I’m sure Phil Jones will need to be notified right away that this paper on HadCRUT4 was never actually published.
Justin Templer writes on Twitter and provides screencaps:
Meet @ForecastFacts campaign manager and degreed environmentalist @emilyrsouthard clueless about HadCRUT
From her Twitter feed
and then later, there was this gem:
While some people might agree, I don’t think it means what she thinks it means. How embarrassing.
Who is Emily Southard? Her Linked in profile says:
These are the sorts of low information activists that are bullying weathercasters and TV meteorologists into saying what the activists want them to say about climate.
Be sure to tell you own local TV weathercaster or meteorologist to watch out for these folks, since they are obviously clueless.
I encountered a UK version of this the other day on FB – I replied to a FB friend’s image of the flowers in her garden with a reamark about how backward everything is this year where i live. This total imbecile claiming to be a full time climate activist chimed in with a post about AGW and how he is saving the world. A few exhanges later, he was ranting at me about Holocaust Deniers, how ashamed I should be not be helping save the planet by destroying carbon, and parroting a load of ReaClimate rubbish about my conformation bias, in response to my measured remarks about flatlining temps and advice to study the work of Bob Tisdale, Lief Svalgaard, Piers Corbyn, Steve McIntyre, Jo Nova etc etc.
He clearly had no comprehension of scientific method, maths, statistics etc etc – and no wish to learn any. This is sadly the kind of person being churned out by our educations systems: full of prosletiszing zeal and bereft of basic knowledge or ability to reason from eveidence.. The fact I spent my life as a professional researcher who would have been out of business without the ability to find and evaluate accurate material, and that I’d been studying the climate / Agw dispute in depth for at least 12 years, meant nothing to him.
It was profoundly depressing, since there are so many of these people and they ARE listened to, in some quarters. They give talks in schools, for example. I blocked him on FB for the sake of my blood pressure
Eric Worrall says:
July 11, 2013 at 8:02 pm
The thing people forget when considering IQ scores is that IQ 100 is the population average – there are many, many people below IQ 100… 🙂
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And that is enough to really frighten you when you consider they all vote as adults when organized, shepherded and paid by Community Organizers that is.
What? You didn’t realize the whole goal for Community Organizers is to use those people as political weapons?
Just look at what is happening in Florida RIGHT NOW. The Organizer and Chief has sent the US Justice Department off to ORGANIZE PROTESTS concerning the ongoing Zimmerman trial. I kid you not.
Chad Wozniak says:
July 11, 2013 at 10:27 pm
@Bill_W -\
As the holder of an MBA along with a PhD in another field, I must differ with the thought that business is a worthless subject. Because business fails quickly if it falls for the sort of irrationality that is killing science and the humanities, theories analogous to CAGW….
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My husband and I use ‘Harvard Business School’ as a swear word. Living in Boston we have just seen too many HBS grads alight for a couple of years really mess up a business and flit on to the next. They usually show a great short term ROI by cutting things like maintenance that comes back to bite the company HARD. In one company the back-up extruder screws were not replaced as used. The lead time for getting a new one was between one and two years. After the first extruder failed and had to be shut down the company lost 6 months production and paid a heavy premium to have the new extruder screw expedited. The second company was not so lucky. Because of deferred maintenance the extruder exploded killing and injuring people. (I and the maintenance guy had quit over the issue just a week before.)
Engineers and others that have had to argue with the business and accounting types often hold them in contempt for reasons like the above although much of it is a lack of a common language and understanding. I ran labs for years and took business and accounting courses so I could more easily defend my budgets. I always got what I wanted because I could ‘speak the language’
This may be rather childish, but I can never read HadCrut without thinking it would be better named HatCrud, thus indicating in one fell swoop the place from which they are speaking and the quality of the data.
As a product of Connecticut College, Emily is also an advertisement for this institution of lowest learning. How many parents will NOT to send their children to Connecticut College?
Go Camels!
I blame Mountaineer Montessori, screw ’em up early and get their cash.
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tgorn says:
July 11, 2013 at 9:17 pm
> Sorry. First thing that comes to mind to me is: Computer Science
> Definitely a science.
There are days I could argue it’s a Black Art. And that my computer is out to get me.
TerryS says:
July 12, 2013 at 12:08 am
> As somebody who has a Computer Science degree I would have to disagree [that it is a science]. There was a maths requirement but not a statistics one. Laboratory and experimental work didn’t exist – it was writing code. There is no form of observational measurement, analysis and conclusions to be drawn.
One reason I’m a software engineer instead of a computer scientist is that I preferred creating systems to the heavy theoretical slant of the computer science dept. (This was back when CMU had only a graduate CS degree.) Perhaps undergraduate programs spend more time writing code, but a lot of the graduate programs dealt with recursive function theory, optimizing compilers, and in general inventing the tools that engineers used to build things like the ARPAnet.
John Blake says:
July 11, 2013 at 8:56 pm
“Against stupidity, the gods themselves are helpless.”
But Darwin isn’t (helpless). It’s just evolution in action (Larry Niven in Oath of Fealty). And perhaps that is exactly what the gods had in mind.
On another note, how about MoveOver.org?
Besides demonstrating her complete incompetence, she does raise an interesting dilemma. hadCrut is SUPPOSED to be raw data. Since when does RAW data need peer review? And who is the peer that reviews it? God? Gaia? Mother Nature?
The more people I meet with a BA, the more I’m sure that a BA these days equals a 12th Grade diploma from 1945…
@CaligulaJones
I think you are over estimating it. I am not sure they are up to 12th grade 1945.
