulfuric acid, which aids in the formation of clouds.”….
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It is even funnier than that.
From The WUWT Hot Sheet for Monday August 26th, 2013

It’s baaaaaaack….

Eastern US water supplies threatened by a legacy of acid rain
Noted ecologist Gene Likens, founding director of the Cary Institute of Ecosystem Studies and a co-discoverer of acid rain, was among the study’s authors. The extent of alkalinity change in streams and rivers exceeded his expectations: “This is another example of the widespread impact humans are having on natural systems. Policymakers and the public think that the acid rain problem has gone away, but it has not.”

So do we get to tell ecologist Gene Likens, founding director of the Cary Institute of Ecosystem Studies that he has the WRONG Villian? After all it MUST BE TRUE if it is publist at GRIST!

highfligh56433

…hmmmm…where do these clowns come from??? chemistry 101…..ocean is very high in buffers that neutralize acids and alkaloids. ….yawn…the temp changes brought on by el nino and la nina are far greater. And the temperature changes of winter to summer currents are far greater. And….yawn…little ocean critters just keep having a great day!
And: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/12/27/the-ocean-is-not-getting-acidified/

Gail Combs

Darn, fumble fingers strikes again publist = published

Jimbo

How less can be more.

Abstract
…….The GCM was run in transient mode under the IPCC/IS92a radiative forcing scenario. By 2086, the change simulated in annual integrated DMS flux is around 20% in ice-free waters, with a greater increase of 45% in the seasonal ice zone (SIZ). Interestingly, the large increase in flux in the SIZ is not due to higher in situ production but mainly because of a loss of ice cover during summer–autumn and an increase in sea-to-air ventilation of DMS……….
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2003TellB..55..966G

I wonder how the oceans smelled when co2 was 2,000ppm?

kadaka (KD Knoebel)

The unique oceanside smell that flows over your olfactory organs is loaded with sulfur — dimethylsulfide, to be exact, or DMS. (…)

But it’s a smell that’s endangered by climate change. Experiments have linked the rising acidity of the world’s oceans to falling levels of DMS. (…)

Dimethyl sulfide? That’s found in flatus emissions. From the cutting-edge science experts at the Australian Broadcasting Commune:
http://www.abc.net.au/spark/smelly/begone/begone04.htm

They found that the smell of flatus comes from various sulphur-containing compounds. The compounds in a typical flatus are hydrogen sulphide (1.06 micro mol/L) methanethiol (0.21 micro mol/L) and dimethyl sulphide (0.08 micro mol/L). The judges thought that hydrogen sulphide smelt like “rotten eggs” and methanethiol like “decomposing vegetables”, while dimethyl sulphide actually smelt “sweet”.

Thanks to global warming, the ocean will smell less like a sweet fart?

pat

Next article to grab headlines: CO2 Shall Cause Oceans To Become Rotting Cesspits.
These authors reveal a certain panic mixed with infantile one-upsmanship and a great deal ill education in the areas they profess expertise.

Rhoda R

So, if decomposing plankton, etc. don’t give off dimethyl sulfide anymore what WILL they be off gassing?

JimS

@pat
An animal in the headline always grabs more attention, e.g., “Climate Change Is Destroying Penguin Population in Antarctica.” The content of such an article would be about how the collapsing ice from global warming is falling on the penguins’ heads and killing them all. Maybe I should submit something like this to The Onion. LOL!

DirkH

JimS says:
August 28, 2013 at 10:13 am
“Maybe I should submit something like this to The Onion.”
The Onion has outlived its usefulness as it is no more capable of producing content that differentiates itself from mainstream news.

jai mitchell

Here is the paper in Nature that was conveniently not referenced in the above article
http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate1981.html
Global warming amplified by reduced sulphur fluxes as a result of ocean acidification
Katharina D. Six, Silvia Kloster, Tatiana Ilyina, Stephen D. Archer, Kai Zhang & Ernst Maier-Reimer
Nature Climate Change (2013) doi:10.1038/nclimate1981 Received 18 September 2012 Accepted 17 July 2013 Published online 25 August 2013
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Here we establish observational-based relationships between pH changes and DMS concentrations to estimate changes in future DMS emissions with Earth system model climate simulations. Global DMS emissions decrease by about 18(±3)% in 2100 compared with pre-industrial times as a result of the combined effects of ocean acidification and climate change. The reduced DMS emissions induce a significant additional radiative forcing, of which 83% is attributed to the impact of ocean acidification, tantamount to an equilibrium temperature response between 0.23 and 0.48 K. Our results indicate that ocean acidification has the potential to exacerbate anthropogenic warming through a mechanism that is not considered at present in projections of future climate change.
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-unless you knew already, sulfur compounds in the atmosphere help to reflect sunlight away from the earth and lead to increases in cooling. This is the reason that the earth gets colder after a stratospheric volcano eruption.

Gary Pearse

Well given the observation that the highest ocean surface temperatures achievable are ~31C (equatorial zone) as a result of the Eschenbach Effect, the sea down there should not smell at all. I spent some time in the equatorial zone in Africa and I recall a pretty universal smell to the sea.

JimS

@DirkH
“The Onion has outlived its usefulness as it is no more capable of producing content that differentiates itself from mainstream news.”
Given the magic of dry humour and the heading under which these comments come, I appreciated that comment beyond imagination.

john robertson

To be replaced by the fragrance of climatology ?
I think the ocean be much less malodorous.

