I’ve covered this issue before, in fact some of my work is used in this new video which illustrates how alarmism in the media is aided by selective photography and Photoshop trickery. It gores hand in hand with this recent essay: Climate Persuasion – or how to ignore data and influence people
Watch this video which shows several examples:
Global Warming revisited is a new video series from the Galileo Movement that reviews the current state of the Climate Change Debate. In this first video we look at the tricks Media and Alarmists use to portray steam as pollution.
For more information please visit http://www.galileomovement.com.au.
The Galileo Movement seeks to foster open and free discussion of major scientific issues, notably the current debate regarding man-made climate change.
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Houdini was a piker compared to these wizards!
Looks like a Freudian slip in 2nd sentence!
Inaccuracy in the movie: The steam coming out of the cooling towers comes from the water cooling the steam used in the steam turbines. It is not the steam coming out of the turbines. We recycle that steam into feedwater. The steam coming out of the cooling towers went through the Condenser which condensed the steam back into a liquid for which then gets picked up by feed pumps. The pumps force the water through feed water heaters that slowly increase the temperature closer to boiling so that when it get back to the boiler it takes less to boil it again.
As I have just demonstrated though, trying to explain this WILL NOT win you any friends or influence any people, it is boring. As soon as I said condenser, half the people left.
The interesting part of the discussion is most of what we see coming out of the actual smoke stack on coal plants is steam. There are contaminants mixed in with the steam. We just can’t see them as well.
That doesn’t win over anyone either. What will win them over is a picture of a asthma afflicted child.
“it gores hand in hand” – typo or Freudian slip? Appropriately said in either case.
Once again, these guys aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer regarding mad cyber skilz. Metadata can be removed. However, even if they did that, the “fingerprint” of photoshop remains in the image itself.
Or maybe they just don’t care.
I agree with Brad Tittle, with one additional caveat. Steam is invisible. Steam by definition has to be greater than 100C, so the white cloud coming out of the cooling tower is not even steam. its water vapor and condensed water droplets. But your point and the video’s points are well taken.
Visual propaganda is a common tactic used by media. Another one is to show nuclear reactor cooling tower clouds at night when the ground lighting appears to make the clouds glow. And if they want to get an unfavorable picture of someone they are criticizing, all they have to do is get any video of the person and freeze it occasionally until they get an unfavorable image of the person, for example a bad or ugly facial expression.
Brad Tittle says:
August 8, 2013 at 9:43 am
You hit the nail on the head there. I was spluttering myself over the comment that power plants were exhausting the steam. When debunking accuracy is needed.
“It gores hand in hand”, may be a Freudian slip but this is an example of how valuable new English Phrases are introduced to the language.
I’m sorry, but for some reason my comments are sometimes labeled John Phillips, which is what I want, but other times my comments are labeled gdpbullsht which I don’t want. That is a login name for a different website. I don’t get it. Sorry, I’m computer stupid.
I can dig up some nice looking photos I took of steam back in the early 80s when I visited a paper plant. They look nice and dark too but it is still steam.
gdpbullsht , you “other site” is likely also on wordpress. once logged in it uses that ID automatically unless you explicitly log out of WP , then it will ask you for name, email etc.
Please leave “… gores hand in hand … ” as it is. If that’s intentional, it’s brilliant. If not, lie and say you meant to do that.
The Beeb tends to exclusively illustrate Harrabin’s gloom-laden climate articles with otherwise-transparent back-lit flue/chimney emissions photos.
Just saw this: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/geekquinox/reports-reveal-dire-picture-humanity-painting-earth-climate-154742929.html
Seems like the AGW proponents are winning the fight since the media and the so called “mainstream scientific community” isn’t changing it’s narrative or backing off.
Just really don’t know what to think anymore, seems like a lost cause. I just get the feeling that 20 years from now when there STILL has been no significant warming that everything will be the same. That’s what I though 20 years ago too.
Brad Tittle says: @ur momisugly August 8, 2013 at 9:43 am
….As I have just demonstrated though, trying to explain this WILL NOT win you any friends or influence any people, it is boring. As soon as I said condenser, half the people left…..