Even more stunning is Emily’s Connecticut College environmental science degree contrasted with Kernen’s University of Colorado molecular biology degree + masters from MIT + cancer research papers published in Cell, Developmental Biology and the renowned Cold Spring Harbor Symposia.
Just who is the informed person here?
Again, I am reminded of a broken clock being right twice a day…
Awww Janice, you made me backtrack to check her out; her beauty is completely un-redeeming for her words. Now if she was Helen of Troy or a young Elizabeth Taylor…
Gail:
I do agree with Chad and I mostly agree with you about the Harvard Business grads. Frankly, anyone who brings in an inexperienced business grad and lets them make unchecked un-validated decisions that damage the business deserves their end. Just the back slope of the business paradigm in action and everyone involved should make sure the blame follows the decision makers.
On the other hand, I have worked with a couple of Harvard Business degreed graduates who were worth every penny we paid them. The savings we achieved were from improved processes and technology, not stupid budget cuts or misused employees (“let’s double, triple the marketing budget and use advertising to get us out of this mess…” Oh yeah, those following years were banner years, for the competition.)
I will confess, for several years I was pursuing a business finance degree at Wharton. That is before my company’s finance department brought me in to work on their spanking new PCs; like the original IBM with attached 10mb hard drive cabinet. Back in those days, computers were under the finance department in many businesses. A ‘computer science’ degree didn’t exist then in my local colleges; one majored in an accepted degree and built up a portfolio of additional ‘computer’ credits, usually in languages and ‘system’ or ‘program’ development. My first run in with a ‘computer science’ degreed employee was a lark and I had great fun.
{ Gail Combs says:
July 12, 2013 at 3:56 am
Chad Wozniak says:
July 11, 2013 at 10:27
My husband and I use ‘Harvard Business School’ }
First off, when it’s spelled as pronounced: Hauwvud.
Second, please don’t swear on WUWT.
>TerryS says:
>July 12, 2013 at 12:08 am
> As somebody who has a Computer Science degree I would have to disagree [that it is a science]. There was a maths requirement but not a statistics one. Laboratory and experimental work didn’t exist – it was writing code. There is no form of observational measurement, analysis and conclusions to be drawn.
Hmm. I think it depends on the university. There are university that offer Computer Science, and Computer Engineering and Software Engineering as separate degree tracks. The first is heavy heavy theoretical work. The second is practical application of theory (what goes into building efficient systems) and the third is coding. I’ve known CS grads who have only taken a few programming courses, because they are not studying to be coders.
Reasonable definitions –
Computer Science – ” systematic study of algorithmic methods for representing and transforming information, including their theory, design, implementation, application, and efficiency.”
Computer Engineering – “the design and prototyping of computing devices and systems. ”
Software Engineering – “the application of a systematic, disciplined, quantifiable approach to the design, development, operation, and maintenance of software, and the study of these approaches; that is, the application of engineering to software.”
Who cares? Miss Emily is a low drone, a square. “Temperature” is old hat, the corporatists are moving their pliant minions into “climate change” irrespective of temperature. And her comments specifying HadCrut are a huge faux pas, which undermine the idea of “consensus.”
Sad to think how many students hitched their “major” unto a business bubble using government and science to create and increase profits.
I don’t get it – usually Montessori schools are pretty good.
To summarise & encapsulate what the UnfrozenCavemanMD said…
Non-Science Nonsense.
All non-sciences have the word ‘science’ in their title.
No true sciences have the word ‘science’ in their title.
Some non-sciences do not have ‘science’ in their title
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Great line but I’m afraid the crackedpots came after The Fall.
(Jeremiah 2:13)
(now where’d I put my glue …. )
“Forecast the Facts”
Shouldn’t that be “Forget the Facts”?
No, “Fake the Facts”. Or “Forecasts instead of Facts”. Or “Forecasts Fudging Facts”. Phantasy-land.
One can forecast with a negative skill value. We’ve seen it in climate science.
Smirk! LOL…
Good one Tim, well both of them; though the first one had me flashing back to Cliff Robertson in PT 109 not President Kennedy in one of his speeches.
HadCRUt is bunk science. But not the way she means . . .
Ken says:
July 11, 2013 at 6:47 pm
“And earlier today, David Suzuki declared himself to be anti-immigration. Did something cosmic happen today that I missed?”
I’m ROFL.
His grandparents were immigrants from Japan as many were in SW BC going on a century ago. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Suzuki)
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/07/11/jason-kenney-slams-xenophobic-david-suzuki-after-environmentalist-claims-canada-is-full/ REF
http://o.canada.com/2013/07/11/david-suzuki-immigration-french-newspaper-interview/ (journalist says translation is correct)
Suzuki’s anti-immigration rant is consistent with his underlying ideology, which preaches fixed-pie economis and drive-to-the-bottom ethics, but is another example of his increasing desperation as people are not responding enough to suit him. Suzuki and spouse sit on their large Gulf Islands property despairing that, with forays to their expensive real estate in the Kitsilano area of Vancouver BC.
The reason people from poor countries emigrate is lack of freedom. Fix the political systems and those areas would not be poor anymore. But Suzuki does not actually want freedom, as he is effectively a Marxist (read his articles and speeches, including to the one-percent mob in Vancouver BC). His rants remind me of what civil rights activist Bob Friedland said about leftist political activists (see http://www.keithsketchley.com/newleft.htm, top of page).