Dimethyl sulfide, has a nice smell? If you like the smell of overcooked cabbage, maybe. The stuff in a liter bottle doesn’t smell at all good.

kadaka (KD Knoebel)

From jai mitchell on August 28, 2013 at 10:35 am:

Here is the paper in Nature that was conveniently not referenced in the above article

You forgot to co-bitch about not providing the link to the originating Grist article, where that paper’s link is found:
http://grist.org/news/vanishing-ocean-smell-could-also-mean-fewer-clouds/
Where it’s mentioned there was also an “explainer article” in Nature:
http://www.nature.com/news/rising-ocean-acidity-will-exacerbate-global-warming-1.13602
From which was quoted:

On a global scale, a fall in DMS emissions due to acidification could have a major effect on climate, creating a positive-feedback loop and enhancing warming. …
In a ‘moderate’ scenario described by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which assumes no reductions in emissions of heat-trapping gases, global average temperatures will increase by 2.1 to 4.4 °C by the year 2100.
The model [used for the new research] projected that the effects of acidification on DMS could cause enough additional warming for a 0.23 to 0.48 °C increase if atmospheric CO2 concentrations double. The moderate scenario projects CO2 doubling long before 2100.

Could, positive-feedback loop, IPCC, “increase by 2.1 to 4.4 °C by the year 2100”, the model projected…
All this good juicy and obviously-truthful stuff in the main article, and you “conveniently” don’t provide the link?

jai mitchell says:
August 28, 2013 at 10:35 am

-unless you knew already, sulfur compounds in the atmosphere help to reflect sunlight away from the earth and lead to increases in cooling. This is the reason that the earth gets colder after a stratospheric volcano eruption.

That’s not the point of the reduced DMS emissions, anything they turn into will be washed out of the atmosphere long before they can get to the stratosphere.
DMS is involved with one of the several steps behind the Svensmark hypothesis.
Plankton die, rot, release DMS. DMS leaves the water, transforms into sulphate. Cosmic rays trigger showers of muons, which reach the lower atmosphere and ionize air and suphates, which bind together and grow to form condensation nuclei in what otherwise is clean, supersaturated air. Clouds form and reflect sunlight.
Much more information is available elsewhere, but that’s the capsule summary.

Does John Upton know the “special coastal scent” is rotting vegetation, rotting fish, rotting plankton and the odd rotting dolphin?

Byron

I think I know that gal at Bath and Bodyworks he’s talking about.

AJB

vukcevic says August 28, 2013 at 9:47 am

So SIDC illustrates their front page (http://sidc.oma.be/) with an extremely happy snoozing polar bear with no shortage of snow and ice, and accompanied with an unlikely prop-powered penguin.

Maybe the penguin is clanging a pair of cymbals, trying to wake up the snoozing polar bear field strength. Or someone’s gorged one too many chocolate liqueurs.

‘dimethylsulfide, … it’s produced when phytoplankton decompose. And it’s a fragrant compound.’
“Fragrant” is an understatement.
It has been identified as one of the primary odorants in feces: “Volatile organic compounds from feces and their potential for diagnosis of gastrointestinal disease”, Garner, et al., June 2007
The FASEB Journal vol. 21 no. 8 1675-1688

Stephen Skinner

“While you’re at it, put on some extra sunscreen: As that smell dwindles, cloud cover could, too.”
??? Who chooses to go to the beach when it’s cloudy as I don’t ever recall anyone I know saying “great, it’s cloudy, lets go to the beach”.

One has to wonder when AGW is going to be blamed for the heartache of Psoriasis.

Skiphil

Funny, I’ve always disliked that “ocean smell” along shoreline, and I’ve long associated it with “rotting seaweed” although I didn’t have a scientific knowledge of what causes it….. Anyway, I wouldn’t miss that smell one bit…. However, like many Alarmist memes, this one is probably more fragrant b.s.

Any sailor will tell you that the ocean has no smell. Land smells. That “sea smell” is the smell of decaying vegetation at the shoreline.

You mean… in years to come, children won’t even know what a beach smells like? Just checking.

higley7

“But it’s a smell that’s endangered by climate change. Experiments have linked the rising acidity of the world’s oceans to falling levels of DMS.”
Since ocean acidity HAS NOT BEEN RISING as they claim and has remained within the normal range, this “research” must be either bogus or poorly done. Just bad science

page488

Oh, my………………….what floors me is that this stuff actually gets reported1

Pathway

More CO2 means more biota which leads to more rotting which leads to more SO2 which leads to more nuclei which leads to more precipitation. Problem fixed.

Steve T

Ocean acidity ?
Another Carbon Di-oxymoron?
SteveT

JimS

I love to smell the ocean in the morning. It is a sign of CAGW victory! LOL!

Chris Moffatt

The beaches of my northern youth were much more “ocean smelling” and that was sixty or more years ago. The reason may have been phytoplanktons but i’m more inclined to the belief that it was rotting seaweed. And of course there was less CO2 around. Last week I spent a few days on the Outer Banks of NC. No rotting seaweed and no “ocean smell” even when one actually entered the water. But there were plenty of clouds – some days 10/10ths all day (and night). I think I need a government grant to spend a lot more time on the Outer Banks to study this hypothesis as the evidence right now seems tenuous and contradictory. I’d promise to spend most of the time in or near the water…..

Chad Wozniak

Next you know someone will get a government grant to research how CAGW increases the flatulence of rodents.

sophocles

Another one putting the cart before the horse.
Warming occurs when cloud cover over the oceans decreases. Warming
reduces or cooling begins as cloud cover increases. It’s not the other way
around.
A good analogy is the process by which temperature in green houses is
managed by drawing curtains over the glass roof panels to cool the green
house (akin to more clouds) or drawing them back to further warm the
greenhouse (akin to fewer clouds).
Cloud cover over the oceans has been steadily increasing most of this decade,
indicating a cooling trend. Graphs of ocean cloud cover are maintained by Bob
Tisdale at his great blog