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That is because you forgot to use a moonshine still as the illustration for a condenser. (This is the type of condenser I am more familiar with link )
“””””…….Brad Tittle says:
August 8, 2013 at 9:43 am
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The interesting part of the discussion is most of what we see coming out of the actual smoke stack on coal plants is steam. There are contaminants mixed in with the steam. We just can’t see them as well.
That doesn’t win over anyone either. What will win them over is a picture of a asthma afflicted child……..”””””””
Well I have very vivid pictures of an Asthma afflicted child; two of them actually.
Me and my younger sister, who had it worse than I did. I owe my whole career to being an Asthma inflicted child. Without it, I would be a very wealthy and retired former sheep rancher in New Zealand. Instead of playing rugby and cricket, or planting potatoes and maize, or mowing lawns, shucking hay etc, I was under my bed reading encyclopedias, and building crystal sets.
In all those years, of wheezing and gasping; neither my sister, nor me, ever had an asthma attack triggered by smoke, of any kind; or even by steam. At one time I actually used to stick my head, in the smoke coming off some sulphurous seeming powder, under a towel, to relieve my wheezing condition.
Asthma doesn’t have anything to do with the lungs as far as I know. It is a constriction of the passage leading into the lungs (whatever that is called.) It doesn’t affect the lungs at all.
Now I am sure that particulate matter in smoke, can get in your lungs and cause lung probems; but it that isn’t asthma.
Pollens and the like now give me hay fever, and sneezing fits, but I don’t get asthma any more.
Yes I’m against air pollution. I’m also against starvation, and all the other deprivations, that plague people in undeveloped or otherwise backward (by choice) lands.
Joe says:
August 8, 2013 at 10:24 am
….Seems like the AGW proponents are winning the fight since the media and the so called “mainstream scientific community” isn’t changing it’s narrative or backing off…..
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Joe, the media is pure propaganda. Period I figured that out when a major Vietnam protest right after Kent State was shown as happening on my Big Ten University campus. lots of film footage of this protest was shown on nation wide TV EXCEPT in the state where the University was located.
Just one problem, I was on Campus from 7:00 am to 5:00 pm and THERE WAS NO PROTEST…. THEY LIED. I have never believed the Media since and quit watching TV.
More on the bought and paid for media link (see my comment at bottom of article)
I applaud their efforts. Some years ago the government in the UK sponsored adverts on TV that showed a man walking through a house leaving black oily footprints, as if he had been treading through crude oil. It was to convince us to reduce our “carbon footprint”.
Thanks Greg Goodman. I think that’s the problem
Just enter “CO2 emissions” in Google Images for the full pandora’s box.
But all that water vapour will lead to positive feedback runaway catastrophe. We must act now, water vapour is a toxin. / sarc
I remember an over-the-top alarmist “news presentation” where they used an infrared camera to film car exhaust. The commentator goes on to breathlessly exclaim how we’re viewing CO2 spewing from the exhaust. My wife jumped up as I began screaming at the TV “Infrared cameras can’t see CO2, it’s HEAT we’re looking at!” Another dishonest alarmist propaganda ploy.
Nobody would deny that black carbon/soot and particulate matter from black smoke is pollution/harmful. Aggressive measures should be taken to treat and eradicate that kind of pollution. Millions of people each year have premature deaths(mostly in China and India) from this kind of real pollution.
However CO2, a beneficial gas is invisible and odorless. You can’t see it(coming out of a smoke stack) or smell it. When you see smoke, steam or anything coming out of a smokestack, regardless of the color(black or otherwise), texture or thickness, you are not seeing CO2.
Whenever somebody shows you a smokestack with anything coming out and suggests you are looking at CO2, it’s a lie 100% of the time.
Ha ha! “Lie. Deceive. Be Dishonest”…having been deceitful and dishonest by carefully constructing the video to suggest that power generation ONLY emits steam [“it is steam you see from these towers” or somesuch], when of course it also emits CO2, N2, H2O, SOx, NOx and particulates (depending on country and clean air regs) from the flue chimney. So propaganda, but from the deniers/skeptics this time.